Spider-Man Brand New Day "Navigating Loss" — Peter Parker's Struggles, Frank Castle's Humor, and the Power of Connection

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>> Sarah : Foreign. What did you think about Spider Man?

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Brand new day.

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>> Will: Yeah. So as far as Spider Man, Brand new day. I

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have to say I was. I really really, enjoyed this

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movie. It was Tom Holland. It is Spider man now. I

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was. Of course. I really enjoyed Toby Maguire

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Spider Man. That was as far as live action. But I

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feel like. And I said this in my, out of the

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theater thoughts about, about the movie. Tom

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really has like, we've seen this character go from

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like teenage Spider man to now young adult Spider

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man. And I really feel like we've been going on

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the journey with this character and it's been

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since, you know, it's been like what, four years,

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I think since no Way Home Real time, so. Or

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thereabouts. So it was welcome to see him back.

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And I just really thought that seeing re.

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Encountering Peter now, dealing with the. After

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the impacts of what happened after no Way Home

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with everybody, you know, forgetting him and

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trying and him, you know, basically being a full,

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full time Spider man. It was his only point of

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contact is like the police officer and Frank. It

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was really, really cool to see that and also just

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sort of seeing the lessons that he had to come and

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understand about how we're all in this together as

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far as like, you know, throughout this. those are

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some of my initial thoughts as far as the film.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, this movie. Everybody's saying similar

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things to what Will has just said. I had this

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similar experience with this movie. So I'm not

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gonna harp too much on my overall thoughts about

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it. I will say, that Tom Holland aside, this is

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the most they have given Zendaya. he had so much

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more to do in this movie than the three previous

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movies combined. And you really saw when, when

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Jean was controlling her, FYI. Ah. This is a

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spoiler review, of course.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Granted, like, maybe five people have not watched

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this movie yet, but yeah, it's like.

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>> Will: Well, it was like not always $900 million. It's

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already up close to a billion dollars already

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after one weekend. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Surpass Infinity War.

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>> Will: Yes. Yes.

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>> Sarah : It's number two. It didn't reach endgame, but it's

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one number. Number two.

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>> Will: I think it did pass in game.

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>> Sarah : Well then what's number one? Because it's not

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number one.

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>> Will: No, no, no. As far as. As far as domestic, I think

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it did cross in game this week after we were.

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>> Sarah : Anyways, we're not. We're clearly not box office

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people, so. Yeah. So having so much to do in this

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movie really impressed me. And then, you know, you

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know how in the previous House of Dragon episode,

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I was just saying how I. I like will admit when

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I'm wrong, but I love even more admitting when I'm

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right. And I was so right about John Bernthal, and

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his chemistry with Tom Holland is just too good.

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It's too good. I mean, I don't care that. Yeah,

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they. It definitely tampered down Frank. This is

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the lightest we have ever seen Frank in the mcu,

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but we already got the dark stuff, so why not give

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us the comedic stuff? The. Why not give us the big

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brother and the old man who clearly doesn't know

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when he's out of his. Yeah, he does. And he

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doesn't. Because when he's. When they were going

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up against the Hulk, it was kind of like, yeah, I

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need you to go over there because I've realized

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that I just shot the Hulk, and I don't think he's

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too happy with me right now. So I need you to take

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care of it. Meanwhile, later, he has to get told

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by. Well, no, it's this, She tells him to go and

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help Peter out, but still he. He finds himself

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trying to figure out a way to help Peter at the

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end. But. And this is something I've heard from a

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lot of comic book readers about Frank and the

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Avengers and just always getting in the way and

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just always being like, oh, Frank, so glad you're

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here. But not really. So. I really like that. And

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it's so funny you brought up some of the older

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movies and the older franchises, because this

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character is just continues to get readapted and

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everything.

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And over the years, we've. We've talked a lot

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about the Rogues Gallery.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : And how much of a presence. Like, it's a good

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thing for these characters to have a rogue

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gallery. And then it gets. When they're bringing

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it to live action, it's like, oh, my God. What.

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Why are you putting so many. So many rogues in. I

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feel like, in a way, they have the opposite

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problem with this move. And problem is in the

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right word. I mean, this was very fascinating to

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watch in the sense of. Of this is the most. Peter

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Parker, like, changing, growing, maturing as a

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character that we've seen probably in any Spider

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man live action movie.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : And yet it had Frank Castle. There was a Hulk

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moment. Like, Bruce Banner is. Plays a very

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important role in this movie. You get Jean Gray,

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we. And we get DeWolf. We get Yelena. Okay. Yelena

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again. Another thing I'm always right about.

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Florence Pugh. Okay. She. She brings it and I

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just. I find that very interesting that they.

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This. This universe, this world is very live, yet

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the story itself is very small.

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>> Will: Yeah, small, yes.

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>> Sarah : Small potatoes. Yeah, I. I wasn't trying, but

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thank you. Thank you for that assistant.

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Because, yeah, I totally meant to do that, but you

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said before that you had some thoughts. So. So

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what's another thought that you had about this

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movie?

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>> Will: I'm glad you brought up about the Rogues Gallery

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because, you know, the. I have to say, the. The

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way this film was marketed, it seemed like to your

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point, they were going to lean into that a lot

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more than they actually did, which really was a

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sort of like. Okay, you saw basically the, you

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know, most of the promotional materials where it

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was like the first like 10 minutes of the film.

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It's like, let's just catch up with Peter over his

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last, you know, you know, three, four years since.

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Since no Way Home. And yeah, we see Tombstone. You

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know, we do get the scorpion. We get the scorpion

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at least twice, you know, a couple times in this

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film. But, But yeah, it wasn't the focal point. It

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was truly like, you know, it. We had the.

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Again, what I really thought, what I really

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enjoyed about this film was it was truly seeing

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how Peter was dealing with. With. With grief. And.

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And it really spoke to me just watching this film,

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you know, just dealing with the. Some situations

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I've had recently and how you just sort of process

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these things and it's not a linear thing as far as

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what Peter. You know, and I think that was. It was

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just how real they made that go and how Peter just

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threw himself into the work and just to like,

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forget everything, you know, just so he could just

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basically survive.

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>> Sarah : and, you know, has forgotten about him.

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>> Will: Everyone else has forgotten about him. you know,

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he, you know, basically, as far as his

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connections, he just basically has the police

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officer. Yep. And Frank.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry. I keep jumping in.

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>> Will: Yeah. Words. Yeah. So, yeah. but, yeah, so, you

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know, so I think it was just, like I said, it was

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a very. Showed a lot of maturity as far as the

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first act of the film. Just really going through

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that. Of course, you know, the back half, it does

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get more to the comic book stuff, you know,

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because it is a comic book film. But even at that,

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I feel like

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>> Sarah : the, the whole thing, though, they, they, they

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don't just abandon it, in the. My opinion.

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But, but to your point, and this is something I

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like one of my, like, big thoughts about the

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movie.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : This movie. Guess. Guess, Will, what movie? This

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reminded me the Most of. And it's a movie within

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the mcu.

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>> Will: Maybe within the mcu. That reminded you of

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Thunderbolts.

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>> Sarah : Oh, yeah, it reminded me. Especially when we're

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getting into the third act.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Especially at the end of the day. Because that

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movie just. I. I enjoyed myself so much with that

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movie between. Between the comedy and that whole

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take on mental health.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : And depression and fear and. And all of that, I

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thought was so good.

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And, the way that, as you keep bringing up, this

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movie deals with grief and loss. And it's not just

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grief and loss from that one context of the death

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of Aunt May. It's also the grief and loss of his

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childhood, of his friends, of the. His. His. I

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know they're married in real life. Love of his

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life.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It happened.

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>> Sarah : There's, like, this other grief that is happening

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to him that he just is getting overwhelmed with.

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And, Because there's that moment between him and

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Jean Grey.

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>> Will: Yep.

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>> Sarah : Who's also dealing with the grief and loss of her

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sister.

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>> Will: Yep.

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>> Sarah : There they. They have that moment. And the scene

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with Aunt May, I think it was executed better here

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than the okay, everybody, group hug from

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Thunderbolts. But it's very similar where they

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took these. These very. This very human concept,

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human issue that people try to work through, apply

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it to a superhero context. And that's why, yeah,

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you can have these battles with Hulk. You can have

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this battle with Scorpion. You can have this

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battle, with Jean Grey, who. Who creates this,

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like, force field and threatens kill some people.

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But. But they're. They are also. They're not the

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villain. The weak. And. And ironically, the weak

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part is, in my opinion, villain. I, I mean, you.

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You sell through it from, like, a mile away. But

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the surprising thing about this movie is

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ironically, the hero, because you. Which. Which.

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And it's ironic because you. We've watched no Way

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Home. We know the grief, we know the pain. And yet

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it's still like, oh, they're really gonna go here

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into this workaholic mode. And the. The young

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adults dealing with grief.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

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>> Sarah : And. And as you put it, I mean, like, everybody

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deals with grief in. In that way, whether you're

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young or old.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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Well, you know, one of the things, too. You know

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how you were saying that this is the best that you

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said in this film is the scene, And whenever

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you're talking about relationships and Jean Gray,

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the first. The thing I went to was the how

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whenever they were on the rooftop there and Gene

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jumped into MJ and just that. How. To me, that

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scene was just so effective to me because it got

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to the core of like Peter because in that moment,

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you know, he really, it was part of it is just,

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you know, just honest familiarity that Tom Holland

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and his ah, have just, you know, just being a real

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life couple but also just a screen partners. They

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just really shot that scene. Dan Braden directed

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that scene very well because it, it was very

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effective as far as. Just very believable that for

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me as an audience member I really did in that

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moment think that possibly that spell was broken.

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And so in the emotions of the moment just, you

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know, it was, it just was just very effective. And

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then of course whenever the gut punch of like no,

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this is just Jean, you know, with Peter. And then

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of course throwing her off the, you know, of

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course it's always got to be the, throwing off

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the, the side of the building moment in a Spider

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man movie. But, but it really, that was very

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effective. And then to you know, the note scene

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where she discovers the note and I, as soon as, I

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mean I saw where it was going, as soon as he like

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left Frank's hideout.

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>> Sarah : Yep.

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>> Will: And left it on there, I was like, she's going to

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find a note. It was totally telegraphed. Yes. But

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just, but, but they paid up. They, they made up

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for the telegraph by just how well executed her

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finding a note and confronting him about it was.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. And the honesty because at the end of

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that, that scene it's kind of like, I'm sorry but

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I don't remember. And which, which is so heart

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heartbreaking. It's like I did what I, I finally

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did it. You finally know the truth. Yet it won't

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make up for the fact that you don't remember.

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just him, Ned and, and her on the couch.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Just like again it's, it's very interesting

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because I feel like in comparison to the previous

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three movies, like the world feels fuller and

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these three characters also feel so much more

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connected, which is weird because they don't

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remember. But still you there. They did a good job

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of making it clear that even though they don't

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remember, both MJ and Ned feel like there's

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something missing, there's something off about

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their dynamic and their lives and there's

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something missing in it and that they just don't

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know what it is. And, and because of that, like

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they're so obsessed with Spider Man.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : It's so funny.

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>> Will: Yeah, exactly. I mean that's this whole spider

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tracker.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, the whole spider tracker. Of it all. And,

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and that's because they don't remember him but

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they still know Spider man saved him A, B and C

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and D times. So like there's, there's something

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there and that's why that like Peter moment. So

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and, and I do, I am a person who prescribes to the

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fact that I, I think we're gonna get two more of

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this whole Tom Holland spider verse and I think

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that what they're gonna do very similarly to the

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first three movies where they kept using the word

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home. I think they're gonna keep using the word

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day.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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>> Sarah : And it's gonna end with Mayday.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : So. And I know Miles is going to be involved in

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all of that, but I do think that they chose the

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word day very quickly for the title. And, and I

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think that's where we are going.

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What are any, any other big thoughts? I got a lot

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of them and I mean continue next week but yeah,

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>> Will: yeah, no, I mean I think you know, like I said M

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and ah. We can get into the Jean Gray of it all

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maybe next week. And just how they, how do they

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utilize her? I mean I will say the one thing I

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did, the one Jean Gray thing I do want to just put

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out there was I do like how they, they use the

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vmax, you know because as a, as the McGuffin and

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it just, it is how that ended up just what her

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sister was looking at the moment where she died.

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It wasn't any, you know, so again it was like so

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even the, you know, so even like the, the Marvel

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third act comic book stuff, you know, as far as

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the reveal, as far as what is this grand secret

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weapon. No, it was just something very, just very

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sad, very tragic. As far as you know what, what

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you know that, that was driving, driving Gene to

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you know, find out what that was about. And so I

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thought that was a very effective thing as well. I

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mean it was just a very welcome, very well

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constructed movie. I haven't seen this in the MCU

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in a long time. Other than to your point probably

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you know a lot more misses it seems than hits. But

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you know, to your point as you mentioned

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thunderbolts being one, that was, that was one

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that definitely nailed it. As far as just these

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more mature storytelling I think you know

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understanding that the audience has aged and we

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are we need more of this type of storytelling. I

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think you know these two films shows what, what in

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the hands of the right, the writers and correct

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directors, they can't deliver these types of

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Stories.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, but I don't. You don't get this story

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without the first three.

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>> Will: No, you don't. You don't.

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>> Sarah : That's the irony of it, of it all. You, you just,

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you don't, you can't, you can't execute something

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like this without that.

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What else about Jean Grey do you want to talk

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about?

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>> Will: That was the biggie. I mean, you know, as far as

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the revealing stuff, I mean, I think they did it,

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they did have a couple good moments. you know,

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like you said, I mean, a lot of people have

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already, have already commented about this as far

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as, like, oh, they get, you know, there was, there

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were maybe one or two head fakes where I was like,

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no, maybe it's not Jean Gray. But of course it

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ended up being Gene. That was the biggie. And then

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of course, this is stories with, you know, as far

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as her sister and, I guess that shared sense,

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maybe, I guess the shared sense of loss, that she

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and Peter have. So that whenever, to your point,

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whenever they do, where Peter does let her in and

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they do have that moment before Frank shoots him,

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they, you know, I think because of that shared

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sense of loss and that, and now that he's been

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through it and a little bit older now, he could be

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that big brother and help her understand how to

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process all this. So again, to your, you know, so

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how they structured the story, made it, made the

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payoff in the third act for that scene worked very

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well.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. My interpretation of that her and Aunt

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May scene was actually had less to do with her

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sister and more to do with her mom. As in the

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flashback, they, they talk about the mom. They

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talk about and, and the resentful nature. And

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Peter was fortunate enough to be an orphan. But

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have Aunt May. Jean Grey did not have an Aunt May.

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>> Will: Not. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Oh, and neither did Sarah Gray. So.

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>> Will: Right.

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>> Sarah : I, my thing about the Jean Grey in this movie is

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that it felt slighted. I, I, I am so glad I

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stopped listening to things about this movie. I

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stopped watching things. I've seen one trailer,

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but I still knew she was Jean Grey. So, so despite

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all that, so the reveal didn't catch me. I knew it

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all the time. But, I also when I say that I think

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a shortfall or shortcoming of this movie is Jean

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Grey got a bit slighted. I just say that in a

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sense of this isn't Jean Grey's movie. So of

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course she got slighted because we, this is all

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about Peter Parker.

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>> Will: Yep.

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>> Sarah : And his world as it should be. So they couldn't do

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that. And they also are like, this is a starting

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point for her character and she's gonna go off and

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tell her own story. It's called the Phoenix Saga.

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But we. So I wanted more mainly because I. I

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really like Sadie Sink. I'm glad with what. I'm

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happy with what we got, but I did think that it.

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It did feel a bit slighted, and there were some

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shortfalls with her character and her development

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overall. But I also don't hold it against the

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movie because like I said before, this is a Peter

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Carpenter story. So.

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>> Will: Yeah. Yes, I had the opposite. I. I think they.

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For me, the. The with how to Use Gene was just

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more. Just stories, more storytelling as far as,

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like, you know, don't be a killer. But then

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earlier in the movie, she let a guy. She took over

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a guy, left him in the middle of the street and,

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like, let him get hit by a taxi. So, you know, so

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it was more those types of, like the sort of

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storytelling, structured things, how much they

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used her in it. Yeah, I completely agree that this

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is Peter's movie and she is, like you said,

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there's gonna be more story for her down the line.

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And. And as far as all. And also just all the

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mutants as well.

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And yeah, like I said, only we can maybe touch on

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the inhibitor and thoughts as far as, like, with

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the inhibitor, as far as, you know, just how they

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had used that to, you know, try to inhibit her

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powers. But also, you know, how people. How people

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sometimes just try to find things to, like,

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instead of expressing how they feel and stuff.

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>> Sarah : Numb the pain? no, the inhibitor is interesting

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because it goes back to the whole, like, the

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villain is the weakest movie because. And I say

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the hint inhibitor goes back to that because the

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strongest part of the movie is the hero, but the

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hero is his own villain because at the end of the

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day, the whole inhibitor, like Bruce is using it

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to, control this other part of himself that he has

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no control over. And now, now Peter finds himself

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losing control of his abilities. And these suit,

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this. This side of himself, and he doesn't like

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that. He puts the handcuffs on him. And that's the

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first time we've seen really, outside of Bruce

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Banner, one of these quote unquote heroes want to

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put handcuffs on themselves because they're afraid

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of that side of them. And they like, he almost

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kills a cop in the movie.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : And so he knows that these powers are overcoming

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and he's starting to lose control of them. So.

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And. And Jean Gray's points it out. It's like

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you're. You're. So your thought is, I am too

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special. So let me go ahead and, like, experiment

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on myself while. While she's having other people

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experiment on her and her sister. Like, and to use

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those powers for their own. Like, it's. It goes

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back to this idea, the villain's the weakest part

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because we don't get a lot from it. There's not a

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lot of motivation because we're dealing with Jean

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Gray and Peter Parker, who are both heroes at the

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end of the day, but who are dealing with these

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issues, and their powers are. Take the. Take it to

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a whole new level, requiring them to resort into,

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like, well, I don't care. You made this monster.

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Let me kill you all to versus. Peter, who's like,

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I almost killed one person, so let me. Let me mute

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myself a little while without muting myself. Yeah,

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that was my thought about the whole inhibitor, so.

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And. And I love that Hulk was the only one who

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remembered Peter. So, yeah, those are my thoughts

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about Spider Man. A brand new day. Yeah, go ahead

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and tell. Tell us where they can find you.

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>> Will: Yes, you can find me at Will and Polk on all the

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