Gen V's Hell Week: The Price of Power and Manipulation | Back to Work: Severance Season 2 Kicks Off with Intrigue

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>> Will: Foreign.

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>> Sarah : Greetings Nerds. This is Scene N Nerd. I'm your

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host, Sarah Belmont, and with me, as always, is

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our Mr. Producer, Will Polk How are you doing

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tonight. Will.

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>> Will: Doing very well, Sarah. Glad to be back on our

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Monday night.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah, we were. We are back here and we have

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two shows to talk about.

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>> Will: Yes, we do. Yes, we do. We are wrapping up Gen V.

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I mean, I know it's the penultimate episode this

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week, and, I know we're finally, finally going to

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get around to starting Severance season two.

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>> Sarah : So, yeah, we had to go back and renew our, Apple

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plus subscriptions to watch Severance. So, yeah,

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so I, I did that and then I. And I watched the

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shows, of course.

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>> Will: Y.

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>> Sarah : And yesterday, I. I know, the morning show is

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already like five episodes in, so I contemplated.

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And I was like, I'll just throw one on. It'll be

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fine. I'm caught up. And he. So here's my thing

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about the morning show. It's not my favorite. It's

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also. It's not. It's easy for me to watch it. And

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there are story lines that I like to follow and

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there's storylines I could care less about. mainly

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a lot of times, Bradley Reese Witherspoon

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character. I. I don't care about her storylines

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for. For some reason her character just annoys me.

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So, so I. But I realized over the course of the

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five episodes why, despite me not really liking a

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lot of the characters.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : but. But granted, sometimes not liking a character

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makes them all the more entertaining.

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>> Will: Oh, yeah.

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>> Sarah : I think. I think what I enjoy about it the most is

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the writer's abilities to bring. To have real

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events that occurred while they were writing the

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show occur, on the show and for the news room A

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and B to react to the breaking news. And so it's.

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That it's. It's similar to, my feelings about the

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Pit from earlier this year.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Like, yes, okay. The Pit is a lot less soap draw

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me than. Than the morning show. But what I like

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about the morning show is also what I. What I

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believe is the greatest strength of the Pit. It's

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a real workplace, environment, and it's a real

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study on journalism and the ethics of journalism.

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And I don't know if I've ever mentioned this on

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the show over the last almost ten years, but, I

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have my degree in broadcast journalism.

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>> Will: I know.

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>> Sarah : So I. So watching it, I kind of get envious. I'm

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just like. Seems like so much fun. specifically in

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the Control. The. The Control center, behind the

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scenes. And it, and now that I think about it,

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it's why I also liked or loved the show, the

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Newsroom from back in the day, Aaron Sorkin's

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show. So I, I mean, it's, it's funny. I, I, I will

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end up watching the final five episodes. I don't

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know if I'm just gonna wait and then binge them

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like I did the first five, or I'll just pick up

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week to week, who knows? There's a lot of stuff

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Netflix is, is gonna kill me for the next few

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weeks because it's dropping a lot of new things,

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or second seasons of things like, like nobody

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wants this. Season two is coming out this weekend,

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so.

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>> Will: Okay.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, I can't have that spoiled.

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>> Will: Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. Yeah, I know there's

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like a few, there's a few, like, documentaries and

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a couple other things on Netflix that I want to

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check out and, but yeah.

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>> Sarah : That is, will documentaries, like real serious

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stuff. I'm talking about nobody wants it and a few

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reality TV shows.

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>> Will: Or, you know. Yeah. Or, you know, if, if you, if

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you missed, K Pop Demon Hunters, the, the first,

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like, you know, time around, you can either catch

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it on Netflix or it's going to be, I think it's

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going to be in the theaters again Halloween

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weekend, so.

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>> Sarah : Well, well, even if it wasn't going back in

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theaters, you could have caught it on Netflix

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still.

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>> Will: Yeah, but if you want to see it on the big screen.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

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>> Will: I say for, for folks who, you know, who missed out

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the last time, you could do it if you missed the

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last time. It's happening again.

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>> Sarah : I tracked, I tracked. I just didn't follow, like,

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or you could watch it on Netflix. I'm like, no, I

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don't think that's your point. But yeah, all

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right, well, enough about that. We'll get to Apple

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plus in a little bit. but first we have to talk.

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Gen V season 2, episode 7 Hell Week. The Office of

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Student Conduct Remain reminds all students that

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hazing is strictly forbidden. At God. You. This

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includes using degrading names, forcing

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embarrassing attire, or animal like treatment. I

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get the synopsis, but what bothers me about this

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week's synopsis is also why I'm like, I don't

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think this, this episode should have been called

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Hell Week because that was such a small point.

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Like, it, it was just this little note. It was

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probably the least entertaining part of this

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entire EP episode. M. but I was, I was thinking

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about this leading up to getting on the mics with

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you, Will.

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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : I have very similar feelings about this episode

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that I did last week. And, and it's, and it's so,

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so I'm a bit negative about it and just Because

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overall, and we talked about this a little bit

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last week. I, I appreciate when characters make

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choices that are not predictable. So there was a

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lot of predictableness.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : But I want to start by talking about something

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that I did not predict and I did see the Gen V

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writing that I love.

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>> Will: Okay.

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>> Sarah : And that has to do with the d. The whole

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conversation that was ongoing through most of the

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episode between Kate and Marie.

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>> Sarah : And it's not that I expected Marie to heal Kate.

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That's not, that's not. Or, or like her reasons

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for not wanting to. It was more about Kate's.

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Kate's whole. Every now and then she would mention

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something like, this is what, this is what they

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do. This is how they control you. They boost you

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up, they make. They say things. And what I found

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so clever in the writing is we would have that

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conversation between Kate and Marie where Kate is

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really trying to say I was. I understand why

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you're upset. I understand why you don't trust me,

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but you don't get it. You don't get what the, how

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the manipulation that occurred to get me to that

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point. And the irony is that is what we're seeing

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occur with Marie because in the very next scene,

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then you have Marie on the phone with Cypher and

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Cypher starts saying exactly the things that Kate

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was brainwashed with. And what. And, and it goes

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back into last week about how we're saying

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Godolkin and the top 1% and this hierarchy system

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that occurs. And so I just, I thought that was

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really. That's, that's what I thought was the most

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unexpected thing that occurred in this episode for

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me and where I, I really, I really like that

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because we even got a little bit of that from

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Polarity as well because it was really the three

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of them through most of the episode. But I don't

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know what your thoughts are on that.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, the whole

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manipulation thing really, that, that really did

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resonate, with me as well as far as the real

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standout points in, in the episode because it, it

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truly. All throughout the season we have, you

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know, we have seen Cipher and of course, you know,

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we, of course we did get the big reveal and all

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that. And we'll. I know, we'll get into that some.

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It went a little. We were on point, but, you know,

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this is a little off, but not, not way off. But

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the, the bigger point for me was that, in bringing

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that up is just, you know, we saw the manipulation

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as far as just, you know, for, you know, for the

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ends of basically building Marie up and, and, you

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know, maybe, you know, to, to get her to do what,

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you know, basically do what she did. And we talked

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about this last week. It's like, you know, where's

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the adult in the room? And I think polarity was

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trying to be that adult in the room and just

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trying to like, steer them to, to, you know, steer

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the kids and in the right direction. but Marie was

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just, you know, I think you. To your point, that's

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what's so insidious about this school and, and,

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And Vault and, And Godolk and, and, and how they

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can. How, you know, how powerful it is. And, and

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it was. I really appreciated how Kate was. Was

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really, you know, you know, she's like, look, I'm

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exhibit A for how this, how all this works. You

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know, how like, Shetty used me last time to get

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back at Homelander and, and the supes, you know,

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for, you know, killing my family on the plane, you

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know, by not rescuing them. And, and, and, you

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know, this time around it's, you know, clearly

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getting Maurice built up so strong so that. Such

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that she could heal. He'll cipher Godolkin. So it

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was. Yeah, you know, I thought that was a very,

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very important point, in, in the episode. And also

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too, it just sort of like, you know, really

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teeters on not only the manipulation, but also,

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how these characters all have been dealing with

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their own battles throughout the season, and, and

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learning how to forgive themselves, for, you know,

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any failings that they may have had. You know,

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like, I look at Kate, she's like, yeah, I was

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wrong. But, you know, I, you know, but, you know.

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>> Sarah : I have a question because. Well, I have two things

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because I want to talk more about polarity

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because. And I know. So I'll start there and then

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we'll circle back to Kate. Yeah, Polarity. I don't

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think. I don't. Because you brought up. He was

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the. Trying to be the adult in the room. I don't

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think he was trying to be the adult in the room. I

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think that he was blinded by rage and revenge

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because of Andre, and rightfully so. I mean, that

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will all always overpower any desire to, albeit

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kind of shield these other, kids, for lack of a

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better terms, because I know they're young adults

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technically. But so, so I think that he was he

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also because even when he witnesses Marie turn on

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her friends and use her powers on them, the very

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thing she is vindicating Kate of, he, he does

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look, look at her and says, you can't do this. You

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can't do this. But then the moment she releases

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them, it's like, all right, let's go back to what

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we were doing. And it's just like, yeah. Well, do

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you, do you not think that maybe this person.

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Person is not in the best head space? Like maybe

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she's being a bit too stubborn. But I think both

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of them are kind of exhibit. Which is ironic

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because Polarity. Another thing that happens to

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him in this episode is he now has been healed by

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Marie. And, and I love that line that he says,

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like, I've been sick for so long, I forgot what it

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feels like to be healthy. I'm pretty sure that he,

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he says that.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : In the episode he does. Because I wonder if that

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had not happened, if he would have then more, more

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likely been like, no, we can't. But it was because

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he was healed and he was put back together and he

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realized he could actually be a match for Cipher's

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connection, that then he pushed his trips all in,

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albeit like, come on, dummy, you can only do it

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for yourself. Why? You kind of allowed multiple

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brains to enter the room. And I'm just like, okay,

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that was a mistake. But yeah, yeah, yeah. So I am,

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Yeah, I, I, I think he, he, he definitely started

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the season as the adult. But between Andre's death

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and his own comp. Not his own issues with his

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powers, it's kind of like that has been allowing

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like. I don't know where I'm going with that, but.

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>> Will: Yeah. Well, I think one place where you can go

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with that is, you know, like to your point, you're

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bringing up the. What he felt like. I forgot what

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it feels like to be healthy. I mean, that, that

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hits on so many levels.

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>> Will: Because you know, one. Yeah. The physical aspect

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of it, but also emotionally, I mean, he, he was,

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you know, we've seen. When we first saw polarity

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this season, he was a broken man. You know, he's

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lost his son, he's lost all the notoriety. I mean,

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he's, you know, you know, well, who, you know, who

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gives a about all the other stuff? But I mean, he

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lost his son and, and he was a broken man. And

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then by Marie not only healing him, you know, but,

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you know, of course she heals him. Physically. But

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I think throughout, you know, as he, as he goes

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back to the school and as he's trying to get to

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the bottom of, you know, get to the answers as far

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as what happened to Andrew.

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>> Will: I think he's also, he's also been healing as well.

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And so now, I think now he. Both the emotional

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scars and the physical scars are healed. You know,

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you know healed at that moment. And now he's like,

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okay then like to your point. Yeah. You know,

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we'll distract Cypher while you go do, you know,

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you go do your thing. And yeah, and so. Yeah, so I

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think there, you know, so I think that that was

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sort of the why that storyline in particular was

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as far as the. A plot really did stand out.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, he, he definitely. It'll be interesting in

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the finale with polarity because I feel as though

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for his character, I wonder if the events in that

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final sequence, makes him suddenly realize, yeah,

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I'm, I'm healed and I'm healthy and I'm stronger

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than ever. So does that mean that I just let

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history repeat itself? Because no, these aren't

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his kids but these were friends of his, Andres,

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and there is some protection. So is he going to

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allow what happened to Andre to like these kids to

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do the same? especially with the influence. So,

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so, so we shall see. to go back to Kate.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

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>> Sarah : how much do you believe her? Throughout the

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episode? She makes a lot of different offers or

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she, she presents her arguments like I swear I'm

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never going to use my powers on any of you again.

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And, and, and this is my thing. And we all know I

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love Kate. I don't 100 trust her.

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>> Will: I still don't either.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, it's. And, and Marie even says it. It's just

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like by healing you I will give you that power

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back. And to allow. Which is ironic because of

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what happens with Gul Dalkin. I get it. It's

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complete foreshadowing, granted. This whole like

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what episode? Around six episodes of foreshadowing

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of that. but, but we know how powerful Kate was.

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So as much as I, I know she needs to be fixed by

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the end of the season, I kind of also don't know

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what that does because we just got. Saw polarity

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get fixed.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : But power corrupts, so.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, it does. Yeah. I think that, and

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that's where they were kind of, I think they were

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kind of leaning into that.

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>> Sarah : Right.

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>> Will: Yeah, I mean that was, you know, the, the

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increasingly behavior that we saw Marie have more

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Ruthless more. You know, just, refusing to help

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Kate. I mean, it's. You know, because m. Marie's

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always been. We've seen her as an empathetic

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figure in this show. I mean, she does, you know,

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and that's. Especially when you can. You know, the

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way they basically juxtapose her versus

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Homelander.

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>> Sarah : Right.

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>> Will: so, you know, we know they're the only two stable

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ones that came out of Odessa, so they really are,

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like, making, you know, drop, you know, Whereas,

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you know, to your point, yeah, we know Kate was a

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villain last season. We saw what she did in the

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Boys season four, you know, teaming up. Teaming up

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with Homelander. So you're right. I mean, I. I can

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understand where Marie is coming from as far as,

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like. No, I, I, Just. Even words. Words are

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worthless.

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>> Sarah : Yeah.

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>> Will: I need action.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. And it's really hard for action when you

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don't have that power, you know, because it's kind

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of like, well, this is a catch 22, because. To

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show you, like, through action, you need to give

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me the very thing that you don't want me to have

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because you're afraid of what I'll do with it, you

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know, so. So, yeah, it's. It's like with Marie,

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she. She definitely. The thing about Marie is

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she's had a lot of guilt with her parents. Right.

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>> Will: And.

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>> Sarah : And Annabeth. And we find out in this episode that

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Annabeth had a premonition about what happened.

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And so all these years, she's been dealing with

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guilt as well, especially with her powers. And,

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And Marie having gone through that situation,

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she's been forced to be so independent that I

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think that's her biggest flaw, because she. She's

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the one at the beginning who breaks herself out

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of, What is that place called?

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>> Will: Elmira.

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>> Sarah : Elmyra. And then everyone is looking at her, like,

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as being, oh, you're different because you're the

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only one who could have done it. Andre died trying

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to do it. And. And then. And then we start to see

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this interest from Cypher, and it just gets like,

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you're able to then suddenly bring back your own

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sister to life. A part of me is also just like,

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hey, guys, could you. Could you have, Could you

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remember that one time when she kind of did that

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in season one as well? I mean, it was not as

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intense, but.

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>> Will: No, it wasn't. But she did. Yeah. But we did see

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the healing. We saw the healing. Yeah. I mean,

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that's what. That's what got Newman to, like. Oh,

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okay. Yeah. And others to be like, oh, yeah, yeah,

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right, yeah.

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>> Sarah : So. But it's also the, the, to see her so frail

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after she heals people.

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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : So. So then that starts to wonder because annabeth

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also has this other premonition. Premonition in

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this episode, that will foreshadow something to

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happen in the finale. Because it did not occur in

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this episode.

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>> Will: No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I mean, it was just

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like. Was it. Yeah. Blood on her, you know, truly

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blood on her hands and, you know, and, Because I

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was wondering, especially when she was, going to

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say, you know, going to heal, Golkin, if that. You

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know, I was like, okay, now when's it coming in?

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When's it coming? You know, who's gonna, who's

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gonna, who's gonna explode? I was like, okay. I

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was just like, I thought especially given to your.

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How they were, how they set up the fact that

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Annabeth saw Marie, accidentally killing her

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parents, prior to her getting her period. So, so,

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yeah. So I have to give it to him. I know Kripke

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was, like, frustrated by, like, everybody figuring

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out what, you know, what. The true story, what

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the. About the reveal. But I, I did think that

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someone was going to get, especially given this

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show, someone was going to get killed in that

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room.

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>> Sarah : Oh, see, I did not.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, well. Yeah, yeah.

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>> Sarah : I, I don't know. for some reason, her premonition,

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it's not as though a. I had it in my mind somebody

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was gonna die first. For some reason, I did not

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jump to that conclusion. I thought that, okay,

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we're gonna see something and then realize that it

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was completely taken out of context and blah,

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blah. I don't know why. I, I, at no point, I had,

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I had, I had no, There were no stakes for me in

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this episode. The biggest stake was, are you gonna

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heal Kate?

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>> Will: Well, sometimes, you know, and sometimes, you

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know, that's not necessarily a bad thing. I mean,

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we, we've gotten to this place. Yeah. We've gotten

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to this place where we, you know, the, the Game of

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Thrones and, you know, whatever of it all, where

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the, the penultimate is like the big thing. And

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then, you know, we just saw it last week with

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Peacemaker. It was just like, the big thing was

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episode seven and episode eight or whatever. It

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was kind of like, yeah, well.

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>> Sarah : See, and, and it, I will say, watching this

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episode, it's also not in my mind, like, this is

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penultimate. Something big is gonna happen. I

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don't know why I, I just was taking the story for

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what it is and just being annoyed that. Yeah.

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Something you said at the beginning, we kind of

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called, it. Yeah, we called it. Well, I, I'm not

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even gonna say we kind of called it. Yeah. Okay.

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There was a line where Cypher said, that's my

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father. So we took that verbatim. It's not his

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father. Do I think it should have been the father?

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Yes. That would have made that so much more

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interesting for all the points that I explained

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three or four episodes ago. But yeah, we, we

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still, it was pretty obvious what was going on.

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And, and then the whole thing about the other

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thing that I wish that they would have done is

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have it been like, to fully take over that guy's

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body as opposed to. No, I just need you to heal

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my, my old body. It just, it just screams missed

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opportunities.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : And, and, and it also, also the actor who played

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our original Cipher, for all puns and like, our

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actual Cipher was doing such a good job that to

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watch the final scene with Godolkin, I was like,

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can we, we can't have another season with this

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guy.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, we did get the, you

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know, we did get him like, you know, killing the,

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killing the pledge and stuff. So, you know, we did

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see step one of the, of the calling of, of the

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school. but I agree, I, I would have, I, I, I

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would have preferred the, the full transference

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over to, to the, actor who played, who played,

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Cipher. You know, I guess we learned his name is

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Doug. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Doug from Blockbuster. So

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I mean, he's been controlling for at least 20

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years or so.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, it, for, for a long time. And it's

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quite sad. I was also thinking they, they didn't

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explain it. I don't know if they will explain, but

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Doug, like, when he stabbed his hand, but he also

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claimed, like, it's been bandaged for three

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episodes or something like that, and he claims

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like, it doesn't heal. And then when he was like,

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when polarity was attacking him, like, I can heal.

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Okay. Does that mean that Doug was at one point

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injected with Gen V? Like, does he have a, like

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some kind of no healing power? No, no, no.

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>> Will: Doug was just Doug, Doug was just a dude. He

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basically, he was the unfortunate.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, but then why was he allowed. Explain the

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stab to me.

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>> Will: That was. Oh, as far as, like, when, when.

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>> Sarah : When, when he stabbed himself to prove a point to

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polarity.

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>> Will: Yeah.

479
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>> Sarah : Like, like, it's gonna take, like. And he didn't

480
00:28:25,211 --> 00:28:29,411
even wince. And he, and it still. And then when

481
00:28:29,651 --> 00:28:33,331
polarity pushes him out of a two story window.

482
00:28:33,971 --> 00:28:38,411
>> Will: Right, okay. Yeah. Like, you know, it's like

483
00:28:38,411 --> 00:28:40,131
basically like what George just said. I mean,

484
00:28:40,531 --> 00:28:43,371
when, when Cipher's in your head, the actual

485
00:28:43,371 --> 00:28:48,021
person is, is pushed to the background. So Doug,

486
00:28:48,021 --> 00:28:50,181
all these years, Doug was just pushed in the back.

487
00:28:50,181 --> 00:28:52,461
So whenever Cipher just, you know, stabbed him,

488
00:28:52,781 --> 00:28:56,301
you know, stabbed himself. Stabbed, you know,

489
00:28:57,261 --> 00:28:59,221
himself in the hand, Doug didn't feel it because

490
00:28:59,221 --> 00:29:01,141
Doug wasn't there. I mean, just, you know, as far

491
00:29:01,141 --> 00:29:02,700
as just being a conscious entity.

492
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:05,741
>> Sarah : And, and well, Doug did feel it. It's just that

493
00:29:06,301 --> 00:29:09,701
Cipher Godolkin didn't because Godal hands in the

494
00:29:09,701 --> 00:29:12,061
driver's seat. Okay, that makes sense.

495
00:29:12,791 --> 00:29:13,031
>> Will: So.

496
00:29:13,271 --> 00:29:17,631
>> Sarah : So, so. And that's why it was bandaged that entire

497
00:29:17,631 --> 00:29:17,951
time.

498
00:29:18,671 --> 00:29:19,071
>> Will: Right?

499
00:29:19,151 --> 00:29:26,031
>> Sarah : I'm, I'm, I'm not gonna belabor this because I'm

500
00:29:26,031 --> 00:29:27,551
not accepting anything.

501
00:29:27,711 --> 00:29:30,071
>> Will: Doug's just, Doug's just basically just. Look,

502
00:29:30,071 --> 00:29:31,711
Doug is just a vessel and.

503
00:29:31,791 --> 00:29:35,351
>> Sarah : And I understand that. I understand that he's a

504
00:29:35,351 --> 00:29:35,871
vessel.

505
00:29:36,591 --> 00:29:37,071
>> Will: Yeah.

506
00:29:37,071 --> 00:29:42,011
>> Sarah : Some of the cool things that occurred to Doug as a

507
00:29:42,011 --> 00:29:45,091
vessel doesn't add up to me. And I'm gonna just

508
00:29:45,091 --> 00:29:48,051
leave it at that. It's not gonna make sense to me.

509
00:29:48,931 --> 00:29:51,891
>> Will: That was why. Well, the last thing I'll say with

510
00:29:51,891 --> 00:29:53,931
on that point is whenever he, you know, they, they

511
00:29:53,931 --> 00:29:56,091
said whenever they were like, take cut off his

512
00:29:56,091 --> 00:29:58,611
head or whatever, you know, that's why Cipher was

513
00:29:58,611 --> 00:30:00,051
like, oh, yeah, you can do that, but I'll continue

514
00:30:00,051 --> 00:30:02,611
to live on because, you know, yeah, Doug will be

515
00:30:02,611 --> 00:30:03,971
dead, but I'll just find another host.

516
00:30:05,501 --> 00:30:08,541
>> Sarah : Yeah, like, like that makes sense. But some of the

517
00:30:08,541 --> 00:30:13,061
actual physical stuff. Yeah, yeah, a little Lucy

518
00:30:13,061 --> 00:30:16,861
Goosey Goosey.

519
00:30:18,471 --> 00:30:20,391
>> Will: it doesn't fit to our earlier theory.

520
00:30:22,151 --> 00:30:26,911
>> Sarah : Well, it's, it's not that it's, it doesn't need it

521
00:30:26,911 --> 00:30:30,511
to make sense. I just needed to make sense to me.

522
00:30:33,771 --> 00:30:37,211
I'm not, I'm not about cutting corners, guys.

523
00:30:38,731 --> 00:30:39,451
>> Will: Moving on.

524
00:30:41,131 --> 00:30:45,011
>> Sarah : Yeah, we're. Do you wanna. Because honestly I, I

525
00:30:45,011 --> 00:30:47,131
said what I wanted to say about this episode.

526
00:30:50,731 --> 00:30:52,691
>> Will: Well, no, I think we hit the major points. I mean,

527
00:30:52,691 --> 00:30:54,411
you know, one of the things I did talk about

528
00:30:54,411 --> 00:30:59,231
forgiveness earlier, was. We did see, I think Sam

529
00:30:59,231 --> 00:31:03,991
is, you know, getting back to his. I think he's

530
00:31:03,991 --> 00:31:06,671
trying to make amends with, with everyone as well.

531
00:31:07,241 --> 00:31:09,481
and I guess, you know, we do see, you know, we do.

532
00:31:09,481 --> 00:31:12,121
We learn a little bit more about Sam's powers and

533
00:31:12,121 --> 00:31:15,121
the whole. I did, I, I, I did like the sort of the

534
00:31:15,121 --> 00:31:18,011
whole, you know, dick measuring contest between

535
00:31:18,891 --> 00:31:22,371
Sam, and Jeff. It was this pretty bro. Greg.

536
00:31:22,371 --> 00:31:24,731
Excuse me, Greg. Yeah, it was pretty funny. I

537
00:31:24,731 --> 00:31:26,851
mean, as far as, you know, we always could depend

538
00:31:26,851 --> 00:31:30,281
on, like, Emma's storyline to always have, have

539
00:31:30,281 --> 00:31:32,861
the, you know, the lighter moments, in the

540
00:31:32,861 --> 00:31:35,231
episode. But, But yeah, I mean, it was. It was,

541
00:31:35,231 --> 00:31:38,430
you know, it was. It was different. Penultimate.

542
00:31:38,430 --> 00:31:41,551
And, you know, we got set a lot of things up for

543
00:31:41,551 --> 00:31:45,121
the table and definitely, like, leaned into, you

544
00:31:45,121 --> 00:31:49,411
know, the question of whether or not Marie will

545
00:31:49,411 --> 00:31:53,451
go, go Vic, go. Go villain or not. Or to our

546
00:31:53,451 --> 00:31:55,571
earlier point, you know, really gets, you know, or

547
00:31:55,571 --> 00:31:59,051
was she manipulated to, you know, to do all these

548
00:31:59,051 --> 00:32:01,291
things and, you know, at the end of the day, she

549
00:32:01,291 --> 00:32:05,521
will, you know, not. Not go. Go. Go down the dark

550
00:32:05,521 --> 00:32:07,841
side, go down the dark path because they're

551
00:32:07,841 --> 00:32:10,801
setting her up to be the foil for. For Homelander.

552
00:32:10,801 --> 00:32:12,281
And of course, you know, Stan also was

553
00:32:12,281 --> 00:32:15,331
manipulating her as well, so, you know, for his

554
00:32:15,331 --> 00:32:15,611
own.

555
00:32:15,611 --> 00:32:19,331
>> Sarah : This can't be all about Homelander. Yeah, I'm just

556
00:32:19,331 --> 00:32:22,771
gonna. I'm just gonna say it. Like, Homelander is

557
00:32:22,771 --> 00:32:27,291
going to die in season five of the Boys. So if we

558
00:32:27,291 --> 00:32:31,011
want Gen V to continue beyond, like, this. This

559
00:32:31,011 --> 00:32:34,331
can't be. Let's set up Marie to do this thing

560
00:32:34,411 --> 00:32:35,691
with, like,

561
00:32:35,861 --> 00:32:38,181
>> Will: So do you think. Do you think they're centered up

562
00:32:38,181 --> 00:32:39,061
to be the replacement?

563
00:32:39,961 --> 00:32:40,201
>> Sarah : No.

564
00:32:40,361 --> 00:32:41,681
>> Will: Possibly. Oh, okay.

565
00:32:41,681 --> 00:32:45,081
>> Sarah : No, no, no, I don't. I don't think that at all.

566
00:32:45,401 --> 00:32:52,521
When you said oil foil, like an adversary, I just.

567
00:32:52,521 --> 00:32:56,651
Yeah, I don't. I don't think, like, like, she.

568
00:32:56,811 --> 00:33:05,531
She's not gonna be. Be. She's very powerful, but,

569
00:33:06,541 --> 00:33:09,661
she's also testing her limits. And we're starting

570
00:33:09,661 --> 00:33:13,141
to see. We've seen glimpses that, yeah, she can

571
00:33:13,141 --> 00:33:17,621
bring people back to life, but to an extent, at

572
00:33:17,621 --> 00:33:21,741
one point, if she's. She's gonna realize, like,

573
00:33:22,381 --> 00:33:25,301
she's also going to start trading lives. You get

574
00:33:25,301 --> 00:33:30,861
what I'm saying? So. So I. I think that. That they

575
00:33:30,861 --> 00:33:35,321
are just pushing her. but I don't. I don't think

576
00:33:35,321 --> 00:33:37,521
she's gonna replace us way too soon.

577
00:33:38,641 --> 00:33:39,121
>> Will: Okay.

578
00:33:39,121 --> 00:33:42,641
>> Sarah : Like. Like, no, there. There are plenty of other

579
00:33:43,921 --> 00:33:44,441
in this.

580
00:33:44,441 --> 00:33:46,601
>> Will: Yeah, I know. Well, the reason. Yeah, I just. I

581
00:33:46,601 --> 00:33:48,681
just. The reason why I just said that is, you

582
00:33:48,681 --> 00:33:53,441
know, the. Whenever we were just discussing a few

583
00:33:53,441 --> 00:33:55,641
minutes ago, I just thought would. Well, you said

584
00:33:55,641 --> 00:33:57,481
too early and stuff and whatnot, I was like, oh,

585
00:33:57,481 --> 00:33:59,631
you see, you think, you know, season five, you

586
00:33:59,631 --> 00:34:02,831
know, once Homelander meets his ultimate demise,

587
00:34:04,601 --> 00:34:07,561
which, you know, Are they like. And also when you

588
00:34:07,561 --> 00:34:09,881
said they're continuing Gen V, I was like, you

589
00:34:09,881 --> 00:34:11,761
know, who's going to be the next big. The big Bad.

590
00:34:11,761 --> 00:34:13,721
So that's why. That's where my head went there.

591
00:34:13,721 --> 00:34:14,281
That's all.

592
00:34:14,281 --> 00:34:17,561
>> Sarah : Yeah, she could be a, ah, villain on Gen V. She's

593
00:34:17,561 --> 00:34:21,721
not going to be like New Homelander or the boys.

594
00:34:21,801 --> 00:34:25,071
The boys is ending at season five, right? Yeah,

595
00:34:25,071 --> 00:34:27,591
that's the last season. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

596
00:34:27,671 --> 00:34:33,071
yeah. Anywho, So I know you explained to me how

597
00:34:33,071 --> 00:34:35,461
I'm supposed to transition, but, so what do you

598
00:34:35,461 --> 00:34:36,261
want me to do here?

599
00:34:36,901 --> 00:34:38,981
>> Will: Oh, you're doing it. Okay.

600
00:34:39,621 --> 00:34:43,341
>> Sarah : Okay. You just, you kind of freaking me out. When

601
00:34:43,341 --> 00:34:45,461
we were first starting this show, it's like, well,

602
00:34:45,461 --> 00:34:46,781
what does he want me to do?

603
00:34:46,781 --> 00:34:50,911
>> Will: Go ahead, I'll drop you. We are good. Let's go.

604
00:34:50,911 --> 00:34:54,831
>> Sarah : Okay. All right. Severance season two, episode

605
00:34:54,831 --> 00:34:59,111
one. Hello, Mrs. Cobell. Or Ms. Cobell. Mark

606
00:34:59,111 --> 00:35:01,431
returns to work. Under different circumstances,

607
00:35:01,431 --> 00:35:04,911
secrets from the Audi work world come to light.

608
00:35:06,671 --> 00:35:13,341
So, fun fact, embarrassing fact. I was totally

609
00:35:13,341 --> 00:35:17,911
going to watch the previously on. And I

610
00:35:17,911 --> 00:35:23,831
inadvertently skipped it. And so I did not watch

611
00:35:23,911 --> 00:35:29,151
the previously on. Was I confused? No, because I

612
00:35:29,151 --> 00:35:33,151
think this is one of the best episodes for a

613
00:35:33,151 --> 00:35:37,191
television show with so much lore to

614
00:35:38,151 --> 00:35:42,531
simultaneously remind the viewers about seeing

615
00:35:42,681 --> 00:35:45,241
certain events, specifically in this case the

616
00:35:45,241 --> 00:35:49,641
finale of season one, while also bringing.

617
00:35:50,041 --> 00:35:55,241
Bringing. Not being an exposition dumps at all.

618
00:35:55,961 --> 00:35:56,441
>> Will: Yeah.

619
00:35:56,601 --> 00:36:02,281
>> Sarah : And just still everyone is confused as hell. But I

620
00:36:02,361 --> 00:36:06,121
just, I don't know what it is about the show, but

621
00:36:06,201 --> 00:36:11,041
I found it very easy to be like, yeah, I remember

622
00:36:11,041 --> 00:36:14,321
that. Happy. I remember them talking about this. I

623
00:36:14,321 --> 00:36:19,641
remember the wife. I re. I remember, the. The dark

624
00:36:19,641 --> 00:36:23,601
hallway that leads to an elevator shaft with a

625
00:36:23,601 --> 00:36:28,001
downward, arrow. Which is actually where, if my

626
00:36:28,001 --> 00:36:30,521
memory serves correctly, as last time we saw Mrs.

627
00:36:30,521 --> 00:36:37,651
Casey. Ms. Casey. so I, I, like this episode for

628
00:36:37,651 --> 00:36:44,691
that reason. as a whole, I feel like this episode

629
00:36:45,651 --> 00:36:51,811
because we have to meet the new team. We're very

630
00:36:51,811 --> 00:36:54,971
much like Mark, where it's like this episode can

631
00:36:54,971 --> 00:37:00,061
be divided into two. The new team portion and then

632
00:37:00,061 --> 00:37:04,101
the band getting back together again portion.

633
00:37:05,461 --> 00:37:10,811
That's the episode. But, I know you were trying to

634
00:37:11,291 --> 00:37:13,611
re, watch season one before you watched season

635
00:37:13,611 --> 00:37:14,011
two.

636
00:37:15,051 --> 00:37:20,731
>> Will: You did rip. Rewatched start to finish it. So.

637
00:37:20,971 --> 00:37:25,601
Yeah. And you know, this show. I now remember

638
00:37:25,601 --> 00:37:30,641
hearing about it. And, And so whenever we did turn

639
00:37:30,641 --> 00:37:34,081
on our Apple TV subscriptions, or at least I did,

640
00:37:34,421 --> 00:37:37,721
when we were, discussed in the studio earlier this

641
00:37:37,721 --> 00:37:40,861
year, you know, I came I started. I started the

642
00:37:40,861 --> 00:37:45,221
show then, and barely, you know, just had to zip

643
00:37:45,221 --> 00:37:48,361
through it because I did the frost trying to get

644
00:37:48,361 --> 00:37:51,961
it. Get it all. Get it all completed. And so I

645
00:37:51,961 --> 00:37:55,201
definitely did a re. Watch this go just to get

646
00:37:55,201 --> 00:37:57,961
ready for our discussions here. So I agree with

647
00:37:57,961 --> 00:38:02,301
you. The. The The. The way that they started this

648
00:38:02,701 --> 00:38:08,261
second season, where you know, just basically that

649
00:38:08,261 --> 00:38:13,711
moment she's alive and. And it was. It was very.

650
00:38:13,711 --> 00:38:16,191
You know, it was very well done the previous. I

651
00:38:16,191 --> 00:38:18,931
did watch the previously on as well. but you know

652
00:38:18,931 --> 00:38:26,351
I did hit the key critical points of. Of season

653
00:38:26,351 --> 00:38:31,831
one and also just really got you back into this

654
00:38:31,831 --> 00:38:34,151
world. And one of the things, I guess the thing

655
00:38:34,151 --> 00:38:36,561
that stood out for me the most, in addition to the

656
00:38:36,561 --> 00:38:38,481
points about like you said, setting up the new

657
00:38:38,481 --> 00:38:42,001
gang and also re getting the band back together.

658
00:38:42,481 --> 00:38:45,401
But also I think the biggest thing that stood out

659
00:38:45,401 --> 00:38:49,121
to me when I was watching this first episode was

660
00:38:49,521 --> 00:38:53,561
it was all told from the Innies perspective. There

661
00:38:53,561 --> 00:38:55,761
was no Audi at all.

662
00:38:56,081 --> 00:39:00,721
>> Sarah : Yes. Yeah, I mean that. That is the same thing

663
00:39:00,721 --> 00:39:07,051
that stuck out to me is we were. We were a. Any in

664
00:39:07,051 --> 00:39:13,361
a trap cage at this point. because we're told five

665
00:39:13,361 --> 00:39:15,881
months have passed since the events of season one.

666
00:39:16,041 --> 00:39:18,801
Then again, take it with a grain of salt. Don't

667
00:39:18,801 --> 00:39:22,521
know if that's true. Can't really determine. Mark

668
00:39:22,921 --> 00:39:26,761
has returned to work yet all of the. The three

669
00:39:26,761 --> 00:39:30,351
other cubicles all are. Have new faces and. And

670
00:39:31,071 --> 00:39:34,991
his team is not there. And he's informed by

671
00:39:35,161 --> 00:39:41,211
Melochek that he was the only one who wanted to

672
00:39:41,211 --> 00:39:47,131
return to work. The others did not. Which makes

673
00:39:47,371 --> 00:39:50,051
the second half of the episode that much more

674
00:39:50,051 --> 00:39:57,301
interesting and even beyond because then the. The

675
00:39:57,621 --> 00:40:04,011
Then like Mark pushes. Pushes the What do they

676
00:40:04,011 --> 00:40:08,751
call it? What rebellion was it? what are they

677
00:40:08,751 --> 00:40:12,031
called and known as the any.

678
00:40:12,911 --> 00:40:15,111
>> Will: Because it was. I know they were. The video. There

679
00:40:15,111 --> 00:40:17,671
was the video that had Keanu Reeves like doing the

680
00:40:17,671 --> 00:40:18,031
house.

681
00:40:18,031 --> 00:40:18,911
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah.

682
00:40:18,911 --> 00:40:19,551
>> Will: The building.

683
00:40:21,141 --> 00:40:25,381
>> Will: Oh gosh, the. The mic. Oh, macro that uprising.

684
00:40:25,701 --> 00:40:28,981
>> Sarah : Yeah, the macro that uprising. Notoriety, which is

685
00:40:28,981 --> 00:40:35,010
a big thing in Audi world. because the rules of

686
00:40:35,010 --> 00:40:39,211
severed people are still a very political

687
00:40:39,531 --> 00:40:42,251
controversial topic up there. The rights of

688
00:40:42,251 --> 00:40:49,961
severed people. So, so he then pushes that and is

689
00:40:49,961 --> 00:40:53,641
like if you want reform and then. Then bring me

690
00:40:53,641 --> 00:40:56,521
back my team. And the next thing we know, his team

691
00:40:56,521 --> 00:40:59,361
reappears and then they're all given the choice as

692
00:40:59,361 --> 00:41:04,641
Innies to stay or go. And we. And we very quickly

693
00:41:04,641 --> 00:41:09,441
see them all resolve to stay. But what was

694
00:41:09,441 --> 00:41:15,171
interesting is to your Point m. The entire episode

695
00:41:15,491 --> 00:41:20,051
is thrown. Shown through the. Any perspective. So

696
00:41:21,011 --> 00:41:25,891
given what we believe to have occurred or are told

697
00:41:26,051 --> 00:41:29,611
occurred with those three. And I'm talking about

698
00:41:29,611 --> 00:41:36,371
Dilly, Dylan, Irving and Holly are they. They.

699
00:41:38,431 --> 00:41:42,911
They experience like Mark, the outer world, but

700
00:41:43,231 --> 00:41:52,981
also their. Their. Their outer world. like I.

701
00:41:53,060 --> 00:41:53,421
>> Will: Where.

702
00:41:53,421 --> 00:41:58,101
>> Sarah : Where I'm going with this is essentially how did

703
00:41:58,101 --> 00:42:00,901
they even come back to begin with? Like what

704
00:42:01,061 --> 00:42:05,671
strings were pulled to even get them to come back

705
00:42:05,671 --> 00:42:10,111
and reappeared. So I would like that. That mystery

706
00:42:10,111 --> 00:42:13,941
to be solved, within like the next nine episodes.

707
00:42:14,821 --> 00:42:19,461
yeah, because I just. I just want to know not

708
00:42:19,461 --> 00:42:27,071
necessarily why they chose to stay, like, to not

709
00:42:27,071 --> 00:42:33,021
return, but more how they managed to, within the

710
00:42:33,021 --> 00:42:36,581
blink of an eye, push all three of them back into

711
00:42:37,141 --> 00:42:38,671
the, severed floor.

712
00:42:41,471 --> 00:42:44,311
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it was very, you know,

713
00:42:44,311 --> 00:42:48,071
whatever, you know, because what. You know,

714
00:42:48,071 --> 00:42:52,111
whenever they had the choice to, you know, and

715
00:42:52,431 --> 00:42:57,831
while they were in the Lore Room, wherever, you

716
00:42:57,831 --> 00:43:00,271
know, when they were showing that new onboarding

717
00:43:00,271 --> 00:43:04,111
video and had. Had. Had the choice and you know,

718
00:43:04,111 --> 00:43:06,771
at each, you know, I liked how they, you know, how

719
00:43:06,771 --> 00:43:10,491
they paired, you know, paired the two all, you

720
00:43:10,491 --> 00:43:14,171
know, the, the Dylan and Irvin off and then, you

721
00:43:14,171 --> 00:43:17,491
know, as far as like, you know, Urban admits that

722
00:43:17,491 --> 00:43:21,031
how he, you know, Saul is Audi pairing, painting,

723
00:43:21,031 --> 00:43:22,701
you know, you know, with his.

724
00:43:22,701 --> 00:43:24,661
>> Sarah : With the. The elevator shaft.

725
00:43:24,901 --> 00:43:28,021
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the elevator shaft. And also how

726
00:43:28,021 --> 00:43:31,581
Bert was, you know, with his partner. And you

727
00:43:31,581 --> 00:43:35,541
know, it was. It was like. No, go ahead.

728
00:43:35,541 --> 00:43:37,941
>> Sarah : No, no, no, you brought up Bert for some reason. I

729
00:43:37,941 --> 00:43:41,341
thought you were gonna mention Dylan. But the,

730
00:43:41,341 --> 00:43:45,381
the. The pairing that occurs in like this sequence

731
00:43:45,961 --> 00:43:48,081
is the same pairing that occurs in the final

732
00:43:48,081 --> 00:43:53,001
episode of last season. So, so the, the pairings,

733
00:43:54,491 --> 00:43:58,771
I thought were good just because of their

734
00:43:58,771 --> 00:44:02,901
complicated relationships. but what I thought was

735
00:44:02,901 --> 00:44:05,981
the most interesting with Dylan and Irving was

736
00:44:05,981 --> 00:44:11,461
more of the. Is anybody gonna question Dylan about

737
00:44:11,461 --> 00:44:15,951
what he saw? He saw his family.

738
00:44:16,911 --> 00:44:17,391
>> Will: Yeah.

739
00:44:17,471 --> 00:44:21,151
>> Sarah : And. And then that very thing is what Melich

740
00:44:21,631 --> 00:44:27,151
manipulates to get him to stay and is like, now we

741
00:44:27,311 --> 00:44:31,551
are going to have a family visitation for the

742
00:44:31,551 --> 00:44:35,191
Innies. And then. Which even gets more complicated

743
00:44:35,191 --> 00:44:41,041
when you think about the implications of what Mark

744
00:44:41,441 --> 00:44:44,041
is dealing with, considering his feelings for

745
00:44:44,041 --> 00:44:48,521
Holly are. Or helly heliar and his realization,

746
00:44:49,561 --> 00:44:53,641
that Mrs. Casey or the Ms. Casey.

747
00:44:54,361 --> 00:44:54,841
>> Will: Yeah.

748
00:44:55,081 --> 00:45:01,041
>> Sarah : In Audi world was his. Is his wife. So like, like

749
00:45:01,041 --> 00:45:05,721
that whole thing of, okay, I'm married as an Audi,

750
00:45:05,721 --> 00:45:11,291
but as an innie, I love you, I have a family as an

751
00:45:11,291 --> 00:45:16,051
Audi, but as an Innie, I'm Just a solo person. So

752
00:45:16,051 --> 00:45:21,511
is that. Yeah, that, that is Very crafty writing.

753
00:45:22,391 --> 00:45:26,111
>> Will: That was, that was. I was, I was, I was so wrapped

754
00:45:26,111 --> 00:45:30,071
around that, that, that whole moment in that it.

755
00:45:30,071 --> 00:45:34,561
When he and Halle were Helly were talking you

756
00:45:34,561 --> 00:45:37,401
know. You know that the whole conversation about

757
00:45:37,721 --> 00:45:43,561
him learning that his Audi self had is she's alive

758
00:45:43,641 --> 00:45:47,361
and, and, and their feelings and you know, and

759
00:45:47,361 --> 00:45:52,121
then in particular how when they were all in the

760
00:45:52,121 --> 00:45:55,681
room there together and how you know she learned

761
00:45:55,681 --> 00:45:59,691
that she's an Indian in and and and she just

762
00:45:59,691 --> 00:46:04,811
basically. Which was so. You know it was so

763
00:46:04,811 --> 00:46:08,051
interesting when she just basically like lied to

764
00:46:08,051 --> 00:46:11,291
them about what she experienced whenever they were

765
00:46:11,291 --> 00:46:19,141
in the overtime period. and you're not sharing the

766
00:46:19,141 --> 00:46:21,631
whole you know that she was. You know that she's

767
00:46:22,151 --> 00:46:25,591
part of the family that owns this company and and,

768
00:46:25,671 --> 00:46:29,991
and and and then she just basically you know. And,

769
00:46:29,991 --> 00:46:33,271
and then the reason I was kind of like wow.

770
00:46:33,351 --> 00:46:37,111
Especially given how hell bent she was on like

771
00:46:37,191 --> 00:46:41,871
trying to quit the first season and, and now you

772
00:46:41,871 --> 00:46:43,871
know she's choosing to stay in. But you know she

773
00:46:43,871 --> 00:46:46,511
just sort of told us lie to let. Oh yeah, it was

774
00:46:46,511 --> 00:46:48,901
just kind of boring. I just like this is at my

775
00:46:48,901 --> 00:46:51,461
apartment you know, kind of thing. So that was

776
00:46:51,461 --> 00:46:55,141
just like that, that was one. That was where I was

777
00:46:55,141 --> 00:46:56,901
just like okay where is this going to go? And

778
00:46:56,901 --> 00:47:00,181
what's. Why does she, why does she like not tell

779
00:47:00,181 --> 00:47:03,861
them what she experienced whenever and who she,

780
00:47:03,861 --> 00:47:06,141
who she is as a, as an Audi.

781
00:47:06,341 --> 00:47:13,461
>> Sarah : in that yeah I, I understood why she wouldn't. I

782
00:47:13,461 --> 00:47:20,091
mean she is the enemy like and now as an Audi if

783
00:47:20,091 --> 00:47:23,771
she was to tell them hey guys. So just let you

784
00:47:23,771 --> 00:47:28,361
know when I was in when I was up top I realized

785
00:47:28,441 --> 00:47:32,361
that I'm actually one of the people you guys hate.

786
00:47:33,721 --> 00:47:38,281
So I'm part of the problem. And so I think that's

787
00:47:38,281 --> 00:47:43,651
also why she stays is because when, when faced

788
00:47:43,651 --> 00:47:47,531
with the outer world of who she is, where she

789
00:47:47,531 --> 00:47:55,491
comes from, she would now now is like I felt I

790
00:47:55,731 --> 00:47:59,171
don't belong out there. I, I like who I am in

791
00:47:59,171 --> 00:48:02,851
here. I think that's why as an innie she would

792
00:48:02,851 --> 00:48:06,381
choose to stay. And also yeah the whole thing with

793
00:48:06,381 --> 00:48:13,091
Mark, I, I do believe her when, when she. Because

794
00:48:13,411 --> 00:48:16,661
I think that The more I I think about this whole

795
00:48:16,821 --> 00:48:20,501
dynamic of of what, what you just brought up with

796
00:48:20,501 --> 00:48:27,421
her is okay if I'm right then she mainly wants to

797
00:48:27,421 --> 00:48:32,471
help Mark find Casey as an innie. Because, because

798
00:48:32,631 --> 00:48:35,871
he says early on in that conversation just so you

799
00:48:35,871 --> 00:48:39,951
know, I never felt that way about Mrs. Casey. Ms.

800
00:48:39,951 --> 00:48:40,551
Casey.

801
00:48:40,551 --> 00:48:41,691
>> Will: Yeah, that's true.

802
00:48:41,691 --> 00:48:48,731
>> Sarah : So if they find her and suddenly the idea that the

803
00:48:48,731 --> 00:48:52,491
knowledge that as an Audi he is married to her

804
00:48:53,451 --> 00:48:56,931
suddenly like. And then finding her again as an

805
00:48:56,931 --> 00:49:02,821
innie. The like, that's the true test of, how he

806
00:49:02,821 --> 00:49:05,941
feels about heli. Because then, then it's the

807
00:49:05,941 --> 00:49:09,901
reality. Then it's like, okay, well we're. Now,

808
00:49:09,981 --> 00:49:12,581
now you can prove to me that you never had

809
00:49:12,581 --> 00:49:16,541
feelings for her down here. Because I think also

810
00:49:16,541 --> 00:49:20,741
what Heli could be doing is being like, I can only

811
00:49:20,741 --> 00:49:23,691
be with him as if an innie.

812
00:49:24,481 --> 00:49:27,721
>> Sarah : And he can only be with me as an innie.

813
00:49:27,721 --> 00:49:29,001
>> Will: As an innie. Yeah.

814
00:49:29,001 --> 00:49:30,361
>> Sarah : Yeah. So.

815
00:49:30,441 --> 00:49:30,881
>> Will: Yeah.

816
00:49:30,881 --> 00:49:34,881
>> Sarah : But, but the, the Casey of it all is so

817
00:49:34,881 --> 00:49:38,281
fascinating just because the whole implications

818
00:49:38,521 --> 00:49:44,121
of. Because she. She's shown as alive in the outer

819
00:49:44,121 --> 00:49:50,181
world. no, no, she's not. But we're, we just are

820
00:49:50,181 --> 00:49:51,541
shown that photo. Right?

821
00:49:51,701 --> 00:49:53,381
>> Will: We're so we're showing the photo.

822
00:49:53,701 --> 00:49:57,141
>> Sarah : We're showing the photo. So the last time we see

823
00:49:57,141 --> 00:50:03,100
Casey as an innie is the dark hallway M. Which for

824
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:06,501
all intents and purposes, my mind until proven

825
00:50:06,501 --> 00:50:08,901
otherwise, indicates death.

826
00:50:10,901 --> 00:50:11,381
>> Will: Yeah.

827
00:50:12,101 --> 00:50:13,221
>> Sarah : And hell yeah.

828
00:50:15,301 --> 00:50:18,741
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, they definitely. Yeah, yeah. that,

829
00:50:18,741 --> 00:50:20,941
that, that, that seems to be, that seems to be the

830
00:50:20,941 --> 00:50:23,421
implication. it's that, especially, you know,

831
00:50:23,421 --> 00:50:25,941
because, well, the whole wellness area is gone and

832
00:50:25,941 --> 00:50:27,661
all that kind of stuff. Because I know. Because

833
00:50:27,661 --> 00:50:29,501
that's the whole, you know, whenever we start the

834
00:50:29,501 --> 00:50:32,621
episode. Yeah. When Mark. Yeah. He's just like

835
00:50:32,621 --> 00:50:34,621
running down the labyrinth of all these halls and

836
00:50:34,621 --> 00:50:37,221
it was just so, I mean it just, it's just from

837
00:50:37,221 --> 00:50:39,981
just getting you back into the framework of the

838
00:50:39,981 --> 00:50:45,701
show that with that start it was just like. Yeah,

839
00:50:45,701 --> 00:50:48,381
I mean I, I felt like I was going down a spiral

840
00:50:48,381 --> 00:50:48,701
with.

841
00:50:50,061 --> 00:50:52,461
>> Sarah : I felt like I was just watching Tom Cruise run.

842
00:50:53,341 --> 00:50:57,271
>> Will: Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, I know

843
00:50:57,271 --> 00:50:59,151
you would, but that's how I felt.

844
00:50:59,151 --> 00:51:02,831
>> Sarah : No, no, no, I, I'm. I'm kind of also agreeing with

845
00:51:02,831 --> 00:51:03,551
you as well.

846
00:51:03,791 --> 00:51:04,591
>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

847
00:51:05,471 --> 00:51:07,831
>> Sarah : There was something else that I just thought of

848
00:51:07,831 --> 00:51:09,411
and I completely, completely forgot.

849
00:51:09,411 --> 00:51:12,971
>> Will: About all the throttle as far as military.

850
00:51:12,971 --> 00:51:20,371
>> Sarah : No, no. or miss New team. And, and here, here's

851
00:51:20,371 --> 00:51:25,451
another thing about. I like the structure of this

852
00:51:25,451 --> 00:51:31,411
episode because if we think about it, the later

853
00:51:31,411 --> 00:51:34,271
half of the episode with the Innies of our

854
00:51:34,271 --> 00:51:37,831
original team and the contemplation to stay or go,

855
00:51:38,951 --> 00:51:43,031
Dylan mentions something at, ah, the very like

856
00:51:43,031 --> 00:51:46,271
towards the beginning of the returning and finding

857
00:51:46,271 --> 00:51:50,101
out that they were all Replaced. And he says to

858
00:51:50,101 --> 00:51:54,541
Mark about whatever happened to his new team. I

859
00:51:54,541 --> 00:51:56,981
don't think you should feel bad for ending their

860
00:51:56,981 --> 00:51:59,991
lives. I'm sure they deserved it. So with that

861
00:52:00,071 --> 00:52:07,631
line is the implication that a, that team, now

862
00:52:07,631 --> 00:52:11,111
that they are no longer there, they're, they're,

863
00:52:11,191 --> 00:52:15,911
they're dead. Dead. Like, like. And, and does that

864
00:52:15,911 --> 00:52:20,271
implication mean for innies as a whole? Innies can

865
00:52:20,271 --> 00:52:24,231
only exist on the severed floor. So technically

866
00:52:24,231 --> 00:52:31,061
speaking speaking, there is no stay or go. The

867
00:52:31,061 --> 00:52:34,581
real choice that they were given was either you

868
00:52:34,581 --> 00:52:38,541
can stay existing or you can go and be non

869
00:52:38,541 --> 00:52:39,301
existent.

870
00:52:41,221 --> 00:52:47,171
>> Will: As. Yeah, I, I guess, I guess it becomes a And I'm

871
00:52:47,171 --> 00:52:50,271
glad you brought that line up because does it,

872
00:52:50,271 --> 00:52:53,911
does it mean a figurative death 40 or a little

873
00:52:53,911 --> 00:52:57,751
different? Any, but you can go back to your, your

874
00:52:57,751 --> 00:52:59,991
life as an Audi, like we saw with Burt.

875
00:53:00,951 --> 00:53:07,991
>> Sarah : Yeah. And, and, and what does that mean? Like to

876
00:53:07,991 --> 00:53:15,001
be in to be in a severed person but not work on

877
00:53:15,001 --> 00:53:18,771
that floor? Or, or like not go into that severed

878
00:53:18,771 --> 00:53:24,811
workplace at all? Like, I, I don't know. It, it's,

879
00:53:24,811 --> 00:53:29,091
yeah. It's why shows like this work.

880
00:53:30,051 --> 00:53:30,101
>> Will: Hm.

881
00:53:30,531 --> 00:53:34,211
>> Sarah : Because then you tap into the whole humanity and

882
00:53:34,291 --> 00:53:38,611
morality and this is why we love science fiction.

883
00:53:39,171 --> 00:53:44,571
>> Will: Totally. This is exactly, exactly. Yeah.

884
00:53:44,731 --> 00:53:48,491
>> Sarah : Because in the bizarre circumstances you can

885
00:53:48,571 --> 00:53:54,131
suddenly find like a grain of like, oh, thinking

886
00:53:54,131 --> 00:53:58,571
about these higher level con concepts of what it

887
00:53:58,571 --> 00:54:01,051
means to be a human and what it means to be alive

888
00:54:01,051 --> 00:54:04,661
and what it means to die and, and all of that. so

889
00:54:05,781 --> 00:54:09,341
yeah, I, I'm glad that we're talking about it. I

890
00:54:09,341 --> 00:54:14,371
know we're late, but I, I, I did really like this

891
00:54:14,371 --> 00:54:19,851
episode and and I'm excited. I'm not as eager as I

892
00:54:19,851 --> 00:54:22,491
thought I would be to get to see like the next

893
00:54:22,491 --> 00:54:26,291
episode, but I also know that we have it planned

894
00:54:26,291 --> 00:54:32,051
out so I'm just taking it drop by drop.

895
00:54:33,011 --> 00:54:36,191
>> Will: Oh yeah, no, no, I mean this is a show that you

896
00:54:36,191 --> 00:54:39,321
need you now. this is truly one where you do need

897
00:54:40,201 --> 00:54:43,881
time to like process it because there's, to your

898
00:54:43,881 --> 00:54:47,321
point, what you just said before, it really does

899
00:54:48,761 --> 00:54:53,521
get into some metaphysical, philosophical. You

900
00:54:53,521 --> 00:54:55,801
know. What? You know, you know, because it's

901
00:54:55,801 --> 00:54:59,521
dystopian. It's, it's like, you know, it's

902
00:54:59,521 --> 00:55:01,201
philosophical in a sense. Like, you know, what

903
00:55:01,201 --> 00:55:03,161
does it mean? You know. You know, because one of

904
00:55:03,161 --> 00:55:06,801
the things too is just like your identity and who

905
00:55:06,801 --> 00:55:07,161
you are.

906
00:55:07,161 --> 00:55:08,361
>> Sarah : Yes, yes.

907
00:55:08,521 --> 00:55:11,841
>> Will: And, yeah. And, and you know, are you your career

908
00:55:11,841 --> 00:55:14,481
or are you, are you more. I mean, it's just so

909
00:55:14,481 --> 00:55:16,601
Many levels of the, of this show that you can just

910
00:55:16,601 --> 00:55:19,921
peel back with it. So. Yeah, I'm just glad that

911
00:55:19,921 --> 00:55:22,281
we, you know, it's the evergreen show, thankfully,

912
00:55:22,281 --> 00:55:25,431
and I'm glad we're finally like, on, finally we're

913
00:55:25,431 --> 00:55:27,431
finally able to, you know, to talk about it

914
00:55:27,431 --> 00:55:28,791
because I know we didn't talk about season one

915
00:55:28,791 --> 00:55:30,361
years ago, but I'm glad we're talking about. About

916
00:55:30,361 --> 00:55:30,961
season two.

917
00:55:31,921 --> 00:55:37,281
>> Sarah : Okay. I. I'm slow, so. And you did say this to me

918
00:55:37,281 --> 00:55:40,721
earlier and I mentioned follow up. What does an

919
00:55:40,721 --> 00:55:42,001
evergreen show mean?

920
00:55:42,801 --> 00:55:44,081
>> Will: It means it's timeless.

921
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:46,561
>> Sarah : Okay.

922
00:55:46,561 --> 00:55:48,721
>> Will: Yeah, I mean, it's basically. It's like no matter,

923
00:55:48,721 --> 00:55:50,841
you know, this is like pine trees. This is like no

924
00:55:50,841 --> 00:55:54,521
matter what. What season or. it's. It's just to

925
00:55:54,521 --> 00:55:56,271
your point that you were just, you were just

926
00:55:56,271 --> 00:56:00,471
sharing why this show, whether you're watching it

927
00:56:00,471 --> 00:56:04,351
in 20 when it first came out or now, you know,

928
00:56:04,351 --> 00:56:06,151
whenever you pick it up, it's always going to be

929
00:56:06,151 --> 00:56:06,631
topical.

930
00:56:08,791 --> 00:56:15,271
>> Sarah : Yeah, I think it's. I think it's a bit premature

931
00:56:15,271 --> 00:56:19,351
to call it an evergreen show. It only was

932
00:56:19,351 --> 00:56:22,591
released. The second season only premiered in

933
00:56:22,591 --> 00:56:25,191
January of this year. Not that late.

934
00:56:25,991 --> 00:56:29,091
>> Will: No, but, no, but, but one. You know, it wasn't

935
00:56:29,091 --> 00:56:32,051
like season one was like this big. Like, you know,

936
00:56:32,051 --> 00:56:34,851
oh, you must run, get out, go watch Apple. It was

937
00:56:34,851 --> 00:56:38,851
like later on when it, it gained momentum over

938
00:56:38,931 --> 00:56:42,291
time and you, you know, I mean, hell yeah. So.

939
00:56:42,291 --> 00:56:44,611
>> Sarah : Yeah, but I don't think it was like a cult classic

940
00:56:44,611 --> 00:56:45,571
or anything. I think.

941
00:56:45,571 --> 00:56:47,011
>> Will: Oh, it was a couple. It was.

942
00:56:47,011 --> 00:56:48,211
>> Sarah : I don't think so.

943
00:56:48,211 --> 00:56:51,731
>> Will: I don't think it was. Yeah, it was a cult classic.

944
00:56:51,811 --> 00:56:52,331
>> Sarah : Okay.

945
00:56:52,331 --> 00:56:52,851
>> Will: I mean.

946
00:56:53,011 --> 00:56:55,601
>> Sarah : Yeah, I'm just gonna agree because he's just gonna

947
00:56:55,601 --> 00:57:00,161
repeat it. Okay, well, let it.

948
00:57:00,161 --> 00:57:02,201
>> Will: Well, folks, if you're. Yeah. Let the, Let the,

949
00:57:02,201 --> 00:57:04,801
Let the people speak. Is it. Was it an evergreen?

950
00:57:04,801 --> 00:57:10,841
It was a cult classic or not. I think it was. But,

951
00:57:10,791 --> 00:57:12,611
you don't. So we'll, we'll put it to a.

952
00:57:12,611 --> 00:57:15,571
>> Sarah : What. What's your definition of a cult classic?

953
00:57:16,531 --> 00:57:20,201
>> Will: I mean, I mean, because to me.

954
00:57:20,201 --> 00:57:23,801
>> Sarah : That implies it flopped and I don't think it

955
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flopped. I heard about it from the time it was

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released. And then.

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>> Will: Cult classic doesn't necessarily mean to flop. A

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cult classic is. It's a very niche thing, but some

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over time it, it grows because of word of mouth.

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>> Sarah : Right.

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>> Will: So,

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>> Sarah : Okay, we're gonna, gonna work on our shared

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definitions moving forward.

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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the great thing about it.

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I mean. Yeah. I mean, we'll probably come through

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somewhere.

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>> Sarah : I shouldn't have brought it up. I should not. I

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should have waited till post show to bring it up.

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We were ending on such a lovely moment and I just

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I had to make a comment and that has led a spiral.

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So all I will say is on that note will want to

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tell our listeners where they can find find you.

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>> Will: Yes you can find me wherever you get your socials

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at Will and Polk W I L L M P.

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>> Sarah : O L K and you can find me there too at SJ Belmont

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