The Bear Season 4 Review: Is This The Perfect Blend Or A Bitter Taste?

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>> Sarah : Music

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Greetings, nerds. This is Scene N Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah Belmont, and

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with me, as always, is our Mr. Producer, Will Polk How are you doing

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tonight, Will?

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>> Will: Doing very well, Sarah. Hope you're doing well this Tuesday

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evening.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, I just got reminded that, like,

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last week you were telling me about, like, the flash flooding that

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was happening in your neck of the woods.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

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>> Sarah : So. So yesterday,

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now. Now where I work, and this

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might sound odd,

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but I essentially, our, our building is

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essentially on top of a mountain.

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And like, like, literally, like, it's

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like we're on the edge of the cliff.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Okay. Okay. And we have been told that based

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on how they designed the building and if there's an

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earthquake, like, we'll slide not

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forward.

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This whole thing. It's the whole thing. But anyways,

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so just to give you an understanding, and, like, there's massive

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windows, and my area is near a window. And

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to tie this back into rain, yesterday,

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I kid you not for. For about,

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like, out of nowhere, all of a sudden, I hear, oh,

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my God, look out the window. And when I turned,

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I was like, God, just

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started a fire hose.

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>> Will: Oh, my gosh.

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>> Sarah : I. And I. I even said to my co

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workers, I'm m. Like, I've never even seen

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it rain this hard in, Juneau.

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And Juneau's, like, known for its rain. It's like

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Seattle of. Of Alaska.

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And like, the rain was diagonal

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because there was wind.

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And all I could think is, man, if anybody was taking a

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walk, poor them, because dear Lord.

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But yeah, anyways,

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so I just had that random thought that I wanted to

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get out there. and there is no

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smooth tie in to this or

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Le Leg. Whatever. yeah,

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let's talk about them ease. Because Will wants to talk about. That means.

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>> Will: Well, I mean, we, you know, we. We decided to, like,

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jump head first into Superman last week. But yeah,

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we. We did have, some Emmy nominations,

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last week, which is actually a good lead into

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one of the topics. Our main topic for tonight, which is

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going to be the Bear, which, was

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nominated for, Outstanding

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Comedy Series, even though it was. Even though it's

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not a comedy, but.

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>> Sarah : Nominated for season three, but whatever.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. Just so. Just so we're clear, as far as Emmy

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nominations just for. To reset for folks. So,

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the, the Emmys that were the

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nominations that were announced last week is for the.

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For the shows to air between June

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1st of 2024 and May 31st of

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2025. So, just wanted to. That

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way you just Wanted to be clear for folks, you

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know what the, what the time frame for, for the shows

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that were nominated. and, and

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yeah so that was a Sarah the Bear season three

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which as we're talking about season four tonight. But

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also in the comedy series

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category, the Studio which we we we just covered

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here on the podcast a few weeks ago which was, was a,

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was a fun show. I, I really really really did

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like that. glad we we went

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checked out something else in Prestige TV on Apple.

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Apple tv.

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>> Sarah : I think Hacks is gonna win.

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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah, probably yeah. Hacks or Hacks

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or Abbott Elementary. I mean those, those two are

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always seems to be the, the the sort of front

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runners. and I know shrinking, I haven't watched it

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but you know it's one of those things. I think this as far as the social media.

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Buz class always

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talks about that show.

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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, of course we

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have our outstanding drama shows which you know

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several things that we have covered in the last year

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we're on there of course andor the Last of Us

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season two which you know I think that was

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as much about reputation, the quality of

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the season

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to just, just being honest. But you know

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the further distance I get from, from season two the more

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I, I, I, I, I just don't, I'm just

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not feeling it. but one show

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that we both really really did enjoy paradise

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was was nominated.

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>> Sarah : That is hilarious because you know that

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the way you feel about the Last of Us is the way I feel about

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Paradise. The further away from I get to it,

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the more I'm upset about that show.

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>> Will: Yeah, well, yeah, well I know,

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yeah yeah, well I know paradise is going to be a Comic Con this

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upcoming weekend and I'm gonna try to live stream

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their their presentation. So

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so check it out. I know it like butts up against the

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Star Trek one too. So I'm just like okay, how am I do this? But

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I'll figure it out.

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But all the shows, you know, I still

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haven't watched a minute of the White Lotus.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, don't. It's so boring. So boring.

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>> Will: But but I know it has a little connection here to

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to my backyard because due to Jason Isaac's

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character had had a Duke University

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sweatshirt or T shirt in that show this past season. And

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it's funny story. I think the only reason why it was one of those things where

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he was passing through the airport in Charlotte and actually I think that's how he

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ended up with the T shirt. All right,

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yeah. but, let's see. As far as limited

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series or anthology. Anthology series, of course.

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Adolescence and the Penguin, which were two things,

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I think, as we definitely get distance from

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both of those, the more I just appreciate both of those shows.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah.

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>> Will: and then also as far as,

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other quick items, as far as.

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>> Sarah : You go to the directing

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categories.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Because when I was scanning the list, I was, ah.

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Because I don't know how much people understand

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that when you're nominated

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for, and specifically

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television shows, when you're nominated for like

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outstanding writing or directing, it's not the whole

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season. Like they put forward

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actual episodes and so that's how you get.

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Oh, yeah, go ahead and just pause on the

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drama. I don't care about copy. because

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that's how we get outstanding directing.

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The Pit is nominated twice, Severance is

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nominated twice, and

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man, the Pit. It's

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interesting because I'm pretty sure 7am

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is the first episode. 6pm

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makes more sense to me why they would do that

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episode. And then.

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And, or who are you?

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But I think for directing. Oh, no, they did that

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for directing. What about writing? Did they nominate

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that episode for writing?

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or did they did I, am I remembering

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correctly that it was actually the, welcome to the

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Rebellion. Rebellion, which is the Mon

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Mothma speech episode, right?

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>> Will: That's correct. That's correct.

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>> Sarah : That's correct. Okay. I,

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I, I, I still think

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that who are you

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writing and directing, but I get

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it. I understand why. I mean, there's not as

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much technical writing in that

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episode of who Are you, but.

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just looking at the. What the competition is

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for the Pit again, which

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but it's such a very

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different workplace drama

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that I've ever seen. And I think

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for me, I'm, I wish

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that there was more character development,

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but I understand that

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they were doing a very unique thing

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where it really just felt like somebody

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was documenting what happened in a real life

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ER for a day. Yeah,

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that's what it really feels like.

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yeah. But, you know, I haven't watched

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Severance Season 2, and I know it's

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outstanding from what I hear. So a part of

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me, even with these, some of these

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nominations, whether it be

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andor the Pit, I

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don't know. I have a feeling it might go to

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Severance for a lot of these, but we'll

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see.

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>> Will: Yeah, it, Yeah, I mean, Severance, was

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nominated for 27 awards,

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overall, all shows. The studio actually, was

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set, was, also a top nominee with 23

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nominations. And the Penguin, actually got

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>> Sarah : yeah, yeah, I thought

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Andor got the most.

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>> Will: Andor got 14.

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>> Sarah : Okay, I, I guess I read that headline like, way

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wrong.

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>> Will: Another thing about Andor too, is none of them, none of the

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actors were nominated. It was all either,

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like we discussed here, writing and, and, and

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directing. And also a lot of it was technical

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categories.

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>> Sarah : That makes sense.

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Yeah. I'm sorry. I. I love them. but,

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yeah, if. Trust me, if, if they would have

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nominated, Cassian.

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No, not Cassian. I'm blanking on his name. What's his

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first name?

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>> Will: Oh, Diego Luna. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Thank you, Diego. Lina. I would have been like, yeah, that's a

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Millie Bobby Brown nomination for you.

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>> Will: Yeah. it was really, truly an

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ensemble show. The more I think of it, you know, Stella Stark, if

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anybody, it was really Stella Star Scars Guard.

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And, and, Genevieve, O'Reilly,

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to me, would be the two people I would nominate for that show for acting.

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>> Sarah : Maybe. Maybe it just.

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Yeah, yeah. Or, What about

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Adolescence? What episodes

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for writing and directing. So,

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okay, this is interesting. So they're just nominated for the

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full season of directing.

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>> Will: Correct, Correct. Which I guess. Yeah.

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Because I know there are four episodes.

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>> Sarah : But then why is the Penguin, like

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two episodes are nominated? So they're just

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doing. Interesting.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

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>> Sarah : I mean, if it. Honestly, I love the Penguin.

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We all know how I feel about the Penguin, season one.

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It's great. It's great.

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Adolescents better get something

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in directing and writing, because

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I don't. I don't care. And, and that

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actor, that kid actor.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Oh, my God, the boy. the episode called the

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Boy. It is such a. It's such a good

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episode of television.

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>> Will: Yep. And there's there, There is adolescence for

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writing.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. And Stephen Graham, who

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plays the dad in the show. Yeah.

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>> Will: Yep. Yep. And it's my understanding of. I want to say that the,

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actor, the young man who did play the,

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Yeah, he was Du Bois.

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Yeah, he. I can't remember the boy's name in the, in the show, but he was

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nominated because adolescence, got 13,

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>> Sarah : Nominations overall, as they should,

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because. And yes, they did

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the Cheat Code, but they did it to

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perfection because. Wow. To

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do a one shot. I mean, I did take note that the.

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The episode of directing for Comedy Studios,

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nominated for is the oner. And I'm

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like, no, the best episode of that show

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is casting. Okay.

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Oh, my God. And that episode didn't even get

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nominated for writing. And I'm like, well, you.

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Because that was the best episode. Are you

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kidding me? My God.

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Jesus. Yeah. The promotion got episode which was

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the first episode of this season.

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It was solid, but not when you compare it to

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casting.

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>> Will: No.

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>> Sarah : Like, Oh, my God. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. It's just.

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I mean. Yeah,

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it's tough.

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>> Will: The one or did get for directing. So.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I said.

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And the bear napkins makes

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all the sense in the world why. Why

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they would nominate that episode out of season three. It

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is arguably the best episode of season three.

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>> Will: Correct.

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>> Sarah : and, AO is gonna get.

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AO I think

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is becoming the new Peter Dinklage where she

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will always get an Emmy nomination and probably a

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win because.

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Because in. For season four, she's gonna get

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nominated for co writing the episode

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called, Worms. So she's

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already gonna get nominated for that.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : I'm surprised she didn't direct that episode, but more on

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that in a moment. yeah. I'm

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glad to see that a lot of the shows

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that as you like to put it it. Are

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prestige television

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discussions have been.

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Have been nominated rightfully. So.

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I hope they do the right thing and give Adolescence.

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Even though it's a British drama, like, it's props

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because I mean,

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arguably it's been a while since.

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And I know you're gonna remind me, well, how many times did you watch

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the Bear season two, but

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Adolescence. Within a week I had

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watched those four episodes.

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At least. I think three of the four. Three

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times.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : And then like all four of them at least twice.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : It's just. And. And I still. Every now and then

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I'll think about a moment and

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it just felt

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so raw. And I,

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don't want to use the word like disturbing

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in the most unusual way.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : and horrifying in the most unusual

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way. So I, I just.

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The technical achievement

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alone should just be a

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sweep. But I also know that the Emmys

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like, viewers. So.

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>> Will: Yeah, well, I think. Well, you know, well, it. They like viewers

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and this show Adolescence, if it's not still

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the top. It was definitely the top.

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>> Sarah : Yes.

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>> Will: series on. On Netflix for. For some time as far

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as minutes watched and stuff. So it had eyeballs. I was just

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talking to someone this week about adolescence, as well. I

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mean, this is truly one of those shows that just,

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you know, this definitely just sticks in the consciousness.

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when. When you watch it and. And you're Right.

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I mean, just all. All the adjectives you used to

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describe it, are just on point there because it really

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is, that. That impactful of a. Of a television

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show.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. And even though it

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wasn't, for the most part, my cup of tea,

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I would say the same thing for Andor, like, all the

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accolades you give Andor. And I

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know people who, like, love the

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lore, say Andor is the

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best Star wars television show and

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arguably product that we've had in decades.

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So.

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And. And it's. And so it's

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good to see, like, a show in that

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genre, like the sci fi fantasy genre,

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get accolades like this as well. Writing

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competition, when we got the. The high.

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when we got shows like Severance and White

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Lotus out there. And, and

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what we're about to talk about right now, the Bear season

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four. I mean,

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when you just brought up how my feelings about

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adolescence. Bear season four.

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Okay, well, we're gonna get into this,

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and. And I've forewarned you, and you gotta.

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You gotta watch me tonight. You gotta be

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like, sarah, you're going down

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a rabbit hole, and I need you to circle back.

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I'm not gonna give away my overall thought, but

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obviously I really enjoyed the season.

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So, to. To break it down,

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the episode that has haunted me

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since I've watched it is the finale.

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And we are going. I would like

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to start with how the finale

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starts, which is Sid and talking

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about Sid this season. Because

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this season. And my first question to you

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to get your thoughts out there on it, Will. Is

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about Sid and her decision to

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take up Shapiro on his offer that

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he made to her first in the season finale

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of season three, to become

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the head of his new restaurant. And

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so for arguably like

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eight or nine of the 10

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episodes, we see her

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continuing to go back and forth like she's

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making small steps forward with Shapiro,

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not really not telling Carmy or anyone else.

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But you. You can tell it's weighing heavily on

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her. So for you and your

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experience with this season, did you feel

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like they drug it on too long?

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Were you suppressing. Surprised of the outcome of her

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choosing to stay with the Bear? What.

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What are your thoughts? And feel free to bring up

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episode four, Worms.

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>> Will: Yeah. yeah, I do want to talk about

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worms, but I. I will say,

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I'll be completely honest. I was getting

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a little worn out with how they

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were drawing an elk.

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>> Sarah : Yep.

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>> Will: throughout the season, I was like. Because every time,

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you know, because it. Because it was. It would

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get to it, and. And she was Trying to

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tell Carmy or, and then, or the others,

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you know, and then, you know, something would happen

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and then, and then, you know, Shapiro calls

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Carmy and, and, and then

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this, it was just so many things about the

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decision and also

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the you know, worms and also with her dad

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and you know, they kind of, to me they

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telegraphed that. So when it, when it was the hall, when he had,

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when they had the, the call that nobody ever wants to

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get about their parent, or any, or anyone,

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I felt like they had telegraphed that something was going to happen to dad.

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Just the way that she kept putting him off throughout the

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season, in those early episodes. So,

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so part of it was that, so that piece was predictable.

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The, But I will say I was frustrated

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with the, the build up to, and the

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drone out of it that finally, when she does finally tell

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Adam that she's not going to accept the

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offer, it felt anti climactic to me.

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>> Sarah : So, yes, I, I

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agree completely. Mainly

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because I don't know if you had this thought

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why it felt dragged out, but I was just like, well, we

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know the last episode's called Goodbye, so

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obviously she's going to take the offer and then season

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five is going to be

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like. I was like just waiting for that.

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but before we get into more about that,

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I want to. You brought up her dad having a heart attack.

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Okay. So

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I, I, I've rewatched this season

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and so I've seen all the episodes twice.

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I didn't think much of anything. I mean

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she's purposely ignoring, ignoring

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him. Very similar to the,

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the fact that we're constantly reminded about how

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Carmy, to pursue his dream,

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basically abandoned his family. Yeah. Right.

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So you, so I think that's why

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they brought up that parallel. But when

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AO is sitting in the waiting room with

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Claire.

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>> Will: Oh gosh.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, now.

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And I don't know if it's just me, but her

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line delivery about

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like he's always supposed to be here.

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He, he's Parallels,

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I swear to God in the exact same

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way she gives the same, same line

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delivery in the finale

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when she yells at Carmy, but you're my

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partner. You're supposed to be here.

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Like. And so I thought the moment

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I heard her say that it made that whole

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line story, arc with her

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dad so much more

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impactful for me. Because then

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it's like, okay. Because

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another thing that we're reminded about this season

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is especially towards the end is she

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lost her mom when she

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was young. So, so you.

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And what we're reminded about in worms.

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Like, her hairdresser is her cousin,

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who she clearly is. Friends

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clearly get along like part of the family

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and yet also like, her

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cousin is not afraid to point out. Yeah,

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you're. You're kind of distancing yourself

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from us to go, like, because

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you're putting your work family above

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this. So which,

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which ties into her conversation

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with. With, Donna

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during the wedding episode about work,

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family and family. Family

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and all of those connections.

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And I will. I. I had to. I made all

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of those connections during my re. Watch.

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>> Will: Okay.

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>> Sarah : None of this hit me during my first watch.

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But my point being is

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that, yeah, the. The whole dad,

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you. You knew something was gonna happen to him,

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but I don't think it's about

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him necessarily. It's more

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about how that then

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when you're like, it makes

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her decision at the end of the day to stay

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more like, okay,

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yeah, that makes sense why she

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would stay. I don't think it was meant to be

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climactic. I think the writers just

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wanted to make sure, like, you

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didn't take it like Shapiro and being like,

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well, that's a stupid decision.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Like, you understood her logic.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she totally

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understood that. And Shapiro. Just. Just to touch on that

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briefly. I mean, his,

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you know, with worms and, you know, there were a couple

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things with that episode. One, I just felt

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like, you know, he was, you know, when he was trying to again

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do the pitch as far as, like, we have a health plan and

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we have all the equity in the kitchen, in the restaurant and

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all that kind of stuff. But then the thing that also

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felt kind of performative to me as far as, like, him trying to

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relate was whenever she was like, trying to, you know,

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she's like, look, I move. You know, I'm going to my cousin's hair done and that

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kind of stuff. And. And then he was like, oh, yeah, I watched, Well. Oh, God, I

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can't remember the name of the. The Good Hair. Good Hair.

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Yes, Good Hair. And it was just so.

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I. I just. It was so cringe to me when he

517
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said that. Like, he was just trying to, To.

518
00:24:27,650 --> 00:24:30,570
To relate and be all Mr. Progressive and all

519
00:24:30,570 --> 00:24:31,330
that kind of stuff.

520
00:24:31,330 --> 00:24:34,290
>> Sarah : You. Did you catch the moment when she's

521
00:24:34,290 --> 00:24:37,130
touring the space and he has on

522
00:24:37,130 --> 00:24:39,930
like, this hardcore rap hip hop

523
00:24:39,930 --> 00:24:41,810
music and she turned it to classical.

524
00:24:42,370 --> 00:24:43,250
>> Will: Yep, I did.

525
00:24:46,530 --> 00:24:49,370
Yeah. It's just. I mean, that's. That's the thing I do appreciate

526
00:24:49,370 --> 00:24:51,330
about how well written this show is.

527
00:24:52,450 --> 00:24:55,250
those moments. And then, you know, and also, like, even with

528
00:24:55,250 --> 00:24:58,130
with their cousin, you know, as far as the code switching,

529
00:24:58,090 --> 00:25:01,060
whenever she was getting the phone calls and stuff, and she, you know,

530
00:25:01,060 --> 00:25:03,740
and. And, you know, again, the show

531
00:25:03,740 --> 00:25:06,620
always is so on point with their. With

532
00:25:06,620 --> 00:25:08,870
their, guest stars, you know, having Daniel

533
00:25:08,870 --> 00:25:11,550
Deadweiler, you know, play the cousin, of course, Robert

534
00:25:11,550 --> 00:25:14,540
Townsend's back as. As the dad. and. And

535
00:25:14,540 --> 00:25:17,430
so, you know, that all those. Those are the

536
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:19,590
little. The little points that make the show.

537
00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:23,230
Even when I will freely admit it took me a moment to

538
00:25:23,230 --> 00:25:25,910
get back into. Into the Bear this season.

539
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:29,430
but once I did, I was just like, oh, yeah, I remember. I love the show.

540
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:33,590
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. So sticking with Sid,

541
00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:36,630
ah, we talked about her dad.

542
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:40,230
What are your thoughts about her conversation with

543
00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:42,600
Donna during, the wedding

544
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,400
episode, also known as the. The Bears

545
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:46,840
episode?

546
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,120
>> Will: The Bears, Yeah. Yeah, that was.

547
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:53,000
You know, I think if I. If I'm not mistaken, that was the first time

548
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,880
they've met, they've heard, and,

549
00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:59,200
it was. It was a very. Those.

550
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,600
You know, this is why,

551
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,960
even though Donna grates on me as

552
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,080
far as a character, but the way

553
00:26:07,890 --> 00:26:10,450
that she. That Jamie Lee Curtis and I.O.

554
00:26:10,850 --> 00:26:13,650
did that just to perform that scene,

555
00:26:14,450 --> 00:26:17,330
it just, you know, episode seven,

556
00:26:17,330 --> 00:26:20,300
I know, we were messaging Sunday. I was like, yeah,

557
00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:23,139
I'm thinking it's taking. It's taking me a while to get through because, of course, this, you know, the

558
00:26:23,139 --> 00:26:25,980
Bears always got to have the big one, Big, big episode

559
00:26:25,980 --> 00:26:27,650
for the season. but,

560
00:26:28,830 --> 00:26:31,630
it was. I. It just

561
00:26:31,630 --> 00:26:32,750
felt so authentic.

562
00:26:33,130 --> 00:26:33,370
>> Sarah : Like.

563
00:26:33,850 --> 00:26:36,730
>> Will: And in that moment with. Especially when they're talking about family

564
00:26:37,050 --> 00:26:39,930
and. And everything about that scene, it

565
00:26:39,930 --> 00:26:42,730
just really just, really just resonated because,

566
00:26:43,050 --> 00:26:46,010
you know, because, you know, from Sid's standpoint, you

567
00:26:46,010 --> 00:26:48,650
know, she's. She's probably, you know, she's. She's heard about.

568
00:26:48,889 --> 00:26:51,850
About Donna and this. How destructive she is. Right?

569
00:26:52,090 --> 00:26:55,090
And then, you know, from. From Car's perspective and the rest

570
00:26:55,090 --> 00:26:58,090
of the. The bears. But whenever

571
00:26:58,090 --> 00:27:01,090
she actually meets her and they have that conversation, it's just like, you

572
00:27:01,090 --> 00:27:03,870
know, I think. Yeah. And

573
00:27:03,870 --> 00:27:06,720
I think, you know, after. After it was all

574
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,440
done and. And all that, it was.

575
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,840
She's like, oh, you know, she.

576
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,800
She had a dip. I guess it

577
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,600
helped reinforce her decision to stay. To me,

578
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,960
as far as, like, this is the family I'm a part of now.

579
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,720
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. Because Donna

580
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,680
says, I love seeing the same people every day.

581
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,200
And this is in reference to when she used to work in the

582
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,190
restaurant the Beef. And it felt very

583
00:27:33,190 --> 00:27:35,910
alive. A strange comfort. Sometimes your work

584
00:27:35,910 --> 00:27:38,630
family is closer than your family. And

585
00:27:38,630 --> 00:27:41,420
then a Or Sid

586
00:27:41,420 --> 00:27:44,340
says sometimes your work family is part of

587
00:27:44,340 --> 00:27:47,139
your family family and they can all be

588
00:27:47,139 --> 00:27:49,940
a family together. And, and

589
00:27:49,940 --> 00:27:52,380
it really is the moment like

590
00:27:53,420 --> 00:27:56,260
I mean she, even when she, she's, she

591
00:27:56,260 --> 00:27:57,980
gets under the table. I mean

592
00:27:59,020 --> 00:28:01,780
she's now a

593
00:28:01,780 --> 00:28:04,770
part. Like Carmy says at the end. No, you are the

594
00:28:04,770 --> 00:28:07,050
bear and the bear,

595
00:28:07,610 --> 00:28:10,410
there's, there's two sides. The bear, the restaurant

596
00:28:10,410 --> 00:28:13,370
and the brazados, the bears themselves.

597
00:28:14,970 --> 00:28:17,610
So. But, but also

598
00:28:17,770 --> 00:28:20,410
at the same time that,

599
00:28:20,490 --> 00:28:22,970
that conversation

600
00:28:23,210 --> 00:28:25,770
is very crucial for us as viewers

601
00:28:26,180 --> 00:28:28,670
to know like the next,

602
00:28:28,910 --> 00:28:31,310
next episode. That's when Sid calls

603
00:28:31,310 --> 00:28:34,230
Shapiro and tells him this is

604
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:37,030
off. I'm not gonna do, I'm not gonna do

605
00:28:37,030 --> 00:28:39,790
this. He basically,

606
00:28:40,030 --> 00:28:42,830
no, it's not that episode. It's the, It's.

607
00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:45,470
I think it's okay. Episode nine,

608
00:28:45,790 --> 00:28:48,430
in my opinion, is the finale.

609
00:28:48,990 --> 00:28:51,680
Episode ten is an

610
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,440
epilogue. Yeah, I know. Hot take,

611
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,760
hot take. But it's true. It's true

612
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,840
twice. Everything, all of

613
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,680
the threads really come together in

614
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,669
that final In that episode nine. The

615
00:29:06,669 --> 00:29:09,350
real finale or the real, like an

616
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:10,710
epilogue? That really

617
00:29:12,870 --> 00:29:15,590
such wonderfully done. But I'm gonna get to that in a

618
00:29:15,590 --> 00:29:18,560
moment. So my point being is that

619
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,600
like that helps us

620
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,640
understand what's going on with Donna. Because

621
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,160
in the next episode.

622
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:28,720
Episode eight.

623
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,760
>> Sarah : No, no, because episode eight is

624
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,880
when Carmy takes the drive.

625
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,720
Episode nine is when he actually has the conversation

626
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,160
with Donna at the house.

627
00:29:41,930 --> 00:29:44,930
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because. Yeah, yeah, because. Yeah, because. Yeah,

628
00:29:44,930 --> 00:29:47,210
he. Yeah, that's correct.

629
00:29:47,530 --> 00:29:49,530
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. Which,

630
00:29:50,250 --> 00:29:53,050
and what, what I'm saying is like

631
00:29:53,290 --> 00:29:56,170
after, right after these few words are

632
00:29:56,170 --> 00:29:59,050
exchanged between Sydney and Donna, Donna leaves.

633
00:29:59,850 --> 00:30:02,330
And in her conversation

634
00:30:03,130 --> 00:30:05,930
in the ninth episode with Carmy, the first

635
00:30:05,930 --> 00:30:08,090
time that they have seen each other ever,

636
00:30:09,270 --> 00:30:11,670
like in decades. Years.

637
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:14,630
>> Will: Years. It's been a minute.

638
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:17,750
>> Sarah : Yeah. Like, and I just want to go

639
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:20,630
into that scene before we get to Carmy because

640
00:30:21,030 --> 00:30:23,670
wow. Oh my

641
00:30:23,670 --> 00:30:25,990
God. Talk about

642
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:30,790
like please give the Os or please give

643
00:30:30,790 --> 00:30:31,670
the Emmy. Now.

644
00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:38,540
that. That is just such a good

645
00:30:38,860 --> 00:30:39,980
scene of

646
00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:42,900
somebody apologizing.

647
00:30:45,540 --> 00:30:48,390
But also, And they did it so

648
00:30:48,390 --> 00:30:51,070
sly upon my

649
00:30:51,070 --> 00:30:53,950
rearraged, I realized because the

650
00:30:53,950 --> 00:30:56,390
way Donna apologizes to

651
00:30:56,390 --> 00:30:58,750
Carmy for essentially his childhood.

652
00:30:59,550 --> 00:30:59,950
>> Will: Yeah.

653
00:31:00,590 --> 00:31:03,350
>> Sarah : He is very similar to the

654
00:31:03,350 --> 00:31:06,310
way Carmy apologizes to Sid and

655
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:07,070
to Richie.

656
00:31:07,550 --> 00:31:10,270
>> Will: Yep. Yeah, I, Yeah, I picked up Donna's

657
00:31:10,270 --> 00:31:12,940
parallels. yeah, I was just like,

658
00:31:12,940 --> 00:31:15,700
damn, you know, Carmy and Donna are just two. They,

659
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:16,500
they are just.

660
00:31:17,140 --> 00:31:19,140
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah.

661
00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:20,660
>> Will: And yeah, they're the same person.

662
00:31:20,660 --> 00:31:23,460
>> Sarah : I was like, yeah, but, but

663
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:25,860
they're the same and it's the same

664
00:31:26,020 --> 00:31:28,860
tragedy, whether it's when she

665
00:31:28,860 --> 00:31:31,500
apologizes, like, and she says,

666
00:31:32,380 --> 00:31:34,860
I was hurt and I took it out on you,

667
00:31:35,340 --> 00:31:38,140
on Michael and Natalie.

668
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:41,580
And then when she does that, I couldn't help him.

669
00:31:41,580 --> 00:31:43,659
I probably made it worse. I don't know.

670
00:31:44,380 --> 00:31:47,260
And I don't know you, meaning Carmy.

671
00:31:47,420 --> 00:31:50,380
And. And you don't know me. And I know that's

672
00:31:50,380 --> 00:31:53,380
my fault. Like, go back to

673
00:31:53,380 --> 00:31:56,060
Sid and Donna, like the work

674
00:31:56,140 --> 00:31:58,060
family. In that moment,

675
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:01,580
she's inquiring to someone she's never met

676
00:32:01,580 --> 00:32:03,500
before about her own son.

677
00:32:04,140 --> 00:32:04,540
>> Will: Yeah.

678
00:32:04,540 --> 00:32:07,260
>> Sarah : Like, how is he? How is he in

679
00:32:07,260 --> 00:32:10,020
this? Like, you work together, you know him,

680
00:32:10,020 --> 00:32:12,940
you're invited to one of our family members wedding.

681
00:32:15,260 --> 00:32:18,060
Like, clearly you know more about my

682
00:32:18,060 --> 00:32:20,620
son than I do. I mean, he talks to you,

683
00:32:21,820 --> 00:32:24,660
so you can just feel all of. Hear all of

684
00:32:24,660 --> 00:32:26,300
that guilt and that pain.

685
00:32:27,970 --> 00:32:30,690
And, and, and I love how

686
00:32:30,690 --> 00:32:33,490
she's like, you see, I wrote it. I wrote it down.

687
00:32:34,210 --> 00:32:36,380
And I, was so proud. And then,

688
00:32:36,940 --> 00:32:39,740
and then he cooks for her. And

689
00:32:40,060 --> 00:32:43,060
it's arguably, it's pretty much the first time that

690
00:32:43,060 --> 00:32:45,340
we really see him cook in the season.

691
00:32:46,060 --> 00:32:46,620
>> Will: Yeah.

692
00:32:46,620 --> 00:32:48,860
>> Sarah : And. And it's just, it's so.

693
00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:53,150
It's also nice. Like, I, I

694
00:32:53,150 --> 00:32:55,590
can appreciate how the response,

695
00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:59,030
A lot of response that Carmy has

696
00:32:59,110 --> 00:33:00,150
throughout this season

697
00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:05,030
to anyone is. I hear

698
00:33:05,030 --> 00:33:05,430
you.

699
00:33:06,070 --> 00:33:06,470
>> Will: Yeah.

700
00:33:06,470 --> 00:33:09,340
>> Sarah : And I think that that, is. Is

701
00:33:09,340 --> 00:33:12,260
acknowledgment of what was missing, like, specifically

702
00:33:12,260 --> 00:33:15,260
in season three. There was so much talk,

703
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:18,380
but nobody was hearing or listening to

704
00:33:18,380 --> 00:33:21,190
each other. which just led to a lot of

705
00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:22,750
resentment. But.

706
00:33:24,830 --> 00:33:27,830
>> Will: Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, that was. Yeah, yeah,

707
00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:30,750
that was. Yeah. I mean that. This was. I mean this, this

708
00:33:30,750 --> 00:33:32,350
season definitely was like,

709
00:33:33,390 --> 00:33:34,430
followed up on.

710
00:33:36,430 --> 00:33:38,670
It was a. Well,

711
00:33:39,150 --> 00:33:41,940
I'll put a pin in that. Let's just move. Let's. one last thing about,

712
00:33:42,380 --> 00:33:45,370
Sydney before we move on to Carmy. But also, you know,

713
00:33:45,770 --> 00:33:48,490
and her decision and really what the thing

714
00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:51,929
really, worked for me so well, was her conversation with

715
00:33:51,929 --> 00:33:54,889
tj. Her. You know, because

716
00:33:54,889 --> 00:33:57,889
with the whole thing with her, with her, she

717
00:33:57,889 --> 00:34:00,809
ended up because her cousin, like, ran

718
00:34:00,809 --> 00:34:03,369
out of, you know, braids for her for,

719
00:34:04,169 --> 00:34:07,129
for while she was doing her hair, so she had to run out. But

720
00:34:07,369 --> 00:34:09,609
I just really. This. That

721
00:34:09,929 --> 00:34:12,649
worms has set up so many things for this

722
00:34:12,649 --> 00:34:15,600
season. and, and so, and.

723
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,600
And the whole conversation about this, you know, the slumber party

724
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,560
and you know, her little cousin, you know, having to go to,

725
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,040
you know, this, you know, the school and you know,

726
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,040
you know, obviously using the, the school

727
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,960
Situation as a parallel between the two restaurants. I mean, it's

728
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,720
just. It was just so well done. And it was just sort of, you know, and just

729
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:35,560
Sydney just basically talking out loud. Her. Her.

730
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,480
You know, her. Well,

731
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,360
she was feeling internally with her little cousin to. To

732
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,220
help her, help her make the decision. So after

733
00:34:44,220 --> 00:34:46,980
watching. After watching Worms, I. I

734
00:34:46,980 --> 00:34:49,860
felt like she was going to stay at the Bear. And then

735
00:34:49,860 --> 00:34:52,780
that's what got me so frustrated when I felt

736
00:34:52,780 --> 00:34:55,700
like it was just getting dragged

737
00:34:55,700 --> 00:34:58,460
out over the course of the seasons. Like, just. Just tell us already.

738
00:34:58,620 --> 00:34:59,740
Just tell everyone already.

739
00:35:00,940 --> 00:35:03,340
>> Sarah : Right, right, right.

740
00:35:04,210 --> 00:35:06,930
so. So. So now then to move on to Carmy.

741
00:35:08,130 --> 00:35:09,970
Carmy, like

742
00:35:10,770 --> 00:35:13,650
the. The Bear, as in the restaurant

743
00:35:14,130 --> 00:35:16,450
guilt he deals with this season.

744
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,640
because essentially it's

745
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,400
very, very clear that their

746
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,320
failure, all of

747
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,520
the holes in the parachute, are his fault.

748
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,000
Or at least 75%.

749
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,360
and. And you can see him internalizing that.

750
00:35:39,180 --> 00:35:42,140
and it also feels like rejection. Like suddenly

751
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:44,940
even his restaurant family is

752
00:35:44,940 --> 00:35:47,660
rejecting him, similarly to

753
00:35:47,819 --> 00:35:50,620
how he must have felt like as a

754
00:35:50,620 --> 00:35:53,340
child and being rejected from his own family,

755
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,970
and being casted as an as. As an outside

756
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,920
cider, which. So.

757
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,740
So he. He makes a bunch of changes pretty,

758
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,000
early on where he quits cigarettes,

759
00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:07,850
he apologizes to declare.

760
00:36:08,650 --> 00:36:11,400
And, And this all happens really

761
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,400
in episode three. And at the end of

762
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,040
the episode, after his conversation with Claire,

763
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,680
he calls Pete and makes a change to the

764
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,410
contract. But we don't know what that

765
00:36:23,410 --> 00:36:24,170
change is.

766
00:36:24,890 --> 00:36:25,450
>> Will: Correct.

767
00:36:25,450 --> 00:36:28,010
>> Sarah : Until the finale, which. Well,

768
00:36:28,170 --> 00:36:30,690
until episode nine, where Sid

769
00:36:30,690 --> 00:36:33,210
learns that he is removing

770
00:36:33,210 --> 00:36:34,890
himself as a partner.

771
00:36:36,650 --> 00:36:39,440
so he's basically quitting the restaurant, or as

772
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,760
Sid likes to put it, all restaurants.

773
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,920
but. And I think that decision

774
00:36:48,810 --> 00:36:51,490
came also, came

775
00:36:51,730 --> 00:36:54,650
from a brief conversation that he has

776
00:36:54,650 --> 00:36:57,250
with Tina where she says,

777
00:36:57,970 --> 00:37:00,850
I can feel you chasing something, like you're

778
00:37:00,850 --> 00:37:03,849
fixating on something, but I just want you

779
00:37:03,849 --> 00:37:05,330
to know you're the.

780
00:37:06,450 --> 00:37:07,010
>> Will: Yeah.

781
00:37:07,490 --> 00:37:10,490
>> Sarah : And I think it's that moment where he

782
00:37:10,490 --> 00:37:13,290
realizes, like, yeah, he is

783
00:37:13,290 --> 00:37:16,000
chasing a star, but really what

784
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,720
he's chasing is

785
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,560
he's trying to make.

786
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,720
He's trying. He's trying to be like,

787
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,600
okay, I did leave. I did conquer

788
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,800
this industry. I got a star.

789
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,560
So me not being there for my

790
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,720
brother and

791
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,190
not, not, not

792
00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:43,630
like, not just not being there.

793
00:37:44,190 --> 00:37:47,150
Yeah, like all that guilt is worth it.

794
00:37:48,030 --> 00:37:50,660
You know, it's kind of, helping him

795
00:37:50,660 --> 00:37:53,660
erase that guilt. And. And so

796
00:37:53,660 --> 00:37:56,619
he has to deal with that, but he can only deal with that

797
00:37:56,619 --> 00:37:59,180
by, like, removing himself from the

798
00:37:59,180 --> 00:38:01,780
restaurant. I also think it's Interesting

799
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:04,820
how? How,

800
00:38:05,380 --> 00:38:08,290
in a way. And he admits it

801
00:38:08,290 --> 00:38:10,730
when he finally gives them a

802
00:38:10,730 --> 00:38:13,450
fixed menu. so no more

803
00:38:13,450 --> 00:38:16,330
chaos menu. And he says, I was doing

804
00:38:16,410 --> 00:38:19,330
that to test myself. Like, it was

805
00:38:19,330 --> 00:38:22,329
a very selfish thing to, like, to prove

806
00:38:22,329 --> 00:38:24,850
to myself and so to improve my

807
00:38:24,850 --> 00:38:27,810
skills. Flashback to

808
00:38:27,810 --> 00:38:30,810
season two, still the best

809
00:38:30,810 --> 00:38:31,850
season of the Bear.

810
00:38:32,510 --> 00:38:32,910
>> Will: Yep.

811
00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:35,420
>> Sarah : where we have many episodes,

812
00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:38,940
and Carmy is actually the

813
00:38:38,940 --> 00:38:40,780
one who is taking

814
00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:44,740
this group of people, whether it be Tina, whether it be

815
00:38:44,740 --> 00:38:47,739
Marcus, whether it be Richie, whether it be Sid and all

816
00:38:47,739 --> 00:38:50,700
of the others, and uplifting them and

817
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:53,260
saying, no, no, no, we're done with the beef.

818
00:38:53,660 --> 00:38:56,380
This is the new standard. And we've

819
00:38:56,380 --> 00:38:59,340
seen. And through that season and arguably

820
00:38:59,420 --> 00:39:02,060
last season, and now here, you can see

821
00:39:02,140 --> 00:39:04,460
all of them have actually

822
00:39:04,540 --> 00:39:07,180
risen and met that potential.

823
00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:11,540
But there's a disconnect for Carmy

824
00:39:11,540 --> 00:39:14,460
because it's like, okay, you guys have met

825
00:39:14,460 --> 00:39:17,260
me where I'm at, but I

826
00:39:17,260 --> 00:39:18,540
don't know how to.

827
00:39:20,060 --> 00:39:22,380
I don't know how to keep climbing for myself.

828
00:39:23,350 --> 00:39:26,230
Yeah. So which. Which is a very,

829
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,480
interesting thing because it's like, okay, did he

830
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,370
plateau? is it. Does it go back to

831
00:39:32,370 --> 00:39:34,970
that conversation Luca has with Tina about

832
00:39:34,970 --> 00:39:37,690
pressure, and Carmy just doesn't know how to live

833
00:39:37,690 --> 00:39:38,930
without the pressure.

834
00:39:39,570 --> 00:39:42,490
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. That was a very telling conversation that Tina

835
00:39:42,490 --> 00:39:45,370
and. And Luca had about pressure and

836
00:39:45,370 --> 00:39:47,970
stuff. And. And. And. And. And

837
00:39:48,210 --> 00:39:50,630
I think. And especially when you connect it to

838
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:53,550
Carmi's comment in the finale where he's

839
00:39:53,550 --> 00:39:56,310
like, you know, I don't love this anymore. And.

840
00:39:57,750 --> 00:40:00,470
And it was a computer. Who was it? I'm trying to remember.

841
00:40:00,630 --> 00:40:03,510
Because in the. In the. In

842
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:06,470
the show, you know, computer asked the question,

843
00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:07,510
why are you doing this?

844
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:09,110
>> Sarah : Yeah.

845
00:40:11,590 --> 00:40:14,510
>> Will: And. And it was. And it was also. And I know when I watched the

846
00:40:14,510 --> 00:40:17,390
finale, there was a callback. It was an earlier episode in

847
00:40:17,390 --> 00:40:20,310
the season. I don't know if it was with Jim. Oh, was it with Uncle Jimmy

848
00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:20,790
at the.

849
00:40:23,650 --> 00:40:24,610
>> Sarah : Sorry, what's the question?

850
00:40:25,250 --> 00:40:28,050
>> Will: Oh, the question is. So when Carmy says,

851
00:40:28,370 --> 00:40:30,450
you know, he doesn't love it anymore. Love

852
00:40:31,410 --> 00:40:34,210
the restaurant and the cooking and everything in the finale

853
00:40:35,250 --> 00:40:38,170
there. So there was earlier in the season. I can't remember if

854
00:40:38,170 --> 00:40:41,040
it was Uncle Jim. Uncle Lee. Excuse me.

855
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,200
Not Jimmy.

856
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:42,250
>> Sarah : Uncle.

857
00:40:42,590 --> 00:40:45,440
>> Will: Lee. at the wedding or

858
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,480
whatever they were.

859
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,440
>> Sarah : Yeah, I know what you're. I know what you're talking about.

860
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,120
It's a reference to the first

861
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,880
episode of the season where Natalie

862
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,920
tells him. That's it. Well, it's not the first

863
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,640
episode. I think it's, like the third episode.

864
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,640
But she tells him it's okay if

865
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,560
you no longer love it. And it's right after

866
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:08,840
she references.

867
00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:10,280
>> Will: Yeah.

868
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,360
>> Sarah : Dropping him off at the train station to go to the train station.

869
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:13,720
>> Will: Yes.

870
00:41:14,030 --> 00:41:16,990
>> Sarah : Which is a flashback that we see at the beginning of

871
00:41:16,990 --> 00:41:18,280
episode. Or, season three.

872
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,800
>> Will: Yeah, that's. That's. That's. That's exactly what I.

873
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,800
Yeah, because I remember it was earlier in the season. I know I wasn't making it up.

874
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,800
I just couldn't. I just couldn't remember which character brought

875
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,440
it up. But I just felt those parallel. That, that.

876
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,600
That statement at the beginning of the season and then what he

877
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,640
says at the end. but I don't.

878
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:38,490
>> Sarah : I don't think it's because

879
00:41:38,490 --> 00:41:41,490
she also says it's okay

880
00:41:41,490 --> 00:41:44,290
if you no longer love it, because the best

881
00:41:44,290 --> 00:41:47,010
part is you were capable of that love.

882
00:41:48,050 --> 00:41:50,850
Like the same thing with Claire. I mean,

883
00:41:50,850 --> 00:41:53,770
this season, there's so much time where Carmy

884
00:41:53,770 --> 00:41:56,690
clearly is still in love with Claire, but

885
00:41:56,850 --> 00:41:58,290
they have that very.

886
00:41:59,890 --> 00:42:02,850
That in that conversation where he finally

887
00:42:02,850 --> 00:42:04,930
apologizes, but.

888
00:42:05,890 --> 00:42:08,530
And then by the end of it, he brings back the

889
00:42:08,530 --> 00:42:10,930
sweater, but they're still not together.

890
00:42:11,250 --> 00:42:14,050
Like, he's capable of love with

891
00:42:14,050 --> 00:42:16,890
Claire. He's capable of love with the

892
00:42:16,890 --> 00:42:19,330
restaurant, but at the end of the day,

893
00:42:21,330 --> 00:42:24,330
he hasn't. He hasn't

894
00:42:24,330 --> 00:42:27,090
figured out this guilt or

895
00:42:27,330 --> 00:42:29,250
even. Or grief.

896
00:42:30,140 --> 00:42:30,380
>> Will: And.

897
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:33,100
>> Sarah : And. And I think. I think the more

898
00:42:33,500 --> 00:42:36,460
true statement for him in that finale

899
00:42:36,780 --> 00:42:39,580
is when he. When he says, I don't know who I

900
00:42:39,580 --> 00:42:41,500
am outside of the restaurant.

901
00:42:42,140 --> 00:42:43,180
>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

902
00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:46,059
>> Sarah : Like. And. But then again,

903
00:42:47,180 --> 00:42:50,140
it's. The restaurant's called the Bear, and the brazados

904
00:42:50,140 --> 00:42:53,100
are the Bear. So it's kind of

905
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:55,980
like. Or do. Like. I don't

906
00:42:55,980 --> 00:42:58,980
know. There's something also there. There's a. There's

907
00:42:58,980 --> 00:43:01,830
a layer there where I almost want

908
00:43:01,830 --> 00:43:04,430
to say by. By Carmy removing

909
00:43:04,510 --> 00:43:07,110
himself from the restaurant. I'm not sure if

910
00:43:07,110 --> 00:43:10,110
that's breaking a pattern as much as he

911
00:43:10,110 --> 00:43:13,110
thinks it is, because it's. The breaking of patterns

912
00:43:13,110 --> 00:43:16,110
is a conversation that he has with Uncle Lee

913
00:43:16,110 --> 00:43:17,070
at the wedding.

914
00:43:17,550 --> 00:43:20,510
>> Will: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean,

915
00:43:20,510 --> 00:43:23,270
to me, I. So I felt

916
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:26,270
like we. Carmy, this season made progress,

917
00:43:27,150 --> 00:43:30,030
but it wasn't growth. But you get what I'm saying.

918
00:43:30,030 --> 00:43:32,950
I mean, he's making some progress. Like you said, he's able to

919
00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:35,950
apologize. He's trying to, you know, he's. He's taking the

920
00:43:35,950 --> 00:43:38,430
steps to make him, you know, to. To try to.

921
00:43:40,350 --> 00:43:43,230
To help you to. To men, relationships.

922
00:43:43,230 --> 00:43:46,110
And. And, But, But.

923
00:43:47,310 --> 00:43:50,180
But to me, when I was watching the finale, I was Just like,

924
00:43:50,180 --> 00:43:53,020
it's him stepping away from the restaurant just, just

925
00:43:53,020 --> 00:43:55,830
to. Just going back to what. What's in his

926
00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:59,230
personality DNA, which is like, whenever things

927
00:43:59,230 --> 00:44:01,830
get tough and as Richie calls him out on it, you know,

928
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:05,630
good battery in between, you know, he, He, He. He leaves the

929
00:44:05,630 --> 00:44:08,430
situation. I mean, part of him going off to be

930
00:44:08,430 --> 00:44:11,230
this master chef not only was to challenge himself and

931
00:44:11,230 --> 00:44:13,950
everything, but also, I think was to get away from that chaos with

932
00:44:13,950 --> 00:44:16,390
Donna and everything with the family and now.

933
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:17,350
>> Sarah : Exactly.

934
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:20,960
>> Will: Yeah. so to your, to your point is like, is this, Is

935
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,620
this. Is this him

936
00:44:24,020 --> 00:44:26,940
breaking away, leaving the restaurant, even though he's

937
00:44:26,940 --> 00:44:29,780
like, you know, and it's interesting how he defined leaving.

938
00:44:29,780 --> 00:44:32,260
He's like, no, no, I'm not leaving an alert room. I'm going to get things

939
00:44:33,780 --> 00:44:36,730
in the black here. But, but, you

940
00:44:36,730 --> 00:44:39,730
know, is, Is he. Is he reverting back to what he, what

941
00:44:39,730 --> 00:44:42,610
he knows and what he's comfort. His comfort zone. Especially

942
00:44:42,610 --> 00:44:45,570
when you think about, you know, the wedding

943
00:44:45,570 --> 00:44:48,380
episode, which I know you made such a great point, in our notes

944
00:44:48,380 --> 00:44:51,380
as far as how pivotal that episode is, because they talk about

945
00:44:51,380 --> 00:44:54,230
fear and you go around, you know, and everybody's under

946
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:57,030
the table and they go over what they fear. And he, you know, he just,

947
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:57,550
you know,

948
00:45:00,270 --> 00:45:02,990
he. He still doesn't. You know,

949
00:45:03,950 --> 00:45:06,770
I just think about that, like, with, the finale, it's like. No, no,

950
00:45:06,770 --> 00:45:09,650
he. He's still going through that

951
00:45:09,650 --> 00:45:11,210
muscle memory that he's familiar with.

952
00:45:12,570 --> 00:45:14,810
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, he's.

953
00:45:14,970 --> 00:45:17,930
He's just. He's running away from

954
00:45:17,930 --> 00:45:20,520
his work, family now, because he doesn't know.

955
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,720
He doesn't know what to do. And

956
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:27,560
it. And it's also,

957
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,720
I think, another reason why that decision,

958
00:45:33,330 --> 00:45:36,050
kind of le. Like a lot of viewers are

959
00:45:36,050 --> 00:45:38,890
mixed on, is because of the trust, as

960
00:45:38,890 --> 00:45:41,850
you pointed out. Like. But you also keep

961
00:45:41,850 --> 00:45:44,690
saying you're gonna fix things before you leave. So.

962
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,400
So I, I can only assume we're gonna get you in season five,

963
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,320
and by the end of season five, like, that's the

964
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,840
show, but you're still gonna play.

965
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,080
I just. I just can't see him not

966
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,920
be a part of the bear or

967
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,790
even the beef. in general, it's.

968
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:05,990
But before we get. Go into that and

969
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:07,670
get into the Richie of it all,

970
00:46:09,230 --> 00:46:11,870
I just want to circle back to his conversation with Uncle

971
00:46:11,870 --> 00:46:14,760
Lee, because conversation with Uncle

972
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,680
Lee was one of the. Another highlight from the wedding

973
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,520
episode. And,

974
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,200
and mainly what I like about that

975
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,680
conversation is because it does bring up

976
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,719
what happened in Fishes from season two.

977
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,280
And, and that relationship that

978
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,240
Uncle Lee had with Mikey. And we find out that before

979
00:46:35,240 --> 00:46:38,040
Mikey's death, Uncle Lee and him actually

980
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,750
became friends. And it was a bit too

981
00:46:40,750 --> 00:46:43,550
late. But that's why Uncle Lee

982
00:46:44,110 --> 00:46:46,630
doesn't. Doesn't have like, the same

983
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:49,440
guilt. And what I, What I also

984
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,120
will say about that scene is

985
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,600
it's another instance where

986
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:59,080
somebody who was around during that

987
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,880
period of Michael's life,

988
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,560
Carmy just looks at them as like,

989
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:09,240
well, well, what did he talk about? And then the

990
00:47:09,240 --> 00:47:11,440
moment they said, oh, he talked about you.

991
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,920
And then he wants. He wants proof.

992
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,760
It's very similar to Richie in the finale

993
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,680
where. Oh, oh, you went to. You went to the

994
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,160
funeral. What was I wearing?

995
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,280
>> Will: Yeah.

996
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,130
>> Sarah : Uncle Lee, you became friends with, Michael, and

997
00:47:27,130 --> 00:47:30,060
Michael talked to you. Michael

998
00:47:30,060 --> 00:47:31,620
talked to you about me.

999
00:47:32,820 --> 00:47:35,660
Tell me, what did he say? Oh, you. You

1000
00:47:35,660 --> 00:47:38,100
wrapped. You wrapped fish

1001
00:47:38,420 --> 00:47:41,300
in something and all this stuff.

1002
00:47:41,940 --> 00:47:44,580
And so it. It's just.

1003
00:47:44,660 --> 00:47:45,540
It's very.

1004
00:47:48,580 --> 00:47:51,420
It's like my. It's like Carmy, which

1005
00:47:51,420 --> 00:47:53,700
is the most frustrating thing about him,

1006
00:47:54,260 --> 00:47:57,050
is seeking validation from, A

1007
00:47:57,050 --> 00:47:57,410
ghost.

1008
00:47:58,370 --> 00:47:58,930
>> Will: Yeah.

1009
00:47:59,650 --> 00:48:02,490
>> Sarah : And it's. And it's. And it's very. And I think

1010
00:48:02,490 --> 00:48:05,170
that's. Like you mentioned it before, Donna still

1011
00:48:05,170 --> 00:48:07,850
grates on you. Carmy still grates on us

1012
00:48:07,850 --> 00:48:10,610
because we're

1013
00:48:10,610 --> 00:48:13,330
like, we. We want you to get better.

1014
00:48:14,290 --> 00:48:17,010
But. Yes, but it's,

1015
00:48:17,010 --> 00:48:19,870
It's. It's such a. It's such a, When you see people

1016
00:48:19,950 --> 00:48:22,860
in that kind of state. And,

1017
00:48:22,860 --> 00:48:25,270
And I think this is, kind of. Kind of

1018
00:48:25,270 --> 00:48:28,110
explains Sid's reaction when the

1019
00:48:28,110 --> 00:48:30,590
finale conversation turns into

1020
00:48:31,230 --> 00:48:33,950
Richie and Carmy. It's where it's just

1021
00:48:33,950 --> 00:48:36,510
like, okay, I'm just.

1022
00:48:36,989 --> 00:48:39,230
I can't do anything to help the situation.

1023
00:48:40,110 --> 00:48:42,750
So all I can do is just watch because.

1024
00:48:43,630 --> 00:48:44,110
Yeah.

1025
00:48:46,510 --> 00:48:47,310
>> Will: How to smoke.

1026
00:48:47,950 --> 00:48:50,690
>> Sarah : Because I'm, apparently not allowed to leave, according to

1027
00:48:50,690 --> 00:48:53,390
Richie and, And. And

1028
00:48:54,030 --> 00:48:56,190
Michael of it all. Like, Michael

1029
00:48:56,590 --> 00:48:57,950
starts off this season,

1030
00:48:59,630 --> 00:49:02,350
it's the only flashback we get of him with,

1031
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,250
John Bernthal. and they're.

1032
00:49:05,330 --> 00:49:07,970
They're making sauce. You know,

1033
00:49:08,050 --> 00:49:10,930
and it reminds me of the first season

1034
00:49:11,810 --> 00:49:14,730
and where Carmy has to make

1035
00:49:14,730 --> 00:49:17,180
sauce for the.

1036
00:49:17,580 --> 00:49:20,180
The family dinner, which is the

1037
00:49:20,180 --> 00:49:23,060
bear family dinner. I forget what they call

1038
00:49:23,060 --> 00:49:25,610
it in a restaurant. They call it something. And,

1039
00:49:26,740 --> 00:49:29,700
And there's a back and forth with. With Richie about

1040
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:32,700
it and because he's like, we're spending way

1041
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:34,100
too much money on the sauce.

1042
00:49:34,660 --> 00:49:35,140
>> Will: Yeah.

1043
00:49:35,210 --> 00:49:38,210
>> Sarah : but it, it also ties into what you brought up

1044
00:49:38,210 --> 00:49:40,950
before with, like, the falling out of love of

1045
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:43,800
kitchen, of, of

1046
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,280
cooking, of the job. Like,

1047
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,560
you have to, you have to love it. You have

1048
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,280
to, you have to care about it.

1049
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:55,400
So if you lose it then,

1050
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,960
like, because

1051
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,230
Michael, complains about how he lost his job.

1052
00:50:02,350 --> 00:50:05,230
Ah. As being a car salesman or

1053
00:50:05,230 --> 00:50:08,080
in a rental car. And Carme's first question is,

1054
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,040
well, did you love it?

1055
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,200
So.

1056
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:12,400
>> Will: Yes.

1057
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:13,520
>> Sarah : Yeah.

1058
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,760
>> Will: That's a theme that just recurs throughout,

1059
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,180
throughout this season. you know, with, with.

1060
00:50:19,180 --> 00:50:21,020
With our, with our characters. And

1061
00:50:22,030 --> 00:50:24,830
Yeah. And you know, I think with the whole. With,

1062
00:50:24,990 --> 00:50:27,390
with losing the passion. You know, this is

1063
00:50:28,110 --> 00:50:31,110
especially something like being a world class chef. And I think

1064
00:50:31,110 --> 00:50:34,030
about Sydney talking, you know, whenever she shares a story about how

1065
00:50:34,030 --> 00:50:36,940
she goes to New York, you know, to like eat and

1066
00:50:36,940 --> 00:50:39,900
car, you know, to eat in Carmen's restaurant. So she has that

1067
00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:42,860
passion and she still has that passion even after all that

1068
00:50:43,180 --> 00:50:45,510
that's transpired. and

1069
00:50:45,830 --> 00:50:48,470
she still, you know, she still has that love

1070
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:51,470
for this. And I think Carmy, you know, and the sad

1071
00:50:51,470 --> 00:50:53,590
thing is Carmy recognizes it in other people,

1072
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:57,350
but, you know, but he just doesn't recognize those,

1073
00:50:57,350 --> 00:51:00,000
those great qualities about himself. which is,

1074
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,920
which, which is really just makes. It breaks my heart

1075
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:03,680
for the character.

1076
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,640
>> Sarah : Right. Right. He.

1077
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,520
It's. It's very, it's very hard because like, as

1078
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,360
you put it, there was growth,

1079
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,440
but there's also still a little bit of

1080
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,360
stagnation because. And why I

1081
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,920
love the finale so much is because we're finally having

1082
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,680
conversations that I've been waiting

1083
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,880
two seasons for these people to have.

1084
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,040
Okay. Two seasons

1085
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,600
specifically. And this leads me to Richie because

1086
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,000
like, I love how you get a good

1087
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,360
15 minutes with just Carmy and Sid and

1088
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:43,200
then Richie comes in and then it's about

1089
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,130
the funeral that. And we. And and I can

1090
00:51:46,130 --> 00:51:48,850
appreciate that they made sure that the viewers

1091
00:51:48,850 --> 00:51:51,770
knew that Carmy wasn't lying.

1092
00:51:52,250 --> 00:51:54,970
Like he did go to the funeral. Uncle Lee has

1093
00:51:54,970 --> 00:51:57,710
confirmed it, but nobody else saw

1094
00:51:57,710 --> 00:52:00,630
him. And he did leave because it's

1095
00:52:00,630 --> 00:52:03,510
Carmy and he couldn't handle it because of the

1096
00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:06,270
guilt. But throughout the season

1097
00:52:06,430 --> 00:52:08,270
we also get many instances,

1098
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:11,840
leading up to this moment where

1099
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,080
Rich. Richie is still holding on to some things.

1100
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,200
And, and through Jessica,

1101
00:52:20,260 --> 00:52:22,660
who was hired at the beginning of the season,

1102
00:52:23,470 --> 00:52:25,880
previously seen in season two,

1103
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,600
we, we learn that,

1104
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,320
that Richie,

1105
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,440
Richie has always been envious

1106
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,640
of Carmy because

1107
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,159
at the end of the day

1108
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,680
Carmy is still blood.

1109
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,410
And Richie can be called cousin.

1110
00:52:48,570 --> 00:52:51,340
Richie can be the sand which. Such a

1111
00:52:51,340 --> 00:52:52,020
grid line.

1112
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:56,930
He, he can be, he can be all those things,

1113
00:52:56,930 --> 00:52:59,330
but he will never be Mikey or

1114
00:52:59,330 --> 00:53:01,890
Natalie's true sibling. He will never be

1115
00:53:01,890 --> 00:53:03,250
Donna's child.

1116
00:53:03,970 --> 00:53:04,370
>> Will: Right.

1117
00:53:04,530 --> 00:53:07,090
>> Sarah : And that resentment,

1118
00:53:09,260 --> 00:53:11,180
I, I, I think why

1119
00:53:12,380 --> 00:53:14,860
this touches particular,

1120
00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:20,450
this speaks, to me is because

1121
00:53:20,610 --> 00:53:23,490
I deal with a similar

1122
00:53:23,570 --> 00:53:25,890
thing with one of my siblings,

1123
00:53:26,740 --> 00:53:29,160
and arguably all of my siblings because

1124
00:53:29,720 --> 00:53:32,560
we all have our own lives, but then again,

1125
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,480
we grew up in the same house, so we have that history.

1126
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,520
But there are people that I know,

1127
00:53:40,610 --> 00:53:43,490
know my, my brothers more than me.

1128
00:53:44,370 --> 00:53:47,170
And, and when I encounter

1129
00:53:47,170 --> 00:53:50,130
them, it is kind of this feeling like,

1130
00:53:50,930 --> 00:53:53,810
but you're the stranger. Like I should

1131
00:53:53,810 --> 00:53:56,650
know this, you shouldn't know this. And,

1132
00:53:56,650 --> 00:53:59,330
and it's a very, it's a very fine line,

1133
00:53:59,490 --> 00:54:01,930
but it's beautifully captured in this

1134
00:54:01,930 --> 00:54:04,770
conversation where, where we finally get

1135
00:54:04,770 --> 00:54:07,190
acknowledgment between Richie and

1136
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:09,230
Carmy of their,

1137
00:54:10,350 --> 00:54:12,670
the resentment towards each other.

1138
00:54:13,310 --> 00:54:13,870
>> Will: Yeah.

1139
00:54:14,030 --> 00:54:15,550
>> Sarah : For just being who they are.

1140
00:54:16,190 --> 00:54:18,350
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

1141
00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:23,190
Yeah. I mean that, yeah, that, yeah, I mean that's,

1142
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:25,870
that's the thing about, to your point about the, the, the, the

1143
00:54:26,270 --> 00:54:28,910
finale really was almost like a bottle episode that

1144
00:54:29,150 --> 00:54:32,070
even though it was technically the tenth episode of the season, it was

1145
00:54:32,070 --> 00:54:35,020
like it was a bottle episode for as

1146
00:54:35,020 --> 00:54:37,860
far as the last episode for the season because all

1147
00:54:37,860 --> 00:54:38,980
the, everything really,

1148
00:54:42,420 --> 00:54:45,340
all the major beats for the characters were all wrapped

1149
00:54:45,340 --> 00:54:48,140
up as far as the rest of the ensemble in

1150
00:54:48,140 --> 00:54:51,100
episode nine. But with this finale, you

1151
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:54,060
know, it really, you know, because the bear really has become sort of

1152
00:54:54,060 --> 00:54:55,700
a core between Richie,

1153
00:54:56,660 --> 00:54:59,060
Sydney and, and Karmi

1154
00:54:59,970 --> 00:55:02,760
M. And, and so, you know, so for that

1155
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,680
final episode to really focus on the three of them, you know, and

1156
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,440
of course Natalie shows up at the end too. But I mean,

1157
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,440
they are sort of that core because when I think about Richie

1158
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,320
when we first met him in season one versus the Richie that

1159
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,280
we see now, you know, to your, you

1160
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,280
mentioned earlier how like all these other characters have like,

1161
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,240
you know, you know, currently believed in them, mentored

1162
00:55:23,240 --> 00:55:25,960
them in his own, you know, no non

1163
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,620
negotiables way, but

1164
00:55:28,860 --> 00:55:31,700
they have come together and coalesced. But now that, you know,

1165
00:55:31,700 --> 00:55:34,660
Richie now like owns that front staff. I mean he is, you

1166
00:55:34,660 --> 00:55:37,460
know, whenever, whatever at the end of the

1167
00:55:37,460 --> 00:55:40,010
episode, in episode 10 where, you know,

1168
00:55:40,170 --> 00:55:43,130
when Sid, when they, when he is just as much of

1169
00:55:43,130 --> 00:55:45,890
the bear as anybody else and when they

1170
00:55:45,890 --> 00:55:48,850
all made that offer to like, Sid made that

1171
00:55:48,850 --> 00:55:51,690
offer and, and Carm to like

1172
00:55:52,090 --> 00:55:55,090
make him that other partner, I mean, it

1173
00:55:55,090 --> 00:55:58,090
made sense. I mean that that whole thing made sense as

1174
00:55:58,090 --> 00:56:00,920
far as that, as far as where, where they landed with

1175
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,840
that scene and, and the decisions. And I believe you know, and I

1176
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,840
believed it because he really is that. That ex. That. That other

1177
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,840
character. And I really like the moments that Richie

1178
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,450
and Sydney had throughout the season. Like, you know, again, the

1179
00:56:12,450 --> 00:56:15,410
wedding, you know, he's out there having panic attacks prior to.

1180
00:56:15,410 --> 00:56:18,210
Prior to Tiff's wedding and, and you

1181
00:56:18,210 --> 00:56:21,110
know, you know, quoting Philip a dick and everything and

1182
00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:24,150
quotes and it's just. But, you know, you know,

1183
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:27,030
thank instead for being there and then. And just other.

1184
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:29,950
You know, they just all really. They are like. Like

1185
00:56:29,950 --> 00:56:32,630
you said, they really are family. Family. Not just work family.

1186
00:56:34,550 --> 00:56:37,270
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's the.

1187
00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:38,790
With Richie this season,

1188
00:56:40,070 --> 00:56:42,150
through him, through Tiff

1189
00:56:43,350 --> 00:56:46,030
Tiffany, who is his ex wife,

1190
00:56:46,670 --> 00:56:49,630
who then her own mom doesn't

1191
00:56:49,630 --> 00:56:52,550
go to her wedding. None of her family goes to the wedding. Who

1192
00:56:52,550 --> 00:56:55,230
goes to the wedding? The brazados. But

1193
00:56:55,550 --> 00:56:58,310
when we say the brazados, we don't forget the

1194
00:56:58,310 --> 00:57:01,070
facts. Facts are there too. Don't forget

1195
00:57:01,150 --> 00:57:03,990
all of these other people. I mean, Marcus even

1196
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:06,830
attends when he's the guest of someone

1197
00:57:06,830 --> 00:57:09,660
else who, who, Frank fired

1198
00:57:09,660 --> 00:57:11,860
and Frank is Tiffany's new husband.

1199
00:57:12,340 --> 00:57:13,780
So. And, and

1200
00:57:15,940 --> 00:57:18,340
I think they did such a good job

1201
00:57:19,060 --> 00:57:21,620
this season, particularly

1202
00:57:22,340 --> 00:57:24,740
about the Brazo family tree,

1203
00:57:24,980 --> 00:57:27,860
because we hear about it in

1204
00:57:27,860 --> 00:57:29,780
the wedding episode when

1205
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:32,940
Claire and I forget his

1206
00:57:32,940 --> 00:57:35,540
name. One of the. The person

1207
00:57:35,540 --> 00:57:38,020
who's married to Sarah Paulson's character.

1208
00:57:38,630 --> 00:57:39,190
>> Will: Stevie.

1209
00:57:39,590 --> 00:57:42,100
>> Sarah : Stevie are, telling Frank

1210
00:57:43,940 --> 00:57:44,980
the family tree.

1211
00:57:45,460 --> 00:57:46,020
>> Will: Yep.

1212
00:57:46,260 --> 00:57:48,980
>> Sarah : Who people are. And it's

1213
00:57:48,980 --> 00:57:51,780
just. And. And you have to realize

1214
00:57:51,860 --> 00:57:53,540
Claire isn't a part of the family.

1215
00:57:54,260 --> 00:57:54,820
>> Will: Nope.

1216
00:57:55,220 --> 00:57:58,070
>> Sarah : And. And as. As, as Stevie

1217
00:57:58,070 --> 00:58:01,070
likes to point out, he's married into it

1218
00:58:01,470 --> 00:58:04,150
through like a second cousin adopted

1219
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:06,910
twice removed. And then you have Richie

1220
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,160
and, and, And Tiff,

1221
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,040
who Tiffany herself, like her

1222
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,280
dance with Uncle Jimmy.

1223
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,960
It's so sweet because he,

1224
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,520
he again in that moment,

1225
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,560
basically reassures her that, like, it

1226
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,280
doesn't matter if you are no longer married to

1227
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,200
Richie. I mean, Richie's not even a part of our family

1228
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:31,840
either.

1229
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:32,800
>> Will: Yeah.

1230
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,720
>> Sarah : For some reason we've adopted all of

1231
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,640
these people. And. And then later

1232
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,600
you get. You get Jessica throughout

1233
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,560
the season inquiring about who people are.

1234
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,800
There's a great moment wherein Natalie brings

1235
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,840
Sophie into the kitchen. And,

1236
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,880
there's conversations about attending the wedding and

1237
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,560
all of these name drops and the. There's some

1238
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,280
employees who don't know that. Who these

1239
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,760
people are. And there's others who's like, yeah,

1240
00:59:02,270 --> 00:59:05,190
that's the second cousin of this person twice

1241
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:07,550
removed. And it's.

1242
00:59:10,030 --> 00:59:12,910
It is a family. Family, but it's

1243
00:59:12,910 --> 00:59:15,150
just the world,

1244
00:59:15,630 --> 00:59:16,270
you know?

1245
00:59:16,830 --> 00:59:17,230
>> Will: Yeah.

1246
00:59:17,230 --> 00:59:19,990
>> Sarah : And, And I can. I think why

1247
00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:22,670
I like it so much is I honestly

1248
00:59:22,670 --> 00:59:25,670
don't know the details. Like, it's this weird

1249
00:59:25,670 --> 00:59:28,430
thing where, where I

1250
00:59:28,430 --> 00:59:30,960
see. Still haven't really gotten the full

1251
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,920
PowerPoint on exactly who these

1252
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,880
people are, nor do I care.

1253
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,560
>> Will: Yeah. Oh, I m. I see. And for me, it's just like,

1254
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,200
I, I, this is like my family. I have.

1255
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,520
Whenever they're like, I hear uncle so and so, auntie

1256
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,480
so and so, or, you know, and growing

1257
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,440
up, the same kind of thing like that. How was so and so related?

1258
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,160
So, well, no, you know, they may not even be blood or they'd be

1259
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,010
married in or whatever. But I mean, it, it's so, for me,

1260
00:59:57,010 --> 00:59:59,970
it's just so relatable because it's just like, oh, yeah, I, I know

1261
00:59:59,970 --> 01:00:02,850
this. And you probably have, you know, maybe the same situation in your family,

1262
01:00:02,850 --> 01:00:05,690
but not really. Okay. Yeah, but I do.

1263
01:00:05,770 --> 01:00:08,620
And it's, it's like, I get it. So, to me,

1264
01:00:08,620 --> 01:00:11,540
that. I think that's another thing that makes the show work. You know, it is

1265
01:00:11,540 --> 01:00:14,420
relatable to, like, people. People we know in real

1266
01:00:14,420 --> 01:00:14,740
life.

1267
01:00:15,460 --> 01:00:16,260
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah.

1268
01:00:16,260 --> 01:00:19,140
>> Will: And, and the craziness, because I have had the fam. I've

1269
01:00:19,140 --> 01:00:21,060
had. I've had like, the presardo.

1270
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,360
Bizarro. Bizarro. Bizarro.

1271
01:00:25,460 --> 01:00:27,070
>> Sarah : sounds, like you're saying bizarro.

1272
01:00:27,150 --> 01:00:30,150
>> Will: Yeah, I did say bizarro. Yeah. Because, yeah, it

1273
01:00:30,150 --> 01:00:32,830
is that the bear family like, dynamics and stuff,

1274
01:00:33,470 --> 01:00:35,870
and family get togethers that, like,

1275
01:00:36,350 --> 01:00:39,350
devolve into that. I've been around it, so I completely get

1276
01:00:39,350 --> 01:00:39,630
it.

1277
01:00:40,270 --> 01:00:43,070
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So you understand

1278
01:00:43,310 --> 01:00:46,220
what happened between Natalie and, Francie

1279
01:00:46,450 --> 01:00:47,170
Fact. Right?

1280
01:00:47,330 --> 01:00:48,340
>> Will: Hell, I don't.

1281
01:00:49,140 --> 01:00:51,620
>> Sarah : Yeah, I don't. You know what?

1282
01:00:52,020 --> 01:00:54,540
I'm. I, I do think I have more of an

1283
01:00:54,540 --> 01:00:56,020
understanding than Pete does.

1284
01:00:56,740 --> 01:00:57,300
>> Will: Yep.

1285
01:00:57,620 --> 01:01:00,420
>> Sarah : The moment Pete's like, you slept together,

1286
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:05,060
like. Okay. But. But I

1287
01:01:05,060 --> 01:01:08,020
love that there was such a buildup. And also shout

1288
01:01:08,020 --> 01:01:10,900
out to Bri Larson, as you mentioned earlier,

1289
01:01:11,380 --> 01:01:13,690
that they, they did get

1290
01:01:14,170 --> 01:01:16,970
some really good, like, the guest stars

1291
01:01:16,970 --> 01:01:19,610
worked this season more so than last season.

1292
01:01:20,330 --> 01:01:23,260
And, and she. I, I was not

1293
01:01:23,260 --> 01:01:24,140
expecting her.

1294
01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:25,580
>> Will: Nope, me neither.

1295
01:01:25,820 --> 01:01:28,580
>> Sarah : She did not stick out. Because if you were

1296
01:01:28,580 --> 01:01:31,580
gonna. I mean, we've seen that. Who's the

1297
01:01:31,980 --> 01:01:34,860
Rosado girl? So, of course, if we're

1298
01:01:34,860 --> 01:01:37,860
gonna meet the female version of fac. Yeah, I think she did

1299
01:01:37,860 --> 01:01:38,700
a pretty good job.

1300
01:01:39,070 --> 01:01:39,790
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.

1301
01:01:39,950 --> 01:01:42,710
>> Sarah : And. And that moment

1302
01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:45,500
when Neil, ah, tells, Natalie

1303
01:01:46,460 --> 01:01:48,140
who he invited to the wedding.

1304
01:01:48,620 --> 01:01:49,180
>> Will: Yep.

1305
01:01:49,900 --> 01:01:52,700
>> Sarah : You will always be my sweet boy. Oh,

1306
01:01:52,700 --> 01:01:55,660
you did that I hate you. You have ruined me.

1307
01:02:03,500 --> 01:02:04,380
No, go ahead.

1308
01:02:05,090 --> 01:02:07,810
>> Will: No, I was gonna say it was worth the facts me. Every time I'm like,

1309
01:02:07,810 --> 01:02:10,780
why? You know, sometimes they grade on me, but then it's just like they

1310
01:02:10,780 --> 01:02:13,420
have these moments like that one that you just shared. But why, why,

1311
01:02:13,420 --> 01:02:15,180
why? You need to have a facts around.

1312
01:02:16,780 --> 01:02:19,700
And also, and also the funny. You know, you have the,

1313
01:02:19,700 --> 01:02:22,420
the, the facts like, you know,

1314
01:02:22,420 --> 01:02:24,620
Neil and then he had the facts like,

1315
01:02:25,180 --> 01:02:27,620
like Frankie and Fanny,

1316
01:02:27,620 --> 01:02:30,620
Franny and as seen us. But you know, who was

1317
01:02:30,620 --> 01:02:31,020
the other.

1318
01:02:33,590 --> 01:02:33,950
Yep.

1319
01:02:33,950 --> 01:02:36,840
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, Sammy. And then you have Teddy.

1320
01:02:37,790 --> 01:02:40,750
Teddy, who's the main one who we saw a lot more

1321
01:02:40,830 --> 01:02:43,690
this season in particular. but Neil,

1322
01:02:43,690 --> 01:02:46,410
even towards the end, he admits

1323
01:02:46,970 --> 01:02:49,850
that because he's getting kind of

1324
01:02:49,850 --> 01:02:52,690
promoted to a stage in front

1325
01:02:52,690 --> 01:02:55,500
of House. And he. He does a weird thing

1326
01:02:55,500 --> 01:02:58,350
when he walks with his hands and he

1327
01:02:58,350 --> 01:03:01,310
acknowledges to Richie is like this place is

1328
01:03:01,310 --> 01:03:04,110
fans fancy. and

1329
01:03:04,110 --> 01:03:06,750
I'm not there. There's also a

1330
01:03:06,750 --> 01:03:09,750
theme of all these people

1331
01:03:10,230 --> 01:03:13,070
not feeling goody self good, good enough

1332
01:03:13,070 --> 01:03:15,750
for it. Whether it be the kitchen,

1333
01:03:15,910 --> 01:03:18,870
whether it be the work family or the family. Family.

1334
01:03:19,510 --> 01:03:19,990
>> Will: Yeah.

1335
01:03:20,470 --> 01:03:23,230
>> Sarah : And that, that's the epitome of what

1336
01:03:23,230 --> 01:03:26,010
Carmy. And why Carmy is running away

1337
01:03:26,010 --> 01:03:28,810
again is because he doesn't feel good enough. Which is

1338
01:03:28,810 --> 01:03:31,650
bizarre because as we

1339
01:03:31,650 --> 01:03:34,530
pointed out and discussed, like, he helped

1340
01:03:34,530 --> 01:03:37,530
get these people to where they are and

1341
01:03:37,690 --> 01:03:40,530
he, like, he's created this thing and now he just

1342
01:03:40,530 --> 01:03:43,370
wants to walk away. But at the same

1343
01:03:43,370 --> 01:03:46,250
time, I also am like, if you got some to deal with,

1344
01:03:46,250 --> 01:03:48,170
you gotta go deal with that or else.

1345
01:03:48,890 --> 01:03:49,450
>> Will: Yeah.

1346
01:03:49,930 --> 01:03:52,410
>> Sarah : Like, I, I can also sympathize because

1347
01:03:52,930 --> 01:03:55,890
I, I feel like with

1348
01:03:55,890 --> 01:03:58,690
a lot of the brazado,

1349
01:03:58,690 --> 01:04:00,690
like even the family tree, we,

1350
01:04:01,570 --> 01:04:04,290
we only know so much about

1351
01:04:04,370 --> 01:04:06,850
the childhood trauma that

1352
01:04:06,850 --> 01:04:09,560
occurred. and, and borderline

1353
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,400
abuse that occurred. So,

1354
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,800
like, there it is.

1355
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:18,920
It's kind of like I understand,

1356
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,120
but it don't appreciate.

1357
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:24,560
Don't appreciate.

1358
01:04:27,170 --> 01:04:29,150
yeah. Like,

1359
01:04:29,870 --> 01:04:31,920
like overall, for me,

1360
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,040
as you. As you might have guessed, the finale is my favorite

1361
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,720
episode of the season. I, I do

1362
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,520
appre. The wedding. It's hard. The

1363
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,290
Bears Episode 7, I go back and forth

1364
01:04:44,290 --> 01:04:46,770
on because I,

1365
01:04:47,090 --> 01:04:49,890
I. It's not fishes 2.0 for me.

1366
01:04:50,130 --> 01:04:51,810
It really is. It's not.

1367
01:04:52,370 --> 01:04:52,930
>> Will: Nope.

1368
01:04:53,810 --> 01:04:56,730
>> Sarah : But. And there are pieces I

1369
01:04:56,730 --> 01:04:59,290
really like. There's just something about the

1370
01:04:59,290 --> 01:04:59,970
pacing.

1371
01:05:00,370 --> 01:05:01,250
>> Will: It dragged.

1372
01:05:02,450 --> 01:05:05,330
>> Sarah : It drags. It is

1373
01:05:05,330 --> 01:05:07,890
a long episode and it feels like a long

1374
01:05:07,890 --> 01:05:10,140
episode. And,

1375
01:05:10,540 --> 01:05:13,390
and so I, don't know. I

1376
01:05:13,390 --> 01:05:15,190
go back and forth. But

1377
01:05:16,150 --> 01:05:19,030
yeah, I, I think I'm just biased

1378
01:05:19,270 --> 01:05:22,030
given that last week when we're talking about

1379
01:05:22,030 --> 01:05:24,870
Superman, I put out into the universe that

1380
01:05:25,430 --> 01:05:28,310
I can watch like a two hour movie of just two

1381
01:05:28,310 --> 01:05:30,630
people having an intense conversation.

1382
01:05:32,070 --> 01:05:34,550
Fast forward to the Bear season finale.

1383
01:05:35,270 --> 01:05:37,870
We had. We had three people have an

1384
01:05:37,870 --> 01:05:40,750
intense conversation and I was, I was here for

1385
01:05:40,750 --> 01:05:43,710
it. Granted, it was also the shortest episode of the

1386
01:05:43,710 --> 01:05:46,190
season. So I was also like, okay,

1387
01:05:46,670 --> 01:05:47,230
yeah,

1388
01:05:49,490 --> 01:05:52,360
but. And, and this isn't my favorite,

1389
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,520
season of the Bear. I don't think anything will

1390
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,360
ever top season two for me. But

1391
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:02,640
I did. I did a. Two things

1392
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,800
happened when I finished the first time.

1393
01:06:05,590 --> 01:06:07,590
I immediately wanted to start over again.

1394
01:06:08,660 --> 01:06:11,580
and I also was like, ah, ah, I wish I had time to go

1395
01:06:11,580 --> 01:06:13,140
back and watch season three again.

1396
01:06:15,300 --> 01:06:17,540
Because it tells me something

1397
01:06:17,940 --> 01:06:20,580
when by the end of the season I'm like,

1398
01:06:20,820 --> 01:06:23,820
I just want to hang out with these people some more. There's

1399
01:06:23,820 --> 01:06:26,820
something about being in this world that I enjoy,

1400
01:06:27,540 --> 01:06:29,980
so I just want to be here in a little bit

1401
01:06:29,980 --> 01:06:30,580
longer.

1402
01:06:33,060 --> 01:06:33,340
>> Will: Totally.

1403
01:06:33,340 --> 01:06:33,780
>> Sarah : Yeah.

1404
01:06:34,020 --> 01:06:36,940
>> Will: Yeah. I mean, because. I mean, because that's, you know, there's so many other.

1405
01:06:36,940 --> 01:06:39,700
There's other things like, happened this season too, like, you know, such

1406
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:42,180
payoffs with, with these characters like Marcus.

1407
01:06:42,580 --> 01:06:45,420
I mean, we haven't even talked talk, you know, this all, you

1408
01:06:45,420 --> 01:06:47,780
know, the whole, you know,

1409
01:06:48,340 --> 01:06:51,180
him being the, you know, name best new

1410
01:06:51,180 --> 01:06:54,110
chef by, Food and Wine magazine. I thought that was just, you know, and

1411
01:06:54,110 --> 01:06:57,039
just. And also, just like. And also his family drama. I mean,

1412
01:06:57,039 --> 01:06:59,919
because, you know, he kept texting his dad through. I think it was his

1413
01:06:59,919 --> 01:07:02,879
dad throughout the season about, you know, they were supposed to meet up and they

1414
01:07:02,879 --> 01:07:05,239
didn't, you know, he goes through the, he goes to the

1415
01:07:05,399 --> 01:07:08,199
cafe and then, you know, he, he bells.

1416
01:07:09,559 --> 01:07:12,399
and, and so, you know, so he's, you know, he's

1417
01:07:12,399 --> 01:07:14,919
got some, you know, unfinished business with, you know, with,

1418
01:07:15,079 --> 01:07:18,049
with, with his, that and also the whole, you

1419
01:07:18,049 --> 01:07:21,049
know, side story with his mom's house being sold and, and

1420
01:07:21,049 --> 01:07:23,940
his, you know, friend, you know, and the bad. And the,

1421
01:07:23,940 --> 01:07:26,820
the juju that was like, you know, the stories about

1422
01:07:26,820 --> 01:07:29,720
how, you know, homes being sold and, and

1423
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,720
you know, does that create bad juju, you know, as far as talk about

1424
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,320
family and transition.

1425
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:38,600
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. I was just gonna

1426
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,280
say his, interactions

1427
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,360
or lack thereof with his father is very

1428
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,320
similar to how Carmi's been avoiding his mother for

1429
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,210
all these years. So,

1430
01:07:50,090 --> 01:07:52,610
so they, they parallel that very

1431
01:07:52,610 --> 01:07:55,410
nicely. His also his best

1432
01:07:55,410 --> 01:07:57,450
friend having a very awkward

1433
01:07:58,090 --> 01:08:00,699
encounter with Luca. which.

1434
01:08:00,699 --> 01:08:03,589
But again, it's, And I Don't know his

1435
01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:05,429
friend's name. Off the top of my head,

1436
01:08:06,229 --> 01:08:08,789
he. That character was

1437
01:08:09,349 --> 01:08:11,909
honestly also kind of being like.

1438
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:16,049
Like, Sid's cousin, where you're

1439
01:08:16,049 --> 01:08:16,889
leaving me behind.

1440
01:08:17,849 --> 01:08:18,329
>> Will: Yeah.

1441
01:08:18,649 --> 01:08:21,649
>> Sarah : Like, I used to. I used to be the one where

1442
01:08:21,649 --> 01:08:24,529
you would have. And. And so you can see how

1443
01:08:24,529 --> 01:08:27,449
this new family and the growth

1444
01:08:27,449 --> 01:08:30,369
that these characters have. Have

1445
01:08:30,369 --> 01:08:33,289
caused friction with the relationships

1446
01:08:33,289 --> 01:08:36,089
that they had with others before who

1447
01:08:36,329 --> 01:08:38,249
are not on the same journey.

1448
01:08:39,139 --> 01:08:39,459
>> Will: Yeah.

1449
01:08:39,939 --> 01:08:42,739
>> Sarah : Which. And. And it's. And it's kind of like,

1450
01:08:43,619 --> 01:08:46,499
well, duh, people are

1451
01:08:46,499 --> 01:08:49,419
gonna grow. And. And also to them, like, he

1452
01:08:49,419 --> 01:08:51,699
has a very. Marcus has a very similar

1453
01:08:51,779 --> 01:08:54,769
reaction to when he, His friend says,

1454
01:08:54,769 --> 01:08:57,289
yeah, you guys want to go to hoots afterwards?

1455
01:08:58,039 --> 01:09:00,539
but it's like, okay, maybe.

1456
01:09:01,179 --> 01:09:04,039
If. But for Marcus, it's

1457
01:09:04,039 --> 01:09:06,839
just like, I'm gonna. I'm still. I'm doing

1458
01:09:06,839 --> 01:09:09,719
my job. You're still my friend. Nothing's changed. But

1459
01:09:09,799 --> 01:09:12,719
to his friend, it's like, you're leaving me

1460
01:09:12,719 --> 01:09:13,399
in the dust.

1461
01:09:13,879 --> 01:09:14,279
>> Will: Yeah.

1462
01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:16,539
>> Sarah : And so it's,

1463
01:09:18,159 --> 01:09:21,149
It's, An interesting side note to

1464
01:09:21,149 --> 01:09:24,079
put out there, in terms of.

1465
01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:26,949
As we head into a new season. So.

1466
01:09:27,019 --> 01:09:29,499
So. And I know that people watch this season

1467
01:09:30,059 --> 01:09:32,859
without that knowledge that there would be a season five.

1468
01:09:33,019 --> 01:09:35,579
I don't know. I guess I was like one of,

1469
01:09:36,619 --> 01:09:39,339
like, in the minority when I just thought of season

1470
01:09:39,339 --> 01:09:40,699
five would be automatic.

1471
01:09:42,059 --> 01:09:42,539
>> Will: Yeah,

1472
01:09:45,739 --> 01:09:48,539
yeah, yeah. I remember whenever I broke the news,

1473
01:09:48,729 --> 01:09:51,609
you know, it broke right before. I think we recorded

1474
01:09:51,609 --> 01:09:54,079
that, that the show had been renewed because.

1475
01:09:54,239 --> 01:09:57,129
And, Like, of course it did. And I was like, no, no, it

1476
01:09:57,129 --> 01:10:00,089
was like, not. You know, and we. We had a whole discussion about whether

1477
01:10:00,089 --> 01:10:03,009
or not, you know, the reasons why

1478
01:10:03,969 --> 01:10:06,779
it was not a given that season, five was going to happen.

1479
01:10:07,219 --> 01:10:10,089
but, One last thing I want to just hit at too, as far as,

1480
01:10:10,449 --> 01:10:11,489
When you talked about,

1481
01:10:13,849 --> 01:10:16,729
paths of characters and stuff and is Ibrahim

1482
01:10:16,729 --> 01:10:19,729
story. Because the whole thing that sort of kicked off

1483
01:10:19,729 --> 01:10:22,569
this season two, what. You know, which was the big

1484
01:10:22,569 --> 01:10:25,529
over. The big thing hanging over the restaurant was the bad

1485
01:10:25,529 --> 01:10:28,129
review from, you know, the mixed review, I guess, from Chicago

1486
01:10:28,369 --> 01:10:30,769
Tribune, where, you know,

1487
01:10:31,489 --> 01:10:34,489
with. As far as the. The. The. The bear part

1488
01:10:34,489 --> 01:10:37,369
of the restaurant having, you

1489
01:10:37,369 --> 01:10:40,369
know, all over the place just like army. But the,

1490
01:10:40,369 --> 01:10:43,369
But the. The. But the. The lunch counter. The beef, you

1491
01:10:43,369 --> 01:10:46,129
know, was. Was really, you know,

1492
01:10:46,129 --> 01:10:48,689
was. They had great things to say about it.

1493
01:10:49,169 --> 01:10:52,129
And. And one thing I really appreciate about this show is each

1494
01:10:52,129 --> 01:10:54,769
season, you know, they. They do focus

1495
01:10:55,009 --> 01:10:57,889
on the. As an ensemble. So

1496
01:10:57,889 --> 01:11:00,889
everybody, like last Season, you know, had Tina's, you know, you

1497
01:11:00,889 --> 01:11:03,849
know, whole story backstory as far as like how she and

1498
01:11:03,849 --> 01:11:06,849
Mikey, you know, met and you know, after she lost her

1499
01:11:06,849 --> 01:11:09,809
job and you know, and she had. How she ended up at the Beef

1500
01:11:09,809 --> 01:11:12,479
and you know, you know, the summer, I can't remember,

1501
01:11:12,729 --> 01:11:14,609
was it sweets Sweet is the

1502
01:11:14,559 --> 01:11:16,439
>> Sarah : I think so. I think so.

1503
01:11:16,839 --> 01:11:19,759
>> Will: Yeah. You know, his, his story this season as

1504
01:11:19,759 --> 01:11:22,559
far as just like learning more. Marcus of course going off, you know,

1505
01:11:22,559 --> 01:11:25,359
learning from Luca and this season was Ibrahim and the

1506
01:11:25,359 --> 01:11:28,279
whole like, you know, meeting up with Al

1507
01:11:28,759 --> 01:11:31,709
to have you know, start talking

1508
01:11:31,709 --> 01:11:34,549
about franchising the lunch counter and, and

1509
01:11:34,629 --> 01:11:37,469
it's like how even in

1510
01:11:37,469 --> 01:11:40,429
even one of the big. The, the. The the the. The. The

1511
01:11:40,429 --> 01:11:43,389
fancy part of the restaurant was in the

1512
01:11:43,389 --> 01:11:46,189
red, you know, the, the, the. The lunch

1513
01:11:46,189 --> 01:11:48,549
takeout was successful and,

1514
01:11:49,429 --> 01:11:52,269
and you know, was, was helping to, you know, really carry

1515
01:11:52,269 --> 01:11:55,149
things along to the point that, you know, at the end computer

1516
01:11:55,149 --> 01:11:58,149
and Al had this conversation and they were like, you know,

1517
01:11:58,789 --> 01:12:01,539
let's, let's, let's talk, even. And, and

1518
01:12:01,539 --> 01:12:04,379
even. And so, you know, so that, that was,

1519
01:12:04,379 --> 01:12:07,179
that's another thing I do appreciate about this show is like, you

1520
01:12:07,179 --> 01:12:09,979
know, it truly isn't like an ensemble show and even the

1521
01:12:11,799 --> 01:12:13,959
have you know, real

1522
01:12:14,759 --> 01:12:17,639
significant arcs in their journey. So

1523
01:12:17,639 --> 01:12:20,559
that like, to, to your point, I do want to spend time

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01:12:20,559 --> 01:12:23,359
with these folks, even if it takes me a minute to get back into this

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01:12:23,359 --> 01:12:26,239
world at the beginning of the season. By the end of the

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01:12:26,239 --> 01:12:28,839
season I'm like, damn, I want more. I want more.

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01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,359
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah, no, no, I, I

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01:12:32,359 --> 01:12:35,109
agree. It's, it's the. When you say

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ensemble to me, it's just

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01:12:37,949 --> 01:12:40,629
equates to what we always talk about, like the

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01:12:40,629 --> 01:12:42,909
supporting cast. Their,

1532
01:12:43,629 --> 01:12:44,029
their

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01:12:46,649 --> 01:12:49,369
their arcs are just

1534
01:12:49,449 --> 01:12:52,009
as. Are not these

1535
01:12:52,329 --> 01:12:55,289
weird side stories. No,

1536
01:12:55,289 --> 01:12:57,529
they ah, they, they. There's a reason

1537
01:12:59,289 --> 01:13:02,079
there, there's something at the root of, of

1538
01:13:02,079 --> 01:13:04,999
the main character arc that

1539
01:13:04,999 --> 01:13:07,999
is occurring that it's connected

1540
01:13:07,999 --> 01:13:10,559
to. Sometimes it feels a bit loose, but,

1541
01:13:10,719 --> 01:13:13,719
but the Bear runs a pretty tight shift and I

1542
01:13:13,719 --> 01:13:16,609
mean the fact that the what

1543
01:13:16,609 --> 01:13:19,409
Abraham has been running successfully

1544
01:13:19,409 --> 01:13:21,929
is basically Michael's business.

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01:13:22,649 --> 01:13:23,209
>> Will: Yeah.

1546
01:13:23,289 --> 01:13:25,289
>> Sarah : Two hours of the day.

1547
01:13:25,929 --> 01:13:28,709
Like there's a strong connection there.

1548
01:13:28,709 --> 01:13:31,069
And I'd. We don't know if

1549
01:13:31,149 --> 01:13:34,109
Carmy and Natalie are going to be as on

1550
01:13:34,109 --> 01:13:36,989
board with the idea of Abraham taking that and

1551
01:13:36,989 --> 01:13:39,919
running away with it. like,

1552
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,399
yeah, Abraham may be creating an opportunity,

1553
01:13:43,399 --> 01:13:46,359
but is he stealing a

1554
01:13:46,359 --> 01:13:47,999
family recipe? I don't know.

1555
01:13:49,839 --> 01:13:52,789
So, so it's I, I can also

1556
01:13:52,789 --> 01:13:55,529
appreciate how like

1557
01:13:55,529 --> 01:13:58,409
thank God this wasn't the last season because in a

1558
01:13:58,409 --> 01:14:00,969
way they left a lot open there.

1559
01:14:02,009 --> 01:14:04,969
This isn't a. Let me tie every single

1560
01:14:05,129 --> 01:14:07,849
threat. I mean they tied the ones that they needed to.

1561
01:14:07,849 --> 01:14:10,609
Sid made a decision and so did Carmy.

1562
01:14:10,609 --> 01:14:13,449
But Carmes is a bit. It's Carmy.

1563
01:14:13,449 --> 01:14:16,019
So bit wishy washy there. So

1564
01:14:16,899 --> 01:14:19,789
yeah, I'm. This season was

1565
01:14:19,789 --> 01:14:21,399
successful success for me.

1566
01:14:22,509 --> 01:14:25,269
brings me. Brought me back around for sure. For

1567
01:14:25,269 --> 01:14:28,149
sure on this show. I will probably end

1568
01:14:28,149 --> 01:14:30,949
up re. Watching the series at some

1569
01:14:30,949 --> 01:14:32,429
point later this year, but.

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01:14:32,989 --> 01:14:33,579
>> Will: Agreed.

1571
01:14:35,019 --> 01:14:37,859
>> Sarah : all right, well on that note, Will,

1572
01:14:37,859 --> 01:14:40,379
why don't you tell our listeners where they can find you?

1573
01:14:41,019 --> 01:14:41,499
>> Will: Yes.

1574
01:14:43,259 --> 01:14:46,219
>> Sarah : And drop the information about the Comic

1575
01:14:46,219 --> 01:14:49,039
Con live streams that you're going to be doing this

1576
01:14:49,039 --> 01:14:49,519
weekend.

1577
01:14:50,239 --> 01:14:52,979
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. So, as I noted, Comic Con

1578
01:14:52,979 --> 01:14:55,979
is this weekend and Saturday I'm going

1579
01:14:55,979 --> 01:14:58,549
to be doing a live stream of the Star

1580
01:14:58,549 --> 01:15:01,539
Trek hall each presentation.

1581
01:15:01,809 --> 01:15:04,539
you know, live reaction to it. they're gonna have

1582
01:15:04,779 --> 01:15:07,779
casted a Strange New World seats on the. On

1583
01:15:07,779 --> 01:15:10,489
the panel as well as the upcoming Starfleet

1584
01:15:10,489 --> 01:15:13,089
Academy show. So I definitely, definitely anticipate

1585
01:15:13,819 --> 01:15:16,799
probably some. Some teaser trailers for Strange

1586
01:15:17,389 --> 01:15:20,269
for Starfleet Academy which will premiere next year.

1587
01:15:20,909 --> 01:15:23,729
And also you know, as I joked earlier,

1588
01:15:24,849 --> 01:15:27,689
Star Star Trek panel and the paradise panel run up

1589
01:15:27,689 --> 01:15:30,169
against each other. So I'll have to like, you know,

1590
01:15:30,249 --> 01:15:33,209
I'll talk about it. For season two, we did get a.

1591
01:15:34,009 --> 01:15:36,799
A photo from some images of season two of

1592
01:15:36,799 --> 01:15:39,579
paradise, today from Entertainment Weekly.

1593
01:15:40,059 --> 01:15:42,979
And then last, going to also

1594
01:15:43,059 --> 01:15:45,539
try to live stream the Peacemaker

1595
01:15:45,629 --> 01:15:48,449
panel since they will have They. They will

1596
01:15:48,449 --> 01:15:51,209
also have a Hall H presentation as

1597
01:15:51,539 --> 01:15:54,359
on Saturday as well. So just

1598
01:15:54,729 --> 01:15:57,649
I'll. I'll have the

1599
01:15:57,649 --> 01:16:00,379
links up for those. So you just come to our.

1600
01:16:00,619 --> 01:16:03,559
To our. Our YouTube channel to. To join me

1601
01:16:03,559 --> 01:16:06,529
in the live stream and and we can all react to all

1602
01:16:06,529 --> 01:16:08,369
the, all the news from Comic Con.

1603
01:16:09,809 --> 01:16:12,539
>> Sarah : Very cool. and where can our

1604
01:16:12,539 --> 01:16:13,779
listeners find you, Will?

1605
01:16:14,339 --> 01:16:17,059
>> Will: Yes, you can find me on all the socials at. Ah Will

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01:16:17,059 --> 01:16:19,819
M. Polk W I L L M M P O L L.

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01:16:19,819 --> 01:16:22,539
>> Sarah : K and you can find me there too at SJ

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01:16:22,539 --> 01:16:25,379
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01:16:30,989 --> 01:16:33,789
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1612
01:16:33,869 --> 01:16:36,249
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01:16:36,529 --> 01:16:39,229
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1614
01:16:39,309 --> 01:16:41,879
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1616
01:16:44,718 --> 01:16:45,559
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1617
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>> Will: It.