The Boys S5E6 Homelander BREAKS + Daredevil Born Again + We Saw Mandalorian & Grogu EARLY!

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Unknown Speaker (0:40): host, Sarah Belmont, and with me as always is our mister producer, Will Polk. How are you doing tonight, Will?

Unknown Speaker (0:45): Doing very well, Sarah. Hope you're doing well this Thursday evening.

Sarah Belmont (0:48): I'm doing fine in May. It's May. And at the May, we're gonna start some movies for the summer. And you've already seen some minutes from the first movie on our docket.

Will Polk (1:04): Yeah. Yeah. So, of course, this past Monday was was Star Wars Day, and, I did get an opportunity to go check out the the sneak preview that they had for for the Mandalorian and Grogu. And, yeah, it was pretty cool. I actually got this, like it was like this really cool poster, yeah, for for our audio listeners.

Will Polk (1:28): Let's see if I can get it. Like, There we go. Yeah. I got this really cool poster that they were handing out at the event and also got to see the first 20 I guess about twenty two to twenty three minutes or so of the of the of the start of the film. It is the actual start.

Will Polk (1:47): And I I I did just quick impressions as I as I left the the theater, walking through my neighborhood and stuff. But but, you know, I have to say, I I, you know, I was kinda, you know, was wondering how well it was gonna be. And and, you know, and also just after the third season of Mandalorian, I was like, yeah, I'm I'm not sure how I'm I'm feeling about the about this show. But or, you know, will the will the film feel like just the Disney plus experience on steroids? And I have to say, it didn't.

Will Polk (2:22): I I I really enjoyed what they had that they showed. If you've seen some of the trailers, there is footage that what that that was that's been in the trailers, that, did show up in the first bit of the film, some of the the scenes with the and stuff. But there were some things that were that that have I have not seen. And then and, you know, it felt it did definitely feel cinematic. And yeah.

Will Polk (2:55): And it was one of those things where we were about probably halfway through the first act. And whenever it got to the place where where it ended, I was like, dang it. I was I was like, I'm I'm kinda I'm kinda engaged now. It was I hated it. I had hated that they ended it.

Will Polk (3:11): But but, yeah, you know, it'll it'll be here in a couple of weeks. I'm glad I got the opportunity to see it. You know, definitely see it on IMAX. It it definitely there was a one of the cool things about the the sneak preview, there was a welcome from from John Fabro at the at the beginning, and he he just welcomed up, you know, folks to the theater and, you know, noted how they shot this film at IMAX and, you know, how it should be seen and and that kind of thing. So that was that was really cool.

Will Polk (3:42): No no Dave Filoni showing up at my theater, but, you know, what can you say? But but there was that. And then really truly was the start of the film, the Lucasfilm Limited popped up, and I don't think it this is not a spoiler. I think I read this out there. It's out in the public domain that there there is a title, you know, the scroll is there.

Will Polk (4:08): And yeah. And then, you know, it was and the other really cool thing is as far as opening credits, of course, Pedro does get his do start of top billing, but Brendan Wayne and Latif Crowder, did do the bodywork for Fernando, also get get billing top billing in the in the film as well. So those are really some of the cool things about it. And, yeah, it's just I'm I'm looking forward to it.

Sarah Belmont (4:36): That's good. That's good. And simultaneously, unbeknownst to everyone, the bear dropped a prequel one hour special called Gary as the first official step towards marketing of their fifth and final season, which will premiere at the end of this month. And and unlike in past seasons, they're also dropping two episodes on the premiere day and then going to air weekly episodes leading up to the final. So I have not watched the prequel special yet.

Sarah Belmont (5:16): But, I just I think it's interesting because in the back of my mind, I was like, I'm pretty sure they filmed the the fifth season, and and we're gonna get it this year. And it's we're getting closer to June. And I'm like, why have I not seen any advertising for the Yeah. For the new season? So and then next thing I know, I see a random TikTok, and somebody's like, you know, they released a one hour bear episode?

Sarah Belmont (5:44): And I'm like, what going on?

Will Polk (5:46): Yeah. Totally. Yeah. You know, I was I saw saw a blur, but I was, like, scrolling on Twitter, that they had dropped this one hour prequel, Gary, that has, John Barathol and, Ibn Battmassarot as far as, with Richie. And so, yeah, it dropped, I guess, Tuesday.

Will Polk (6:12): And and then, of course, Wednesday, they did announce that the, fifth and final season's coming, and, you know, all eight episodes are gonna be dropping on Hulu on the twenty fifth. And then, as you noted, the the FX will have the cable release, and we'll have the two

Sarah Belmont (6:29): Okay. So that's what that's what confused me. So Hulu, it's gonna be the traditional all eight episodes at once. Then FX, if you watch on cable, which if you do, you're still living in the nineteen hundreds, just FYI. And FX is going to Okay.

Sarah Belmont (6:48): So I didn't understand that because when I read your tweet about it, I was thinking to myself, does Will know that that's a contradictory statement?

Unknown Speaker (6:59): No. No. No.

Sarah Belmont (7:00): It's Because I didn't I didn't see FX in there. Like, it's a separate thing. So I I think it's just confusing in this day and age because because of streaming services.

Unknown Speaker (7:15): Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (7:16): And and, how people now it's either one or the other where you either are tapped into all the streaming services or you're still a cable person.

Will Polk (7:28): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When I because actually when I because when I read the story, I think I I linked to the Hollywood Reporter's Mhmm. Story about about the release.

Will Polk (7:40): And it it threw me for a loop too because at first, I was like, okay. We're got we understood the eight. And then at first, I was like, they're going to it was I I misread it. I was like, oh, they're dropping all the first episode is coming on on FX. But then I I misread it to be, like, two episodes per week, but then I went back and read it again.

Will Polk (8:00): I was like, no. No. No. They're dropping the first two episodes of the season also on June 25 and then or the twenty sixth. And then they'll have the weekly release throughout the rest of the summer.

Will Polk (8:11): So so that yeah. So for folks you know, and and and some folks may not have Hulu. So, you know, some people do watch FX maybe on YouTube TV and stuff. So, you know, so they're you know, so whatever platform you get, if you don't have Hulu or the Disney plus bundle, then, you know, the the that's you you watch it on FX, and you just we'll have to just watch it weekly. Or or do like a lot of people do, just wait till the end of the season and then just binge it all then.

Will Polk (8:40): But, yeah, I mean, that you know, the thing about the bear is there's always those intense episodes. I just can't bench that show.

Unknown Speaker (8:46): I feel like you did a decent job last time.

Will Polk (8:49): Yeah. But I broke I still it was it wasn't like I broke it up over, like, maybe a a few days. It wasn't like back to back to back. Yeah. Because after, yeah, after that mid, you know, that midseason, like, intense episode, it's just like, okay.

Will Polk (9:01): I'm good for today. No more. No more. I I just I'll pick it up next tomorrow.

Sarah Belmont (9:05): I love I'm completely polar opposite. I love to binge the bear. Yeah. But but then again, I have binged a season of the pit. So Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (9:15): True. And and I will tell you, there is watching weekly episodes of the pit, and then there is binging of the pit. And even the actors who are on the pit say, people shouldn't binge it. Yeah. Like, that's that's signing up.

Sarah Belmont (9:31): Yeah. I think but which is ironic considering in an interview, Noah Wiley did go on record and saying, if there was any show that would cross over with the pit it would be the bear.

Unknown Speaker (9:44): Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (9:45): Yeah just given the circumstances and the intensity level. But you can at least I mean, do we have your sign off on at least bingeing season three of the bear?

Unknown Speaker (9:57): Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead.

Sarah Belmont (9:58): Yeah. Because that's that's not that's not like the other seasons in any way. Yeah. And I would argue season one, but whatever. K.

Sarah Belmont (10:09): Now the shows that we are still watching because some news came out about the boys finale, which will be shown in theaters on May in four d, which I am not gonna see in four d. I don't even think my my theater would offer four d viewing.

Will Polk (10:27): Yeah. So Yeah. I you know, the I looked for theaters in my area here in Central North Carolina as far as the Raleigh Durham area, and it's not it's not showing. At first, I thought it was like it was just like the Star Wars thing. It was just sold out.

Will Polk (10:45): But Mhmm. There's there's only I think there's one theater in Charlotte that is regal that does have the four d screen. And, of course, the tickets are sold out. So but yeah. But for folks, if you if you, do have a four d theater, whether it's Regal or AMC or whatever in your area, they're not charged admission for the, boys finale.

Will Polk (11:12): But but as far as as far as you buy the ticket, but I think you you do need to there, I guess, they're backdoor charging, where you buy a concession stand voucher. It's like a $30 voucher for so, you know, so you'll pay for pay for that, and then and you'll you'll be able to to watch it. But, yeah, I'll just have to wait till the the to to Wednesday like everybody else, unless they unless they just add some screens to to, you know, in a different format, but we'll see.

Sarah Belmont (11:48): Yeah. Yeah. We we shall see. Great. Great.

Sarah Belmont (11:52): Again, great advertising considering this week's episode of The Boys season five episode six, Though the Heavens May Fall. The IMDb summary reads, available now exclusively at VMC Theaters. Get the new deep popcorn bucket for only 32.99. So the fact that that news came out ran on the heels of this episode, which features a brand new soup or yeah, he's a soup. I still don't know what his powers are, but unless I miss something.

Sarah Belmont (12:28): But the legend is a soup, but he's working at a movie theater. And we get introduced to VM theaters, which has I'm surprised it's taken us this long considering all of the all of the other like, the fact that these heroes are movie stars has been at the forefront of this show for so long. Yeah. And I guess a a starting note for me would be about this episode would just be that I know we're at episode six, and I know we got two more episodes to go, but I do think that at this point, I'm pretty sure that the way they are ending this show is going to be viewed as a really perfect bookend for this show considering I feel like the writing and the storytelling occurring this season thus far is on par with how I felt about this world when we were first introduced to it in the first season.

Unknown Speaker (13:44): Yeah. Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (13:46): Because this episode, unlike last week, it wasn't structured around. I know this is a dirty word, but I'm going to say it anymore. A gimmick. It was very simple storytelling. We had a lot going on.

Sarah Belmont (14:03): We had all of these different things yet it didn't feel like a bad guy of the week and it also didn't feel like dialogue was being exchanged for no reason. So that's what overall really stuck out to me because even though it can feel a little jam packed I still didn't mind jumping around to everything because we are closing in on the end here So they only have so much more time with these characters and to really explore things. And simultaneously, they they took some angles to the heart of the season that I was not expecting. So on that note, I'll hand it over to you.

Will Polk (14:51): Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you. Overall thoughts were pretty much very similar. You know, now that I think about I'm not sure if the legends is is a super nut.

Will Polk (15:00): I know he was, like, a writer, I think, for some of the films and stuff back in the day because, you know, there was a lot of to your point with him work with the with the whole irony of the the whole theater aspect of things. Uh-huh. He did work you know, I think he did write a lot of the scripts and, you know, there were some references to, like, things back in the day as far as with, like, the TV shows with Bombsite and Geisha and and and also but that being said, the I really enjoyed this episode too because to your these points that you made and, you know, and also just the the the themes that they were, you know, they they were exploring this week as far as just love versus logic, you know, with the with the story with with soldier boy bomb bomb strike.

Unknown Speaker (15:51): Yeah. We'll get there. Yeah.

Will Polk (15:53): Yeah. We'll get there. Yeah. And and and then also just yeah. The things going on with with Kimiko and and Annie and and and and how the juxtaposition of them, you know, understanding what their what the what their fate is with with all of this with, you know, where where, you know, especially juxtaposing it with with Homelanders just desire maniacal desire to get the v one.

Will Polk (16:25): And the only place where I think I had any summit issues, but even at that, it didn't, like, it it attracted me. This is basically, it's just been baked into this season. And I at this point, I just accept it is the sort of the backdoor palette of of vault rising. But at this point but but if you're gonna do a backdoor pilot, this is a good way to do to do it because it it it services the overall story. So when you've introduced these when you're introducing these new characters to to get us, you know, set up for for a spin off series.

Will Polk (17:02): But but, yeah, I really, really did enjoy this episode.

Sarah Belmont (17:06): Yeah. So to start off with the legend himself, we first meet him at the theaters because that's where the boys show up, specifically Mother's Milk, looking for him as to give insight into where they can find bombs bombsite who supposedly has the v, and they take him. And because the legend believes that Goldie would know how to get ahold of him, they gotta go to the villages, which Yeah. Why did it take us until season five to learn about the soup retirement community?

Unknown Speaker (17:46): Yeah. I

Sarah Belmont (17:47): mean, that's what wet my mind. And why didn't I think about that? I mean, we had two seasons of Gen V, which introduced us to the college and to the schooling of being a so why wouldn't they have a retirement community either? Exactly. I I thought it was just brilliant.

Sarah Belmont (18:06): I'm like, where's this spin off about? So, and and in a weird way. Even when we're, we're being introduced to that. It, I didn't immediately think like, they're, they're doing this because of the whole V1 and, and having a more of a philosophical discussion or philosophical discussion about mortality. And so then to also be introduced to this character who makes you question, as you've just heard, is he a soup?

Sarah Belmont (18:51): Is he not a soup? Why does he know so much? And why is he so laid back and yet he does a read on mother's milk which I feel as though we needed that read on him three episodes ago but I'm I'm so glad we got it don't get me wrong but it just felt very like okay this is what's really going on and I like how he was almost a voice of reason because everyone else has been kind of walking around it. Fact that Mother's Milk given in light of the realization that he can't kill Soldier Boy because of V1 he he is becoming too much like Butcher. His viewpoint is shifting and the legend points that out.

Sarah Belmont (19:45): He's like, you sound like it. And you could tell in his reaction, he's like, well, now I'm second guessing because I don't have I gone too far? Is this a change for the worse? So I really like that. And it's interesting that we get that in the first half and then we don't see him only for him to come up in the second half with Homelander and then for them to have this this moment where we've been dealing so much with his father.

Sarah Belmont (20:25): I might even go into his mother issues but with his father issues. So then to have him, homelander, be confronted with this mortal

Unknown Speaker (20:35): Mhmm.

Sarah Belmont (20:36): And and who basically just breaks it down for him and be like, well, kid, if it like, this is the real then there is a natural order to things. The more you fight the inevitable, the more it gut punches you. I think he might've said something else, but whatever. I feel for you. You're a whack job, but that's talent, so no surprise there.

Sarah Belmont (21:02): And and I just like that that reaction from Homelander of in realization, this person is not afraid of me. Yep. He he is just, he he and this is why he lets him live because he got unwarranted fatherly advice.

Unknown Speaker (21:27): Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (21:28): That he has been wanting. And and that's why I still think that Homelander is a fascinating villain.

Unknown Speaker (21:36): Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (21:37): Just because it's easy to say no humanity or anything, but his his needs and his motivations are very humanistic.

Unknown Speaker (21:50): Yeah. Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (21:50): It's just that he was a lab rat and power corrupts.

Will Polk (21:56): Yeah. Yeah. That, you know, that that genuine empathy that Legend showed towards Homelander. He I mean, know, this that kudos. You know, I really hope Anthony Starr gets finally gets that gets the statue for this season because he's been putting in the work for now five seasons.

Will Polk (22:19): And the the the performance that he the numb how he conveyed those those feelings because, you know, you know, because when the legend came in there, you know, he whenever he encountered him and, you know, there was a hole with the Taco Bell receipt and and and the legend just like said, okay. I guess you're gonna kill me. And, you know, and and and and to that, we know we're we're so conditioned at this point to be like, yeah, you know, at some point, Homelanders is gonna, like, you know, laser laser him to death like he did the like he did the the coworker. Mhmm. But but whenever you know, but to your point, but whatever he shared with him that there is a there is a natural order to things, you know, and it gets, you know and again, I think it just really this is when the boys just really excels and why I like this episode so much because this was a theme that was woven throughout the episode as far as, you know, what it means to what what, you know, what does it mean?

Will Polk (23:22): What does mortality and what is the, you know, you know, homelanders just, you know, chasing immortality. And and Which Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (23:33): I mean, to to just go off of your point right there, I I would say the the brilliance of it is unknowingly Mhmm. We've been working with this theme all season.

Unknown Speaker (23:46): Yep.

Sarah Belmont (23:47): It's just that they they suddenly went out and said it. Yeah. And it's just like, oh, yeah. They are chasing that. What what am I this isn't about just surviving the virus.

Sarah Belmont (23:58): This is about, no, becoming a vampire.

Unknown Speaker (24:01): Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (24:04): And and it's weird because even though we're we've been seeing soldier boy, he's just going around, and and you don't even think twice about it. Like, you just are like, Captain America. Captain America.

Unknown Speaker (24:20): Yeah. Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (24:20): That's the logic here. Yeah. Not the fact that, no. He's going to live forever.

Unknown Speaker (24:26): Yep.

Sarah Belmont (24:28): And and then and then for that to dovetail into. Komeko and Annie.

Unknown Speaker (24:37): And

Sarah Belmont (24:38): and then being like, oh, I never thought because they made a choice not to show those conversations that those two have had, Kombeko indicates that they have had about the idea that yes they want to live but they realized that by taking the V1 it's not just about living the next sixty years with their loved ones. It's about becoming immortal and therefore watching the people you love the most Mhmm. Die in front of you.

Will Polk (25:19): Yeah. Yeah. And it was just so brilliant how they wove in the whole thing with soldier boy, bombsite, and and and was it Geisha Gloria?

Unknown Speaker (25:29): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (25:30): Yeah. Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (25:31): Oh, call her gold Goldie for short.

Will Polk (25:33): Yeah. Yeah. Goldie. You know, it was that that's what yeah. You know, weaving all that in there and then show you know, basically, like you said, becoming that vampire and, like, the empty you know, basically, just the pain of this knowing.

Will Polk (25:49): And and also, you throw Sage in there too because Sage also, you know, she doesn't want you know, part of her motive part of her motivations of him not getting to be one is because it's gonna mess up her perfect world of having this immortal homelander, you know, messing up her messing up her thing. But getting back to the the peep you know, the seeing the people you love and realizing that how empty that is that yeah. You you know, you you I think that's what makes life so, you know, so special. It it it is that, yeah, ups, downs, in betweens, you know, as as the legend said, there is an order to it. And then and I think that was a it was a you know, it was I think when Homelander heard that, it really I think it definitely it resonated with him in some on on some level, but at the end of the day, he is just so you know, he is so hell bent on, like, getting, you know, get becoming immortal that whatever rational thought I guess it's getting into his, you know, his godhood complex, I think, for for for part of it.

Will Polk (26:59): Really, you know, it

Sarah Belmont (27:02): Well, two things are going on. Just like with Annie and Kimiko, Homelander also is not just viewing the immortality of it that would make him, but also the survival instinct. They have a weapon that could kill me. So my automatic automatically, I'm going to want the anecdote to save me. It just so happens this anecdote also would make me immortal, which my father is, and I want to be like him.

Sarah Belmont (27:34): And I think that that's why in that moment, that scene, which we can go into Soldier Boy's perspective, but from Homelander's perspective, he not just got the V1. Put the V1 aside. He got acknowledgment from his father of being proud of him and that weighed more on him than I think even the fact that his father gave him what he has been looking for for the past five episodes.

Unknown Speaker (28:12): Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (28:13): So it's just I like how they they were able to take the MacGuffin Mhmm. And then to just be like, yeah, he gets it in the end. However but more importantly, he gets something he's been arguably seeking for five seasons which is his father's respect and loyalty which and I agree with you like the reactions from Anthony Starr in this episode it is some of his best work in this character who doesn't get a lot of opportunity to play subdued does not

Unknown Speaker (28:55): Nope he does not He

Sarah Belmont (28:57): does not he does not and so he took the opportunity and ran with it and it felt very similar to what he was displaying at the end of our least favorite episode this season. What was it? Episode three. So when, when he decided not to kill his dad, so I, yeah, but, so I just, just to circle back on something you brought up with sister state, sister Sage and soldier boy and the logic of it all. Mhmm.

Sarah Belmont (29:30): Because sister Sage thought she had this all planned out.

Will Polk (29:33): Yep.

Sarah Belmont (29:34): What, what did you think about the idea that soldier boy, the factor that sister Sage did not factor into it was soldier boy's love for Clara?

Unknown Speaker (29:49): Yeah. I you know, I think it may it makes sense Mhmm. To me because I know, you know, it's been one of those things that's been out there. It's like, this is supposed to be the smartest person in the world. But but, yes, she is.

Will Polk (30:09): And and and she probably ran all the probabilities because, essentially, Sage is a walking computer. And so she has gotten all this data about these these folks. She thinks they're you know, she she thinks that they're going to react in a certain predictable way because, you know, that's what she has that is the data that she has to work with. Mhmm. But she you know, but there was that since she did but she there was that that x factor that, no matter how much you put, you know, how much you put into into an equation or whatever.

Will Polk (30:47): If you, you know, if you if if if there's one variable that you don't expect or calculate for, you know, she had one probability that was like, it was gonna end up this way, but she did not factor the other thing. So whenever that happened, I was just like, yeah, that makes that makes total sense. I mean, that's the unpredictability of human of human beings. We're not machines. And so, Yeah.

Will Polk (31:14): So I I thought that I thought that was as brilliant, like, how they, you know, whenever she she was astonished there, like, they go, wait a minute. I I plan what what wait. What? This this what's happening here? I mean, that that was brilliant there.

Will Polk (31:26): I mean, because, again, this show also, like, does a map you know, it it it hits the commentary aspect of the show too as far as, like, you know, with generative AI and and and, you know you know you know, I think I think about like, you know, people using these products to, you know, seek advice, you know, for for things. And and it was, you know, it was also, you know, it was maybe not on a, you know, not directly, but it was also just a commentary on that. So I thought that was just a very, very just smart well, you know, this this again, this is where this show is just hitting on all cylinders this season, like like like you said at the beginning.

Sarah Belmont (32:09): So for for me, I thought I thought the sister stage stuff with Ashley is always brilliant. But in terms of Soldier Boy, and this goes into what you brought up earlier about the backdoor piloting. Here's my issue right now.

Unknown Speaker (32:30): My

Sarah Belmont (32:31): issue with this rising is Clara. And that's because I have not forgotten the Clara we met in season two. So what I'm getting at is suddenly based on how this ends and the fact that it's been messaged to us very clearly that they did not just have a relationship. They had their epic love affair.

Unknown Speaker (33:01): Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (33:02): And that will be a critical piece of thought rising, but I am, I'm kind of like, Do I really wanna watch soldier boy fall in love with this woman who I watched in season two, just be the most, one of the most despicable people in this universe. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Like, it's, it's a weird and it dawned on me right when he said the line where I'm just like, oh, I don't know if that's for me because I love to ship people, but I don't know if I could be

Unknown Speaker (33:38): on I

Sarah Belmont (33:39): don't know if I can root for her. Yeah. Like Yeah. Like and then you so I, knowing that and, and besides the something that I just find redundantly said on, on our podcast, because it happens all the time, but I'm gonna I'm gonna mention it. Stakes.

Sarah Belmont (34:03): Yeah. Because we we we know bombsite will live until the future.

Unknown Speaker (34:11): Yeah. Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (34:12): We we know geisha. So it's I don't know if this is ideal backdoor piloting. It is definitely interest, but I also think at the same time, Jensen Ackles just in and of himself is kind of like, oh, he's gonna play this universe's version of Captain America. You Mhmm. He had me back when he first introduced him into the show.

Sarah Belmont (34:39): Now we're gonna learn his origin story. So I just I and and he had so many good moments because because it's weird for me to say that that, like, suddenly, I'm second guessing what we're being set up for for this prequel series. Simultaneously, before that, we have the moment between Bombsite and and Soldier Boy. And in that moment, there was so much I fucking.

Unknown Speaker (35:12): Maybe

Sarah Belmont (35:15): this show has gotten to me just a little bit, but there was so much that I was very I'm I'm a bit intrigued. I wanna know their history because

Unknown Speaker (35:26): Me too.

Sarah Belmont (35:27): They were they were presented as mortal enemies.

Unknown Speaker (35:30): Yep.

Sarah Belmont (35:31): And then but they simultaneously they're like brothers. And he gives him he doesn't get he gets the v one, but in exchange, he's given the mortality.

Unknown Speaker (35:47): Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (35:49): You know, was just a beautiful moment.

Will Polk (35:51): It really was. That that moment, I was just like, wow. I mean, that that that what I've been you know, because soldier boy has been this asshole prick the whole, you know, this whole way, but then it just added a whole another level of, like because of the love of his life. And I think also, I think he, you know, he because he because he's immortal and and because of he knows that pain of losing someone he loves. And I think he even says it in the episode.

Unknown Speaker (36:28): Yes. He does.

Will Polk (36:29): He he, you know, he gave that you know, so he he gave Bam sight the it's like, here, I will take your powers away so you don't have to suffer what I'm suffering right now, which was just so emotionally mature for a character who has shown to date Mhmm. Not not high emotional intelligence.

Sarah Belmont (36:48): Yeah. Yeah. It it it was arguably the most surprising thing that happened in this episode.

Unknown Speaker (36:56): Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (36:56): Where I I wasn't I was not expecting because it also, in my mind, Were we aware that his powers, soldiers powers was able to do that?

Unknown Speaker (37:09): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (37:11): He did that. Yeah. Because they, they, they, he did it to me. Remember when back in Question.

Unknown Speaker (37:21): Homelander aware of this?

Unknown Speaker (37:25): Yes.

Sarah Belmont (37:25): Okay. So not to detract from a beautiful father son moment, But I think that's also another reason why he felt comfortable giving V1 to his son because he could take it away.

Unknown Speaker (37:40): Be good.

Sarah Belmont (37:41): So is a very I'm like, oh, I see what you did there, writers. You gave the hero the immortality while also reminding the audience, because I had forgotten completely about that, that his father can give and taketh away.

Unknown Speaker (38:03): Yep. Yep.

Sarah Belmont (38:04): Talk about religious.

Will Polk (38:06): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because he yeah. Because even earlier even earlier this season, he went in the the

Unknown Speaker (38:15): Episode three.

Will Polk (38:16): Episode three, he took Quinn's powers away.

Sarah Belmont (38:19): Yeah. Yeah. I for some reason, I was so so especially that episode, I was so detract that I just I was like, I don't know what's going on. But so I just I see what they're doing and I like it and I'm very intrigued. But can we go back to Ashley?

Unknown Speaker (38:42): Yeah, let's go back to Ashley.

Sarah Belmont (38:44): Okay. Talk about something else that I wasn't really on my radar of, first of all, needing to see and then to actually see the her her head, her second her second face to to to to be taking over the body and to walk. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (39:06): It feels so funny.

Sarah Belmont (39:07): The walking was just I I'm like, you know, it's been a long time since I've wanted to see a behind the scenes ever from from the boys. I would like to see that behind the scenes.

Unknown Speaker (39:21): Yep. Just to see what

Unknown Speaker (39:22): she had to do for it because that was very good physical humor. I

Will Polk (39:28): was That was. Yeah. That was yeah. Those are yeah. I mean, whenever DuBois interjects those moments of absurdity, that that was one.

Will Polk (39:36): I wasn't really feel vibing with the the the ball old man, but the the Bashley one, I was on board with that one.

Sarah Belmont (39:44): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I I agree. It it's like night and day.

Sarah Belmont (39:49): Feel like some of the stuff that we've been getting with Ashley this season specifically

Unknown Speaker (39:55): Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (39:56): Has just been so slapstick. And so, just I quoted so many lines from her last week.

Unknown Speaker (40:06): Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (40:06): That that I think that the other flashy stuff, we've been inundated with it over five seasons. So to have these moments, it's like a reprieve. And it's like, Okay, so you're not a one trick pony per se. But I think that and then simultaneously, because again, this episode is very much like reminder, we're coming to an end, so we got to thin the herd reminder. We have so many such a huge ensemble because we check-in with Ashley, who's in her situation, sister Sage changes sides, the deep.

Sarah Belmont (40:48): Yeah, the deep who I may and maybe I was quick earlier, Will, to say that only one thing surprised me. But I do have to say, I was not really expecting, the loss of Adam to trigger Black Noir to punch a hole into a pipeline and kill 1,400,000,000 fish?

Will Polk (41:14): Yeah. Yeah. That that was one. Yeah. I didn't expect that one either.

Sarah Belmont (41:21): And then for that revelation and then for the deep to murder his best friend in cold blood.

Unknown Speaker (41:29): Yeah. You were never my bro, bro.

Sarah Belmont (41:31): You were never my bro, bro. I just oh, I feel a little bit bad for the deep, not not because of the 1,400,000,000 fish. I feel bad for the beat the deep because it's very obvious to me that they are struggling keeping him in this story because they have so much else going on with other characters who can at least be in a scene with Homelander for more than, like, one minute

Unknown Speaker (42:11): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (42:11): And give more.

Will Polk (42:12): Yeah. Yeah. Kevin just has the yeah. He just he does the groveling thing. He does you know, he falls on the sword, you know, because with the you know, because which, you know, I think what what what worked with me with the deep this episode was the the the pipeline, you know, the philosophical thing that he was just, like, struggling with too.

Will Polk (42:32): You know? So, you know, so I know I I get your point about they were struggling to find and find the things that make him relevant or or Mhmm. Outside of Homelander, but I liked what they did with him this this episode.

Sarah Belmont (42:45): Yeah. It made it more obvious to me because I'm like I'm like, this is what we've been needing from him for the the previous episodes.

Unknown Speaker (42:55): Yeah. Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (42:56): And to to have these because that what's that's what makes him funny. And and Yeah. I'm I'm not necessarily discounting him and thinking, oh, they should have killed him off early on in the season. What I'm getting at is between this and what happened last week with the beef between these two characters, there's so much charisma there.

Unknown Speaker (43:23): Yeah, there

Sarah Belmont (43:23): is. It's just been it's like, man. This is how we utilize him. I wish there was more time to, like, really explore his world and what's happening and his part in all of this. But I sometimes I feel like he does get really the short end of that stick just because he, out of arguably all the characters, have has really been in a way on his own journey.

Sarah Belmont (43:58): Where and and I I also don't know where that journey is going. And I it's not definitely a journey I've been charting, but he definitely is a character who's like, yeah, I'm just gonna hang out in the C plot line and y'all take care of A and B stories right now. I'm comfortable down here. I don't know. So I do have this note about Annie and Firecracker.

Unknown Speaker (44:35): Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (44:36): Just because we had a discussion last week about Firecracker and Firecracker's demise. And Annie says something very interesting in this episode because when they find her body, she says, it's sad. She's just a human being. And then Huey's response is, Baby, that's why Homelander killed her.

Unknown Speaker (44:58): So

Sarah Belmont (45:01): when you saw that, what were your thoughts? Because you had some very strong opinions about, firecracker's death.

Will Polk (45:11): Yeah. It was, you know, with firecracker's death and that interplay between Huey and and Annie, you know, it it reminded me of just basic basically, she, you know, she it was one of those things. I, you know, I I don't it didn't it didn't really register too much with me. I mean, than the the it was like yeah. I think it it thinking back now, looking at the when I was watching the episode, I think it did what we talked about last week where we where there was that dividing line between Annie and and firecracker and where Annie, like, in the whenever she had that that moment, she was able to break free of Mhmm.

Will Polk (46:04): Of it because she kept on to her moral center, whereas firecracker just basically, like, you know, I'm I'm so wanna hold on to this power and hold on to my position here and vault and stuff that I'm going to just sell everybody out and just and all. So I I I to me, that just, like, reinforced what what what we talked about last week. So that I guess that's that's I think that's what I thought when I was watching that scene when whenever they had to exchange.

Sarah Belmont (46:37): Something that why it stuck out to me was not only because of that conversation from last week, but also just the something I think you did bring up was the mass murder of it all.

Unknown Speaker (46:51): Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (46:52): It was a subtle nod the and Sister Sage even points this out to Mother's Milk. It's just that you guys realizing you're saving the human race by also executing a large population of it, a large portion of it. You're committing a you're doing mass murder here, and you don't get to choose. And to go into the themes of this episode with mortality and old people, all of those exchanges between Butcher and Kimiko at villages. Well, why couldn't you make her talk?

Sarah Belmont (47:53): Well, let's be honest. I didn't wanna hurt an old woman.

Unknown Speaker (47:57): Yeah. Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (47:57): And and Butcher was not even batting an eye says she's not an old woman.

Unknown Speaker (48:04): A woman.

Sarah Belmont (48:04): Like, she's not a person. And I think that, again, what this show has not just done in this season, but all seasons with how the boys themselves have evolved is this idea that, yes, there was a time when this human gang who were trying to take down Vought and the Supes were all human. But that is not the case anymore. And the realization to get to that point where even their own group has soups within them is the realization that you can't just say all soups are bad because they're people at the end Even of the what we're talking about earlier with Homelander and even his father, Soldier Boy, are driven by very humanistic motivations. So it just so happens that on top of that, they are given these powers that are larger than life and give them abilities and just heighten some of our more extreme, what do we say?

Sarah Belmont (49:33): There's a word for it, but, intrusive thoughts are heightened. So yeah, yeah, I think again, like there's a lot of little moments in this episode that don't get weighed down by too many over the top moments. It just Yeah. It felt like a very, very clean episode.

Will Polk (50:02): It was. That's a good way to put it. It was a very, very clean episode. And, yeah, like I said earlier, they had their moments of the of the, you know, the absurdity and the crazy things that, you know, it is the boys after all. But there like, this show I mean, this really, this this season, I mean, overall, it it is it's really cooking.

Will Polk (50:22): I mean, I have to say, you know, there was a little misstep. But even at that, there was still some elements in there that, yeah, that in hindsight now, yeah, was was it the weakest episode of the season? Yes. But it definitely laid the foundation for some you know, for the the follow-up for these moments that we're getting now.

Sarah Belmont (50:41): Yep. Yep. Alright. Well, we will continue on The Boys next week. And now we're gonna head over into Daredevil, Born Again, season two.

Sarah Belmont (50:52): We're talking episodes five and episode six.

Unknown Speaker (50:57): Okay. Yes. We are. Yes. We are.

Unknown Speaker (51:00): Yes. We are. What what are some of your thoughts about this episode five being a flashback episode? Just heavy on the flashbacks.

Will Polk (51:12): Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I I I like this episode because it really it it's, for folks who who've been missing frog Foggy, gave he's you know, he gave us though those those those moments, and especially for folks who are were all about the Netflix. So, you know, there there was word that Foggy was coming back this season. So people were thinking that it was gonna be like it was in comics where they there's a story line, if I recall, where they he he does come back to life after being murdered or whatever.

Will Polk (51:50): But, you know, for me, the larger thing was it was important in the in this these two episodes. I and I have to say I've I've really these were of the of the seasons far, these two have been are are two of my favorite.

Unknown Speaker (52:06): I I agree with that.

Will Polk (52:07): Yeah. Because it really it really brought back home the point of of mercy, especially, you know so you had the flashbacks, but then, you know, with going back to present day, Matt rest you know, trying to keep Bullseye alive and and and and all.

Sarah Belmont (52:29): They're trying to escape. Yep. Because because he get so Bullseye was shot.

Unknown Speaker (52:36): Yep.

Sarah Belmont (52:36): And, but so ATV are on his ass on their asses and they're trying to escape. And let me tell you that is the longest tunnel ever. They were going down, But I completely agree with you. Specifically in episode five, my biggest takeaway was all of the conversation between Daredevil and Poindexter. And for those Daredevil fans of the TV shows, I will say it's on par with dialogue we got in season two.

Sarah Belmont (53:20): Because and this is what's been missing from Born Again. You have two vigilantes, two people who are part of this world and who are exchanging ideas about what they're doing and have a different perspective of what justice is, it's that kind of conversation. And then to tie that in more so than I think I've ever seen, whether it's the Netflix show or this show, into the religious aspect of Matt. I thought that was great. I really enjoyed that and I'm like, I want more of this because I wrote down for the first time in a long time actual dialogue, and most of it's from them because I have, Do you think she's dead?

Sarah Belmont (54:19): If she is, then it's all balances. The scales, I'm ready to face judgment. Then you have, I'm trying to save you because I tried to kill you. Maybe tonight's penance is mutual. That line right there was I was just like, can Matt, can you say it louder?

Unknown Speaker (54:40): Can you say that

Unknown Speaker (54:41): louder? People on the back.

Sarah Belmont (54:42): Say it for people on the back because I and say it for Karen because Karen needs to hear that and needs to understand that because that's what's been driving the wedge between them this Yeah. Thus far this season is that idea of why why are we allowing Poindexter or wanting to save this when he pulled the trigger? He's the one who killed Foggy.

Unknown Speaker (55:08): Yep.

Sarah Belmont (55:09): But I also think Matt knows that at the end of the day he pulled the trigger, but that doesn't mean he died because of Poindexter. He technically like, the reason why he was in Poindexter's line of sight is because of Vanessa.

Will Polk (55:28): Vanessa. Exactly.

Sarah Belmont (55:30): But I also it doesn't that doesn't mean that Matt wants Vanessa dead. He he believes in justice. Mhmm. Even though we've been, shown this season that justice doesn't currently exist in Hell's Kitchen. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (55:46): Yeah. Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (55:47): Law and order is out the window. For sure, for sure. Which, I mean, if you think about it, Will, last week we talked about how much law and order is out the window in context of this universe. And this episode, knowing that Matt is clinging to Yeah. The religious law and order of things.

Will Polk (56:09): Yeah. Yeah. That yeah. That I think that was that was one of my big takeaways from from this episode is that that that moral center that that that that that is the core that that the core of who Matt is. And now yeah.

Will Polk (56:24): There's that that religious center of justice and mercy. But, also, you know, it is very important for him as a vigilante, you know, to yes. He can be judge, jury, but that's you know, but he's not an executioner. You know? Mhmm.

Will Polk (56:44): The executioner in in Matt's worldview is the legal system. And and so that is ultimately, know, his endgame as far as bringing Poindexter to whenever things do get right to let the courts handle him. And and same with Kingpin. That's you know, that's that is that is where Matt feels the appropriate justice will happen. But because otherwise, if we just get into this base vengeance, then we're no better than the vigilantes or no better no better than the criminals.

Sarah Belmont (57:19): Do you think that's why the writers decided to Vanessa's not immediately dead.

Unknown Speaker (57:28): She

Sarah Belmont (57:29): goes into surgery and that's why and we're led to believe that's why we're getting these flashbacks is because she's in this altered state of memory and she's pretty much on the in between. But my question to you is then given what you were just talking about, do you think that's why the writers chose to not have have it immediately start with her being dead, but to then go through this journey with Fisk about through the surgery, but then ultimately he loses her. Like, that is that's his punishment for everything he's done thus far to Hell's Kitchen to Yeah. Lose the love of his life.

Will Polk (58:15): You are a 100% spot on there. Because otherwise yeah. Yeah. Because I yeah. Because I I because I whatever the episode started and and it yeah.

Will Polk (58:28): And she was there in the hospital and and

Unknown Speaker (58:32): Not dead.

Unknown Speaker (58:33): Not dead. I was like, oh, I mean

Unknown Speaker (58:36): I was like, no.

Will Polk (58:37): No. Yeah. I was like, really? Y'all, she's still with us? Because after because I it it took I know with our with our rules here, we can't we can't watch ahead.

Will Polk (58:48): So I had to like truly sit and wait after I watched the, watched the prior episode to like find out what happened. And when I did, I was just like, But then whenever but whenever to your point, that was that that is his punishment. I mean, because what, you know, that what what generally, we we if I recall, I I and I did not watch this season, but didn't Kingpin didn't he end up in prison in the Netflix show?

Unknown Speaker (59:19): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Will Polk (59:20): So so, yeah. So, you know, so clearly, that that that's that's not gonna make a mark on on on him. But Mhmm. Vanessa? Yeah.

Will Polk (59:35): Like I said earlier, whenever whenever we we talked about it, that's just gonna set him off and, you know, and and it that the one thing that was holding him back for is gone. And and so

Unknown Speaker (59:49): But I don't think she was holding him back. So Yeah. My point was last week. I don't Yeah. I don't think she was doing a good job on that leash.

Sarah Belmont (59:59): That leash gone out.

Will Polk (1:00:02): Well, maybe not holding him yeah. Maybe holding back is not the right word. But, because I mean, because but it definitely it because, yeah, I mean, he's got this AVTF and everything else. So, but and he's, you know, he's still running the web you know, he's still running the weapons. He's got the whole agreement with mister Charles and all that kind of stuff.

Will Polk (1:00:22): But I guess it was it it I guess it helped him it helped it helped keep him in in a discipline maybe as far as just, you know, playing the political game and and and the the and it also, you know, helps with with her and, you know, is she, you know, maneuvering with the governor and all that kind of stuff. Of course. Of course. Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (1:00:51): But I think I think though, the end of the day for Fisk, he has now nothing to lose. Yeah. So what does what does that mean? He has all this power, nothing to lose. And then we see in episode six, even public opinion is wavering.

Sarah Belmont (1:01:08): And I don't think that's because of Vanessa. I think that's because of the resistance that has also been on the rise this season. The other thing that started when I was sat down and I watched these two episodes back to back is in episode five, Daniel. Really, really stepping up this season for me. I find him to be very fascinating, him and Because I will tell you that at the end of episode six, when Karen is caught, I'm like, Okay.

Sarah Belmont (1:01:47): But between these two episodes, the dance that BB and Daniel are doing, I find so much more interesting.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:59): It really is.

Unknown Speaker (1:02:00): And the threat of Buck

Will Polk (1:02:02): Yes.

Sarah Belmont (1:02:03): Is Yes. Is is much more terrifying to me than for some reason than Karen suddenly finding herself taken by the ATV, which means she's just now in fifth possession.

Will Polk (1:02:19): Yeah. She's in custody. Yeah. I I'm there with you. Whenever I mean, those scenes between well, you know, just but with especially whenever they went on the drive.

Unknown Speaker (1:02:28): Mhmm. Yep.

Will Polk (1:02:29): Oh, gosh. Yeah. But oh, you know, even to set it up to you, it's just like how they set it up. But then when they were on that drive and then they stopped at the store and they bought the the the the gear and and, you know, I was just like, man, this this I I was like, I was on the edge of my seat, like, what's gonna happen with Daniel here? It's go to the woods, and then they, like, open the trunk.

Will Polk (1:02:53): And I I I guess was that the guy that was calling Foggy in in the trunk? Was was the that that that they represented who was they kept kept calling Foggy Pimbot?

Unknown Speaker (1:03:11): No. No. No. That happened in the past.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:14): Okay. Okay.

Sarah Belmont (1:03:15): No. No. Took it as that was the guy who in the hospital Buck runs off for as a reporter. I thought that's who that was. I might be I might be wrong because because we're also led to believe that Foggy gave him the money to leave, McCoy the money to leave.

Sarah Belmont (1:03:39): And Yeah. So Buck never, but that didn't make sense to me because that was also also, Buck's first, first, assignment from this. So I would have, I would have thought, but maybe there's some holes there and maybe you're right. Somebody in the comments, please, please let us know. The whole, the fifth episode with the Daniel and Buck scenes, it reminded me of a little show that we may have discussed for a brief period of time called The Penguin.

Unknown Speaker (1:04:17): Yes. Yes. It

Sarah Belmont (1:04:19): was that that kind of gangster

Unknown Speaker (1:04:25): Mhmm.

Sarah Belmont (1:04:26): Mole in the the, clubhouse type of feel that I I was like, This again, this type of tension is far more interesting than whatever the fuck was last week.

Unknown Speaker (1:04:45): Yeah. Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (1:04:46): Whatever they think they're doing with some of this monkey court stuff. I'm like I'm like, no. We don't want this. We want that.

Will Polk (1:04:59): I don't even want fucking Heather scenes. I'm like, yeah. I just well, that was that was another, like, well, yeah.

Sarah Belmont (1:05:06): Unfortunately, I kind of know where Heather's going. Not, not because I've read a header or anything, but I've just seen some stuff. So I'm like, okay, whatever. But then in the sixth episode to continue on Daniel, we have this great episode of him and BB at his house celebrating his birthday with his mom. And again, it takes a page from the penguin where you meet this person's family you see their why they made are making the choices they are, are making as an adult.

Sarah Belmont (1:05:45): And you also, there is just so much honest dialogue of these two or Daniel specifically finally be like Bibi cut the shit. You know what you're doing and I'm going to explicitly tell you I know what you're doing because you need to stop because I can't protect you. And I also I wasn't mad at him for yelling at her or calling her out because she was she is giving mixed signals. She is playing both sides and she's not really factoring in like like in a sense from what we've seen a BB thus far, she knows what Fisk and his men did to her uncle.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:36): Yep. Yep.

Sarah Belmont (1:06:36): So why does she think that, she can be protected from the same fate? So there's a risk. But I think what was really shown in this episode and with that confrontation is there's a naivety to it. Mhmm. And Daniel's kind of like, okay.

Sarah Belmont (1:07:01): We both need to wake up because Yeah. I just took this this ride with Buck, and we we ain't living in La La Land anymore.

Will Polk (1:07:10): Nope. We are not. We are definitely not. Yeah. I like what you I'm glad you brought up the penguin because that there deaf there is that huge parallel between the the the the the the meeting of family, in these two in these two series for sure.

Sarah Belmont (1:07:26): Well, it just plays it allows the show to play more into that gangster, and I'm gonna say soprano genre.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:36): Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (1:07:37): And and which is funny given the actor who plays Michael Gandolfini, James Gandolfini's son. So it's just very it's a great place for a show like this explore and to have elements of, given the nature of who Kingpin is in this And notice I say Kingpin and not Fisk. And maybe that's, again, something that we've talked about this season specifically is we're getting much more daredevil technically this season than we are of Matt. And finally, in episode five, because of the religious connotations, you you are kind of getting that mat seeping in while at the same time, we're getting mayor Fiske. We're not getting kingpin.

Sarah Belmont (1:08:34): We're getting mayor And the bleeding of those two make Mayor Fisk seem like just a joke considering the man also has people locked up in cages. So Yeah. So, yeah. Then we finally got Jessica Jones.

Unknown Speaker (1:08:55): Yeah. I was about to ask you. So what do think about Jessica Jones of it all?

Sarah Belmont (1:08:58): I liked it. I I like the the the briefness. I I like the fact, hey. She knew she met with mister Charles.

Unknown Speaker (1:09:08): Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (1:09:08): Just Yeah. Matthew Lillard is also lurking around.

Unknown Speaker (1:09:13): He is. He is. He's getting waking around. He's gonna be joining James Gunn and Manna tomorrow. Yeah.

Sarah Belmont (1:09:18): Yeah. Yeah. As as you as you pointed out before in terms of last week with Vanessa on the boxing ring mat, this week was the first time where I was like, Okay, well, I'm actually excited to see the final two episodes of this season because these two is what I've been missing. They have me, and I hope they don't fuck it up. I hope it doesn't become a season one catastrophe.

Sarah Belmont (1:09:52): But I mean between both shows that we're talking about right now as we are coming to an end of it I feel like things are starting to click, puzzle pieces are being put together and while simultaneously new themes and new players are appearing. And that's what you want. Whether you're ending a series or just ending a season of television because there is going to be a season three of Daredevil Born Again. Plus we have this little punisher special presentation coming up too. So Yep.

Unknown Speaker (1:10:37): We ain't leaving Hell's Kitchen for a while, y'all.

Unknown Speaker (1:10:41): No. We are not. We are definitely not. Yeah. They're yeah.

Will Polk (1:10:44): We know we like you said, we got a third season coming. And, yeah, I did see, though, where and and who knows? You know, this may or may not be true, but I think Charlie Cox did say he's not in the upcoming Mark of Avengers movies coming up. But, you know, but but then again, there's like a thousand people in there. So, you know, maybe he'll just like they'll throw they'll maybe throw us a little morsel somewhere, maybe the horns.

Sarah Belmont (1:11:11): I don't think they need more people in Doomsday. I really don't. I really don't. I I and and also noticed that he didn't say anything about a little Sony project with a

Unknown Speaker (1:11:24): That's true.

Sarah Belmont (1:11:24): Famous web sling slinger. So that's the project that I would be more curious and more thinking he would be in if any out of any of the big pictures in the slate.

Will Polk (1:11:34): Yeah. Yeah. So maybe yeah. So, yeah, so maybe we'll get a Matt sighting, maybe in July. We'll we shall see.

Unknown Speaker (1:11:41): We already saw him once.

Unknown Speaker (1:11:43): Yeah. We did.

Sarah Belmont (1:11:44): We did. We did. He might he might Peter might have to circle back to that lawyer he once met.

Unknown Speaker (1:11:52): He might have to.

Unknown Speaker (1:11:53): He doesn't know him anymore. So Right. Alright. Well, on that note, Will, why don't I tell our listeners where they can find you?

Will Polk (1:12:02): Yes. You can find me on all the socials at Will and Polk, w I l l m p o l k. Also, just be on the lookout for, interview. I I got a opportunity to talk to a director from, Star Trek Strange New Worlds, doctor Valerie Weiss. Had a great conversation with her about Star Trek, but also a show she's got coming up on Amazon called It's Not Like That, starting next Friday.

Will Polk (1:12:23): So, I'll probably drop it out to some point next week.

Sarah Belmont (1:12:27): Yep. And please be on the lookout for that and follow me on to it on x formerly known as Twitter at s j belmont. You can follow our crew there at Seen and Nerd, on Bluestay, Seen and Nerd. Friend us on Facebook, followers, and Instagram thread and threads at Seen and Nerd, Nerd, and visit our website, www.cnnnerdpodcast.com. But most importantly, rate, follow, and comment on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you get podcasts.

Unknown Speaker (1:12:59): Good night, geek out. You're welcome.

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