First Impressions: The Studio S1E1 & Rogue One Rewatch After Andor

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>> Will: Music

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>> Sarah : Greetings Nerds, This is Scene N Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah

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Belmont. and with me, as always, is our Mr. Producer, Will Polk How are you doing

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tonight, Will?

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>> Will: Doing very well, Sarah. How you doing this Tuesday evening?

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>> Sarah : I'm doing good, but. So,

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Okay. I don't know if our listeners have noticed,

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but a few weeks ago, Will made

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an executive decision and kicked all of our news

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items to the end of the show, which I'm

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fine with. I am perfectly fine with.

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But now

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it's when he does these little things where

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I'm like, we're really going to save that for the end of the

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show. That's a great opener. Why

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does Will hate Stranger Things?

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>> Will: Let's start right there. Okay. I Don't hate

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Stranger Things.

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>> Sarah : Well, okay, you. You

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may not hate it, but

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I'm just.

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>> Will: I've just forgotten what the hell happened with it. It's just been,

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like, what, 10. It's been like, 10. 10 years. And,

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like, it's like.

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>> Sarah : Okay, you don't remember

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the mo. The only thing that I arguably

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remember. Well, I remember a

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few things. Vecna, the Big

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Bad, was what we found

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out was, like, the original

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was also created by the same people who created 11.

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And like, they. They had

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a relationship of sorts, and

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she. So. So they tied it very

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cleverly all the way back to the first episode, to the

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pilot episode. So that's. That's everything going on with

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11, and that's the only important stuff because

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90 of what happens in seasons three

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and four revolving around 11 does

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not matter except for that fact.

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Okay, then. Then the other most

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important thing, the. The

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only reason why I remember season four

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and, and season four has stuck with me is

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because of Sadie Sink and

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her whole, like, Vecna going after

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her and. And then. And then us not

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knowing if she's alive or dead

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because we see in her mind, like, she's

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unconscious, in a coma, and

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she's no longer in that living room

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space. So I remember things.

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I do agree with you. Like,

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Stranger Things is one of those shows where

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hits the. The, the zeitgeist,

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and then it disappears. And then you. You're

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like, oh, like I've forgotten about you.

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But every time we come

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back to it, I feel like, for better or for

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worse, like, especially season four, I was

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checked out after season three, but.

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But like Maya Hawk, I remember, was the

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only reason why I liked season three.

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and was still someone on board. Maya

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and. And Steve like

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their dynamic. So. So the.

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For whatever reason, I feel like it's one of

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those shows where honestly, I think time apart is

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important.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : and then it'll hit. And, and,

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and this is the last time it'll hit. And it's coming

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in three parts. We got the first part

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now. Now all I hear is parts. So you're

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gonna have to fill me in on how many episodes we're

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expecting on, what was it, November

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26th, this Christmas Day.

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And New Year's.

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>> Will: Yeah, New Year's Eve. So it's eight. It's eight episodes for

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the final season.

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>> Sarah : Each.

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>> Will: No, total.

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>> Sarah : Total. So how many parts? Like

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part one we're getting how many? no, there's three

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parts.

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>> Will: Right.

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>> Sarah : So how did they divide it?

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>> Will: I don't, I haven't looked to see how they

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have broken it down, but I did look to see what was the

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episode count. It was like eight episodes.

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>> Sarah : Okay.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Okay. I wonder which one got short.

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Probably the New Year's Eve. It is probably going to

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be 332. Yeah,

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yeah. Okay, that makes sense.

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>> Will: yeah, because I would think one of them would be like a very

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like feature, almost a feature length, you know,

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ending or, or, or, or beginning. So.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. The New Year's. The New Year's Eve is going to be

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like that one. The ending, the,

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the like and, and, but we don't know

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episode links because I remember season four, especially

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the second half of season four, it was like,

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whoa, we may be

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getting four episodes, but they were like

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two hours long each.

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>> Will: So, so yeah, so I went quickly, while we

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were talking, I went to netflix.com because

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they, they did the big to dumb release that they're

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big like streaming thing over the

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weekend. and so it's going to be four

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episodes on November

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26th.

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>> Sarah : Right?

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>> Will: That's on Christmas. And the finale will be New Year's

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Day, a New Year's Eve.

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>> Sarah : Oh, so they go, they went four, three,

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one. But that one episode will probably be

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three and a half hours long.

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>> Will: Probably.

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Exactly, exactly.

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>> Sarah : And I will probably fast forward 40 minutes of

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it.

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>> Will: Yeah, you know, I, ah, I did. Yeah, because I guess,

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you know, they did have their big event over the weekend and that

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they did have a, I guess a sizzle reel

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that had maybe basically was like a recap

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of like, I did watch it. It just had like a recap. It just pretty

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much everything up to this point and then just

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a few, just a hand. Just a handful

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of scenes. Not even a handful, just

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a tease of scenes, for the final season, which, you know,

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which obviously you know, which makes, makes total sense and

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you know it's one of those things everybody's gonna tune in. So you don't need a

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full. You don't need a trailer?

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>> Sarah : No, no, no. also at that event

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and also what we are expecting to arrive now

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in 2026, early 2026 is

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One Piece season two. Did they show

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anything? I mean, I, I know we got teased the

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character because I forget the character's name,

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but they showed up.

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>> Will: Yeah, Tony. Tony Chopper, which apparently.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I know

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the Internet's went nuts because apparently, you

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know, both of us are, are non

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watchers of the. Or readers of the manga

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or watch or animated stuff.

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So we're coming to a fresh, you know,

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eyes, no backstory, but I just

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know all the fandom and we're

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very, very excited with the news of this particular character showing up.

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>> Sarah : Yeah.

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>> Will: So, yes, if you're a one piece,

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aficionado and can, you know, can fill us in on

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just what the backstory is, for for

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this character. please, I'm happy to, Happy to

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hear it. So just, just hit it in the comments or, or hit

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us on our socials.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, but, but limit because don't

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spoil.

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>> Will: That's for.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, like, like, sure, sure.

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Give it grace. I know that's like, that's the

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hardest thing to do. And you know this. Like,

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you, you want to tell people information,

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but then again, you have to be. You can't

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spoil anything because a, part of the reason

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why I liked One Piece Season one is because I, I

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didn't have any, any

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sense of the world. Like, they really

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had to develop it for me and flesh out

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the live action version of this world

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and, and I had to get into it that way

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as opposed to, oh, well, I'm gonna watch this

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show. So let me do a,

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What is One Piece 101?

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Like, it's. I don't know. I, I'm.

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But so, so I've done the same thing.

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Yeah. Yeah, little overviews are good. But.

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But be careful. we don't have to wait

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for 2026 for the next one. But we are

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anticipating it, I think in September of

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this year, Gen V Season two. And I did

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watch the trailer

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and. Yeah. Yeah, like,

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let's go.

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>> Will: Yep, exactly. Yeah, I,

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I really, you know, really enjoyed that

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trailer. and you know, it did. Obviously we

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did. We sadly did lose a chance.

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Pernomo, as he was sadly heading to

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film season two and had that tragic motor,

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motorcycle accident. But, but you know, they

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did work it, you Know, we did see how they were going to work it into

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the, in the trailer and, but also, you know,

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we do see a new superintendent for the school and,

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and since. And also the tie ins

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to the, the previous, season of the

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Boy. So, yeah, I'm like, I'm with you.

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Like, let's go.

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>> Sarah : Yep. Yep, let's, let's go.

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>> Will: So, yeah, but the first, yeah, but the

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first three episodes will drop September 17th and

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then the ballot, the remaining five will,

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air each Wednesday, concluding, on October

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22nd.

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>> Sarah : All right, well, now that we're done talking about

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things that are new and ahead, we must

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revisit the past because Will made me.

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and we both have rewatched Rogue

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One A Star Wars Story, because

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obviously we've Finished Andor Season 2

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Not Too Long ago.

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and, and so Will, Why don't you kick us

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off on this revisit to this movie?

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>> Will: Yeah, well, before I hit the rewatch of

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the whole of, Rogue One, we're also covering the studio

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tonight. So we're basically going to the galaxy far, far

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away and then we're also going to be

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talking about Rogue One, which, Yeah, I just really

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wanted to just know your thoughts

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after watching

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Andor. What was,

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what was your initial impression with Rogue One

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whenever you first watched the film and then now

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after Andor. How has that changed

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your, your, your thoughts about the movie?

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Sarah?

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>> Sarah : Okay, okay. Everyone heard the question

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and everyone knows that I'm being gonna be honest.

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my initial impression of the movie. I, I, loved

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Rogue One. I remember watching it in theaters, having

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a blast re watching it after

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and, or season two. Did not like it as much.

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Did not like it as much for

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so many reasons.

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but, but yeah, yeah, so, so that

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is that. Yep, that is my

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answer. Yeah.

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>> Will: No, I mean, and that's, that's, I appreciate your

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honesty. I mean, I, you know, I,

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I, I've watched it twice now after, after

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I watched it immediately after I finished Andor.

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And, and then I watched it again,

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this, this, this past weekend. And I

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will say I think after the initial

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high of like coming off of

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season two of Andor. Yeah.

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And I even said before it definitely hits different.

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and, and I still think it does. I mean, I think it

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definitely fleshes out a lot of things

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and we'll, you know, we can get into it as we, as we discuss it

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here tonight. But, but on second

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re. Watch after having a, having a

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week or so after, after the finale

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of Andor, I, I definitely

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where that, that. That high

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elements, all of this. Elements of the. Of. Of

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well for me. But also, But there are some

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things that. That really double down my

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feelings about

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other. Other. Other aspects of the film. And one of the first ones

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is, you know, really

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Cassian's journey. To me, really, I think

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Andor definitely makes Cassian's journey

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and the Cassian Andor that we see and

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in Rogue One, I. I, feel like it definitely elevates

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his story before because I remember when I initially watched

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Rogue One and especially thinking back to 20, guess

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19 or 18, when they like were going to have this

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series, you know, it. It.

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I, was like Of the characters in this film, you

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know, I always

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thought it was generous of his film. And, and that's the other

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thing too. Even with Cassian's story being

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fleshed out more, I still feel like this,

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that. That Rogue One is still Jen's story.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Will: But they're. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : What were you gonna say?

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>> Will: No, but, but, but, but, but no, I still feel

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as Jen story. But also. I see. But

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also, I think especially on the second re watch,

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the. The parallels between the two characters

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are just even more pronounced to me now than they

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah.

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coming off of Andor season two, I. I think

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Andor is a bit judgmental of Jin.

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I, do that. And honestly, upon

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re watching, I don't think this is movies anybody's story.

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so quick. Everything is so quick.

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lasts at least half of the movie, if not like a

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good third of the movie long. So, so

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they. I was. That's what took me back.

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Like, I was like, whoa. I don't. I thought,

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man, we. We barely get anything.

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character, introduce this character, introduce this character.

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This character, this MacGuffin. This, this.

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And to get the crew together to get

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them all on Jetta and everything. Like,

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yeah, it's Jin's story because

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the father aspect of course, and

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the Krennic, like. And I do appreciate

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overall all of the dialogue about

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like, which side are you on?

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in this movie. And I think that's what I enjoyed about

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it the first time I watched it. But the

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second time I just I was,

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I was sitting there like, well, and or now that I know

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your story and how you came here, like,

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who are you to call Jen the flip flopper

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when like a year prior

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you were ready to to abandon the

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rebellion? You're a

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bit high and mighty to be like,

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I don't know, there was just a few things

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and then some of the dialogue

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just the rebellion was built on hope. I'm

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just like, okay, I feel like I've heard this line

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now 600 times, so can

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we ixnay on it? and it's just I,

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I think that I know

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everyone compares this movie to

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like a war film,

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which, which is true. And, and, and

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I think that in, in a lot

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of war films, I'm gonna, I'm gonna pull a

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Nolan Dunkirk. So

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Dunkirk isn't about any of the

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soldiers. It's about the event.

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harbor, like

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really that should have been about the event,

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but they tacked on a full love

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triangle and all of this other stuff. So

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it was about the event and like an hour

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and a half of bs.

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an extent if I, I feel like

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part of the angle was like this is more

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about rectifying

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how these plans got to where they needed

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to go in solving this mystery and

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also why, why it was so

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easy to destroy the Death Star, like

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to retcon all of that.

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they skimmed and they gave us like,

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like surface, level characters. But

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I, I just have a hard time after re

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watching it and just spending what

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felt like 1800 hours with Andor

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that this

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movie is, is not anyone's story.

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about this, how to

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defeat the Death Star and like everyone

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else. And I think also because everyone dies.

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So like they're gonna

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only spend so much time they, they have like what,

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25 characters set up in this

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movie.

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>> Will: There were a lot. There were a lot. I will, I agree with you on the

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point. I guess that's the other thing too. I think,

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that I, I, that I agree with you that it was

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a felt and even it, that this was an ensemble

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film. but also I would even say that andor

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was in a lot of ways an ensemble show. because

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you know, we, you know, when we think about the rich tapestries

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of, of characters that, that

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we, that we, we learn about

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over the course of, of the, of the two

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seasons, you know, you know, we definitely get some more

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establishment of, you know, Krennic, especially

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in season two.

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you know, so at least whenever we see his journey, you know,

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we see, critics, you know,

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ambition.

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>> Sarah : really we got. Sorry to cut you

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off, but we got way more Krennic in this movie

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than we did Andor. However, I

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will say his scenes in Andor are better

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than his scenes in this movie. Yeah,

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it's weird to me, but like. And

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maybe it's because we got too much of Krennic

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arguably. So like he.

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I felt like he was more

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of a villain. and probably because

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Tarkin wasn't really around during

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Andor, at least from m. What we saw. So.

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>> Will: So.

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>> Sarah : But. But so. So there wasn't

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that. And. And then you had Deidre and

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Cyril. So

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Krennic was. Came.

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Came out there and fully

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filling that. That. That next

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boss level villain while.

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While in Rogue One. Like he.

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He could. He. He's. He's the Cyril of

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Rogue One.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah. He's like. Yeah. Especially whenever he gives the line

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we stand here amid, M. My achievement, you know, not

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yours. Especially when he's. When he's talking to Tarkin. So.

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>> Sarah : Right.

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>> Will: You know, so he's just, you know, his. His ambition, you

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know, and it was just to your point, you know,

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where you know, in. In. In. In

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and. Or he was definitely, you know, more center stage because, you know,

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we. We whole

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you know, Cal Kite backstory and you

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know, how is. ISB

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was him being a part of the director at

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Built. You know, building it. But I will say I will

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like. But one thing I do like the hell that andor,

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With all the. All the. All the breakdowns and security

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and stuff, Whenever you approach. When you see it

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know, in. In. In. In Rogue One and how

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Vader comes in and like takes over, you know,

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the project and stuff. As far as. Because of all the security

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failures and everything else. I think it definitely,

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you know, show. It reminds me of the conversation

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that. That Krennic and part of. Had in Andor. As

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far as, you know, save the. Save the speech and the groveling for the.

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You know, for Palpatine.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. Like. Like also Darth

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Vader's in this movie and

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comes and. And we see one of the more iconic

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Darth Vader sequences at the end.

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So I, I think. I think

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it's That's the thing about

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Star wars and its villains. It can create really good

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villains, but there's always the next one

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which. And they always seem to undermine

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the previous one that they built Up So it's just

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this weird thing and arguably with the

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heroes it's a very similar pattern but A

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very large galaxy. So.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : So yeah.

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>> Will: Yeah. Another thing too is just thinking about

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grin and then we can We can talk about a couple other things.

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But the other thing. The other thing that, that really hit

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harder for me as far as when I was saying things hit hard

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for me after watching it was just whenever Crank was

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looking up at Scarif and seeing the Death Star right before

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it, but right before firing on Scariff, just

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to just the. To your point about

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people you know having their

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I guess their moments and the next guys, you know

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next in line is Stant is ready to fill in the void.

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you know and how. I guess

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with both, both shows, both Andor

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and also the film of. Of. Of Rogue

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One it just really reinforces just

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how you know, how expendable and just

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basically just a cog and a will that, that how

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during that the Empire treated

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their. Their sub. Their. Their. Their. Their.

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Their subjects. Not only the people,

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you know, as far as these planets, but also Just. Just

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the people, you know, the Imperial soldiers, you

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know in the bureaucracy of, of the

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>> Sarah : Yeah.

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>> Will: But what do you think about that? You know we did have a little bit of

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the Force, and more. More of the

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Force as far as this

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show. Then the you know, brief glimpse that we had

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in Rogue One. Then we, then we had an

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Andor with the Force healer. What were your impressions of that? You

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think it was the right amount? You know. Did it not make any

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difference to you one way or another? you know, especially

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Cassian's You

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know, reaction to the faith healer versus you know,

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when we. We see Kurt Kirk

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who is like you know, one of the wills who like you would you know, guarded the

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Jedi Temple there on ah. On Jeddah.

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>> Sarah : Did he have a different reaction?

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>> Will: I think he you know.

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You know that was where I was. I, I was looking

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for that and I didn't really. Yeah,

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see. Yeah, I didn't you know given how they

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sort of set that up in Andor with the. With ah

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the An episode.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, in the. In Andor Season two. Yeah, two.

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>> Will: Yeah. You know I did you know I was. I was looking for

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that with, with the In. In Rogue One and didn't really

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see it as far as the Cassian's

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reaction. I think other than I guess when they were first

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in Jetta.

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>> Sarah : Ah.

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>> Will: I mean he, he wasn't as taken

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aback by it, I guess as he was that he, you

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know, that. That his reaction was toward the faith

511
00:24:09,651 --> 00:24:12,651
healer there on the camp Yin. As far as my

512
00:24:12,651 --> 00:24:15,531
Star wars rankings, as far as films and stuff, it's still. I think it's

513
00:24:15,531 --> 00:24:18,291
still. It's still in my top, like,

514
00:24:18,291 --> 00:24:21,051
five. I, think it,

515
00:24:21,131 --> 00:24:23,891
you know, after. After season two of

516
00:24:23,891 --> 00:24:26,891
Andor, I was feeling like, you know, it. It was

517
00:24:26,891 --> 00:24:29,611
like, you know, still Empire still number one for me.

518
00:24:29,931 --> 00:24:32,491
But, But I think.

519
00:24:33,371 --> 00:24:36,211
I think I've slid New Hope back up just a little

520
00:24:36,211 --> 00:24:39,171
bit over it again. And now I think it's probably my

521
00:24:39,171 --> 00:24:40,651
third favorite of the bunch.

522
00:24:42,171 --> 00:24:44,931
>> Sarah : I think that, I would have

523
00:24:44,931 --> 00:24:47,811
gotten more out

524
00:24:47,811 --> 00:24:50,651
of it and more appreciation because, like,

525
00:24:50,731 --> 00:24:52,971
to go back to our conversation about the

526
00:24:53,611 --> 00:24:56,491
series finale of Andor, like,

527
00:24:56,491 --> 00:24:59,291
I. I did admit that I wanted to watch Rogue

528
00:24:59,291 --> 00:25:01,961
One immediately after it, which is what a

529
00:25:01,961 --> 00:25:04,921
prequel, a good prequel should do. Now, did I know?

530
00:25:04,921 --> 00:25:06,321
Because Will told me

531
00:25:07,921 --> 00:25:10,801
we were doing this, so I withheld, and

532
00:25:10,801 --> 00:25:13,431
I think that's where a, mistake was made.

533
00:25:13,671 --> 00:25:16,551
But I do think that if you're gonna watch

534
00:25:16,631 --> 00:25:19,591
Andor, like, you're gonna inevitably

535
00:25:19,591 --> 00:25:22,071
watch Rogue One, like,

536
00:25:22,311 --> 00:25:25,041
shortly after it, they go hand in hand.

537
00:25:25,041 --> 00:25:26,441
And I think that,

538
00:25:28,081 --> 00:25:30,921
And. And that's. That's good. That's good. I

539
00:25:30,921 --> 00:25:32,881
think as an isolated film,

540
00:25:33,841 --> 00:25:35,441
having seen Andor,

541
00:25:37,921 --> 00:25:40,881
it just. Again,

542
00:25:41,521 --> 00:25:44,171
you're getting. You're getting it. the

543
00:25:44,171 --> 00:25:47,171
story is so quick, and.

544
00:25:47,171 --> 00:25:50,091
And it is all about setting up this

545
00:25:50,091 --> 00:25:53,051
big event that goes on. And we all

546
00:25:53,051 --> 00:25:54,931
know how I feel about Spectacle,

547
00:25:55,921 --> 00:25:58,841
and it also. It's not a

548
00:25:58,841 --> 00:26:01,801
character piece and. Or arguably is

549
00:26:01,801 --> 00:26:04,241
more of a character piece. And then.

550
00:26:04,561 --> 00:26:06,721
But Rogue One is more about

551
00:26:07,441 --> 00:26:10,241
just retconning and making things

552
00:26:10,241 --> 00:26:10,881
right with.

553
00:26:11,761 --> 00:26:14,721
>> Will: Yeah, well, I did. I did say,

554
00:26:14,801 --> 00:26:16,561
like. I did say that. Really.

555
00:26:18,001 --> 00:26:20,641
It really. I guess if you. If. If you wanted to, like, look at it

556
00:26:20,961 --> 00:26:23,791
in the. In the sense of, like, TV series or

557
00:26:23,791 --> 00:26:26,601
whatever, just like, it's like a finale.

558
00:26:27,161 --> 00:26:29,881
It's like we did all this setup, and then,

559
00:26:29,961 --> 00:26:30,361
you know.

560
00:26:30,361 --> 00:26:33,081
>> Sarah : Yeah, it's. It's like what Stranger Things Season

561
00:26:33,161 --> 00:26:36,001
four, that that final episode will be like. It'll

562
00:26:36,001 --> 00:26:38,200
be that. That kind of finale.

563
00:26:38,761 --> 00:26:41,561
So to that extent, I do.

564
00:26:41,641 --> 00:26:44,201
I mean, I feel like I. I spent a lot of time

565
00:26:44,201 --> 00:26:47,081
berating Andor. And I will say, like,

566
00:26:48,051 --> 00:26:50,981
honestly, re. Watching Rogue One, made me,

567
00:26:50,981 --> 00:26:53,941
like, Jin a lot less as well, because

568
00:26:54,261 --> 00:26:57,181
when I say, like, I saw a lot of hypocrisy with

569
00:26:57,181 --> 00:27:00,061
Andor, I. I didn't mean in the sense that

570
00:27:00,061 --> 00:27:00,901
he was wrong.

571
00:27:03,140 --> 00:27:05,941
I Meant more like, I know more about him,

572
00:27:06,181 --> 00:27:09,141
so some of the things he's saying and doing ain't adding up.

573
00:27:09,821 --> 00:27:12,751
while with Jyn, I was like, I know the same about

574
00:27:12,831 --> 00:27:15,551
you. And, yeah, you're. You

575
00:27:15,551 --> 00:27:18,311
are like one minute poor.

576
00:27:18,391 --> 00:27:21,351
Like, she. I don't. I don't feel like

577
00:27:21,351 --> 00:27:24,311
there's any growth, which is really weird. I.

578
00:27:24,631 --> 00:27:27,631
There's so many. Like, I could probably spend an

579
00:27:27,631 --> 00:27:30,351
hour really nitpicking, but I

580
00:27:30,351 --> 00:27:32,641
won't. we'll move on. But

581
00:27:33,201 --> 00:27:35,201
yeah, like. Like I had

582
00:27:35,921 --> 00:27:38,601
again. I still remember seeing in

583
00:27:38,601 --> 00:27:41,171
theaters and that experience and

584
00:27:41,411 --> 00:27:43,931
really being all in on that

585
00:27:43,931 --> 00:27:46,771
movie. This is just time

586
00:27:46,771 --> 00:27:49,391
away. and probably just

587
00:27:49,631 --> 00:27:52,431
over consumption of Star wars

588
00:27:52,431 --> 00:27:52,991
for me.

589
00:27:55,151 --> 00:27:57,911
So. On that note, we will move

590
00:27:57,911 --> 00:28:00,671
on to the studio. Season

591
00:28:00,671 --> 00:28:03,151
one, Episode one, the promotion.

592
00:28:03,471 --> 00:28:06,261
Matt Renick is named the new head of

593
00:28:06,261 --> 00:28:09,261
Continental Studios and put in charge of a project that

594
00:28:09,261 --> 00:28:11,701
threatens public humiliation.

595
00:28:13,381 --> 00:28:16,301
So we are going to, for the next

596
00:28:16,301 --> 00:28:19,111
couple of weeks, be breaking down, the

597
00:28:19,111 --> 00:28:21,551
new show, the studio. The

598
00:28:21,871 --> 00:28:24,711
season's already over. All episodes

599
00:28:24,711 --> 00:28:27,471
have aired. but we are. So we're playing catch

600
00:28:27,471 --> 00:28:30,421
up. And, this is a

601
00:28:30,421 --> 00:28:32,621
bit out of our regular

602
00:28:33,021 --> 00:28:35,621
genre oriented film and

603
00:28:35,621 --> 00:28:37,821
TV show recaps, but,

604
00:28:38,541 --> 00:28:41,351
I've heard a lot of good things about it and Will agreed

605
00:28:41,431 --> 00:28:44,431
that maybe we should sp. Change it up just

606
00:28:44,431 --> 00:28:47,291
a little bit. because we will be getting back

607
00:28:47,291 --> 00:28:50,251
into the superhero stuff in only a few

608
00:28:50,251 --> 00:28:50,571
weeks.

609
00:28:51,211 --> 00:28:51,771
>> Will: Yeah.

610
00:28:53,611 --> 00:28:53,971
>> Will: Yeah.

611
00:28:53,971 --> 00:28:55,771
>> Sarah : And. And so.

612
00:28:56,251 --> 00:28:58,731
Hm. Okay. I. I

613
00:28:58,731 --> 00:29:00,571
enjoyed the first episode.

614
00:29:01,931 --> 00:29:03,211
A few things though.

615
00:29:03,771 --> 00:29:04,331
>> Will: Yeah.

616
00:29:04,731 --> 00:29:07,531
>> Sarah : If I'm. If I look back

617
00:29:07,531 --> 00:29:10,011
at my experience, I,

618
00:29:11,281 --> 00:29:13,981
I have to say I don't think I laughed out

619
00:29:13,981 --> 00:29:16,621
loud a single time. And this is a comedy,

620
00:29:17,501 --> 00:29:20,371
so. Take that. With what he made, there was

621
00:29:20,371 --> 00:29:23,371
just something about the humor. It's. I wasn't. I

622
00:29:23,371 --> 00:29:26,291
wasn't like annoyed or frustrated or was like.

623
00:29:26,291 --> 00:29:29,091
No, the hu. The. The

624
00:29:29,091 --> 00:29:30,771
dialogue is really fast.

625
00:29:32,131 --> 00:29:34,730
The. I was also very much

626
00:29:34,730 --> 00:29:37,411
distracted throughout the entire episode

627
00:29:37,731 --> 00:29:40,731
because. And I am, I'm kind

628
00:29:40,731 --> 00:29:43,491
of curious to hear your thoughts on this. But

629
00:29:44,081 --> 00:29:47,041
the entire episode and what I was not expecting

630
00:29:47,521 --> 00:29:48,321
the score.

631
00:29:50,401 --> 00:29:52,721
They. They played

632
00:29:53,681 --> 00:29:56,561
jazz up temple. Jazz

633
00:29:56,641 --> 00:29:59,441
music throughout the entire episode.

634
00:29:59,921 --> 00:30:02,841
There's one scene where they pulled it back and it

635
00:30:02,841 --> 00:30:05,521
turned into a piano. score.

636
00:30:06,481 --> 00:30:08,761
And. And I was. I was

637
00:30:08,761 --> 00:30:11,731
distracted because it wasn't

638
00:30:11,731 --> 00:30:14,491
like you could barely hear it. No. I

639
00:30:14,491 --> 00:30:17,451
felt like there were at times when the dialogue

640
00:30:17,451 --> 00:30:19,291
was competing with this music.

641
00:30:20,891 --> 00:30:23,371
I was like torn into two.

642
00:30:24,091 --> 00:30:26,731
But at the same time I appreciated it

643
00:30:26,971 --> 00:30:28,571
because it allowed

644
00:30:29,531 --> 00:30:32,251
momentum. And

645
00:30:32,571 --> 00:30:35,371
it's something also that

646
00:30:35,451 --> 00:30:38,091
in looking back At a lot of the things we've

647
00:30:38,091 --> 00:30:40,731
covered over the last years. Few years,

648
00:30:41,931 --> 00:30:44,331
we haven't had a lot of. Like, we've had

649
00:30:44,411 --> 00:30:47,331
scores, but they're usually played over the

650
00:30:47,331 --> 00:30:49,611
course of montages or

651
00:30:50,011 --> 00:30:52,921
like, subtly, played during a

652
00:30:52,921 --> 00:30:55,721
long pause in a scene after somebody says

653
00:30:55,721 --> 00:30:58,601
something. But this. It was just like,

654
00:31:00,721 --> 00:31:03,161
was pacing the entire episode

655
00:31:04,121 --> 00:31:07,001
as. As we watch Matt deal with this

656
00:31:07,001 --> 00:31:09,811
promotion and deal with. I, don't know.

657
00:31:10,161 --> 00:31:12,961
Kool Aid. Kool Aid.

658
00:31:13,601 --> 00:31:14,001
>> Will: So.

659
00:31:14,321 --> 00:31:16,801
>> Sarah : So I, I did it. I.

660
00:31:16,881 --> 00:31:19,721
I'm still very curious about where we're

661
00:31:19,721 --> 00:31:22,681
going with this, but honestly, it

662
00:31:22,681 --> 00:31:25,361
wasn't the humor that was, like, my big

663
00:31:25,361 --> 00:31:28,081
takeaway. It was just about the use of music

664
00:31:28,401 --> 00:31:31,161
and, and not like

665
00:31:31,161 --> 00:31:33,761
music here on the radio, but like a real

666
00:31:34,001 --> 00:31:35,601
score to

667
00:31:36,701 --> 00:31:39,581
underscore all of this. This.

668
00:31:39,821 --> 00:31:42,781
This very small show about.

669
00:31:43,261 --> 00:31:45,661
About one person trying,

670
00:31:46,461 --> 00:31:49,341
to make the movies he wants, but also

671
00:31:49,981 --> 00:31:52,861
what the studio wants, which the studio just wants to

672
00:31:53,021 --> 00:31:55,981
make a lot of money. But I don't know what were some of your

673
00:31:55,981 --> 00:31:57,341
big takeaways. Will.

674
00:31:57,421 --> 00:32:00,381
>> Will: Yeah. You know, it's funny that you. That you brought up about

675
00:32:00,381 --> 00:32:02,701
the score because I think, you know, for it.

676
00:32:03,341 --> 00:32:06,211
For me, it complimented it like, like, for. For when

677
00:32:06,211 --> 00:32:08,491
I. When I think about it, because it didn't overtake the story.

678
00:32:09,131 --> 00:32:11,981
Because sometimes, Sometimes the scores, they'll overtake things

679
00:32:11,981 --> 00:32:14,791
and, you know, and. And all. But, But

680
00:32:15,191 --> 00:32:18,071
my. It's funny. You know, I. I messaged you. I

681
00:32:18,071 --> 00:32:20,871
didn't watch the show until last night. And,

682
00:32:21,591 --> 00:32:24,551
Not because I just. Not because I wasn't interested. It was just.

683
00:32:24,551 --> 00:32:27,351
Just how. How things broke for me. But I,

684
00:32:27,351 --> 00:32:30,191
I had. So I. I did laugh out loud. I. I

685
00:32:30,191 --> 00:32:32,581
mean, there. I truly. And

686
00:32:33,141 --> 00:32:35,381
whenever I was watching the episode,

687
00:32:35,971 --> 00:32:38,891
And I know whenever it was initially released, I think

688
00:32:38,891 --> 00:32:41,171
they did episodes one and two back to back. But,

689
00:32:42,241 --> 00:32:45,121
But that being said, when I was watching it, I was like,

690
00:32:45,121 --> 00:32:47,761
oh. I was like, first of all,

691
00:32:47,921 --> 00:32:50,881
thank you for suggesting this, because this, this. This show

692
00:32:50,881 --> 00:32:53,361
seemed like it was, like, made for us,

693
00:32:54,831 --> 00:32:57,711
in a sense. And, you know, and. And even though, like

694
00:32:57,711 --> 00:33:00,591
you said, I mean, maybe the. Even if

695
00:33:00,591 --> 00:33:03,171
you didn't laugh out loud, funny. It is a dramedy.

696
00:33:04,031 --> 00:33:06,951
but. But there's definitely some humor. You know, there

697
00:33:06,951 --> 00:33:09,631
are elements in it that just. Just to me, just.

698
00:33:09,631 --> 00:33:12,501
Just really, really worked. and. And.

699
00:33:13,221 --> 00:33:16,061
And it reminded me of a

700
00:33:16,061 --> 00:33:18,711
show, that. I don't know if you've ever heard of a. Call my

701
00:33:18,711 --> 00:33:19,191
Agent.

702
00:33:19,911 --> 00:33:20,311
>> Sarah : No.

703
00:33:20,871 --> 00:33:23,431
>> Will: Yeah. So there's a show. There's a show on

704
00:33:23,511 --> 00:33:26,311
Netflix. Well, it's originally from France and

705
00:33:26,311 --> 00:33:29,311
it's now. And it's, it's. It's a global show now.

706
00:33:29,311 --> 00:33:32,231
I mean, there's like other countries spin offs

707
00:33:32,231 --> 00:33:34,561
of it, where,

708
00:33:34,991 --> 00:33:37,781
it's about, it's about a, an agency

709
00:33:38,261 --> 00:33:41,171
entertain, you know, who. People who represents, stars. So

710
00:33:41,171 --> 00:33:43,971
they've just like this show, you know, they have like,

711
00:33:43,971 --> 00:33:46,971
who is. They have the, it's the.

712
00:33:46,971 --> 00:33:49,171
It actor or actress, director,

713
00:33:49,981 --> 00:33:52,301
you know, in the entertainment industry in France.

714
00:33:53,261 --> 00:33:56,261
And, and so when I was watching this, watching the

715
00:33:56,261 --> 00:33:59,181
studio also reminded me

716
00:33:59,741 --> 00:34:02,611
of that show. but this, but this time

717
00:34:02,611 --> 00:34:05,131
it was on the studio side as far as the

718
00:34:05,131 --> 00:34:08,131
executives who are green lighting projects and, and all

719
00:34:08,131 --> 00:34:10,931
that. So I, you know, so I

720
00:34:10,931 --> 00:34:13,651
was. So once, once I, Once it started,

721
00:34:13,731 --> 00:34:16,691
I was already kind of predisposed to like liking this.

722
00:34:17,131 --> 00:34:19,841
And, and so whenever, whenever I started

723
00:34:19,841 --> 00:34:22,761
watching it, I will say whenever, whenever

724
00:34:22,761 --> 00:34:25,721
it began and we saw it didn't start

725
00:34:25,721 --> 00:34:28,711
how I expected it to, with the whole, with the whole Will Polk

726
00:34:28,711 --> 00:34:31,671
Dano, like, action movie scene, the scene

727
00:34:31,671 --> 00:34:34,351
there with the fighting and all that kind of stuff. I mean,

728
00:34:35,151 --> 00:34:37,951
I like the way it started because it was just like a guy.

729
00:34:38,511 --> 00:34:41,511
It really. Since it is a studio and it really was the

730
00:34:41,511 --> 00:34:43,631
production aspects of it. It just.

731
00:34:44,931 --> 00:34:47,731
I was like, oh, okay, we got this. You know,

732
00:34:47,731 --> 00:34:50,571
we got this. And then, you know, I also love how like Seth

733
00:34:50,571 --> 00:34:53,571
Rogen, you know, Matt Remnick, his character was just

734
00:34:53,571 --> 00:34:56,331
like rolling up there, trying to give notes, and Peter

735
00:34:56,331 --> 00:34:59,291
Berg was just like, no, no, no. You know, and they were just kind

736
00:34:59,291 --> 00:35:02,291
of blowing him off. So. So for me, it was

737
00:35:02,291 --> 00:35:05,251
just like. Is it. It started

738
00:35:05,251 --> 00:35:07,811
off, you know, in a way, I was like, oh, yeah,

739
00:35:07,971 --> 00:35:08,931
I'm gonna like this.

740
00:35:13,181 --> 00:35:16,021
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. What. So

741
00:35:16,021 --> 00:35:18,581
speaking about that opening, there's a tie in

742
00:35:18,901 --> 00:35:21,701
when he goes to talk to Patty, who he

743
00:35:21,701 --> 00:35:24,620
replaced. And Patty is played by Catherine

744
00:35:24,620 --> 00:35:27,501
o' Hara, who apparently we're

745
00:35:27,501 --> 00:35:30,501
just Catherine o' Hara Summer because we just had her in

746
00:35:30,501 --> 00:35:32,821
Last of Us and now we're getting her as Patty.

747
00:35:33,221 --> 00:35:36,161
Yeah. So

748
00:35:36,161 --> 00:35:39,001
it's great. I love that tie in. And I mean,

749
00:35:39,001 --> 00:35:41,691
Katherine Han, I, is also in this,

750
00:35:41,851 --> 00:35:44,841
AKA Agatha. I. And

751
00:35:44,841 --> 00:35:47,681
I. Maybe that was something that,

752
00:35:48,401 --> 00:35:51,161
if I'm being honest, I love Katherine Han for

753
00:35:51,161 --> 00:35:53,441
some reason. And. And

754
00:35:54,241 --> 00:35:57,241
Agatha was last summer. So you would think I

755
00:35:57,241 --> 00:36:00,241
would be like, somewhat over it. But I

756
00:36:00,241 --> 00:36:02,481
think she. I like, I cannot.

757
00:36:02,881 --> 00:36:05,561
She. I will always relate her to

758
00:36:05,561 --> 00:36:06,321
Agatha.

759
00:36:08,321 --> 00:36:11,161
Like, like, for me, I was

760
00:36:11,161 --> 00:36:14,041
just like, girl, you're trying too hard in the

761
00:36:14,041 --> 00:36:16,801
show. You're not working for me.

762
00:36:17,121 --> 00:36:19,991
>> Will: Oh, she totally. I think her character's name is Maya. I

763
00:36:19,991 --> 00:36:22,951
think, yeah, totally worked for

764
00:36:22,951 --> 00:36:25,791
me. I was just, like, digging it. It just like, reminded me of,

765
00:36:25,791 --> 00:36:28,561
like, why Katherine Hahn is just so, This is such an

766
00:36:28,561 --> 00:36:31,531
amazing performer. because I, I didn't.

767
00:36:32,331 --> 00:36:34,891
I. I hear what you're saying. I think, you know, for about

768
00:36:35,131 --> 00:36:38,091
maybe the first couple moments there,

769
00:36:38,091 --> 00:36:40,491
yeah, it was like, okay, I had to reorient myself.

770
00:36:40,971 --> 00:36:43,971
But. But once we really got into it, especially when they

771
00:36:43,971 --> 00:36:46,971
came up. When she came up with the promo that they were going

772
00:36:46,971 --> 00:36:49,711
to like, show, the. The

773
00:36:49,711 --> 00:36:52,111
studio, the press, the CEO.

774
00:36:52,511 --> 00:36:55,371
Yeah, yeah. Brian Cancer's character, CR's character.

775
00:36:55,371 --> 00:36:58,241
I was like, oh, yeah. yeah. I mean, all of that

776
00:36:58,241 --> 00:37:01,201
and just also, just the whole scene with the whole bit where they're, like, trying

777
00:37:01,201 --> 00:37:04,201
to like, make it, you know, even. Even with Seth Rogen's

778
00:37:04,201 --> 00:37:07,081
character was just like, you know, seeing the promo at first and trying to,

779
00:37:07,081 --> 00:37:09,481
like, try to figure out how this.

780
00:37:10,441 --> 00:37:13,361
How that. That promo, you know,

781
00:37:13,361 --> 00:37:16,161
because he's, you know, it's that tension of trying to

782
00:37:16,161 --> 00:37:18,201
be, you know, trying to, like,

783
00:37:19,001 --> 00:37:21,891
make. Be an Al tour and make these, like,

784
00:37:21,891 --> 00:37:24,691
you know, films that are, you know, you know,

785
00:37:24,771 --> 00:37:26,771
movies versus film, you know,

786
00:37:27,731 --> 00:37:29,811
and, you know, trying to make these things.

787
00:37:30,531 --> 00:37:33,491
I, you know, I. I thought she really, really sold,

788
00:37:33,651 --> 00:37:36,651
you know, to me, she really sold it as far as being that marketing

789
00:37:36,651 --> 00:37:39,491
person. And whenever they were having the back and forth as far as

790
00:37:39,491 --> 00:37:42,131
just like, you know, you know, whatever.

791
00:37:42,451 --> 00:37:45,451
The back and forth about whether or not this is

792
00:37:45,451 --> 00:37:48,411
going to work or not. As far as how do you. How do you. How do you. How do

793
00:37:48,411 --> 00:37:51,251
you market Steve Busimi and then how they could even.

794
00:37:51,871 --> 00:37:54,271
And even trying to figure out.

795
00:37:54,831 --> 00:37:57,551
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, that. That stuff. Stuff is

796
00:37:57,551 --> 00:38:00,391
good because they did say a lot

797
00:38:00,391 --> 00:38:02,841
of stuff that, audience educated

798
00:38:03,081 --> 00:38:05,241
audience members usually

799
00:38:05,881 --> 00:38:08,761
want to say. Like, like.

800
00:38:08,841 --> 00:38:11,001
And. And all these are all

801
00:38:11,241 --> 00:38:13,481
factors, like the mechanics,

802
00:38:14,051 --> 00:38:17,051
of getting a film not made,

803
00:38:17,051 --> 00:38:20,031
but even greenlit, and

804
00:38:20,351 --> 00:38:23,351
trying to think about, like, okay, you're. This

805
00:38:23,351 --> 00:38:26,151
is a product at the end of the day, and you're trying

806
00:38:26,151 --> 00:38:28,991
to sell it to an audience. So,

807
00:38:29,151 --> 00:38:31,591
yeah, you may want a. An

808
00:38:31,591 --> 00:38:34,421
actor who, is quote,

809
00:38:34,421 --> 00:38:37,261
unquote, well known to like,

810
00:38:37,261 --> 00:38:39,981
a niche group, but that won't sell a

811
00:38:39,981 --> 00:38:42,941
movie. I mean, we always talk about movie stars, granted,

812
00:38:42,941 --> 00:38:45,411
movie stars. There's also the current

813
00:38:45,411 --> 00:38:48,171
conversation that movie stars are dead. And

814
00:38:48,171 --> 00:38:50,851
like, it's more about the IP

815
00:38:51,011 --> 00:38:53,931
and the franchise, which they get into the

816
00:38:53,931 --> 00:38:56,551
IP and, And the. The other

817
00:38:56,551 --> 00:38:59,431
ongoing bit is this whole discussion about

818
00:38:59,591 --> 00:39:02,351
like Barbie making a ton of

819
00:39:02,351 --> 00:39:04,951
money and. But. But

820
00:39:04,951 --> 00:39:07,911
Barbie also, like, there's a lot of

821
00:39:07,911 --> 00:39:10,561
factors into it and it's not just

822
00:39:10,561 --> 00:39:13,201
because, like, of Greta Gerwig,

823
00:39:13,521 --> 00:39:16,481
like, I didn't really buy into that point that

824
00:39:16,481 --> 00:39:19,401
Matt made. Like, and it's not

825
00:39:19,401 --> 00:39:22,321
because of Margot Robbie or Ryan Gosling.

826
00:39:22,481 --> 00:39:25,361
It's. It's because it.

827
00:39:25,761 --> 00:39:28,761
It's. I still have yet to see the movie, but from

828
00:39:28,761 --> 00:39:31,521
what I understand, it's a good movie. A, it is.

829
00:39:31,761 --> 00:39:32,641
>> Will: Yep. It is.

830
00:39:33,441 --> 00:39:36,281
>> Sarah : So. So B, it also. Because

831
00:39:36,281 --> 00:39:39,001
it's about a doll. It's marketed to

832
00:39:39,001 --> 00:39:41,241
children, but it's also for the parents.

833
00:39:42,601 --> 00:39:45,161
Like, and it came out right to.

834
00:39:45,401 --> 00:39:48,281
And it came out as Connor counter programming

835
00:39:48,281 --> 00:39:51,161
for Oppenheimer and then you had Barbenheimer.

836
00:39:51,561 --> 00:39:54,481
So like, there were so many factors. And

837
00:39:54,481 --> 00:39:57,201
so I'm curious to see how much they

838
00:39:57,201 --> 00:40:00,121
continue down that. All of that,

839
00:40:00,121 --> 00:40:02,281
like, that was a once in a lifetime.

840
00:40:03,131 --> 00:40:05,931
but hearing the pitches about Kool Aid,

841
00:40:06,881 --> 00:40:09,601
and you get your Jamestown version,

842
00:40:10,061 --> 00:40:12,601
the Martin Scorsese evil

843
00:40:12,681 --> 00:40:15,561
dark version, and then you get like

844
00:40:15,641 --> 00:40:18,421
the. The the other version

845
00:40:18,421 --> 00:40:20,941
from Nic Fuller. And.

846
00:40:21,181 --> 00:40:23,741
And it's just. It's just like,

847
00:40:23,741 --> 00:40:26,581
yeah, yeah, this makes sense. This adds up.

848
00:40:26,581 --> 00:40:29,561
And I think. I think the. That

849
00:40:29,561 --> 00:40:32,561
what really has this show going for it and probably why

850
00:40:32,561 --> 00:40:35,441
a lot of people first looked into it

851
00:40:35,441 --> 00:40:37,681
and got hooked is

852
00:40:37,761 --> 00:40:40,681
authenticity. Like. Like Seth

853
00:40:40,681 --> 00:40:43,521
Rogen's behind it. He's been in the game for a while,

854
00:40:44,571 --> 00:40:47,451
like wearing multiple hats, so

855
00:40:47,611 --> 00:40:50,491
he A, has access to a lot of people

856
00:40:51,211 --> 00:40:53,851
already flaunting it. And B,

857
00:40:54,901 --> 00:40:57,741
you know that he's gonna come at

858
00:40:57,741 --> 00:41:00,261
it from a very authentic place.

859
00:41:01,181 --> 00:41:04,081
and so. And so it'll. It'll. I, ah.

860
00:41:04,811 --> 00:41:07,611
Like know

861
00:41:07,611 --> 00:41:10,531
the humor for whatever reason did not hit for

862
00:41:10,531 --> 00:41:13,531
me in this one episode, but the story

863
00:41:13,611 --> 00:41:16,571
overall again has me very interested

864
00:41:16,571 --> 00:41:18,731
and curious. And I think there's

865
00:41:20,021 --> 00:41:23,021
that. It's. It's also a

866
00:41:23,021 --> 00:41:25,061
fresh breath, fresh air.

867
00:41:25,541 --> 00:41:28,341
Yeah, I mean, I mean this

868
00:41:28,341 --> 00:41:31,301
isn't a show where I'm gonna sit here and break down

869
00:41:31,381 --> 00:41:34,301
every single scene and Easter egg and all of that,

870
00:41:34,301 --> 00:41:37,301
because it's not that kind of show. It's much more

871
00:41:37,301 --> 00:41:39,861
of like a bear where we're gonna get a few

872
00:41:39,861 --> 00:41:42,461
episodes and go over like a character

873
00:41:42,461 --> 00:41:45,251
arc, one or two depending on what

874
00:41:45,251 --> 00:41:48,071
happens. But it's. It's also not

875
00:41:48,071 --> 00:41:50,711
layered in mythology and

876
00:41:51,031 --> 00:41:53,781
and stuff, that.

877
00:41:53,861 --> 00:41:56,651
That are. Is in other shows.

878
00:41:56,651 --> 00:41:57,011
But.

879
00:41:57,811 --> 00:42:00,771
>> Will: Yeah, no, I completely agree. I think that's part. I think,

880
00:42:01,011 --> 00:42:03,771
you know, after. After

881
00:42:03,771 --> 00:42:06,561
coming off, the Last of Us And. Andor.

882
00:42:06,561 --> 00:42:09,441
And, you know, even, you know, and also before that,

883
00:42:09,441 --> 00:42:12,261
we had Daredevil. So we've just had,

884
00:42:12,641 --> 00:42:15,521
I think so far this year, we've

885
00:42:15,521 --> 00:42:18,121
had two shows that are not. That are

886
00:42:18,121 --> 00:42:19,961
truly, like, original

887
00:42:20,681 --> 00:42:23,241
stories or original, like, you know, original

888
00:42:23,721 --> 00:42:26,521
type things. Paradise and now

889
00:42:26,761 --> 00:42:29,521
the studio. And I think they're. And this

890
00:42:29,521 --> 00:42:31,721
is why I always. I.

891
00:42:33,961 --> 00:42:34,841
And I will give

892
00:42:36,871 --> 00:42:39,871
proper hat tip to you for suggesting that we

893
00:42:39,871 --> 00:42:42,791
do these things, because I think it is a nice palette

894
00:42:42,791 --> 00:42:45,341
cleanser from, from the.

895
00:42:45,501 --> 00:42:48,301
The IP driven, you know, content

896
00:42:48,301 --> 00:42:51,261
that's out there. Because. Yeah, because, I mean,

897
00:42:51,261 --> 00:42:54,261
you know, because watching this show, it's just like, oh, yeah, you

898
00:42:54,261 --> 00:42:56,861
know, because. Not, you know, clearly,

899
00:42:58,301 --> 00:43:00,151
because we have, you know, Our

900
00:43:00,951 --> 00:43:03,671
primary focus here on the pod is the big

901
00:43:03,671 --> 00:43:06,591
IP driven kind of things. And so to

902
00:43:06,591 --> 00:43:07,511
have this satire

903
00:43:09,511 --> 00:43:12,511
come after, you know, just back to. Back to, Back to

904
00:43:12,511 --> 00:43:15,391
back of, Of. Of the big ip, I was

905
00:43:15,391 --> 00:43:18,391
like, this is a real palate cleanser. And I just, like, I just, I just really

906
00:43:18,391 --> 00:43:21,031
enjoyed it. And just seeing that discuss, you know, seeing that

907
00:43:21,111 --> 00:43:24,031
tension that, that, you

908
00:43:24,031 --> 00:43:26,391
know, Matt Remnick has about,

909
00:43:27,771 --> 00:43:30,331
you know, wanting to, like,

910
00:43:31,131 --> 00:43:33,211
have true art

911
00:43:33,851 --> 00:43:36,771
versus the, the popcorn, you know,

912
00:43:36,771 --> 00:43:39,691
thing that, you know, the Kool Aid store, you know, the Kool Aid, you

913
00:43:39,691 --> 00:43:42,371
know, just get butts and seats and, you know, I'll spend

914
00:43:42,371 --> 00:43:44,971
$10 million, you know, to get our.

915
00:43:45,611 --> 00:43:48,011
That was the other funny thing too, was just like,

916
00:43:48,491 --> 00:43:51,341
oh, he was just trying to use this. Literally making

917
00:43:51,341 --> 00:43:54,141
it up, this as he went along. Just like, you

918
00:43:54,141 --> 00:43:56,981
know, we spent $10 million to buy sores

919
00:43:57,301 --> 00:44:00,101
script. And then he's like, yeah, I bought it to,

920
00:44:00,101 --> 00:44:02,101
like, to kill it. And it really.

921
00:44:02,581 --> 00:44:05,301
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, it was, it was a very smart

922
00:44:05,301 --> 00:44:07,861
way to get the character out of that situation.

923
00:44:08,431 --> 00:44:11,111
yeah, it's very well written, but

924
00:44:11,111 --> 00:44:13,791
I. So I don't

925
00:44:13,791 --> 00:44:16,791
think now I haven't seen

926
00:44:16,791 --> 00:44:19,701
enough of this show to know for sure. But

927
00:44:19,941 --> 00:44:22,821
I don't. I don't necessarily think that

928
00:44:25,461 --> 00:44:28,341
he wants to be an auteur. Like,

929
00:44:28,821 --> 00:44:31,781
I think that he just wants to make good movies.

930
00:44:33,621 --> 00:44:36,101
Like, I just

931
00:44:36,261 --> 00:44:39,261
feel like from what we

932
00:44:39,261 --> 00:44:41,861
saw and the way it's spoken about

933
00:44:42,661 --> 00:44:43,381
is that

934
00:44:45,471 --> 00:44:45,711
you.

935
00:44:48,431 --> 00:44:51,221
I, I, I think, because he's also a

936
00:44:51,221 --> 00:44:53,981
studio person, so he's not behind the camera.

937
00:44:54,461 --> 00:44:57,141
He's not, he's not in front of the

938
00:44:57,141 --> 00:45:00,061
camera as an actor, so. And they always

939
00:45:00,140 --> 00:45:02,621
talk about. Actors and directors always talk about

940
00:45:02,941 --> 00:45:05,421
story, storytelling and wanting to.

941
00:45:05,901 --> 00:45:08,141
So I just feel like

942
00:45:08,461 --> 00:45:10,861
Matt and the way they've introduced

943
00:45:11,281 --> 00:45:14,281
the studio to us, like, they're

944
00:45:14,281 --> 00:45:16,721
in the business of making movies now.

945
00:45:17,121 --> 00:45:20,081
What grits greenlit, like what movies get.

946
00:45:20,241 --> 00:45:22,641
Get made. That. That's the big

947
00:45:22,801 --> 00:45:25,761
concept that's getting brought. Like, it all

948
00:45:25,761 --> 00:45:28,681
falls on him. Decide to decide what gets made and

949
00:45:28,681 --> 00:45:31,521
what doesn't like. And so

950
00:45:31,921 --> 00:45:34,681
then we're presented with this IP and it's like,

951
00:45:34,681 --> 00:45:37,281
okay, you got to build a story and then you got these

952
00:45:37,561 --> 00:45:40,441
two different versions going on in very

953
00:45:40,441 --> 00:45:43,001
unexpected ways. So

954
00:45:43,401 --> 00:45:46,241
I don't even know if it's a conversation yet

955
00:45:46,241 --> 00:45:49,161
fully about, like, IP

956
00:45:49,721 --> 00:45:52,281
versus versus original

957
00:45:52,281 --> 00:45:54,681
storytelling because arguably Martin

958
00:45:54,681 --> 00:45:57,321
Scorsese's wasn't even original because that's about

959
00:45:57,561 --> 00:45:59,961
an. An actual event that did happen.

960
00:46:00,281 --> 00:46:02,761
Like, and probably have had several

961
00:46:02,761 --> 00:46:05,601
iterations already done before, but this is a brand

962
00:46:05,601 --> 00:46:08,561
new retelling, blah, blah, blah. And so.

963
00:46:09,041 --> 00:46:11,441
And just because of all of that,

964
00:46:12,091 --> 00:46:14,791
just because something's original doesn't mean it's good.

965
00:46:15,111 --> 00:46:18,071
And, and what? Earlier this year, we were talking about

966
00:46:18,231 --> 00:46:21,231
your friendly neighborhood spider man, and we were just

967
00:46:21,231 --> 00:46:24,071
like, this isn't original. But it feels

968
00:46:24,071 --> 00:46:24,791
so refreshing.

969
00:46:25,351 --> 00:46:27,031
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

970
00:46:27,111 --> 00:46:29,111
>> Sarah : Like, it's, it's so

971
00:46:29,831 --> 00:46:32,671
right now, given everything that

972
00:46:32,671 --> 00:46:35,121
has happened in terms of sports, specifically

973
00:46:35,281 --> 00:46:38,041
comic book movies and TV shows and

974
00:46:38,041 --> 00:46:40,241
franchises and those known ips,

975
00:46:41,441 --> 00:46:42,721
this explosion.

976
00:46:45,521 --> 00:46:48,521
It's an, it's an interesting conversation because I don't,

977
00:46:48,521 --> 00:46:51,521
I don't feel like a

978
00:46:51,521 --> 00:46:53,921
good movie and a,

979
00:46:54,721 --> 00:46:57,641
A, an IP are mutually exclusive.

980
00:46:58,281 --> 00:47:01,241
Like, there are a lot of good movies that are based on

981
00:47:01,241 --> 00:47:03,991
IP are not original.

982
00:47:04,551 --> 00:47:07,391
But there is something to be

983
00:47:07,391 --> 00:47:09,991
said for how that is,

984
00:47:10,551 --> 00:47:12,791
is drenching the marketplace and

985
00:47:12,871 --> 00:47:15,791
allowing fewer original ideas

986
00:47:15,791 --> 00:47:18,311
to get made less and less. Like,

987
00:47:18,631 --> 00:47:20,711
I wonder if this,

988
00:47:21,271 --> 00:47:23,031
this show will go into

989
00:47:24,151 --> 00:47:27,031
the romantic comedy area because

990
00:47:27,551 --> 00:47:30,281
I, There is a subtle conversation

991
00:47:30,281 --> 00:47:33,001
going on right now about how, like,

992
00:47:33,401 --> 00:47:36,121
romantic comedies are few and far between, but

993
00:47:36,361 --> 00:47:39,321
like 10, 15 years ago, it

994
00:47:39,321 --> 00:47:42,241
was like every other week a new one was coming out and

995
00:47:42,241 --> 00:47:44,921
it was like a. Mechanisms before

996
00:47:45,001 --> 00:47:45,801
McConnas.

997
00:47:49,081 --> 00:47:52,081
>> Will: Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You know, as we,

998
00:47:52,081 --> 00:47:54,941
as we, as we dive deeper into the. I guess

999
00:47:54,941 --> 00:47:57,651
it's ten episodes. yeah, first

1000
00:47:57,651 --> 00:48:00,621
season has. I, I'm hopeful that we will, we will

1001
00:48:00,621 --> 00:48:03,581
get. Get that. Because, I mean, I think even Matt,

1002
00:48:03,581 --> 00:48:06,531
to your point, I think even Matt, Seth, Rogen's character even made

1003
00:48:06,531 --> 00:48:09,211
that point. It's just like, you know, you can, you can

1004
00:48:09,531 --> 00:48:12,531
have block, you know, you can have good films. And I, you know, they're

1005
00:48:12,531 --> 00:48:13,691
not mutually exclusive.

1006
00:48:13,831 --> 00:48:15,181
>> Sarah : no, no.

1007
00:48:15,261 --> 00:48:18,261
>> Will: And so I think that's what he was. I think that's the tension that, like you said,

1008
00:48:18,261 --> 00:48:20,781
oh yeah, maybe I was. When I was, when I was saying

1009
00:48:20,781 --> 00:48:23,391
I'm. He was, you know, he was, you know, he,

1010
00:48:24,111 --> 00:48:27,031
whenever he was, you know, trying to

1011
00:48:27,031 --> 00:48:29,791
shoehorn his vision of like. Yeah, making

1012
00:48:29,791 --> 00:48:32,551
good films. But also I gotta make a

1013
00:48:32,551 --> 00:48:35,551
shitload of money to keep my job. Otherwise I'm end up like Patty.

1014
00:48:35,711 --> 00:48:38,710
You know, when he fell upon Scorsese, he was trying to like, you

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know, that's what I thought was so well, why this

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pilot was just so well written

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to really, you know, hit that point of what we were just talking about

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here. It's like you can have a good film, but I

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can also, you know, but I can also, you

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know, just because it's artsy fartsy doesn't necessarily mean

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it has to be, you know, you know, you know,

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go, go broke. I mean it could all, you know, you can have a great film

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and it can also be based off the Kool Aid, which

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I thought that was just like, you know. Oh

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yeah, you know, so.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So for the next

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two weeks we will be doing

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neck, three episodes each week.

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and then we're gonna go back to one offs as

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Ironheart will begin at the end of this month.

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So, and, and just for warning to our

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listeners, we are entering when

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Ironheart begins our schedule will be very

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chaotic. We will be jumping

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around from Tuesday nights to Thursday nights

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to a Wednesday night, back to a Thursday night.

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So, so just, just forewarning,

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and bear with us as we try to hit

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everything as freshly as possible because

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we got two giant movies also in

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July as we're trying

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to wrap up, a few different shows.

1043
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so, so stay tuned. But for, for the

1044
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next two weeks at least we're going to be talking about the story

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studio, and we hope you,

1046
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you are along for the ride. So on that note, Will,

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why don't you tell our listeners where they can find you?

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>> Will: Yes, you can find me on all the socials at

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Will and Polk, W I L L M P O

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L.

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>> Sarah : K. And you can find me there too at SJ Belmont

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sjblmnt. Please follow our crew on Twitter

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Geek out. You're welcome.