The Studio Episodes 2-4: A Masterclass in Creativity (and Catastrophe)

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>> Sarah : music

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Greetings

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nerds. This is Scene N Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah Belmont, and with me, as

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always, is our Mr. Producer, Will Polk How are you doing tonight,

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Will?

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>> Will: Doing very well, Sarah How you doing this evening?

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>> Sarah : I'm doing good.

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>> Will: That's good.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. So.

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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : So I'm, like, going through

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a, lot of TV show binges right now.

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>> Will: Oh, cool.

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>> Sarah : so I don't know if you've heard about this show. It's

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not a Will show. It's definitely more my lane.

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but on Amazon prime, there's a show, this new

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show called, Motorheads.

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>> Will: No.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, it's with Ryan Philippe. He's like the notable

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actor in it. and it's

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kind of a. A teen.

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It's. Yes, it is a teen drama.

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and. But they, they. It's

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about a town and some history, and

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a lot of the adults of

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these kids, are

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wrapped up in a. Somewhat of a mystery

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from when they were children. And so you

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have. They. They do a good job, I have to

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say, of the writers of paralleling the.

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The present and like, that idea that history

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repeats. and,

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I kept, like, this has probably been out for a

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month now, if not maybe three weeks. And

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it. They released all of the episodes at once. It's 10

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episodes, about an hour each episode. So it was.

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It was fairly long. And. And I was good. I didn't

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binge it. Oh. Like,

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Like. Well, you know, I had some stuff come up

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last week, so I didn't like straight binge, but

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I did, get through it within a week.

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because everyone kept saying the ending was

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really good. And I'm gonna,

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I'm gonna say this.

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>> Will: Should I put a spoiler alert warning up or.

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>> Sarah : I haven't decided yet. I haven't decided yet.

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so I just. I

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just. I. I did not see it coming. I did

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laugh when it happened. it is a good ending,

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but at the same time, I'm just like. That got

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dark. That was

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a bit excessive.

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So I don't know. But.

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But yeah, I, I can see why there was a lot of talk about

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it, and I'm glad I wasn't spoiled or anything.

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it was decent and I, I do hope it. I do

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hope, and I think it will be getting a season two

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for sure. especially since, Man,

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I'm blanking on. The Summer I Turned Pretty

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is wrapping up its series

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this year. So Motorheads

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will be like the Amazon's continued

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teen drama. So,

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like, as a replacement makes sense. and, I mean,

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there are Plenty of female characters in that show,

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too. It's not completely a male driven. I

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mean, the. The leads are technically two

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twins. Even though they look. They arguably

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don't look alike. Bother me.

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Like, you could get some.

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>> Will: So where is. Or are they supposed to be

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identical twins or this?

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>> Sarah : I mean, once a boy, one's a girl. You can't get too identical with

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that, of course. But I was

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also just like, can we get like

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some sim. Like, there should be some

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features that are. Are similar.

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And to me, I was just like,

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but. But, I can tell

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why they got casted in the sense.

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So, so I did that and then,

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unknowingly, because I was on the fence about

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starting it at all. I, I

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binged this weekend,

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Ginny and Georgia, season three.

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>> Will: Okay.

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>> Sarah : And I think it was sometime last year

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when I binged the first two seasons. I was late to this

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show that the. The third

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season is the best season so far.

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and I,

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I just want to say, if anybody watches the show,

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what you're hearing about Max is actually

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absolutely correct. Maxine deserved better.

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I just, I don't. I was thinking, I was

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watching this the whole time, and I was just like,

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thinking to myself, what did she do something

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to piss off the writers?

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Because out of nowhere,

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like, like she's, quote unquote,

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Jenny's best friend. And for the two seasons,

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and arguably throughout this, this season,

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you see that. You see, like, her undying.

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And boy, was Ginny just,

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like, basically told her, we're not that close

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anymore. It's like, okay, I'm

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confused. I. I just. I

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think a lot of viewers are leaving this season like

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a team Jenny. And

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spoiler alert, it's Joe's baby. Okay?

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I don't want to hear any of this nonsense about it

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being the mayor's baby, okay? It's Joe's

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baby. And if they don't do that, then

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they want to stretch out the series.

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We know Joe's end game, so whatever.

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Anyway, so we've been doing that. But on top of this, on top

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of all this, Will, like, I. I'm telling

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you, I'm going through binges right now.

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>> Will: I, hear it sounds like it.

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>> Sarah : Yeah.

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>> Will: I have nothing. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : I finally have found this

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seer, a very decent. And

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I'm knocking on wood because I don't want to jinx it. K

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Drama, called An Unknown

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or Our Unknown Soul on

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Netflix. And I

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like it because it is

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basically two twin girls,

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women. I mean, they're in their 20s, their

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later 20s, so they're women,

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the identical, identical twins,

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basically played by the same matrix. I mean,

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they switch places because, because

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both of them have their own different

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struggles and it's just following this

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year of them switching, having swapped places

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and places for, reasons

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and, and then it flashes back to their childhood

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because there's some drama back then. And so I

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just, I'm really enjoying

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the, the

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parallels between past and present. And

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also the actress is doing a pretty good job

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because I

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can tell who is who. I

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mean, I know who switched places, of course,

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but in the past it's

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harder because they haven't swapped places, but

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I can tell who is who

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based off of little nuances. And it's not played by

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the same actress, thank God they didn't do

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that. it's played by a different

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actress. And. And

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yet I, I do feel like

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both present and past, the actresses do

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a good job about subtle

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nuances between these two

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twins because the characters themselves are

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different. So it's, it's really

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interesting. And, and there are a few

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characters who can tell them apart and then there's a

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few characters who can't. So it's, Yeah,

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I, I don't know. I really like it. And then on top

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of that, I'm taking my time with that one.

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>> Will: Okay.

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>> Sarah : But, I'm. I have it on my back burner because I

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keep hearing about it and from what I've seen, it looks really

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good. But I'm going to definitely be

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checking out, Good Boy, which is another K

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drama, but it's on Amazon prime starring

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Park Bo Gum who.

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And, and so. And I'm looking forward to that because

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it's. From what I understand, it's

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about some ex athletes

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who somewhat

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find themselves in the police

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and it's just like they're dealing with this

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not good enough type mentality.

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I don't know. But

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I, Like I said, I've yet to watch a single minute of it. I've only

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seen a few, few different things that has me

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like put it on the list. And hey, for all I know

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it could be a no go after the first

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episode because we all know how many times that

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happens to me specifically with K

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dramas. So.

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>> Will: Yep.

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>> Sarah : so yeah, I've just been going through a lot of

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binges about like, I felt

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like arguably it was a

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slow start of the year.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : And June, I wasn't expecting this much

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content, but. But

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I just like one thing after another after

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another, so.

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>> Will: That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I know, I know you

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haven't I know we haven't had. We haven't done the what are we watching

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Segment in a while. Because. Yeah, you're right. I mean, you. You.

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You really early. You know, we had a

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regular rotation, but nothing really was striking your

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fancy as far as, the checkout. But now it sounds

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like, Sounds like you have like, gotten several.

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Finished several things and got. Got a couple things in the

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queue that, that will carry you forward for. For

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the rest of the month and then some.

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>> Sarah : Or. Or I will just. Now that I've spoken it out into

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the universe, it. I will just, like, put it off.

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do I. Do I want to? So, I

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mean, because I could have. I could have started Good Boy this

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weekend. I could have continued on. Like,

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I'm behind technically with Unknown Soul, but

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there's something about the difference

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between starting a new show.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : And then going on, like, with

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Jenny and Georgia. I. I'm in season three,

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so I'm like, I know what I'm gonna get,

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and. And I can play it on the background. Like, I know how

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I am. Like, I know it's gonna be a binge.

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It's gonna be plain. I'm gonna be able to do other things.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Me dramas. That's one. Also. Also another thing. Because I

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don't speak the language, I have to be paying

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attention.

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It's very hard.

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>> Will: Yeah. There is that little thing. Yeah. Subtitles.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. And then it's like, o.

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Do the, The, the.

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The dubbed. And it's like, no, no, no,

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I can't do that.

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>> Will: I can't do that. No, no, I can't.

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No, it just. It just messes it up. I remember I was watching

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Lupin and, And I think maybe to see

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the first season and. And I was

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like, put on. I put on the dub version

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and then I was like, oh, hell no. Let's go back to the French. I mean, yeah,

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because it's just. And it seemed like, speaking of benches,

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finally. We finally got back to. Because

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of the studio. I went back and started watching, as I

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mentioned it last week, called my agent, the,

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French, drama. It's also on Netflix and

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has spun off. And so I started watching,

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again this past weekend and just like, you know, this is such a good.

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This is such a good show. And but to your point,

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speaking of languages and stuff, I was like, oh, yeah, but I always just watch it in the

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original French and just have the subtitles.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. the only

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show I've ever watched with

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dubbed Happened last year

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when I randomly, on Amazon, put on

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Maxton hall, because I kept hearing about it,

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but I didn't know it was foreign language.

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completely by accident, my Amazon prime knew

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I didn't speak German, or. I'm sorry. I'm sorry if

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it's Dutch. I'm not. I'm technically. Not really sure.

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I'm pretty sure German, but I could be wrong.

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so. Or watch. It's probably some other. It's.

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It's definitely. It's definitely not English

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and it's not British, but it is over there

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in Europe. Okay. Yeah, okay. But

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I. For. For whatever reason,

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like, I didn't know it was foreign language. So I'm

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watching the first episode and I'm hearing these

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voices, and I'm like, every now and then I'll be like,

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is this. Like, did they screw

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up?

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Like, I don't.

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>> Will: I don't understand. It's my stream. It's my. Is my

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Internet like, the stream, like, dragging?

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>> Sarah : Exactly. So here's the funny thing.

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As soon as I figured it out, I then

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turned on subtitles. I think I might

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have lasted one episode, maybe not even an

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episode. And then I switched it back to dub. Because

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here's. Here's my logic. The.

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The storyline of Maxton hall, it's.

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It's Team Soap. I don't need to be paying

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attention.

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So I. As much as it, like, is

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bothersome, I'm not going to be paying ATT through

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most of it anyway. So having

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hearing the like, like. And by the

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by, midway through, I got used to it. Like,

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clearly, I was just like, oh, I've gone through one

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episode. Might as well go through this. through the whole thing.

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it. It's similar to what I'm finding

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when you hear a song in a

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language. Right. okay. In a different

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language now. And then you hear

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that. That song, that same song. There's the

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English version or whatever language is

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your first language. Right.

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>> Will: Right.

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>> Sarah : Now, what I'm

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finding is that

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my preference, and a lot of people have said

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this online, is that whatever language you

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hear the song in first, that

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is the language, that is the version

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that is always the true version of the

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song. And anything else, it just doesn't

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sound right. Yeah, it's so

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interesting. It's so interesting.

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>> Will: It. It really is. It really. It really is. I. You know, just

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to show my genic sensibilities here,

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it's like, 99 lift balloons. When I heard the German version, the original, I

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was like, yeah. And then I heard the Heard the,

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the mtv, dub version. I was like, nah,

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nah, gotta, gotta have the original.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like,

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like I, I hear a Korean

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version of a song. But

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what they don't tell you is a lot of K pop artists

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also do Japanese songs.

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Oh, original Japanese songs.

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And then people, because it's all about the money,

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then later they'll do the Korean version.

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If I hear the Japanese version

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first, that is the correct version.

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Regardless of the Korean version. It

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always sounds different. And there are actually

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my preferred version. And then

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sometimes lately we

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get the Korean version,

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the Japanese version. Oh, and the English version.

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I hardly ever listen to the English versions of

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these songs unless like,

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that is the initial version, like 17's

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Darling. I, I'm pretty sure they, they.

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I don't think they've ever released that as a Korean version

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though. Pretty sure. But it's, it's

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just. And then I, I saw on Tick Tock other

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people who listen to that kind of music

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have also said the same thing, that they never realized

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it. But it always goes back to like that

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first version you hear

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because the words are different suddenly and you're

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like, you're probably saying the same thing in a different

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language. It just doesn't flow the same. It doesn't flow.

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>> Will: Yeah, it's just. Yeah, it's just. Yeah, it just. Yeah. it really

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doesn't flow. It's like, yeah, it's the original cut of

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anything and then. Or like, or even

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like, it's like when someone just. Even in

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the same language. But this covers a song

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and, and yeah, and the COVID just,

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just never like, just never captures that

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essence of the, of the original. I mean.

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>> Sarah : Yeah.

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>> Will: Ah, it's just. I totally get what you're saying.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. I mean, and it's ironic considering

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we're about to talk about the studio and

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we get into that whole idea of original and

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art and everything. But

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to start like the second episode, the oner

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where the filming of an intricate sun

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sunset shot becomes complicated by Matt's set

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visit.

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I kept thinking I was

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looking forward to this episode.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : And then it started. It's a good

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episode. Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong,

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but it's really hard for me

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to watch one, one shot and not

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immediately go to adolescence.

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>> Will: You know what? I put that in my notes. I totally did the

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same. I felt the same thing.

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>> Sarah : It, it's just, it's like, it's like you're, you're

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watching it and you're like, this is good.

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If it had come out before adolescence,

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I probably would be responding to it a lot

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differently. But when you see

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the ad, the workmanship, and not that they did

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anything bad, it's just that you

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you're starting to understand with this show, like

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there's going to be a concept and then

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they're going to like really

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bring that concept to life. So the fact that this is

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called the One or because Matt's obsessed with wanting

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to watch this one shot occur for

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a movie they're working on and

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it's all shot. The irony is that it's all

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shot in one take, which, which is

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clever. And then especially towards the end when you

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start, when the, when the interruptions

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really start to escalate between him

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interrupting the scene by, by wanting

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to talk to Greta, to them finding

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out that the car was parked in the wrong

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spot. Which was a great callback because I had forgotten about

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that by the time we got there. But at the

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same time I'm just like, I, can't

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because I don't

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know if I'll ever look at a one again and

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not compare it to adolescence.

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>> Will: Yeah. So I, I, I, I thought, like I said

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as I thought about adolescence and and I think there was a

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couple, maybe it was some other things

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that we've talked recently where there's been like the one

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shot. But you're right, I mean it definitely

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for the, the, the comet. The comedy of

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errors and, and Matt just

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wanting to, you know, to be there for it and

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then, and all, and also like all the other

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things around him

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showing up as far as like the, you know,

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the publicity as far as you and, and,

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and everything you with

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the, you know, with the car. I mean like as soon as the car, like since

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they got like parked there and then when the show ended, the

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episode ended, I was like, they're not going to be able to fit. That's

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going to be, that's going to be the, the, the, the

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crescendo of all the fuck

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ups. Because they parked the car right there

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because they were already running late and, and,

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and just, you know, just from the, from, to get. Everything

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was just like just

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messing up. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Well, what was the best up

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out of all of them in this episode?

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>> Will: Oh God. Oh.

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>> Will: Man. So the car is definitely one of my tops.

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>> Sarah : Really? Even though you had, but, but

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>> Will: It'S still the execution of it. This worked beautifully.

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It was the execution. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Got it.

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>> Will: Because, yeah, because you know, you had all these, you know, because of course

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you had, you Know you have Matt. I will say I did like

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the one where he, like, you know, crashed and like, busted his

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face.

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>> Sarah : Yeah.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : What I Like what I liked about that

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one was that. Was that I,

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as an audience member

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was like, they did a really good job with that one.

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When he comes out of the bathroom or wherever they were

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talking and. And. Or

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wherever he was talking with Sal and immediately

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sees Greta. And I'm, as an audience member still

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like, okay, everything's fine. And then so it catches me off

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guard too when they're like. He just

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interrupted like, That. That execution, I thought.

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Because a lot of the other stuff

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did seem a bit like. Especially with the, Not

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the cigarette, but the blonde. I was just like,

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see where that's going?

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>> Will: Yeah. I just love that he was just trying to get. You know, he just kept trying

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to give Sarah the note, you know, about the blunt.

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And then. And then also like early on in

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the episode, whenever he. Whenever

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they were, trying to set up the,

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The, Others. The. His executive

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studio, his own special, like, thing. Get her. Get

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her. Get him away from her so she can just focus on the shot.

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Because I mean, the thing about. About the. The

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winner here too was they only. Basically

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whenever. As soon as she. And when

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Sarah, Poli and the director of photography

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started talking about they only have enough light for, you know,

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for a couple shots, I was like, oh, boy. Except

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as I was like.

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I was like, the shots gonna get messed up somehow some

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way. They're not gonna. They're gonna run out of light. And it's just like. It just kind of

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just spiral. Spiral from there because it was just.

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But whenever. But the other. The other one too

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was whenever he was. You know, whenever he was with. Trying to

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whisper and. And she. And. And

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Greta could hear. Hear the whispering and stuff, and it

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took her out of the scene. I mean,

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it was just so many things about why. And. And I've,

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got the little still up here like Catherine o' Hara. Like, you.

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You know, Patty looking at. Looking at Matt like, you schmuck. I

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mean, just. Just. Just. Just get. Just go

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already, because you're just messing everything up. But he just. You know,

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he was just so, like. Whenever

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Sarah, like, told. You know, agreed with him about

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the blunt, and then Greta also agreed with it. You know,

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it was just like, oh, he's like, I'm. I'm. I'm helpful here. And it,

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Just like. It was just encouraging him to like, just.

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Just be just a pest there and just. It just messed

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everything up. But.

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>> Sarah : The whispering one I thought was the weakest

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out of all of them. that and the blunt,

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arguably, for everything that you just said about

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that, because those were the most

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foreshadowed. But looking back on it now,

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it's a good, It's a good episode to follow out

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the pilot and to also then be

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followed up by the note, because what

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we're seeing is

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between the oner and the note is,

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more. They delve more into his ego

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and. And you would think coming off of the pilot,

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like, he doesn't have that big of an ego or anything

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because he seems like, oh, I just want to make really

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good movies. But

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with the note, he.

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He, He finds himself in this position where

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he has to do his job well.

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He has to do his one job, which

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is, to be honest, to a filmmaker. And in

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this case, it was Ron Howard about,

507
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About a movie that, went on way

508
00:24:19,522 --> 00:24:22,282
too long and had this extra. This

509
00:24:22,282 --> 00:24:25,282
extra. What was it, like an extra

510
00:24:25,282 --> 00:24:26,882
30 minutes for 40 minutes?

511
00:24:27,762 --> 00:24:30,722
>> Will: Yeah, it was. Yeah. I mean, I loved. Yeah, I

512
00:24:30,722 --> 00:24:32,962
love. That was so great because it's like

513
00:24:33,602 --> 00:24:36,332
one last thing about the. The one or two, which, you know,

514
00:24:36,332 --> 00:24:38,852
which. How meta this show is.

515
00:24:39,832 --> 00:24:42,782
it, You know, so Sarah Poly, she. She,

516
00:24:42,782 --> 00:24:45,662
you know, she directed Women Talking. And it was. No, she was a

517
00:24:45,662 --> 00:24:48,502
writer of Women Talking, if I recall. But this. But she

518
00:24:48,502 --> 00:24:51,352
also was an actor and. But you

519
00:24:51,352 --> 00:24:54,272
know how, like, the thing that I really appreciate about this

520
00:24:54,272 --> 00:24:57,272
show is like, all the things that go into the relationships of Hollywood.

521
00:24:57,932 --> 00:25:00,902
and, and. And so in real life, this was like

522
00:25:00,902 --> 00:25:03,662
her first acting gig in like 17 years. She did it as a

523
00:25:03,662 --> 00:25:06,662
favor to Seth Rogen because they're, you know, they're good friends and stuff.

524
00:25:06,662 --> 00:25:09,502
And, and that's another thing that I think this, that the show

525
00:25:09,502 --> 00:25:11,982
has like, also the.

526
00:25:13,262 --> 00:25:15,862
Really gets into some of the. The. The. The. The

527
00:25:15,862 --> 00:25:18,852
relationships that people have, whether it's good, bad or

528
00:25:18,852 --> 00:25:21,732
in between, and it really, you know, comes to a head. You know, we see

529
00:25:21,732 --> 00:25:24,722
that also with, with the note, as far

530
00:25:24,722 --> 00:25:27,452
as, just, you know, how

531
00:25:27,852 --> 00:25:30,772
good or bad experience can.

532
00:25:30,772 --> 00:25:33,632
Can like basically like color. Color,

533
00:25:34,532 --> 00:25:37,402
your, Your professional, outlook on things

534
00:25:37,402 --> 00:25:40,162
like, and how hard it was for Matt to give Ron Howard this

535
00:25:40,162 --> 00:25:40,522
note.

536
00:25:43,182 --> 00:25:44,942
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah.

537
00:25:45,352 --> 00:25:45,832
>> Will: Yeah,

538
00:25:48,472 --> 00:25:48,872
yeah.

539
00:25:48,872 --> 00:25:49,272
>> Sarah : I mean.

540
00:25:49,272 --> 00:25:50,632
>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

541
00:25:51,032 --> 00:25:52,312
>> Sarah : Oh, no, you go ahead.

542
00:25:52,952 --> 00:25:55,632
>> Will: No, no, but I was just. Yeah, because I mean, the thing about the

543
00:25:55,632 --> 00:25:57,591
note in particular, so, you know, because.

544
00:25:58,632 --> 00:26:01,512
And I guess Matt was just so

545
00:26:01,512 --> 00:26:04,512
worried about ruining the relationship with

546
00:26:04,512 --> 00:26:07,292
Matt with, with Ron Howard because he, he

547
00:26:07,292 --> 00:26:10,122
thinks Back to like whenever a

548
00:26:10,122 --> 00:26:12,882
beautiful m. He was, he was a lowly PA

549
00:26:12,962 --> 00:26:14,802
or. And he was like first

550
00:26:16,002 --> 00:26:18,912
giving his thoughts at a screening about about

551
00:26:18,912 --> 00:26:21,872
A Beautiful Mind and he was like wanting to give the, the,

552
00:26:21,872 --> 00:26:24,712
the, the this, you know, suggestion about

553
00:26:24,712 --> 00:26:27,622
Will Polk Bettany's character. Right, right. Yeah,

554
00:26:27,622 --> 00:26:30,582
yeah. Imaginary. Yeah, yeah.

555
00:26:32,422 --> 00:26:33,222
Oh, go ahead.

556
00:26:33,702 --> 00:26:36,662
>> Sarah : Oh yeah, it's so, so, yeah, so he,

557
00:26:36,902 --> 00:26:39,862
he gave a note as a young PA to Ron

558
00:26:39,862 --> 00:26:42,572
Howard. And the reaction to that

559
00:26:42,572 --> 00:26:44,872
of Ron Howard cursing him out

560
00:26:45,432 --> 00:26:48,212
prevents him from in his, present

561
00:26:48,292 --> 00:26:50,692
day wanting to give a similar

562
00:26:50,932 --> 00:26:53,572
note, albeit the correct

563
00:26:53,652 --> 00:26:56,502
note ironically, to Ron

564
00:26:56,502 --> 00:26:59,192
Howard about this specific new

565
00:26:59,192 --> 00:27:02,082
movie that he's working on. but again,

566
00:27:02,162 --> 00:27:04,722
like I was saying before, it's all about his ego

567
00:27:05,202 --> 00:27:06,882
because he.

568
00:27:06,962 --> 00:27:09,602
>> Will: Okay, yeah, go ahead, go ahead,

569
00:27:09,922 --> 00:27:12,562
finish your thought. I had a thoughts about the ego too.

570
00:27:14,162 --> 00:27:17,002
>> Sarah : Okay, well now I'm curious about what your thoughts because

571
00:27:17,002 --> 00:27:19,722
I, I thought I'd started, but I'm confused.

572
00:27:19,722 --> 00:27:22,612
>> Will: Yeah, so what I was just going to say. I don't know if it's so

573
00:27:22,612 --> 00:27:25,492
much ego. For me it's, it is a bit of ego, but it's also

574
00:27:25,492 --> 00:27:26,452
a lot of insecurity.

575
00:27:27,582 --> 00:27:30,302
>> Sarah : Right? Yeah, yeah,

576
00:27:31,102 --> 00:27:33,902
yeah, yeah. Insecurity, ego.

577
00:27:35,602 --> 00:27:38,162
he, he. Yeah, yeah.

578
00:27:38,722 --> 00:27:41,522
So, so why do you. I guess. Well,

579
00:27:41,602 --> 00:27:44,442
are we gonna debate about that? I don't know. yeah,

580
00:27:45,482 --> 00:27:46,602
well, he has an ego.

581
00:27:46,602 --> 00:27:49,402
>> Will: Because like, you know, it's, it's like, like for example,

582
00:27:49,402 --> 00:27:52,242
going back to the, the suggestion with the, with the

583
00:27:52,242 --> 00:27:55,242
blunt and the oner. I mean, you know, whenever.

584
00:27:57,802 --> 00:28:00,602
>> Sarah : He'S, he has, ah, he's a bit

585
00:28:00,602 --> 00:28:02,602
naive, I guess. Yeah, so.

586
00:28:05,002 --> 00:28:06,362
Yeah, yeah,

587
00:28:07,882 --> 00:28:10,801
but because he thinks he's doing the right

588
00:28:10,801 --> 00:28:11,162
thing.

589
00:28:12,952 --> 00:28:15,862
>> Sarah : Like, like the irony between this

590
00:28:15,862 --> 00:28:18,662
episode, the note and the oner is

591
00:28:18,662 --> 00:28:21,552
that he was doing all the wrong

592
00:28:21,552 --> 00:28:24,312
things unknowingly. Like,

593
00:28:24,552 --> 00:28:27,512
like I, I feel like with this episode

594
00:28:27,512 --> 00:28:30,192
it's more about ego. Like.

595
00:28:30,192 --> 00:28:33,112
Yeah, it's insecurity. But he

596
00:28:33,192 --> 00:28:35,952
doesn't, you have to remember, he doesn't think

597
00:28:35,952 --> 00:28:38,072
that Ron Howard remembers it.

598
00:28:38,472 --> 00:28:38,872
>> Will: Right.

599
00:28:39,352 --> 00:28:42,312
>> Sarah : He, he honestly. And they set that up

600
00:28:42,312 --> 00:28:45,112
perfectly where he honestly feels like

601
00:28:45,562 --> 00:28:48,482
because everyone else is telling him that, oh, Ron

602
00:28:48,482 --> 00:28:51,322
Howard likes you. Oh, this. And he himself

603
00:28:51,322 --> 00:28:54,202
feels like, oh, I'm in this good spot. I don't have to go

604
00:28:54,202 --> 00:28:56,962
back there. Unfortunately though,

605
00:28:56,962 --> 00:28:59,882
I have to give him this note and I don't want

606
00:28:59,882 --> 00:29:02,602
to because this guy likes me

607
00:29:02,922 --> 00:29:05,562
and I don't want him to then

608
00:29:06,122 --> 00:29:08,962
like. And obviously it

609
00:29:08,962 --> 00:29:11,722
does like to then remember

610
00:29:11,722 --> 00:29:14,702
what I said before because in the past

611
00:29:14,702 --> 00:29:17,382
it was the wrong note in the present.

612
00:29:17,382 --> 00:29:20,342
It's the right note. So, like,

613
00:29:20,342 --> 00:29:23,302
the. The. The. Yeah, it's an

614
00:29:23,302 --> 00:29:26,022
insecurity because he. He.

615
00:29:26,982 --> 00:29:29,702
Well, I don't know. I don't know if he really

616
00:29:29,862 --> 00:29:32,702
thinks that it was the

617
00:29:32,702 --> 00:29:35,542
wrong note to. To give at the,

618
00:29:36,952 --> 00:29:39,512
In this episode, like when he was,

619
00:29:39,472 --> 00:29:42,102
younger. There's too many notes.

620
00:29:43,222 --> 00:29:46,142
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well,

621
00:29:46,142 --> 00:29:48,982
I think it was. I mean, well, what I

622
00:29:48,982 --> 00:29:50,272
say, Because he's trying

623
00:29:51,792 --> 00:29:54,752
to. And it goes back to like the pilot with. With.

624
00:29:54,752 --> 00:29:57,072
With. With the studio president,

625
00:29:58,312 --> 00:30:01,242
the owner. I mean, you know, he's not, you know,

626
00:30:01,242 --> 00:30:04,242
he's trying, you know, he's. He's wanting to, like,

627
00:30:04,402 --> 00:30:07,292
have a blockbuster, you know, and.

628
00:30:07,612 --> 00:30:10,252
And so. And he's, you know, and he's fresh in the job.

629
00:30:10,572 --> 00:30:13,452
All the stuff that happened with Patty, you know, as far as how,

630
00:30:13,452 --> 00:30:16,202
you know, how she got, ceremoniously fired.

631
00:30:16,202 --> 00:30:19,162
And. And so, you know, he's not really, you know, he's.

632
00:30:19,162 --> 00:30:21,962
He's very insecure in his position as

633
00:30:21,962 --> 00:30:24,882
studio head. And, you know, and. And so. And I love

634
00:30:24,882 --> 00:30:27,242
the way they, like, set up. Set up this.

635
00:30:27,642 --> 00:30:30,602
The. The episode because, you know, they go into. There. They're

636
00:30:30,602 --> 00:30:33,472
going into screener, and, you, know, they had

637
00:30:33,472 --> 00:30:36,312
that. That great moment. You know, Antony Mackie, you

638
00:30:36,312 --> 00:30:38,742
got, you know, you know, Franco and.

639
00:30:39,222 --> 00:30:42,142
And they're like, oh, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, and then, like

640
00:30:42,142 --> 00:30:44,982
you said, it's just like it goes into the

641
00:30:44,982 --> 00:30:47,862
ending that never ends. Like, we've. Which again,

642
00:30:47,862 --> 00:30:50,822
is just a great reference on, like, run times and.

643
00:30:51,062 --> 00:30:53,982
And. And you know how movies just. Just don't end

644
00:30:53,982 --> 00:30:56,662
these days. So, you know, and then he.

645
00:30:56,822 --> 00:30:59,062
So whenever it was time to give the note,

646
00:30:59,912 --> 00:31:02,562
like, he. You, know, he was like. You said he was

647
00:31:02,562 --> 00:31:05,322
cute. He was still thinking about the, you know,

648
00:31:05,322 --> 00:31:07,642
the chewing out he got by Ron before

649
00:31:08,682 --> 00:31:11,602
trying to, like, get everybody else to, like, you know, to do the

650
00:31:11,602 --> 00:31:14,562
dirty work for him. But, you know, but at the end of the

651
00:31:14,562 --> 00:31:17,562
day, you know, it was the right call. And even. Even, like, it's funny

652
00:31:17,562 --> 00:31:20,122
when Antony Mackey even came into the room and he was just like

653
00:31:20,842 --> 00:31:23,842
this. This thing sucks. I mean, everybody is in

654
00:31:23,842 --> 00:31:26,762
agreement, but at the end of the day, they were so afraid of

655
00:31:26,762 --> 00:31:28,802
pissing off the filmmaker.

656
00:31:30,282 --> 00:31:33,002
because like you said, I mean, it was just set, you know,

657
00:31:33,002 --> 00:31:33,322
because.

658
00:31:34,282 --> 00:31:37,002
>> Sarah : Because. Yeah,

659
00:31:37,402 --> 00:31:40,242
yeah, yeah. Like, there. There. There's

660
00:31:40,242 --> 00:31:42,402
always an insecurity that's

661
00:31:42,402 --> 00:31:44,282
overcompensated by an ego.

662
00:31:44,682 --> 00:31:45,242
>> Will: Yeah.

663
00:31:45,242 --> 00:31:47,882
>> Sarah : And that power struggle within

664
00:31:48,042 --> 00:31:50,682
Hollywood and all of these different players

665
00:31:50,842 --> 00:31:51,882
of this Game

666
00:31:54,672 --> 00:31:57,632
for Matt. It's interesting that you brought up in the pilot him

667
00:31:57,632 --> 00:32:00,352
being insecure in his job because

668
00:32:00,832 --> 00:32:03,832
there's the other side of that pilot and the other version

669
00:32:03,832 --> 00:32:06,552
of Matt where Matt, like, went, got the meeting

670
00:32:06,552 --> 00:32:08,352
with Scorsese,

671
00:32:09,472 --> 00:32:12,192
managed to get. Try to get on track

672
00:32:12,272 --> 00:32:15,272
the movie he wanted to get. Like, I don't

673
00:32:15,272 --> 00:32:18,272
know if it's insecure. Like, yes, it's

674
00:32:18,652 --> 00:32:21,532
there. There's aspects of insecurity. But

675
00:32:23,292 --> 00:32:26,052
I. I think what they're doing with this

676
00:32:26,052 --> 00:32:28,842
character and this person, with

677
00:32:28,842 --> 00:32:31,162
this character is that

678
00:32:31,642 --> 00:32:34,521
a balance of him being a

679
00:32:35,562 --> 00:32:38,522
very naive. I want to be the one

680
00:32:38,522 --> 00:32:41,482
who determines what films to make.

681
00:32:41,482 --> 00:32:44,362
And then having all of these different.

682
00:32:44,442 --> 00:32:46,492
Whether it be the, The real.

683
00:32:48,392 --> 00:32:50,472
Arguably the real head of the studio

684
00:32:51,112 --> 00:32:53,672
telling him what movies he will

685
00:32:53,752 --> 00:32:56,162
choose to make. or

686
00:32:56,562 --> 00:32:59,452
them. M. Or Maya saying, I can't market this.

687
00:32:59,452 --> 00:33:02,281
You gotta come up with something better. or Sal

688
00:33:02,522 --> 00:33:05,482
being like, you gotta think more in

689
00:33:05,482 --> 00:33:07,852
this lane. or Patty

690
00:33:08,172 --> 00:33:10,852
basically kind of mentoring, but

691
00:33:10,852 --> 00:33:13,731
also just telling him he's a. Every

692
00:33:13,731 --> 00:33:16,731
five seconds. Like, there's all of these

693
00:33:16,731 --> 00:33:19,731
other forces that I think are

694
00:33:19,731 --> 00:33:22,531
building more of the insecurity. Because you also

695
00:33:22,611 --> 00:33:24,291
don't go from being a PA

696
00:33:25,571 --> 00:33:28,451
all the way to the head of a studio without

697
00:33:28,531 --> 00:33:31,291
developing an ego. I mean, that when he

698
00:33:31,291 --> 00:33:34,101
tells, When he comes up with this idea,

699
00:33:34,101 --> 00:33:36,751
like, oh, we, Yeah, I

700
00:33:36,751 --> 00:33:39,682
purchased that script for 5 million or

701
00:33:39,682 --> 00:33:42,442
$10 million because A, he could.

702
00:33:43,082 --> 00:33:46,082
And B, then he masked it with

703
00:33:46,082 --> 00:33:49,042
this lie. Like, I. I think there is

704
00:33:49,042 --> 00:33:51,762
a lot of ego. And I think that that's

705
00:33:51,762 --> 00:33:54,682
why it was a good

706
00:33:55,082 --> 00:33:58,042
scene when, quote, unquote,

707
00:33:58,042 --> 00:34:00,362
the real Ron Howard shows up and

708
00:34:00,362 --> 00:34:03,082
realizes what's going on. And then you get this.

709
00:34:03,572 --> 00:34:06,132
These two forces coming together,

710
00:34:07,002 --> 00:34:09,822
clashing in that way. And. And

711
00:34:09,822 --> 00:34:12,822
you can see Matt. I. I like

712
00:34:12,822 --> 00:34:15,562
the. I like how the, The. The

713
00:34:15,562 --> 00:34:18,042
whole sequence that. That is being

714
00:34:18,042 --> 00:34:20,522
discussed in this entire episode

715
00:34:21,002 --> 00:34:23,692
is, kind of an

716
00:34:23,692 --> 00:34:26,332
homage to. By the end of this episode

717
00:34:26,572 --> 00:34:29,412
with Matt being like, oh, well, I really

718
00:34:29,412 --> 00:34:31,772
lost that one. But he didn't because

719
00:34:32,202 --> 00:34:35,042
Ron eventually takes the sequence out of the

720
00:34:35,042 --> 00:34:37,892
movie, and then threatens Matt

721
00:34:37,892 --> 00:34:40,892
and says, if you ever do this to me again, I will destroy

722
00:34:40,892 --> 00:34:43,572
you. No, take it,

723
00:34:43,972 --> 00:34:46,782
take it. And then. And then we even

724
00:34:46,782 --> 00:34:49,472
get more ego, occurring with the

725
00:34:49,472 --> 00:34:51,432
missing real as. And we,

726
00:34:52,272 --> 00:34:54,592
Another director, Olivia Wild,

727
00:34:55,542 --> 00:34:58,452
Who. Speaking. Steals are real. Did

728
00:34:58,452 --> 00:35:01,092
you figure out that it was Olivia

729
00:35:01,092 --> 00:35:04,012
before or. At what point did he figure out that it was

730
00:35:04,012 --> 00:35:04,692
Olivia?

731
00:35:05,352 --> 00:35:08,312
>> Will: about halfway through. I think I figured

732
00:35:08,312 --> 00:35:09,032
it out. Because,

733
00:35:11,212 --> 00:35:14,172
it was just. I think. Yeah, it was. And

734
00:35:14,172 --> 00:35:17,072
whenever, they. Zach Efron, you know, I

735
00:35:17,072 --> 00:35:19,822
couldn't help but, like, think of, hello, darling.

736
00:35:20,072 --> 00:35:22,792
and also when they were like, you know, given all the. She went full

737
00:35:22,792 --> 00:35:24,942
Fincher whenever they were talking with the, the guy who

738
00:35:25,732 --> 00:35:28,732
earlier about the can. As far as the whole perfectionist

739
00:35:28,732 --> 00:35:31,492
note in the scene and her,

740
00:35:32,052 --> 00:35:34,932
you know, just getting, you know, getting

741
00:35:34,932 --> 00:35:37,932
that her, you know, she did the cameo and it was just excellent.

742
00:35:37,932 --> 00:35:40,932
So, yeah, so I started piecing it together, but I think it was just

743
00:35:40,932 --> 00:35:43,732
a. You know, the cool thing about this

744
00:35:43,732 --> 00:35:46,572
show is whenever they do, like, you

745
00:35:46,572 --> 00:35:49,492
know, set things up, you know, each.

746
00:35:49,812 --> 00:35:52,662
Each episode, this is like. Like in

747
00:35:52,662 --> 00:35:55,342
this one, it was like, playing off the whole, you know, film noir,

748
00:35:55,502 --> 00:35:58,232
you know, detective story kind of thing. you know,

749
00:35:59,522 --> 00:36:02,382
Matt was kind of like. Was stepping in as, like, Bogey, you

750
00:36:02,382 --> 00:36:05,222
know, Humphrey Bogart or something like that. So I.

751
00:36:05,222 --> 00:36:08,062
I just really like the way they. They sort of set this.

752
00:36:08,622 --> 00:36:11,182
Just, you know, set things up,

753
00:36:11,252 --> 00:36:13,742
organically. not only from the story

754
00:36:13,822 --> 00:36:16,782
standpoint, but also from the sets and the.

755
00:36:16,912 --> 00:36:19,552
The wardrobe. I mean, thinking back to, you know, the oner.

756
00:36:20,882 --> 00:36:23,882
you know, just that trying to, like, dress down and ended up

757
00:36:23,882 --> 00:36:26,762
looking like, you know, just like, you know, just a studio hand. And they didn't even

758
00:36:26,762 --> 00:36:29,552
realize he was. Because he got rid of his suit. there

759
00:36:29,552 --> 00:36:32,472
little. Little things like that are just like, the little details that I really

760
00:36:32,472 --> 00:36:33,632
appreciate about this show.

761
00:36:36,592 --> 00:36:37,872
>> Sarah : Yeah, I.

762
00:36:39,872 --> 00:36:42,372
I go back and forth on it. M.

763
00:36:42,592 --> 00:36:45,392
Sometimes it comes off as a bit gimmicky to me.

764
00:36:46,662 --> 00:36:49,422
and I don't know why, but it doesn't

765
00:36:49,422 --> 00:36:52,292
play as original. I do

766
00:36:52,372 --> 00:36:55,112
like how they normalize.

767
00:36:56,172 --> 00:36:59,012
like the idea that, like, you have this

768
00:36:59,012 --> 00:37:01,932
sequence in this episode called the Missing Reel,

769
00:37:01,932 --> 00:37:04,702
where, they cut to Matt

770
00:37:04,702 --> 00:37:07,192
in a trench coat and it's voiceover.

771
00:37:08,152 --> 00:37:10,992
And then about 10 seconds later, Sal calls

772
00:37:10,992 --> 00:37:13,832
him over and he. He

773
00:37:13,832 --> 00:37:16,552
says something like, why are you talking to that

774
00:37:16,552 --> 00:37:19,552
voice recorder? And it's like my therapist says, whenever

775
00:37:19,552 --> 00:37:22,392
I'm going through spinning now, I have to, like,

776
00:37:22,952 --> 00:37:25,852
journal. so. So, like,

777
00:37:25,852 --> 00:37:28,692
I can appreciate when they do things like

778
00:37:28,692 --> 00:37:31,602
that. but sometimes once I

779
00:37:31,602 --> 00:37:34,212
figure out what the. What the

780
00:37:34,212 --> 00:37:37,132
gimmick is, then I'm just, like, looking for

781
00:37:37,132 --> 00:37:40,132
it and it becomes less. Less

782
00:37:40,132 --> 00:37:43,012
obvious. That's why I appreciate with the note

783
00:37:43,012 --> 00:37:45,852
how there really wasn't that much

784
00:37:45,852 --> 00:37:47,932
of a gimmick. And it felt more

785
00:37:48,812 --> 00:37:51,292
like something a studio

786
00:37:51,532 --> 00:37:54,212
would experience on a. On a

787
00:37:54,212 --> 00:37:56,962
regular basis. feedback, whether

788
00:37:56,962 --> 00:37:59,962
it's to A director or. Or. And it's not

789
00:37:59,962 --> 00:38:02,682
like, also, I just want to go back to it and

790
00:38:02,682 --> 00:38:05,602
say, like, arguably. So they

791
00:38:05,602 --> 00:38:08,442
didn't just choose a new director. They. It was about

792
00:38:08,442 --> 00:38:11,442
giving a. A note to a director

793
00:38:11,522 --> 00:38:14,002
who's so well known as Ron Howard.

794
00:38:14,242 --> 00:38:17,002
Yeah, it would. It would be

795
00:38:17,002 --> 00:38:19,962
like if we actually saw them make the Jamestown

796
00:38:19,962 --> 00:38:22,922
movie and he had to give a note up to Martin

797
00:38:22,922 --> 00:38:25,372
Scorsese. I mean, come on. Like,

798
00:38:26,892 --> 00:38:29,892
so. So I. I think that.

799
00:38:29,892 --> 00:38:32,332
That overall, is what I find

800
00:38:32,892 --> 00:38:35,772
so fun about this show is

801
00:38:35,772 --> 00:38:38,492
the cameos and the.

802
00:38:38,732 --> 00:38:41,572
The. They're not. They're not trying to

803
00:38:41,572 --> 00:38:44,012
make this. No, this is clearly Hollywood, and

804
00:38:44,572 --> 00:38:47,572
Seth Rogen has so many friends and that

805
00:38:47,572 --> 00:38:50,572
he's getting all of these cameos. And

806
00:38:50,732 --> 00:38:52,932
the other thing, that

807
00:38:53,572 --> 00:38:55,652
in watching these three episodes

808
00:38:56,452 --> 00:38:59,092
following last week with the pilot is.

809
00:38:59,652 --> 00:39:02,052
I am surprised, pleasantly surprised,

810
00:39:02,452 --> 00:39:05,412
that there has been no mention

811
00:39:05,412 --> 00:39:07,412
of Kool Aid in these three episodes.

812
00:39:08,612 --> 00:39:09,252
>> Will: That's right.

813
00:39:10,452 --> 00:39:12,692
>> Sarah : So. Because from the pilot,

814
00:39:13,172 --> 00:39:16,012
you think to yourself, oh, that's gonna be

815
00:39:16,012 --> 00:39:18,792
like, maybe the first half. Half of this season or

816
00:39:18,792 --> 00:39:21,712
something. But no, we. They, like,

817
00:39:22,192 --> 00:39:25,072
they. They're doing a good job. Like, that was the premise.

818
00:39:25,072 --> 00:39:27,912
And I'm sure we'll get there. I'm sure we'll circle

819
00:39:27,912 --> 00:39:30,192
back around to that. But.

820
00:39:30,592 --> 00:39:33,471
But they have plenty of other projects

821
00:39:33,471 --> 00:39:36,192
in the works at various states of being

822
00:39:36,192 --> 00:39:39,152
filmed and everything, so I,

823
00:39:39,412 --> 00:39:42,362
I really think that, that that was a

824
00:39:42,362 --> 00:39:45,162
good choice as well, which leads the,

825
00:39:45,402 --> 00:39:47,962
like, this is still the first season, so

826
00:39:47,962 --> 00:39:50,762
it's. You're still creating this world

827
00:39:50,762 --> 00:39:52,042
in this dynamic.

828
00:39:53,482 --> 00:39:56,402
now. Now for the big reveal. Did I laugh

829
00:39:56,402 --> 00:39:59,362
at any point? No. I don't know what it

830
00:39:59,362 --> 00:40:02,202
is with me in this show. I'm. For some reason,

831
00:40:02,362 --> 00:40:05,242
I like the humor, but I'm not laughing,

832
00:40:05,242 --> 00:40:07,962
if I'm being honest. I don't know why.

833
00:40:07,962 --> 00:40:10,842
>> Will: Maybe. Do you need a. Do you need a laugh track? I mean, I

834
00:40:11,862 --> 00:40:14,662
definitely find myself laughing out loud with this,

835
00:40:14,862 --> 00:40:17,572
show. You know, obviously, like, whenever. With.

836
00:40:17,812 --> 00:40:20,572
When Opie. Opie,

837
00:40:20,572 --> 00:40:23,172
like, taunted Matt. I mean, it was just like,

838
00:40:23,172 --> 00:40:25,732
damn, Opie. Opie's. Opie's an.

839
00:40:27,892 --> 00:40:30,882
But, But, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's. I.

840
00:40:30,962 --> 00:40:33,722
There's. There's definitely. You

841
00:40:33,722 --> 00:40:36,602
know, I think it's. For me, it's just really working

842
00:40:36,602 --> 00:40:39,482
as a satire because I guess, you know, we. We both, like,

843
00:40:39,482 --> 00:40:42,282
watch a lot of. You know, we. We

844
00:40:42,362 --> 00:40:45,362
obviously watch a lot of tv, movies and stuff. What. You know, we

845
00:40:45,362 --> 00:40:48,162
both listen, the various podcasts

846
00:40:48,162 --> 00:40:51,162
about entertainment. Entertainment industry and stuff. So I think

847
00:40:51,162 --> 00:40:54,042
for me, it's just, it's just, I think that's why it's just like

848
00:40:54,042 --> 00:40:57,002
working because it's like all the stuff that like you,

849
00:40:57,402 --> 00:41:00,322
you, you, you see like play out on social

850
00:41:00,322 --> 00:41:03,162
media or in these discussions

851
00:41:03,162 --> 00:41:05,702
that you know, whenever, you know, if we're watching like

852
00:41:05,702 --> 00:41:08,622
Rocha and you know, Jeff Snyder, I'm talking a hot mic or some of those

853
00:41:08,622 --> 00:41:11,622
kind of things like that it to me is, I think that's

854
00:41:11,622 --> 00:41:14,622
why it's just, it's a satire is just working so, so well

855
00:41:14,622 --> 00:41:15,102
for me.

856
00:41:15,422 --> 00:41:15,732
>> Sarah : Yeah.

857
00:41:16,122 --> 00:41:19,082
>> Will: and I have those kind of. But I do have those laugh out loud moments.

858
00:41:19,732 --> 00:41:22,652
you know, not saying like I'm like chuckle fest like all 30 or

859
00:41:22,652 --> 00:41:25,492
40 minutes throughout the episode but whenever,

860
00:41:25,492 --> 00:41:28,452
whatever the moments do, whatever they, whenever they hit for me, they,

861
00:41:28,452 --> 00:41:29,572
they, they, they hit.

862
00:41:30,302 --> 00:41:30,582
>> Sarah : Yeah.

863
00:41:30,582 --> 00:41:33,582
>> Will: I'm just saying that they don't hit for you. Like you said. Maybe it's not, you

864
00:41:33,582 --> 00:41:36,582
know, it's just, you know, it's just how we just express ourselves.

865
00:41:36,582 --> 00:41:39,502
I mean because you just said it, you do find, you do find it

866
00:41:39,502 --> 00:41:40,382
humorous. It's just.

867
00:41:40,462 --> 00:41:43,142
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, I just for

868
00:41:43,142 --> 00:41:45,781
whatever reason, it's like the fact that we all know

869
00:41:45,781 --> 00:41:48,142
you've probably cried at more movies than I have.

870
00:41:48,382 --> 00:41:51,302
>> Will: Yeah, yeah. I'm just more of a. Yeah, I just wear

871
00:41:51,302 --> 00:41:52,542
my emotions on my sleeve.

872
00:41:52,542 --> 00:41:54,462
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, you're much more,

873
00:41:55,262 --> 00:41:58,102
you're much more easy to cry and

874
00:41:58,102 --> 00:42:01,062
laugh and me, I'm much more stubborn and it's

875
00:42:01,062 --> 00:42:04,002
like you're gonn. Okay, you

876
00:42:04,002 --> 00:42:06,682
don't get this for cheap. But

877
00:42:07,882 --> 00:42:10,642
it's just something that I

878
00:42:10,642 --> 00:42:13,602
put out there because a, we

879
00:42:13,602 --> 00:42:16,602
don't cover comedies as much as we

880
00:42:16,602 --> 00:42:19,482
cover other like dramas and

881
00:42:19,642 --> 00:42:22,562
especially genre science fiction and all

882
00:42:22,562 --> 00:42:25,382
of that kind of fantasy as well.

883
00:42:25,942 --> 00:42:28,702
So. And, and arguably I

884
00:42:28,702 --> 00:42:31,042
think, I think comedy

885
00:42:31,602 --> 00:42:34,442
is so much harder just

886
00:42:34,442 --> 00:42:37,402
because we, we all, a lot of like, we

887
00:42:37,402 --> 00:42:40,242
all grew up with the sitcoms, the 30

888
00:42:40,242 --> 00:42:42,922
minute sitcoms and that is not what this

889
00:42:42,922 --> 00:42:43,682
show is.

890
00:42:45,842 --> 00:42:48,562
It's definitely not. However, there

891
00:42:48,562 --> 00:42:51,482
is like a very, there is a familiar

892
00:42:51,482 --> 00:42:53,602
kind of almost officey,

893
00:42:54,472 --> 00:42:57,122
feel about it, where,

894
00:42:57,202 --> 00:43:00,162
where I'm glad they didn't go full documentary

895
00:43:00,562 --> 00:43:03,442
but it is a workplace comedy

896
00:43:03,682 --> 00:43:06,002
and so they,

897
00:43:06,962 --> 00:43:09,922
there is that somewhat familiarity there

898
00:43:09,922 --> 00:43:12,682
but also much more modern and

899
00:43:12,682 --> 00:43:15,602
current and as you said, satire

900
00:43:15,922 --> 00:43:18,482
about it that brings it all in.

901
00:43:19,042 --> 00:43:21,762
And so it, it's just,

902
00:43:21,762 --> 00:43:24,322
it's. And, and I would say

903
00:43:24,402 --> 00:43:27,362
like we talk about the bear, which the bear is

904
00:43:27,362 --> 00:43:30,162
coming back in just a few weeks and we will get to

905
00:43:30,322 --> 00:43:32,322
season four eventually.

906
00:43:34,952 --> 00:43:37,772
and I. The bear,

907
00:43:38,412 --> 00:43:41,332
which I always make fun of Golden Globes because

908
00:43:41,332 --> 00:43:43,652
I'm like, it's a dark

909
00:43:43,652 --> 00:43:46,572
comedy, but I'm like, it's not a comedy.

910
00:43:47,052 --> 00:43:50,052
It's not. It really? Because, yeah,

911
00:43:50,052 --> 00:43:52,852
cousin is funny, and. And there are a few

912
00:43:52,852 --> 00:43:55,372
other characters, like, funny doesn't mean

913
00:43:55,372 --> 00:43:58,332
comedy. I think the studio is more of

914
00:43:58,332 --> 00:43:59,612
a comedy than bears.

915
00:44:00,172 --> 00:44:01,532
>> Will: Oh, yeah, totally. Totally.

916
00:44:01,532 --> 00:44:03,292
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah, it definitely is.

917
00:44:04,012 --> 00:44:06,412
>> Will: Yeah. I mean, what if for. For next

918
00:44:06,892 --> 00:44:09,772
cycle of the Emmys. I mean, this. This show is definitely going

919
00:44:09,772 --> 00:44:12,752
to be, Will

920
00:44:12,832 --> 00:44:15,672
be in the comedy category correctly,

921
00:44:15,672 --> 00:44:18,542
and m. You know, and maybe give, Oh, gosh,

922
00:44:18,542 --> 00:44:20,022
Justin. What? The show with Gene Smart.

923
00:44:23,282 --> 00:44:26,172
yeah. Hex. Yeah. yeah, you know,

924
00:44:26,172 --> 00:44:28,612
this. This will give. Probably get. Finally give Hacks a run for the money.

925
00:44:29,492 --> 00:44:32,212
>> Sarah : Well, I mean, hacks just had it easy.

926
00:44:32,212 --> 00:44:34,772
Hacks hasn't been on air for that long. It's already.

927
00:44:35,092 --> 00:44:37,772
It's. What. How many seasons is Hackson?

928
00:44:37,772 --> 00:44:39,412
>> Will: I think it's second. Third.

929
00:44:39,972 --> 00:44:41,012
>> Sarah : I think it's third.

930
00:44:41,572 --> 00:44:42,052
>> Will: Yeah.

931
00:44:42,372 --> 00:44:45,212
>> Sarah : Which it. It only won last year because

932
00:44:45,212 --> 00:44:48,212
the bear was out of running because it had a horrible third season.

933
00:44:48,742 --> 00:44:51,702
Yeah, yeah, so. So

934
00:44:51,702 --> 00:44:54,582
the. Because it's. It's really the bear that has been

935
00:44:54,582 --> 00:44:57,542
sweeping them for the last, like, two years

936
00:44:57,702 --> 00:45:00,182
in that category. So. So.

937
00:45:02,262 --> 00:45:04,582
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, true. Yeah. I was gonna say that

938
00:45:04,982 --> 00:45:06,422
Abbott elementary is another one.

939
00:45:06,502 --> 00:45:09,302
>> Sarah : Yes. Yeah, Abbott. Abbott elementary

940
00:45:09,622 --> 00:45:11,222
is definitely up there.

941
00:45:12,652 --> 00:45:15,222
so. Which I'm glad. I think,

942
00:45:15,542 --> 00:45:18,502
over saturation, we talk about a lot and.

943
00:45:18,982 --> 00:45:21,942
Which I'm sure the studio is going to reference at some

944
00:45:21,942 --> 00:45:22,262
point,

945
00:45:26,182 --> 00:45:28,862
especially in a genre of film and

946
00:45:28,862 --> 00:45:31,782
TV that we love to talk about, so

947
00:45:32,022 --> 00:45:32,422
I.

948
00:45:32,422 --> 00:45:33,422
>> Will: Can'T wait for that one.

949
00:45:33,422 --> 00:45:36,422
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And

950
00:45:36,422 --> 00:45:39,302
then Antony Starr shows up. That would be great,

951
00:45:41,702 --> 00:45:44,662
because, you know, I think there really needs

952
00:45:44,662 --> 00:45:47,502
to be a boys cameo. Like, not a

953
00:45:47,502 --> 00:45:50,342
full boys cameo, but just

954
00:45:50,342 --> 00:45:52,342
because of the satire of it all.

955
00:45:52,982 --> 00:45:55,742
>> Will: Yeah, Maybe. Maybe season two. Maybe either

956
00:45:55,742 --> 00:45:58,491
Antony Starr or, Or

957
00:45:58,491 --> 00:46:01,082
Eric Kripke or, Or

958
00:46:01,722 --> 00:46:04,572
even get, you know, Carl Urban, you

959
00:46:04,572 --> 00:46:05,452
know, just show up.

960
00:46:06,012 --> 00:46:07,692
>> Sarah : Right? Yeah. Yeah.

961
00:46:07,692 --> 00:46:09,212
>> Will: Those would be the three I would like to see.

962
00:46:09,752 --> 00:46:11,112
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah.

963
00:46:11,272 --> 00:46:14,192
>> Will: So Jack Clear would be too. Too easy, too

964
00:46:14,192 --> 00:46:14,632
obvious.

965
00:46:15,272 --> 00:46:17,512
>> Sarah : Yeah. So that. Well, they're probably gonna do it.

966
00:46:18,072 --> 00:46:20,752
>> Will: Yeah, yeah. I mean, the show has been renewed for a second

967
00:46:20,752 --> 00:46:21,592
season, so.

968
00:46:21,592 --> 00:46:24,552
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. So it's. Whether it

969
00:46:24,552 --> 00:46:27,432
wins big awards or not, it's

970
00:46:27,512 --> 00:46:29,512
definitely gonna get a second season.

971
00:46:30,732 --> 00:46:33,652
yeah, but. But yeah, and

972
00:46:33,652 --> 00:46:36,332
we will just next week, continue with the next

973
00:46:36,592 --> 00:46:39,552
three episodes wherever they may take us.

974
00:46:39,552 --> 00:46:42,402
And, Because you wanted to move the news to the

975
00:46:42,402 --> 00:46:45,342
Bottom. you have a last

976
00:46:45,342 --> 00:46:46,942
of us season three update.

977
00:46:47,902 --> 00:46:50,751
>> Will: Yeah, just a. Just a real quick one as we, As we

978
00:46:50,751 --> 00:46:53,242
wrap up here, with news. So,

979
00:46:53,612 --> 00:46:55,832
as we. The

980
00:46:56,312 --> 00:46:59,272
last of us, the. The showrunners, and,

981
00:47:00,262 --> 00:47:02,982
Bella were at a FYC event. Since

982
00:47:02,982 --> 00:47:05,742
we're. Since we were just talking. Talking Emmys and

983
00:47:05,742 --> 00:47:08,532
whatnot. And, So, did give us a

984
00:47:08,532 --> 00:47:11,432
little, update on possible third season.

985
00:47:12,712 --> 00:47:15,592
they did confirm that it will be. Will be

986
00:47:16,232 --> 00:47:17,272
Abby's season.

987
00:47:17,912 --> 00:47:17,952
>> Sarah : yeah.

988
00:47:17,952 --> 00:47:20,812
>> Will: And. Yeah. and, you know, I think Neil

989
00:47:20,812 --> 00:47:23,572
Druckmann just basically said this past season was very hot.

990
00:47:23,572 --> 00:47:26,332
This. And this one, he said it's going to be like a wetter

991
00:47:26,332 --> 00:47:29,232
season. So I don't know what he meant by that, but I guess, you

992
00:47:29,232 --> 00:47:31,872
know, obviously it'll be telling the story from. From. From

993
00:47:31,872 --> 00:47:34,802
Abby's perspective. and he's like, you

994
00:47:34,802 --> 00:47:37,682
know, he's like. It's a more a quote. It's more of a drink

995
00:47:37,682 --> 00:47:39,842
of water season than a fire season.

996
00:47:40,322 --> 00:47:43,202
Mazen backed him up. I'm reading from an article from Vulture.

997
00:47:43,522 --> 00:47:46,402
It's a wetter season than a hotter season, and anyone who plays video

998
00:47:46,402 --> 00:47:49,202
games knows water levels are a pain in the butt. So

999
00:47:49,442 --> 00:47:51,222
I, haven't played the game, but we'll see.

1000
00:47:53,862 --> 00:47:56,702
yeah, I'm trying to see if there's any other. Other notes. I

1001
00:47:56,702 --> 00:47:59,622
mean, basically. Oh, they. Seems like the script hasn't

1002
00:47:59,622 --> 00:48:02,612
been finished yet, from the fyc, from the. From the

1003
00:48:02,612 --> 00:48:04,212
interview that I've written here.

1004
00:48:05,652 --> 00:48:08,402
but, So, yeah, it's going to be a while before. Before we get to

1005
00:48:08,402 --> 00:48:11,362
it, but as

1006
00:48:11,362 --> 00:48:14,202
we suspected. So. But yeah, that. That just.

1007
00:48:14,202 --> 00:48:17,022
That was just a little thing I just happened to see today. it

1008
00:48:17,022 --> 00:48:19,862
was, mentioned. Mentioned

1009
00:48:19,862 --> 00:48:21,222
at their fyc,

1010
00:48:23,472 --> 00:48:26,472
presentation as they are, you know, getting ramping

1011
00:48:26,472 --> 00:48:27,912
up for Emmy, nomination season.

1012
00:48:30,712 --> 00:48:32,952
>> Sarah : Yeah. Pedro's gonna get nominated.

1013
00:48:33,512 --> 00:48:36,512
Oh, probably. Probably. The show will probably get nominated.

1014
00:48:36,512 --> 00:48:39,512
I don't think it'll win. It was so controversial this

1015
00:48:39,512 --> 00:48:42,462
season. nor do I necessarily think

1016
00:48:42,462 --> 00:48:44,902
it should win. but

1017
00:48:45,782 --> 00:48:48,182
Pedro will probably win if.

1018
00:48:48,582 --> 00:48:51,302
Depending on, like, what the competition is.

1019
00:48:51,702 --> 00:48:52,182
>> Will: Yeah.

1020
00:48:52,402 --> 00:48:55,172
>> Sarah : but I. I expect him to be nominated

1021
00:48:55,172 --> 00:48:57,812
and potentially. Potentially win.

1022
00:48:58,432 --> 00:49:01,022
yeah, Mao, that was a massive, like,

1023
00:49:01,342 --> 00:49:04,212
big giveaway. had no idea that it would be

1024
00:49:04,212 --> 00:49:04,892
Abby season.

1025
00:49:05,692 --> 00:49:08,372
>> Will: Like, well, shocking for.

1026
00:49:08,372 --> 00:49:11,242
Shocking. Not shocking for folks who have played the game,

1027
00:49:11,242 --> 00:49:14,202
but for folks who are. Who. Who

1028
00:49:14,442 --> 00:49:15,802
never have played the game.

1029
00:49:16,282 --> 00:49:19,242
>> Sarah : No, you can't. You can't say that because,

1030
00:49:19,242 --> 00:49:22,242
you know. You know that if you haven't Played the game and

1031
00:49:22,242 --> 00:49:24,922
you've watched this show and you're obsessed with this show

1032
00:49:25,162 --> 00:49:27,962
or even if this season you have

1033
00:49:28,042 --> 00:49:30,682
talked to people like Will, you

1034
00:49:30,682 --> 00:49:32,922
yourself spoiled yourself with some stuff.

1035
00:49:35,482 --> 00:49:38,302
I. I just, I'm like no, no, no.

1036
00:49:38,292 --> 00:49:41,172
I. By the end of that anybody. Regardless, it was.

1037
00:49:41,252 --> 00:49:44,252
It's pretty much you have to be

1038
00:49:44,252 --> 00:49:46,772
very low intellect to not

1039
00:49:47,652 --> 00:49:48,452
realize what.

1040
00:49:48,452 --> 00:49:51,172
>> Will: Yeah, true, true. But, but

1041
00:49:51,572 --> 00:49:53,972
the main reason why I brought it up when I saw the article

1042
00:49:54,211 --> 00:49:57,052
today, I, I really brought it up because I just have. I

1043
00:49:57,052 --> 00:49:59,812
thought back to our conversation about the show a few weeks ago

1044
00:50:00,852 --> 00:50:01,252
and.

1045
00:50:01,572 --> 00:50:03,412
>> Sarah : And will hate season two.

1046
00:50:04,502 --> 00:50:07,422
>> Will: Yeah, it's. It's. Well, I was

1047
00:50:07,422 --> 00:50:09,542
thinking more to the point how

1048
00:50:10,982 --> 00:50:13,942
I, I really. Your,

1049
00:50:13,942 --> 00:50:16,942
your, your call I think was going to be correct where that ah,

1050
00:50:16,942 --> 00:50:19,862
they should have done Abby Story Season 2 and then.

1051
00:50:20,662 --> 00:50:23,652
Yeah, and that's why I brought that up today because I was

1052
00:50:23,652 --> 00:50:26,612
just like. When I saw that I was like. I just, I just wanted, I

1053
00:50:26,612 --> 00:50:28,902
just wanted to get it on the record just like

1054
00:50:29,302 --> 00:50:32,042
that. I, think you're right that

1055
00:50:32,282 --> 00:50:35,162
I said it maybe I m even may have said a couple weeks back,

1056
00:50:35,162 --> 00:50:37,802
but definitely just wanted to reiterate that

1057
00:50:37,962 --> 00:50:40,882
you're right. I think they, when they. When all is said and

1058
00:50:40,882 --> 00:50:43,842
done, we'll. Whenever we look back on this, on

1059
00:50:43,842 --> 00:50:46,722
the series, we'll say

1060
00:50:46,722 --> 00:50:49,642
that they made a misstep by not having Abby's story

1061
00:50:49,642 --> 00:50:50,682
first in season two.

1062
00:50:51,482 --> 00:50:54,212
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. And. And

1063
00:50:54,212 --> 00:50:56,772
that. That's. I think that's

1064
00:50:57,012 --> 00:50:59,652
arguably regardless of how season

1065
00:50:59,652 --> 00:51:02,052
three even goes. But

1066
00:51:03,012 --> 00:51:05,972
I see why they did it. They just. For whatever reason

1067
00:51:05,972 --> 00:51:08,972
they made so many more creative choices in

1068
00:51:08,972 --> 00:51:11,412
season one that

1069
00:51:11,732 --> 00:51:14,612
for what. For some reason they stuck

1070
00:51:14,932 --> 00:51:17,492
way too much to the script in season two

1071
00:51:18,382 --> 00:51:20,782
and there was arguably not as much

1072
00:51:20,862 --> 00:51:23,862
creativity which led to kind

1073
00:51:23,862 --> 00:51:26,702
of a. And. And

1074
00:51:26,942 --> 00:51:29,662
arguably the first

1075
00:51:30,062 --> 00:51:32,902
game had less of

1076
00:51:32,902 --> 00:51:35,622
a controversial opinion. It's more

1077
00:51:35,622 --> 00:51:38,542
beloved than the second game. So you

1078
00:51:38,542 --> 00:51:40,862
would have thought they would have

1079
00:51:41,182 --> 00:51:43,982
made more creative choices with the second game

1080
00:51:43,982 --> 00:51:46,982
considering the feedback that the game players

1081
00:51:47,142 --> 00:51:49,302
had. M. So

1082
00:51:49,782 --> 00:51:52,502
I, I don't know. But then again

1083
00:51:52,502 --> 00:51:54,662
I, I mean at the end of the day

1084
00:51:55,302 --> 00:51:58,062
the creatives behind this show in this

1085
00:51:58,062 --> 00:52:00,982
game, like they are really.

1086
00:52:00,982 --> 00:52:03,902
I'm not saying they are stupid. They are very creative

1087
00:52:03,902 --> 00:52:06,262
and very talented people.

1088
00:52:07,462 --> 00:52:09,942
I just don't know why.

1089
00:52:10,982 --> 00:52:13,722
Why they didn't make sense some choices that they did.

1090
00:52:13,722 --> 00:52:16,562
And once you think about it

1091
00:52:16,562 --> 00:52:19,322
and realize how this could have

1092
00:52:19,322 --> 00:52:21,962
gone if they had just swapped the

1093
00:52:21,962 --> 00:52:22,722
perspectives

1094
00:52:24,882 --> 00:52:27,762
like, like it. Arguably

1095
00:52:28,082 --> 00:52:30,322
it. It could make a better story. But

1096
00:52:30,802 --> 00:52:33,742
we We shall see. We're still on board with

1097
00:52:33,742 --> 00:52:34,462
it. It's just.

1098
00:52:34,462 --> 00:52:34,982
>> Will: Oh, yeah.

1099
00:52:34,982 --> 00:52:37,862
>> Sarah : Oh, yeah, yeah. And who knows? His hiatus,

1100
00:52:37,862 --> 00:52:40,822
the fact that the third season hasn't even been fully

1101
00:52:40,822 --> 00:52:42,542
written. I'm like, what are you guys doing?

1102
00:52:44,362 --> 00:52:47,162
So much time to write seasons two and three.

1103
00:52:47,802 --> 00:52:50,402
>> Will: Yeah. And Kate, Deborah's like, engaged. She's

1104
00:52:50,402 --> 00:52:53,402
filming Godzilla, a Godzilla movie right now. So, you

1105
00:52:53,402 --> 00:52:56,202
know, so it's gonna. Yeah. So again,

1106
00:52:56,282 --> 00:52:59,002
it'll be like, you know, 20, 30 by the time we get the third season.

1107
00:52:59,562 --> 00:53:02,282
>> Sarah : Oh, no, no. That's when the next Spider man

1108
00:53:02,282 --> 00:53:05,242
across the universe or beyond the universe, we're gonna get. We're

1109
00:53:05,242 --> 00:53:07,562
gonna get season three of the Last of Us before that.

1110
00:53:07,882 --> 00:53:08,562
Trust me.

1111
00:53:08,562 --> 00:53:09,002
>> Will: Yeah.

1112
00:53:11,542 --> 00:53:14,462
>> Sarah : All right, well, on that note, Will, why don't you tell our listeners where they

1113
00:53:14,462 --> 00:53:15,222
can find you?

1114
00:53:15,942 --> 00:53:18,742
>> Will: Yes, you can find me on all the socials at Will

1115
00:53:18,742 --> 00:53:21,622
and Polk. W I L L M P O.

1116
00:53:21,622 --> 00:53:24,302
>> Sarah : L K. And you find me there, too at S.J.

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1122
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