WE RANKED THE TOP 5 TV SHOWS OF 2025 & 2026 PREVIEW

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Sarah : Foreign. Nerds. This is scene A Nerd. I'm your

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host, Sarah Belmont and with me as always is our

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Mr. Producer, will Will Polk Carry doing tonight.

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Will.

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Will: Doing very well, Sarah. How you doing this

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evening?

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Sarah : I'm doing fine. It is currently. Hold on, wait for

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it. Negative 27 outside. Pretty sure it was

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negative 30 at some point today.

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Will: Yeah, well, it's a little chilly here. But we're

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here to talk about the best of 2025 and, and what

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we're looking forward to 2026.

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Sarah : So in case you are new here, this is the annual

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list and, and there's going to be more than one

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list happening for 2025. I can guarantee you that

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from at least me. But we will start with the

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traditional top five TV shows. Now these do not

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have to be TV shows that we have covered this

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year. They can be anything. But the rule is the

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show has to have premiered in 2025. Granted,

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Stranger Things will be an option for 2026. Okay.

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Just saying 2026 because their season is not over

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yet and it is a pretty good start but and it, and

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it's favorite best however you want to interpret

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that there are no parameters. As long as the show

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premiered this year and the episodes aired this

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year, they will be accepted as a part of our list.

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And so on that note, I will and we will do

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honorable mentions but after no spoilers. Oh,

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speaking about spoilers, can I do this asterisk

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And Will, you can, you can deny this, but I, I

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say. I'm sorry guys but we're talking about some

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of our favorite shows we've seen this year. So

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spoilers for anything. Yeah, anything and

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everything.

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Will: Spoiler alert is on. So you have been, you have

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been warned. You know, if you hear something that

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you haven't watched while we're giving our back

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and forth on the list, feel free to move forward.

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Try to do my best to put some timestamps in so you

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can, we can, we can you know, you don't get

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spoiled. But I got a few assets too for our video

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watchers if you listen on to us on audio, just you

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know, do your best. We will try not to spoil. Well

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to let you know when we, we do the transitions

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between each, each of our picks. But yeah, and,

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but yeah, spoilers. Spoiler of the head. And also

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you know, this is our list and we want you know,

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please share, please let us know what you know,

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your thoughts on what we put together and also

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some of your favorites.

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Sarah : From the year, what we missed because I, I pay

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attention to other People's lists, whether it's

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movies, TV shows, or even music. And I always

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managed to find something I missed. And then I, I

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think to myself at the end of the following year,

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oh, if only I could pose behind. Right, well that

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brings us to my list then. I'm going to start us

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off. I don't know if Will has drafted a. I think

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this is what Sarah is going to do, but this was a

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last minute decision and it came down to just me

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being true to my heart. And I don't think it would

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be appropriate for my list not to have nobody

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wants this season two on it. Arguably, arguably

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and I don't know with some other shows out there,

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but I've definitely rewatched this show multiple

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times. I, I even, I think when I first it came

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out, the second season came out in October and by

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the time we, we between it airy coming out and us

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talking, I think I said like, yeah, I, I managed

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to finish it but I, I lapped it and then I went

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back watched season one, led into season two and

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I, I feel like I went at least three times. There,

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there is something point one, why I adore this

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show. Chemistry. The cast not just talking, Adam

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Brody and Criston Bell, the cast all around,

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excellent chemistry. It just works. There's an

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episode in this season where for a fair part of

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it, the, the six couples this, of this season are

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just playing a game of kind of like a, a secret

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sharing game. And it was just so fascinating,

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like, can we just be here and there? My point

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number two, the honesty of the writing. These are

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real relationships from a lot of different

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perspectives. Whether it's a new relationship,

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whether that you've been married for 16 years and

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you're suddenly like, who am I? Who am I? Like a

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part of this relationship outside of this

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relationship, you start to go through that there,

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there's people who are still trying to find their,

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their person. And so I, I feel as though there's a

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lot of identity that people can find in these

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characters and identify with. And between that,

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the, the, the comedy and I think my, my third

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point and my final point about the show and why I

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am just obsessed with it is nostalgia. And I say

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nostalgia because I grew up in the time of this

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little indie show called Friends. I grew up with

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Will and Grace. I grew up with Home Improvement. I

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grew up like, there's something about those half

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hour sitcoms that the further we got out of the

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2000s, the, the further they started to dissipate

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and just not be like the 90s, the late 80s through

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the 90s was like the gold standard of the sitcom

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and then it kind of dissipated. And this show

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isn't necessarily a sitcom, but I feel as though

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because it's a half hour, it is a comedy and it is

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just about life in general. I feel it like it's a

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very modern sitcom. And the closest thing that

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I've seen that just, just is like, allows like a,

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a subtle comfort to also watching it. So that's

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why I just, I, I adore the show. Say what you will

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about how it ends in season two. I have rewatched

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it multiple times and I have accepted the ending

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and I think it was the right choice.

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Will: So I'm saying fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah, I

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know you've talked about this one, quite, quite a

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bit. I know it's one of your, one of your comfort

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shows or favorites. Yeah. So does not surprise me

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that, that it is on your list. So I guess it's my

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turn for my number five. All right. So for me, my

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show, and again we have not, both of us are going

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to go into this completely cold not knowing what

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the other person is going to click. Sarah probably

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will not be surprised when I say the studio was my

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fifth ranked show for 2025. And this is one of

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those ones where honestly I know we, we were, it

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was in late spring and we were sort of in between

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things, but we both had heard a lot of

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conversation about, about this show and it's on

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Apple TV and we decided to give it a go. And I

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have to say, for me, I think one of the reasons

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why this show really spoke to me as far as just

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one of my top ones for the year was I love satire.

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I really enjoy a good satire and this one was just

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a sharp satire of Hollywood ego power. I mean,

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Matt Remick, as far as Seth Roge's character

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insecurity, that felt, that felt really real and

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grounded. And so I think it was that plus it was

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just a really good ensemble show where, and I know

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we don't do as much news as we used to do here on

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the podcast as far as like what's, what was

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premiering and those types of things. But you

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know, but we both enjoy like listening to the, a

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lot of podcasts, whether it's on the ringer or

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other, other industry themed shows and, and the

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sort of scuttlebutt. So you know, so for me this

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like, it was like cool to have a show that not

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only had the, you know, the Nice ensemble that

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sort of had that nice balance between the comedy

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and the industry entry. Also it did pull the

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curtain back a little bit in some respects of like

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how creative decisions are made or. And I know

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we've had, when we were having discussions about

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the show, you know, we could like see things that

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we've talked, you know, talked about over the

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years as far as projects being developed or cast

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casting, maybe one person getting picked versus

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another person and then just all the, you know,

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you know, is it. It's fiction stranger than truth

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or truth stranger than fiction type of elements

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that you know, this show I think really really

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captured some of the things and you know, and

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again, you know, given our nature of things that

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we talk about here, for me it was just very

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rewarding almost to you know, see things that you

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know, like as I was just saying, some of the jokes

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really didn't land for me because it's like, oh

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yeah, I remember, I remember like this happening

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in you know, with XYZ project or something like

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that. And then also, you know, it was just a very

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funny show. I mean I think about like when

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Will Polk Dano was like playing that one character

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with the, with the, you know, they were filming

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like a adventure kind of throwback to some of the

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80s action adventure films and, and, and how that.

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And the whole sequence there as far as like with,

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with, with. With the. Matt Remnick, Seth. Seth

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Roga's character and, and the produce, the direct

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producer of that film they were making really,

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really was just very funny. And also just you

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know, of course Bryan Cranston and his is always

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just, you know, on point with his comedic chops

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and, and, and, and, and also just really Matt,

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Matt's you know, just insecurity as I mentioned

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before and, and, and just feelings of just wanting

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to belong and, and, and you know, I think about

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you know the whole Golden Globes night with where

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It just became just a big joke about how what the.

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Matt's partner in the studio became like a running

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line as far as every, every night they kept

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thinking everyone. They kept thanking the guy and

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then Ian Buckle's character and but you know, Matt

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was just sort of sitting there and you know he

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just, just wanted to be loved and, and he just,

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and that was going to be his big moment. But it

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still just kind of felt so. Just really, really

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enjoyed the show. It's just one, you know, you

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know, it's one of those things where you know,

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something sticks with you. This is one of those

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shows that stuck with me throughout the year as I

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was putting together my list. And so that's why

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it's my fifth rank show. I know you were. I was

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definitely more on it than you were.

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Sarah : But I. I do still stand by Casting is the best

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episode of that season. And yes, I say that over

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the pilot, which won Emmys, but I still think

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casting should have won those Emmys. I'm just

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saying. Just say that was. That was like the peak

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of that show for me.

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Will: Yeah.

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Sarah : All right. That leads us into. It'll be

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interesting how much overlap happens.

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Will: Yeah.

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Sarah : And I say that because my next show you have not

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seen. And, And. And we know this because I've

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brought it up a few times that every time you're

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like, I still haven't watched it. It's the Pit

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season one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's. I could

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not not have this on my list because I was

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thinking about it and I do know I've been critical

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about the Pit season one. I don't think it

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deserves necessarily all of the accolades that

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it's received, but I do remember watching it. I

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have thought about it since watching it. And I

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also am really looking forward to season two

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because they do set up two characters. Neither one

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are played by Noah Wiley. I'm just gonna note

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that. That I am really interested to see how their

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story continues and it.

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Will: It.

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Sarah : Again, the nostalgia I grew up with Eeyore was so

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a part of my life for a period of time because of

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when I would get out of school. or. Or I felt like

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it was always on tnt. It was just always on tnt.

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And there were some. Some, like, once I got caught

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up on it, I remember being in middle school and

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watching the newer episodes as they aired on

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Thursday nights. And, it's just so. And the Pit is

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not er. The Pit is not Grey's Anatomy, but it is

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also very much called back. Like. Like, I like how

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between my previous show and this show, they're.

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comfort and such an interesting aspect. Like the.

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workplace comedy. We've had plenty of those over

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the years. But a true workplace drama that doesn't

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go too far into the melodrama because. And it's

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not a soap opera. It's like, as authentic as it

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can be of this is what a full shift in the R would

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be like on arguably. And because it's television,

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one of the worst days that it could happen,

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considering what ends up unfolding in that Shift.

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But it is a. I do think it is something that

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people should watch and check out and I will do a

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disclaimer about it. There is an episode and I say

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this to prepare y' all for it because if you're

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not prepared, you will get a jump scare. And it is

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arguably the worst jump scare you will ever get

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because you're literally gonna see someone push a

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baby out of their vagina. They do cut to it. Okay,

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so don't look. If you see a woman come in and

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she's pregnant, just. Just play it in the

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background and do not look at the screen. Okay?

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Will: You've been war.

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Sarah : You've been war. Like if you can't.

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Will: If you can't handle it, then.

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Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because this is in a. This is in

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a. It's arguably we've covered ironically a lot of

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bursts over the years. We have that. No, they.

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They. You. So. So none quite like that. But yeah,

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number four is the pit. It was. It was hard for me

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because I was like, does this. Should this go

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over? Nobody wants this season two. And because

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they're hour long episodes and they, they really

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are well written and well directed. That's

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something I don't know if it's a lot of people

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talk about, but because it's a workplace,

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workplace drama and you're in the AR and you're

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constantly moving in and out of rooms and spaces,

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the camera work is amazing and it's very well

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directed television show. I, I just, I had to put

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it above the, the heartwarming romantic comedy

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show. So yeah, that's my number four pick.

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Will: All right. All right, well, so we're not going to

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definitely not have at least for these first two

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picks. No, no overlap. But I. My number four show

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is one that I just recently did a rewatch of and I

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think it definitely solidified this spot for me.

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And that's paradise. This. I really, really,

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really enjoyed the show. It was definitely one

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that was, It started off the year with a bang. You

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know, it's definitely a kind of a slow burn,

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mystery box type of show that really trusted, at

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least for me as an audience member as it kept me

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engaged in a way that was. Trusted me as a viewer

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to stay engaged without over explaining things. I

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mean it was pretty straightforward as far as, you

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know, using the, you know, the, the nonlinear

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story storytelling elements to. To his advantage.

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And you know, I did not. What I did watch a little

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bit of this is Us. Who was. Who was all who the

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app Algerman. Who is the Executive producer behind

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paradise also was the ep the showrunner for. For

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that. But it definitely worked. You know, strong

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performances across the board. I mean you could

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definitely see that being reflected now in an

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award season with nominations for. For m. Most of

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the cast from Sterling K. Brown to Juliana

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Nicholson to James Marson as well. And you know

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but also it really the strong performances to me

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help ground the high concept premise which

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basically cataclysmic event had happened on the

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planet and all these folks end up in a bunker that

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was constructed for their. For the top presenters.

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And then of course the President gets murdered and

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then it becomes a murder mystery to try to figure

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out what's going on in the site in this science

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fiction construct which I really really, you know

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really thought it was, was really done. Well

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there's definitely some world building that took

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place as. As the season progressed and, and things

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learning about the backgrounds of these characters

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and their motivations and how they got to where

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they are the. And and then one thing too that you

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know is a show that just lingered. I mean there

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was the one episode that's a built up to the day

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of when the Everything ended. Definitely is one of

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those moments that stands out for me as far as

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just shows that words stands out as a. As moments

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for you know an episode of television of 2025 is

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you know to this day. And even when I rewatched it

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with my wife it was, I mean you know it was hard.

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You know I knew it was coming but just to see her

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reaction to it when everything went down. And for

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me it was as on the rewatch where I was like yeah,

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this is still just as impactful on a rewatch as it

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was the first time I viewed it definitely is why

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it definitely is in my top five shows for this

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year. So yeah, paradise is fourth on my list and

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season two is going to be coming out here shortly.

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Sarah : Yeah, I'm going to save my thoughts on paradise

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for later in the show and I predict there will be

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one crossover.

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Will: I do too.

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Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah. I, I think our listeners, if

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you've been following us this past year, you know

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what show it'll be. it'll be interesting if it's

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in the same spot on both of our lists. That's,

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that's the clincher. I don't know about that.

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Well, There might be two now that I. There might

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be two. Okay, so that brings us into a non

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overlap. this is also my prediction. I don't think

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this is on your list. It is on my list, very

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predictable, very standard Bear season four. I now

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this might shock people because I have not talked

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about the Bear season four since we covered it in

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July. But we all know how I feel about the bear,

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specifically season two.

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Will: Yeah, yeah.

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Sarah : And I did. I was very enthusiastic about the Bear

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season four when it first came out. I laughed it.

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And specifically you got the Worms episode. You

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have the, and then this, specifically the season

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finale. Like there are so many episodes that every

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time I'm like, oh, I think that was the best one.

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Then I think about worms or then I think about the

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wedding episode. And there this season, I think

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there's still the rain cloud that was season three

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holding over it. And so it, and also season two

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set such a freaking high bar that it's so hard to

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get back there that I totally understand the

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continued criticism of it. But I do think it was a

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return to form. I do think that in hindsight it

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will be stand out as a better season than it

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currently does. Just because I, I really, and I

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think I said this when we initially were talking

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about our thoughts about season four is that it's

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a return to form because I feel like it matches

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what I took away from season one and season one. I

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was not that high on. I watched it, I liked it. I

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didn't understand everyone's high praise. Now

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season two got me, Season two got me so hard. I

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feel like I watched nothing but see the Bear for

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like a month straight. Just moms that I, I, I

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don't know how many times I have rewatched the

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Bear season two. Then going into season three. Oh,

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it was so, it was, it was just hard to watch

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because you're just like, we're just standing

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still. There was no movement and no progression.

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And that's really what you watch TV for. You watch

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character development, you watch stories

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unfolding. And it felt so, so stagnant that

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initially I feel like the first couple of episodes

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felt that way with season four. But then things

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started moving. This characters made decisions and

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finally in that season finale, specific, like the

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three central characters all said what we have

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been waiting for them to say out loud. And it was

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beautiful. I love me just a, one shot episode and

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I'm, I'm, I'm so still on board with this show and

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I really hope that we get like the next season

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will match season two energy and we can, maybe one

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or two seasons, I don't really know, but we can

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start to wrap this up before we kill it because I

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don't Want this show to die.

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Will: Yeah, yeah.

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Sarah : But so that is why it's on my list. And, and then

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you would think, well, that's a pretty high

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placement for a show that I technically have not

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talked about that much this year. And it's a high

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placement because I, know that if, if we didn't

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were onslaughted with a bunch of TV during the

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second half of this year, I probably would have

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been Rew the Bear. If reality TV shows didn't come

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a swing in during the second half of the year for

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me, I probably would have done countless

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rewatches. Life just got in the way. But I, I do.

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The more I think about the show and what I felt

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about it while watching it, the more there are

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several episodes in that season that are just some

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of the best television I've seen this year. So

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that is my pick for number three.

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Will: Nice. Nice. Well, I, I will say we will not

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overlap with Bear. It definitely will get the

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honorable mentions, but it definitely. I'll. I'll

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hold my comments on. On Bear season four until

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then. But a show that probably will be an overlap

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is for me my third of severance. And it. So I came

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to severance late. I did not watch it when it

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first premiered on Apple TV back in, I want to say

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2022, 2023. But. And of course we, you know, we

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did not cover it real time when it aired earlier

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this year. But. But it, it definitely met.

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Exceeded my expectations. I did a rewatch of

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season one before watching season two and, and

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this show is still just, you know, an office

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setting and you would think that it would be not

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very visually striking, but that starkness and the

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sets that they have, you know, worked works

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towards the advantage, to its advantage. And you

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know, and one of the things that this season

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really did for me was it just deepen the

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exploration of identity and workplace dynamics and

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corporate greed and corporate, you know, how

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workers are just cogs in the corporate machine and

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how it. Especially towards the back end as we were

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learning more about what Mark was working on as he

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was trying to get reintegrated and we learned the

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story about Gemma and how, you know, we've learned

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that she's actually is, you know, we, we had the

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she's alive moment but then they like, you know,

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waited to really follow up on all that. Not until

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the seventh episode. But you know, how the second

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season started with the, you know, it was just

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solely on the Innies and then, and then we in an

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episode. The next episode was focused on the

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Audis. And it just, you know, narrative, it really

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took a lot of swings, but it, but it did it in a

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way that didn't play safe. And, and even in

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hindsight. Now, I know I was very critical of the

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episode of, with Michelle, but it was, it was

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still now that, you know, and I was, at the time I

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was like, well, you know, they kind of sprinkled,

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you know, Harmony Story throughout, you know,

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other episodes. But, you know, now that we. But

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seeing it in its entirety did work as a complete,

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whole cohesive unit. And so I think between that

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just the performances, you know, across the board

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with the cast was just, you know, phenomenal. It

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definitely elevated, the surreal material. And,

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and, and, you know, whenever they were, whenever

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they went to the forest to, to have their

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excursion was. And, and we see the moment there.

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You know, of course, the whole issues with Heli

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and Helena and learning how Helena, had

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masqueraded as Heli and to just learn more about

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what was going on. I mean, it was just so. It was

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such proof of concept again that prestige sci fi

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television can be both unsettling and also

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emotionally resonant. So for me, Severance season

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two was my. It was just phenomenal block of season

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of television. And, and, and I really, really

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enjoyed it.

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Sarah : It's too low on your list because it's number two

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on mine. Severance season two is number two on my

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list. So everybody fast forward through Will,

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because Severance should be the top of the top. I

489
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know what you put above it, and that's why I'm

490
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,160
mad. I know what you did. I know what you're. I

491
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,540
know the game you're about to play, and it bothers

492
00:28:44,540 --> 00:28:47,060
me. And you do this because you know it will piss

493
00:28:47,060 --> 00:28:52,230
me. To each their own. Severance, season two is my

494
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:56,950
number two choice because of the episode Bardot.

495
00:28:57,270 --> 00:28:59,830
And if I mispronounce that, well, screw y', all,

496
00:28:59,990 --> 00:29:03,510
because that's how I pronounce it. This episode of

497
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:07,310
television is, first of all, my favorite episode

498
00:29:07,310 --> 00:29:11,920
of this entire series. Second of all, it is also

499
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,440
arguably my favorite episode of television this

500
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:22,880
year. And it's so weird because arguably you think

501
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,760
that, like, that's the best episode of the season.

502
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,680
And then you're reminded of the finale is so good

503
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,640
and you're. Or you're reminded of the first

504
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,480
episode, or you're reminded of any scene that

505
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,640
Milchick is in. Milchick is my MVP of this season.

506
00:29:39,590 --> 00:29:46,670
But just all of our thoughts about the finale. If

507
00:29:46,670 --> 00:29:49,270
you go back and listen to our discussion about the

508
00:29:49,270 --> 00:29:53,430
finale of this, of this season, you will get why

509
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:57,350
we're just both enamored with this show. And for

510
00:29:57,350 --> 00:30:01,270
me, as y' all know, I'm a die hard shipper. And

511
00:30:01,510 --> 00:30:05,750
this season in particular, this is way I, I, I

512
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:10,170
think this season is so much better than the first

513
00:30:10,170 --> 00:30:15,050
season because the first season, it was such an

514
00:30:15,050 --> 00:30:20,330
introduction to this high concept show and premise

515
00:30:20,650 --> 00:30:24,250
that I felt like I was like, okay, cool, we're

516
00:30:24,250 --> 00:30:27,930
doing some weird shit here. But this season two,

517
00:30:28,810 --> 00:30:31,490
it drilled down into the characters and their

518
00:30:31,490 --> 00:30:36,570
relationships with each other and it brought in

519
00:30:37,290 --> 00:30:42,570
the most Pentagon of Pentagon love triangles ever.

520
00:30:42,570 --> 00:30:46,170
It totally played with your mind to where you're

521
00:30:46,170 --> 00:30:51,320
watching the season finale. And my heart, I, I'm

522
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,880
still team Gemma. Even though I, I do like the

523
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:01,770
chemistry between Helly Helly R and Mark S. I

524
00:31:01,770 --> 00:31:05,210
just, I, I just to, to have witness to understand

525
00:31:06,730 --> 00:31:11,450
Gemma's plight this season, that's what got me

526
00:31:11,450 --> 00:31:17,650
because I'm like, oh, oh, now I, I, I, I

527
00:31:17,650 --> 00:31:21,810
understand why Mark S Loves Heli. And now more

528
00:31:21,810 --> 00:31:25,260
importantly, I understand why Mark loves Gemma.

529
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:31,180
Like, it's just, it was so, it's so well done that

530
00:31:32,780 --> 00:31:35,430
I, I think about, I'll, I'll think about and

531
00:31:35,510 --> 00:31:40,350
praise season two way more than I have ever

532
00:31:40,350 --> 00:31:45,190
thought about season one. And, and that's, that's

533
00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:48,050
probably why I still put it at, my as my second

534
00:31:48,050 --> 00:31:54,600
choice this year. But I just, we said so much

535
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,600
while covering this season that if y' all really

536
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,440
want to understand, just go back and relive it

537
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,960
with us. Because I, I knew it would be good. But

538
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:10,000
I, as it went on, I was just, the more and more we

539
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,240
talked about, the more I was like, there's so much

540
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,930
more. And I will say if I, I will probably rewatch

541
00:32:17,930 --> 00:32:22,450
this season and when I do, I will gladly skip

542
00:32:22,450 --> 00:32:25,530
sweet vitriol. I don't care what Easter eggs. I

543
00:32:25,530 --> 00:32:28,130
ain't sitting through that again. I don't need to,

544
00:32:28,130 --> 00:32:32,090
I ain't going to because I think that episode

545
00:32:32,090 --> 00:32:35,770
alone is it why it's ranked number two. Okay. I

546
00:32:35,770 --> 00:32:38,410
don't care if it's a bad episode. I watch you one

547
00:32:38,410 --> 00:32:41,690
time and then I, I skip you. It's just like when

548
00:32:41,690 --> 00:32:43,910
I'm watching a TV show I like and I skip stuff,

549
00:32:44,060 --> 00:32:46,460
storylines that I could throw up. It's like, no,

550
00:32:46,460 --> 00:32:51,820
no, no, no. So, yeah, number two is severance

551
00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:53,460
season two for me.

552
00:32:53,460 --> 00:32:55,500
Will: Yeah. Can't argue with that. I can't argue with

553
00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:58,590
that. yeah, like I said, it was two and three were

554
00:32:58,590 --> 00:33:01,150
very hard for Me, because I love. I loved

555
00:33:01,470 --> 00:33:06,190
Severance so much and, and I really, really loved

556
00:33:06,670 --> 00:33:09,810
my. My second choice, which is what you figured to

557
00:33:09,810 --> 00:33:15,370
Sandor. And this is it. It treated the Star wars

558
00:33:15,370 --> 00:33:19,170
universe with political intelligence for me and,

559
00:33:19,170 --> 00:33:23,730
and maturity. That, I mean the thing that. For

560
00:33:23,730 --> 00:33:27,300
Andor, that was, you know, it really grounded

561
00:33:27,860 --> 00:33:30,820
everything as far as what the Rebellion really was

562
00:33:30,820 --> 00:33:34,220
about as far as sacrifice, you know, the fear, the

563
00:33:34,220 --> 00:33:37,700
moral compromise. Because And I. We always had, we

564
00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:41,020
had this romanticized notion of Star wars and a

565
00:33:41,020 --> 00:33:44,380
new hope and we see all the, you know, the glory

566
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:49,380
of the Rebellion. And yes, there were some darker

567
00:33:49,380 --> 00:33:54,900
moments in the original trilogy. But you know, I

568
00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:58,780
think what was. I mean the thing about Andor. And

569
00:33:58,780 --> 00:34:04,070
maybe and maybe it is too just my just. It tells a

570
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:07,990
Toma story as far as how systems of oppression

571
00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:11,150
function and not just how they're defeated. And it

572
00:34:11,150 --> 00:34:14,030
really. And I think, you know, it speaks to the

573
00:34:14,030 --> 00:34:17,430
times that we've seen in recent history. It speaks

574
00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:20,000
to things we've seen and you know, Nazi, Germany

575
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,960
and really understands, you know, that the empire

576
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,609
really was a fascist state. And you know, and it

577
00:34:27,609 --> 00:34:33,729
doesn't gloss over that. And so really. And

578
00:34:33,729 --> 00:34:37,769
another thing too, it really elevates how ordinary

579
00:34:37,769 --> 00:34:40,689
people instead of these mythic heroes that we,

580
00:34:40,689 --> 00:34:43,729
that we got in the original trilogy with Lukan,

581
00:34:43,729 --> 00:34:46,229
Alaya, and Chewie and everyone, you know, we

582
00:34:46,229 --> 00:34:48,229
really, you know, it was truly like ordinary

583
00:34:48,229 --> 00:34:50,789
people making ordinary, you know, making

584
00:34:50,789 --> 00:34:55,520
sacrifices and building and really laying the

585
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,360
groundwork so that when we do get to a new hope,

586
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:03,440
it definitely feels more of an earned moment. So

587
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,000
you know, if you're going to do a prequel series,

588
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,320
you don't want to just lean in on nostalgia for

589
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,840
nostalgia sake. And I think Endor, yeah, it had,

590
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,800
when it did have moments of nostalgia, it used it

591
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,270
to, to, to, to. To for storytelling purposes, not

592
00:35:22,270 --> 00:35:24,590
just because. Oh, that's a cool Easter egg right

593
00:35:24,590 --> 00:35:28,550
there. So you know, so for me, you know, and, and

594
00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:30,910
in particular the, the two. The back to back

595
00:35:30,910 --> 00:35:35,230
episodes where we do have the Gorman massacre and

596
00:35:35,230 --> 00:35:38,470
then also welcome to the Rebellion. Just. Just two

597
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:43,710
powerful hours of, of television at that still. I

598
00:35:43,710 --> 00:35:46,680
mean just hearing the. Not hear. Hearing the, the

599
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,920
moments that the people of Gorman, you know,

600
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,840
singing in the. In the square their national

601
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,160
anthem and of course the massacre that happens

602
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,160
there and then, you know, and then Mon Moth, the

603
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,800
speech on. In. In the Senate whenever she, you

604
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,120
know, tells the whole galaxy what. What's going,

605
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,960
you know, what's really happening here and all the

606
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,480
political intrigue and all that kind of stuff

607
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:11,760
just.

608
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:12,790
Sarah : And.

609
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:15,030
Will: Or just really just, you know, really just

610
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:18,350
resonates with. With me to this day. And it's, you

611
00:36:18,350 --> 00:36:21,750
know, definitely, definitely my favorite Star wars

612
00:36:21,830 --> 00:36:26,670
series of. As far as what we've seen, you know, in

613
00:36:26,670 --> 00:36:28,590
the Disney plus era, even more so than

614
00:36:28,590 --> 00:36:32,910
Mandalorian. But yeah, that's. That is why it was

615
00:36:32,910 --> 00:36:35,510
a hard call. But Andor was my. My second choice

616
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:37,510
for. For 2025.

617
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:39,510
Sarah : All right, I'm not going to do the guessing game,

618
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:43,060
but I am proud of you. More on that later. So. So

619
00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:47,100
this honestly should, again, not be surprised to

620
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:49,860
anybody what my number one show of this year is.

621
00:36:50,180 --> 00:36:53,260
It's. I've only talked about it ever since it came

622
00:36:53,260 --> 00:36:58,580
out, multiple times. Adolescence. It's a limited

623
00:36:58,580 --> 00:37:01,940
series, but I don't care. It counts as a TV show.

624
00:37:02,580 --> 00:37:09,430
And that is my number one pick. And I just. This

625
00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:14,390
show. And this is where I'm going to say, if you

626
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:18,310
have not watched it, stop. Go watch it. Come back.

627
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:21,310
You don't want to know anything about it. You

628
00:37:21,310 --> 00:37:25,110
really don't. You just want to know the premise,

629
00:37:25,110 --> 00:37:30,470
which very much what it was sold on is a. A child

630
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:35,120
gets accused of murder. That's it. And you're

631
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,600
like, oh, that's a basic TV show. So why is

632
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,280
everybody talking about it? Well, we're talking

633
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,160
about it because you're talking about four

634
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:50,560
episodes, hour plus each, I think. Or if not just

635
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:56,640
an hour each, and all done in one shot, every

636
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,520
single episode. And. And then as you're watching

637
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:06,050
the chapters unfold, it becomes more interesting

638
00:38:06,290 --> 00:38:11,090
because suddenly the second episode, it's like two

639
00:38:11,090 --> 00:38:13,850
weeks later. And then you jump more further in

640
00:38:13,850 --> 00:38:17,970
time and more. I didn't know that much. I had. I

641
00:38:17,970 --> 00:38:22,490
saw one scene, a clip of one scene from my

642
00:38:22,490 --> 00:38:25,050
favorite episode, episode three, the episode I've

643
00:38:25,050 --> 00:38:29,810
seen the most times. And I was just enamored with

644
00:38:29,810 --> 00:38:34,570
the performances. And I am so glad I did not know

645
00:38:34,570 --> 00:38:37,090
anything else. And I'm so glad nobody ruined the

646
00:38:37,090 --> 00:38:39,330
fact that they were all done in one shots, one

647
00:38:39,330 --> 00:38:42,930
take. Because then when I started it, the first, I

648
00:38:42,930 --> 00:38:46,650
still remember first watching the episode and it

649
00:38:46,650 --> 00:38:51,040
going. And then at some point, like when they make

650
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,440
it to the police station, I think to myself, I'm

651
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,880
like, we. We have not cut what. What. What is

652
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,200
happening? And then. So to then fast forward to

653
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,800
the second episode, I'm like, oh, we're. We're

654
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:09,360
still doing this. Got it. Okay. It's so the. And

655
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:13,640
then the performances. I. I mean, I can't. You

656
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:19,160
really can't say enough about between Stephen

657
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,600
Stephen Graham and, and then the child actor and

658
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,170
this is his first real acting job he's ever done.

659
00:39:26,730 --> 00:39:30,650
And, and they shot episode three first. Episode

660
00:39:30,650 --> 00:39:36,250
three I have again seen the most times. This is a

661
00:39:36,250 --> 00:39:40,090
hard show to watch. So after watching this on my

662
00:39:40,090 --> 00:39:44,330
own rewatching and then watching it with my

663
00:39:44,330 --> 00:39:48,290
parents and then I think maybe rewatching one or

664
00:39:48,290 --> 00:39:52,720
two episodes again, like I was like nope, I can't

665
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:57,680
do anymore and I don't need to. It is also, I do

666
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:02,920
think it's rewatchable to an extent where I

667
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,160
learned I realized so much more about the, how

668
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,160
deep the writing was upon specifically the second

669
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,200
and third viewing than I did about on the first.

670
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,600
Because that's what happens when you're so

671
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,080
hypnotized by the amazing camera work and

672
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,350
direction that you're just like, you're not

673
00:40:23,350 --> 00:40:27,430
comprehending the full extent of the dialogue

674
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:31,710
that's being. That has all of these little details

675
00:40:31,710 --> 00:40:34,830
that get connected in later scenes if you really

676
00:40:34,830 --> 00:40:37,840
think about it. And the connections between

677
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,120
fathers and sons and also mothers and sons and,

678
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:47,120
and then daughters too. And just how quickly

679
00:40:48,510 --> 00:40:52,350
adolescence can be taken away. Like how quickly

680
00:40:52,510 --> 00:40:57,230
one decision is the definitive moment where

681
00:40:57,230 --> 00:40:59,670
suddenly you are no longer a child, you are an

682
00:40:59,670 --> 00:41:03,910
adult. And, and also. And then the question is

683
00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:08,870
why? And I, I know that it for by at this point in

684
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:12,150
the year with this show and everyone's discussion

685
00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:15,350
about it. I mean the show runners themselves have

686
00:41:15,350 --> 00:41:17,540
even said this isn't a whodunit. And that's

687
00:41:17,540 --> 00:41:20,920
another thing that takes in the first episode. It

688
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,810
becomes very clear in that episode, oh, this isn't

689
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,330
we, we know what happened. But then the question

690
00:41:28,330 --> 00:41:33,370
is why? And then even also how, like how could a

691
00:41:33,370 --> 00:41:36,930
13 year old kill someone else? Another 13 year

692
00:41:36,930 --> 00:41:40,570
old, like what I know we talked about the fact

693
00:41:40,570 --> 00:41:43,370
that they're, they're working on, they're pushing

694
00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:46,530
for a season two. Even if a season two comes out,

695
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:53,210
I, I will stand by the show and I, I think

696
00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:57,210
everyone should watch it. And yeah, I think this

697
00:41:57,210 --> 00:42:03,130
is just the very unexpected thing. And typically

698
00:42:03,130 --> 00:42:06,570
every year there's a show that's unexpectedly

699
00:42:06,570 --> 00:42:10,290
comes out that just blows me away. And, and

700
00:42:10,290 --> 00:42:13,450
that's, that's why a lot of my favorites are lower

701
00:42:13,450 --> 00:42:20,030
on the list because I'm like, well I'm sorry but

702
00:42:20,030 --> 00:42:24,670
if I think about a show that have. I've lived with

703
00:42:24,670 --> 00:42:28,070
the most in terms of just thinking about

704
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:33,750
recommending to people gushing over and re

705
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:37,270
watching it is adolescence out of all of them. So

706
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:42,160
that is my number one choice and Will, I am going

707
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:46,400
to say this, that there is a chance you may slight

708
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,080
me. But sir, if you do not have adolescents on

709
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,400
your list, I don't know if we can continue the

710
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:52,000
podcast.

711
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,880
Will: Well, the podcast will continue because

712
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,360
adolescence is definitely without a doubt my

713
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,880
number one show this year. I mean it for all the

714
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,320
reasons that you, that you shared and I mean I

715
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,680
don't have much more than I could really add to

716
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,720
that. I mean it really is just one, like you said,

717
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:14,380
one of those shows that, that this, this stays

718
00:43:14,380 --> 00:43:18,740
with you and, and, and, and being a parent, I have

719
00:43:18,740 --> 00:43:22,100
a young, young adult college, have a kid at high

720
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:26,260
school right now. And just it. And the thing, you

721
00:43:26,260 --> 00:43:29,420
know, the things that you have to deal with as a,

722
00:43:29,420 --> 00:43:33,020
as a modern parent and, and the toxic masculinity

723
00:43:33,020 --> 00:43:36,390
that was addressed and, and the the you know, the

724
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:39,110
online radicalization of things. I mean it was

725
00:43:39,110 --> 00:43:42,070
just so, you know, it's just so what again, to my

726
00:43:42,070 --> 00:43:44,270
points about what I said about andor is also true

727
00:43:44,270 --> 00:43:48,310
about adolescence. Very, very topical show that I

728
00:43:48,310 --> 00:43:51,270
think also is one of the reasons why you know, it

729
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:54,190
resonates for so many people. I mean it's just raw

730
00:43:54,190 --> 00:43:57,190
storytelling like you said. I mean the, the third

731
00:43:57,190 --> 00:44:01,390
episode, whenever the, the y child kid accused of

732
00:44:01,390 --> 00:44:04,750
murder is having a session there with a, with the

733
00:44:04,750 --> 00:44:07,650
social worker counselor advocate, she, you know,

734
00:44:07,650 --> 00:44:09,970
she, you know it was just chilling. I mean just

735
00:44:10,370 --> 00:44:13,250
the, the, the back and forth and that steady, you

736
00:44:13,250 --> 00:44:16,490
know, just that, that single shot camera work and,

737
00:44:16,490 --> 00:44:19,650
and just ratcheting up the tension as the, you

738
00:44:19,650 --> 00:44:22,970
know, I was fearing for her whenever she was in

739
00:44:22,970 --> 00:44:25,330
the room with that, with, with, with that kid.

740
00:44:25,970 --> 00:44:29,730
And, and just because of. We like you said, it

741
00:44:29,730 --> 00:44:31,930
wasn't who done it. It was very clear about what

742
00:44:31,930 --> 00:44:34,590
had happened. Also the anguish of the father of

743
00:44:34,590 --> 00:44:39,110
when, whenever his son's being interrogated and,

744
00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:41,310
and just you know, having to, you know, you know,

745
00:44:41,310 --> 00:44:43,910
whenever the kids being strip searched and, and

746
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:44,870
and just that.

747
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:48,590
Sarah : Scene, yeah, that scene. I remember. Sorry to cut

748
00:44:48,590 --> 00:44:50,670
you off, but I will have to say because you

749
00:44:50,670 --> 00:44:53,950
brought it up. That scene. I remember when I first

750
00:44:53,950 --> 00:44:56,990
watched it and I talked about it on the show and

751
00:44:56,990 --> 00:44:59,430
you were about to head out on a trip and you said

752
00:44:59,430 --> 00:45:02,190
to, you asked me, you're like so should I just

753
00:45:02,190 --> 00:45:04,750
watch it like while I'm traveling? And I said no.

754
00:45:04,750 --> 00:45:08,230
And it was because of that scene because you don't

755
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:13,910
see anything but the unsettled. It becomes so

756
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:17,670
unsettling and you, and it's so awkward because

757
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:21,270
you're watching a father react to his Son being

758
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:25,070
stripped, church, like, it's all on his face. And

759
00:45:25,230 --> 00:45:31,160
so his performance in that moment, like, suddenly

760
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,680
as a viewer, you're just like, oh, I don't. I

761
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,480
don't even feel comfortable watching him watch

762
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,840
this. I. I don't. I want out of this room right

763
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,920
now. Yeah, I don't like this.

764
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,200
Will: Yeah, exactly. And, and that's the thing about

765
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,400
this show. I mean, there's so many. It sparked a

766
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,320
lot of conversation. I mean, this is definitely

767
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,680
one of the most talked about, if not the most

768
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,490
talked about show of the year. And, and, and, but

769
00:45:56,490 --> 00:45:59,250
also, what was so powerful about it is, you know,

770
00:45:59,250 --> 00:46:02,170
it didn't offer easy answers. I mean, because, you

771
00:46:02,170 --> 00:46:03,450
know, when I'm sitting there watching it, I'm

772
00:46:03,450 --> 00:46:05,730
like, what. What would I have done in that

773
00:46:05,730 --> 00:46:09,450
situation if I was that thought? Or, and, or what

774
00:46:09,450 --> 00:46:11,530
could you do? You know, and, you know, and even

775
00:46:11,530 --> 00:46:14,580
like, the investigator, the, police, you know, he,

776
00:46:14,580 --> 00:46:18,660
he had a son in the school and, and, and tried to,

777
00:46:18,660 --> 00:46:22,020
like, learn more about the culture that's going on

778
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:27,420
there. And, and, and the dynamics of, of young,

779
00:46:27,420 --> 00:46:29,580
masculine, you know, that toxic masculinity that

780
00:46:29,580 --> 00:46:34,420
is out there. And, and, and it just, again, this

781
00:46:34,420 --> 00:46:38,540
was a show that, when we look back on 2025, yes,

782
00:46:38,540 --> 00:46:40,380
it'll definitely be like, number one on many

783
00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:43,820
people's list, but it, it deservedly so, because,

784
00:46:43,820 --> 00:46:46,870
like I said, it just. It's just this unflinching,

785
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:49,790
emotionally raw storytelling that never as. As an

786
00:46:49,790 --> 00:46:51,530
audience member, never talked down to us either. I

787
00:46:51,530 --> 00:46:54,970
mean, it, it accepted us as we are and didn't

788
00:46:54,970 --> 00:46:57,530
insult our intelligence or anything, but just put

789
00:46:57,530 --> 00:47:00,610
it out there and then just let you know. And, and,

790
00:47:00,610 --> 00:47:03,290
and as we're talking about it tonight, I'm just

791
00:47:03,290 --> 00:47:07,810
like, yeah, I mean, it's just. It definitely. It

792
00:47:07,810 --> 00:47:11,190
definitely was one of those groundbreaking moments

793
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:15,580
that of four hours or so of television that, you

794
00:47:15,580 --> 00:47:17,940
just, you know, whenever, Whenever you, whenever

795
00:47:17,940 --> 00:47:20,700
you get it, you realize, like, oh, yeah, this is

796
00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:22,780
something special. And this was definitely one of

797
00:47:22,780 --> 00:47:26,820
those special, special shows that only comes

798
00:47:26,820 --> 00:47:29,550
around so often. But, but like you said, you know,

799
00:47:29,550 --> 00:47:31,150
it's one of those ones that you just can't

800
00:47:31,150 --> 00:47:32,590
recommend enough to people when they're like,

801
00:47:32,590 --> 00:47:35,190
well, what should I check out? Like, oh, you know,

802
00:47:35,350 --> 00:47:38,510
adolescents. Be prepared. You know, don't. Don't

803
00:47:38,510 --> 00:47:40,750
watch it. You know, it's one of those shows that,

804
00:47:40,750 --> 00:47:43,230
you know, you're gonna, you're gonna, it's gonna

805
00:47:43,230 --> 00:47:45,180
sit with you for a while. But, it's definitely,

806
00:47:45,180 --> 00:47:48,370
definitely no brainer for, for me as soon As I,

807
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,000
basically, like, whenever I was putting together

808
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,520
my list, I was like, okay, we'll both have

809
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,280
Adolescence as number one. It'll be interesting to

810
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,560
see two through five where we differ.

811
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,800
Sarah : I was so worried for a moment there that you're

812
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,270
gonna put Andorra as number one just so you could

813
00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:04,870
talk about adolescence first.

814
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:06,150
Will: No, no, no.

815
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:09,590
Sarah : I was like, no way in hell.

816
00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:12,510
Will: No. No way in hell. No way in hell. I mean, yeah,

817
00:48:12,510 --> 00:48:14,110
we would. We would have to end the podcast.

818
00:48:14,110 --> 00:48:14,470
Sarah : Yeah.

819
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:16,870
Will: For me, being. Being dishonest like that. I would

820
00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:19,870
never be dishonest that way about. About. About

821
00:48:19,870 --> 00:48:22,870
the show. Because it's like, as we both said, it's

822
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:25,190
just. It's just. It's an amazing show.

823
00:48:25,350 --> 00:48:30,120
Sarah : Yeah. Okay, well, I guess you wanted to do

824
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,760
honorable mentions. I have two other lists, but

825
00:48:34,240 --> 00:48:34,560
yeah.

826
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,840
Will: I mean, I have a couple. I have movies. I mean, as

827
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,230
far as honorable mentions, I mean, you know, the

828
00:48:39,230 --> 00:48:43,270
Bear almost knocked out that the studio. It was

829
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:46,070
very. That was really where I was, like, going

830
00:48:46,070 --> 00:48:50,110
back and forth on the. On my list. But I think the

831
00:48:50,110 --> 00:48:53,750
studio. It was one of those ones where I think the

832
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:56,110
studio just sort of stuck with me more than the

833
00:48:56,110 --> 00:48:58,510
Bear season four did this year. I mean, not that

834
00:48:58,510 --> 00:49:00,390
it was a bad, bad season. I mean, I think it

835
00:49:00,390 --> 00:49:02,390
definitely recovered from season three, like you

836
00:49:02,390 --> 00:49:07,060
said, but, maybe I'm still feeling burned. And

837
00:49:07,060 --> 00:49:08,620
also, I think there's something. I think the

838
00:49:08,620 --> 00:49:10,260
studio was just. It was just a newness and

839
00:49:10,260 --> 00:49:11,100
freshness about it.

840
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:14,020
Sarah : Yeah, I was gonna say, I think you gravitate more

841
00:49:14,020 --> 00:49:17,660
to newness and freshness, and I don't think. I

842
00:49:17,660 --> 00:49:20,820
don't think a lot of the episodes hit you as. As

843
00:49:20,820 --> 00:49:26,040
much as they hit me. So. But. So. So that didn't

844
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,960
surprise me. That didn't surprise me that you

845
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,280
didn't have it on your list.

846
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:30,280
Will: Were.

847
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,280
Sarah : Were there any surprises on my list or what I did

848
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,320
not put on my list?

849
00:49:34,890 --> 00:49:35,290
Will: no.

850
00:49:35,450 --> 00:49:39,610
Sarah : No, because. Because I. I was just. I was curious

851
00:49:39,930 --> 00:49:42,450
and I did hint, hint at this. So now I have to

852
00:49:42,450 --> 00:49:47,380
follow through with it. Paradise was close, and so

853
00:49:47,540 --> 00:49:52,060
my. My number six and number five. But Paradise, I

854
00:49:52,060 --> 00:49:55,260
ain't putting it on my list without the Last of

855
00:49:55,260 --> 00:49:58,740
Us, season two. And here's why. Because I find I

856
00:49:58,740 --> 00:50:02,820
have the same frustrations with both of those

857
00:50:02,820 --> 00:50:08,260
shows. For me, both of those shows arguably have.

858
00:50:08,580 --> 00:50:13,190
Have two or more episodes, I think two, though,

859
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:16,910
for me, that are just exceptional television of

860
00:50:16,910 --> 00:50:20,630
this year. Paradise, it's the pilot and it's the

861
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:24,150
episode that you've already discussed the day and

862
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:29,070
then Last of US Season 2, it is the full flashback

863
00:50:29,230 --> 00:50:32,550
episode of the in between years with Ellie and

864
00:50:32,550 --> 00:50:36,590
Jill. And then it's also the episode where, where

865
00:50:36,670 --> 00:50:40,750
Joel dies because. And I remember those, and I do

866
00:50:40,750 --> 00:50:43,950
know everyone's reaction to that second episode,

867
00:50:43,950 --> 00:50:47,110
and you cannot tell me that that wasn't like, such

868
00:50:47,110 --> 00:50:51,030
a big moment. However, I also fully understand why

869
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:53,110
the Last of Us is not going to be on a lot of

870
00:50:53,110 --> 00:50:56,470
people's top five, top five, top ten list because

871
00:50:56,550 --> 00:51:03,470
it is a very un, it's not consistent and it's a

872
00:51:03,470 --> 00:51:07,200
choppy season and it's a frustrating season. I

873
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,280
also found Found paradise to get a bit frustrating

874
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:17,200
and, and the finale, Will's passion for about his

875
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,120
annoying annoyance with the finale of the Last of

876
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,800
Us Season two is matched by my frustration and

877
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,080
annoyance by paradise this season finale. And it's

878
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,590
not because, you could not see it coming. I don't

879
00:51:29,590 --> 00:51:32,870
care about that shit. It is just the execution

880
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:37,350
was, in my opinion, abysmal and it just did not

881
00:51:37,350 --> 00:51:40,710
work for me. I'm still upset about it because I

882
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:43,030
love that pilot episode so much.

883
00:51:43,350 --> 00:51:44,790
Will: Yeah, fair enough.

884
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:47,870
Sarah : And I am looking forward to season two. So I, I

885
00:51:47,870 --> 00:51:52,230
will also say Gen V just because of the one

886
00:51:52,230 --> 00:51:55,590
episode. The kids are not all right. Season two,

887
00:51:55,590 --> 00:51:59,860
it could have been, but it's not. So I have, I

888
00:51:59,860 --> 00:52:02,860
have a fun list that I want to get into.

889
00:52:03,260 --> 00:52:03,740
Will: All right?

890
00:52:03,740 --> 00:52:07,660
Sarah : And my fun list, my first of two fun lists, is

891
00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:13,260
called Disappointments. Now you would think, well,

892
00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:14,979
Sarah, you already talked about some of your

893
00:52:14,979 --> 00:52:17,780
disappointing TV shows with Last of Us, Season 2

894
00:52:17,780 --> 00:52:21,110
in Paradise. No, no, no, no. this is nicknamed

895
00:52:21,110 --> 00:52:25,110
Disappointments because I blame those people who

896
00:52:25,110 --> 00:52:30,260
are like, oh, my God, this show was so shocking.

897
00:52:30,340 --> 00:52:33,380
And this moment and the influencers, the

898
00:52:33,380 --> 00:52:36,900
tiktokers. I blame you all for this shit because

899
00:52:37,460 --> 00:52:41,500
you told me to watch this and you told me what I

900
00:52:41,500 --> 00:52:45,100
should expect and I watched it and I don't know

901
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:47,940
what the fuck you were talking about. I am pissed.

902
00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:52,640
So at number three, we have all her fault. Okay,

903
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,520
now part of me did watch this also because Sarah

904
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:01,240
Snook. Okay, Succession, come on, now I have to

905
00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:05,920
watch it. But yeah, there was, I watched, I heard

906
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,350
so many little things, upon watching this about

907
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:13,430
how like, oh, my God, that ending, what a twist.

908
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:16,790
And all this stuff. Now did I predict the ending?

909
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:21,980
No, but I got very bored in this season. I

910
00:53:21,980 --> 00:53:25,700
completely skipped the penultimate episode. I

911
00:53:25,700 --> 00:53:29,660
didn't care to learn about Carrie's backstory. I,

912
00:53:29,660 --> 00:53:32,940
I, I glanced over a few scenes and I was like,

913
00:53:32,940 --> 00:53:36,700
okay, so they get In a car accident. Okay. And

914
00:53:36,700 --> 00:53:39,860
then. And then I jump straight to the finale and

915
00:53:39,860 --> 00:53:44,220
they explain everything. And. Yeah, I just. First

916
00:53:44,220 --> 00:53:47,140
of all, the typecasting, if you really think about

917
00:53:47,140 --> 00:53:51,340
the actor who plays the husband. Yeah, we all

918
00:53:51,340 --> 00:53:54,260
could have seen this coming. Also, it was bad

919
00:53:54,260 --> 00:53:57,700
melodrama. But we're going to jump on to number

920
00:53:57,700 --> 00:54:01,540
two that Will should not be surprised about

921
00:54:01,540 --> 00:54:04,860
because he knows my anger about this show because

922
00:54:04,860 --> 00:54:07,460
I've been in depth. I went in depth with you about

923
00:54:07,460 --> 00:54:10,540
this. The show is called We Were Liars, Season

924
00:54:10,620 --> 00:54:14,340
one. Y' all lied to me, and I'm. The fact that y'

925
00:54:14,340 --> 00:54:19,890
all cried upon watching what happened the summer

926
00:54:19,890 --> 00:54:24,410
before in this ep. Ah, this show. No, no, no.

927
00:54:24,410 --> 00:54:27,050
Those kids had it coming. I'm sorry. There was a

928
00:54:27,050 --> 00:54:30,929
stupid plan. It made no sense. And I have no

929
00:54:30,929 --> 00:54:33,640
sympathy. I, have no sympathy. And I also don't

930
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,880
have sympathy because of how they ended the entire

931
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,080
season, which is basically, we want to make even

932
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,240
more money on y'. All. So we're gonna kind of have

933
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:47,330
a season. and. No, no, no, no, no. This doesn't

934
00:54:47,330 --> 00:54:49,730
need a second season. Will I watch a second

935
00:54:49,730 --> 00:54:53,610
season? I really will. Just because I'm curious

936
00:54:53,610 --> 00:54:57,370
about the. The stupidity that could occur and

937
00:54:57,370 --> 00:55:00,770
continue. Like, why. Why does the boy cousin have

938
00:55:00,770 --> 00:55:04,570
to still be haunting his mother? Why? Let the dead

939
00:55:04,570 --> 00:55:08,490
rest, okay? Burn themselves alive in a stupid

940
00:55:08,490 --> 00:55:12,930
plan. Spoiler alert. Whatever. Okay, now this last

941
00:55:12,930 --> 00:55:18,810
one, if I think about it, my. My whole betrayal of

942
00:55:18,970 --> 00:55:21,850
accusing the influencers of talking me in his

943
00:55:21,850 --> 00:55:24,330
shows, it kind of stops with this last one because

944
00:55:24,970 --> 00:55:30,450
I've. I. I did this to myself a long time ago when

945
00:55:30,450 --> 00:55:32,850
I started a little show called the Summer I Turned

946
00:55:32,850 --> 00:55:36,490
Pretty. The Summer I Turn Pretty. Season three is

947
00:55:37,250 --> 00:55:41,970
so frustrating and boring that I have to talk

948
00:55:41,970 --> 00:55:44,530
about it. I don't want to because I don't want to

949
00:55:44,530 --> 00:55:48,210
give this show any more attention. But I do think

950
00:55:48,530 --> 00:55:52,850
that this show is the perfect example of what I

951
00:55:52,850 --> 00:55:59,290
call how you destroy a love triangle concept. And

952
00:55:59,290 --> 00:56:03,020
it's called character assassination. The character

953
00:56:03,020 --> 00:56:06,220
assassination of Jeremiah. Now, was I ever on Team

954
00:56:06,220 --> 00:56:11,540
Jeremiah? No, no, no, no. But how is it that by

955
00:56:11,540 --> 00:56:14,300
the end of season three, I'm like, I don't even

956
00:56:14,300 --> 00:56:19,650
want Belly to be with Conrad. I don't. I honestly,

957
00:56:19,810 --> 00:56:23,010
I thought all of her decision making. So selfish,

958
00:56:23,410 --> 00:56:27,810
so stupid. She doesn't deserve Conrad. Okay, so

959
00:56:28,220 --> 00:56:30,420
it's a complete character assassination of not

960
00:56:30,420 --> 00:56:35,380
only Jeremiah, but also of Belly, who. And then

961
00:56:35,380 --> 00:56:39,380
poor Conrad is supposedly so in love with her that

962
00:56:39,380 --> 00:56:43,380
he can't see that she just. She she's so stupid.

963
00:56:43,380 --> 00:56:47,060
And also, I'm sorry, I know that in the books they

964
00:56:47,060 --> 00:56:49,540
say she doesn't sleep with both brothers, but

965
00:56:49,540 --> 00:56:52,060
clearly in the TV show she did. And I don't know

966
00:56:52,060 --> 00:56:54,870
how either one of them can get over that. I just,

967
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:58,190
I don't see that in real, real life ever occurring

968
00:56:58,190 --> 00:57:03,710
and being that way. So, so yeah, I skipped through

969
00:57:04,270 --> 00:57:07,950
so much of the last two episodes. It's hilarious.

970
00:57:08,670 --> 00:57:13,350
But I just, yeah, I, that, that was the worst of

971
00:57:13,350 --> 00:57:17,710
the worst for me on my disappointing list. So

972
00:57:17,950 --> 00:57:18,830
there you have it.

973
00:57:19,470 --> 00:57:22,160
Will: So cool. Well, I, you know, I did not do a

974
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,520
disappointing list. I, I stuck to. As far as my

975
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,880
wild card, it wasn't so much a wild card. It was,

976
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,400
you know, going back to best of movies and tv. I

977
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,719
just, you know, I decided to because I, I mean if

978
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:39,040
I did have to put a disappointing show for, for

979
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,000
the year, I, you know, I, I think it's safe to say

980
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,240
it was other, other than the two episodes that

981
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,280
you, that you noted. As far as the Last of Us, I

982
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,000
would have to say the Last of us season 2 was my

983
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,570
disappointment 20 show for the year. But, but

984
00:57:50,570 --> 00:57:53,210
other than that, you know, overall there was

985
00:57:53,210 --> 00:57:55,890
nothing that really like, offended me as far as,

986
00:57:55,890 --> 00:57:59,330
like, or, or basically I, I guess I, you know,

987
00:57:59,330 --> 00:58:01,770
nothing would have, like, I wouldn't have stuck

988
00:58:01,770 --> 00:58:03,890
with something if it, if I just didn't, didn't

989
00:58:03,890 --> 00:58:04,330
feel it.

990
00:58:04,970 --> 00:58:05,370
Sarah : Oh.

991
00:58:05,370 --> 00:58:07,480
Will: I guess, I guess the other, I guess I will say I

992
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,520
guess the other maybe another thing that was

993
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,680
maybe, maybe a little disappointed was Star Trek

994
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,430
Strange new Worlds Season 3. A lot of potential,

995
00:58:16,910 --> 00:58:19,270
but so I guess I do have some disappointments in

996
00:58:19,270 --> 00:58:22,950
2025. So. Yeah, so the Last of Us season two and

997
00:58:22,950 --> 00:58:25,230
Star Trek Strange New World season three, they had

998
00:58:25,230 --> 00:58:28,430
some good moments, but overall, I don't know if it

999
00:58:28,430 --> 00:58:32,590
was the writer's strike or, or are they just

1000
00:58:33,070 --> 00:58:35,910
written by AI or. No, no, I won't besmirch them

1001
00:58:35,910 --> 00:58:39,710
like that, but it was more, it was just very, very

1002
00:58:39,710 --> 00:58:44,000
uninspired. They had some good concepts, but, but

1003
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,800
it, it, it, I, I, I, I found myself more

1004
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,040
frustrated throughout the season. There, you know,

1005
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,120
there were some, there were some high points, but

1006
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,720
they were there, there were more like, all right,

1007
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,240
y'. All, you know, there were, there were some

1008
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:58,870
that was just kind of like, this is just not

1009
00:58:58,870 --> 00:59:01,380
working for me. But Mother, Mother, like what

1010
00:59:01,460 --> 00:59:04,040
things I, I did have, as far as this, movies,

1011
00:59:06,170 --> 00:59:08,810
really. Of course. I think my, my third, you know,

1012
00:59:08,810 --> 00:59:12,730
as far as I ended up catching quite A few. And you

1013
00:59:12,730 --> 00:59:14,690
know, there was a couple pleasant surprises like

1014
00:59:14,690 --> 00:59:18,170
Novocaine that I really liked. But as far as

1015
00:59:18,170 --> 00:59:21,809
other. Other movies that I liked this year, I

1016
00:59:21,809 --> 00:59:25,570
guess, you know, my fifth favorite was as far as

1017
00:59:25,570 --> 00:59:28,890
in the genre space was it was really hard between

1018
00:59:29,850 --> 00:59:32,100
kind of a tie between Mission Impossible, eight

1019
00:59:33,070 --> 00:59:37,030
and, and. And Fantastic Four. To be completely

1020
00:59:37,030 --> 00:59:40,750
honest. They kind of both hit there. I know it's a

1021
00:59:40,750 --> 00:59:43,070
tie. I know it's easy Way out. But they were kind

1022
00:59:43,070 --> 00:59:46,910
of both equally like that for me. Next was

1023
00:59:46,990 --> 00:59:50,030
Pleasant Surprise. K Pop Theme matters. I, I

1024
00:59:50,030 --> 00:59:54,070
really, really liked that movie. Was very fun, you

1025
00:59:54,070 --> 00:59:55,670
know, just really just, you know, just

1026
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:58,590
unapologetically fun. It was just a. Fun. Just,

1027
00:59:58,780 --> 01:00:01,580
you know, just a good palate cleanser. Just a fun

1028
01:00:01,580 --> 01:00:04,020
movie just to watch the soundtrack. You know, I

1029
01:00:04,020 --> 01:00:06,500
still have it going on my. On M. My Spotify as far

1030
01:00:06,500 --> 01:00:09,860
as golden and. And so it's. Yeah, it, it is what

1031
01:00:09,860 --> 01:00:14,110
it is. Next up, one I didn't think that I was

1032
01:00:14,110 --> 01:00:17,350
going to like at all, but really pleasant,

1033
01:00:17,350 --> 01:00:20,670
pleasant surprise. Thunderbolts. You know how I

1034
01:00:20,670 --> 01:00:22,870
felt. Anybody who's listening to podcasts there,

1035
01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:24,670
you know, have our conversations about it. I was

1036
01:00:24,670 --> 01:00:27,030
really not feeling this movie, but came out of it

1037
01:00:27,610 --> 01:00:32,360
just really, really impressed. you know, just, you

1038
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,400
know, the characters, you know, you know, they

1039
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,160
focused on flawed. The flawed care, you know,

1040
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,560
characters of the mcu, but really just had great

1041
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,680
emotional stakes. Really, you know, had a good

1042
01:00:42,759 --> 01:00:46,370
discussion on, you know, mental illness and and,

1043
01:00:46,530 --> 01:00:49,450
you know, and just depression and those types of

1044
01:00:49,450 --> 01:00:52,010
things. And, and so I was really, really impressed

1045
01:00:52,010 --> 01:00:55,020
by Thunderbolts, especially given how Marvel has

1046
01:00:55,020 --> 01:00:57,140
really been hit or miss here lately. Especially

1047
01:00:57,220 --> 01:00:59,540
like earlier this year with Captain America 4.

1048
01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:02,550
Let's talk about disappointments. next up,

1049
01:01:02,550 --> 01:01:05,770
Sinners. Love Centers. it was my second favorite

1050
01:01:05,770 --> 01:01:09,690
film of the year. And, just, just, just really,

1051
01:01:09,690 --> 01:01:13,170
just, you know, folk really just mostly, you know,

1052
01:01:13,250 --> 01:01:17,580
original story, very, you know, this. The music,

1053
01:01:17,820 --> 01:01:21,620
the, the atmosphere, the film, the cinematography,

1054
01:01:21,620 --> 01:01:24,060
everything about it. The performances by Michael

1055
01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:26,740
B. Jordan and the rest of the cast. I mean, it

1056
01:01:26,740 --> 01:01:29,540
just was just an amazing, amazing film. And I'm

1057
01:01:29,540 --> 01:01:31,780
really hopeful that'll it'll get its appropriate

1058
01:01:31,780 --> 01:01:34,620
flowers in awards season. And then of course,

1059
01:01:34,620 --> 01:01:36,780
last, My favorite film of this year was Superman.

1060
01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:39,580
I mean, you know, it's the, the, you know,

1061
01:01:39,580 --> 01:01:42,940
Houseman 78 sort of just, you know, kicked off the

1062
01:01:42,940 --> 01:01:48,320
superhero genre film. I don't want to, I mean, I,

1063
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:49,960
I don't want to be too much president of the

1064
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,520
moment, but I. This, this, this, I will say that

1065
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:56,240
it definitely reclaimed Superman as a hero as far

1066
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,360
as simple hope and moral clarity, even with his

1067
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,760
flaws. I mean, when you think about how, you know,

1068
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,800
I know the Snyderverse folks will. Will probably,

1069
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,440
you know, torch me for this, but, I mean, and I

1070
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,120
did enjoy Henry Cavill's portrayal in the

1071
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:15,320
character, but overall darkness and the whole God

1072
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,840
complex, I mean, you know, that, that, you know,

1073
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,240
Superman, essentially God and, and, and, and, And

1074
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,840
Zack Snyder really dove into that with the whole,

1075
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,040
you know, with the very Christian religious

1076
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,080
industry and that kind of stuff, which I don't, I

1077
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,120
don't have a problem with that. But, you know, I

1078
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,560
think what I liked about James Gunn and David Gorn

1079
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,080
Sweat is it just made Superman relatable again,

1080
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,600
and it showed us about why this character still

1081
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,220
matters. So those are my sort of my. My five top

1082
01:02:42,220 --> 01:02:43,260
movies for this year.

1083
01:02:43,260 --> 01:02:46,900
Sarah : Okay, cool. I don't have a top five movies of this

1084
01:02:46,900 --> 01:02:50,220
year. You just mentioned a lot of the movies I've

1085
01:02:50,220 --> 01:02:52,860
seen this year, though. Yeah, I feel like when you

1086
01:02:52,860 --> 01:02:55,820
watch maybe five movies a year, like your top

1087
01:02:55,820 --> 01:02:58,300
five. Really, your top five.

1088
01:02:58,460 --> 01:03:02,300
Will: I know I watched about 10 or 15. I had about,

1089
01:03:02,500 --> 01:03:07,170
Sarah : Oh, I know you have more than I did. Yeah. So. So

1090
01:03:07,170 --> 01:03:11,730
instead, on a more positive note, I have a list of

1091
01:03:12,050 --> 01:03:15,890
my favorite. Now I'm gonna. I'm gonna preface this

1092
01:03:16,210 --> 01:03:19,970
high school TV shows. And I. And I call high

1093
01:03:19,970 --> 01:03:24,050
school because the criteria I used was at least a

1094
01:03:24,050 --> 01:03:27,250
character has to be going to high school. Okay.

1095
01:03:27,250 --> 01:03:30,690
There. There should be scenes within a school of

1096
01:03:30,690 --> 01:03:34,790
some sort. Now I will also say, and in future

1097
01:03:34,790 --> 01:03:37,430
years, if I were to redo this list, it would also

1098
01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:41,910
include the college setting. Okay. Now, and, and

1099
01:03:41,910 --> 01:03:45,430
so it is in a particular order. But number five is

1100
01:03:45,510 --> 01:03:49,390
Kitty Xo Season two on Netflix. Okay. This show is

1101
01:03:49,390 --> 01:03:53,190
just a delightful little show. It's a spin off of

1102
01:03:53,190 --> 01:03:58,240
to all the Boys I loved movie series previously a

1103
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,680
book series, and they're just nailing it. Season

1104
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,480
two is far better than season one, and that is

1105
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,640
because Kitty and Minnow, their chemistry. Great.

1106
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,800
Their. The direction we're going great. Am I

1107
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,280
scared for season three? Yes, I am very scared.

1108
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,960
Because when things go well, that is when

1109
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,200
inevitably the writers are like, oh, we're gonna

1110
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,160
make up some lame constructs so people can't be

1111
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,210
together who, like, it's like, no, no, no, no. You

1112
01:04:26,210 --> 01:04:28,370
had it right. But then again, I understand you

1113
01:04:28,370 --> 01:04:30,930
need drama. So I'm just. I'm fearful that we're

1114
01:04:30,930 --> 01:04:34,210
headed in. To a certain direction with. With a lot

1115
01:04:34,210 --> 01:04:36,730
of these shows tend to fall into these Traps.

1116
01:04:36,730 --> 01:04:40,249
Which brings me to number four. And I have talked

1117
01:04:40,249 --> 01:04:42,530
about this show, I've talked about I think all of

1118
01:04:42,530 --> 01:04:44,770
these shows at some point this year. I've

1119
01:04:44,770 --> 01:04:49,220
mentioned these Motorheads season one. to my

1120
01:04:49,220 --> 01:04:51,980
knowledge this show is not returning for season

1121
01:04:51,980 --> 01:04:54,780
two and I think that's Bullocks because this show

1122
01:04:54,780 --> 01:04:59,000
was for me, I did not think I was going to like it

1123
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,960
as much as I did. I went very in depth post show

1124
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,480
with Will about what happens in the finale because

1125
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,800
I could not get over it. I'm still traumatized by

1126
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,840
that. And now you're telling me I'm not gonna get

1127
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:16,640
any follow up. They also have a corresponding well

1128
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:22,600
written family mystery from the past going on that

1129
01:05:23,630 --> 01:05:26,320
sometimes works but are more often than not does

1130
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,360
not work in these types of show. And that, that

1131
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,880
kept me entertained with all of the, the school

1132
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,600
kid age, high school kid age melodrama happening

1133
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:42,000
simultaneously. So I, I, I hope somehow maybe

1134
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:47,560
Netflix picks it up. But I, I, I think this show

1135
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,560
needs a season two. The chat, the kid actors are

1136
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:56,000
really good, the screen chemistry is good and I, I

1137
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,320
think it had so much potential going into a second

1138
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,160
season that I, I hope it finds a way. And I say

1139
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,960
that because the next show I'm going to bring up

1140
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,560
is School Spirits which was originally on Netflix.

1141
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,240
I did not watch it. Then earlier this year,

1142
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:17,960
randomly on a random, on a random like Saturday or

1143
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:22,730
Sunday, I suddenly put on School Spirits and I

1144
01:06:22,730 --> 01:06:25,610
just start watching it, become obsessed with it.

1145
01:06:25,690 --> 01:06:28,250
Watch season one and then I'm like there's no

1146
01:06:28,250 --> 01:06:31,930
season two. And then I find out, well, Netflix

1147
01:06:31,930 --> 01:06:35,370
canceled, it got picked up on Amazon Amazon and

1148
01:06:35,450 --> 01:06:38,730
Amazon is just so happening to be airing season

1149
01:06:38,730 --> 01:06:42,290
two. So then I jump on a season two and I'm so

1150
01:06:42,290 --> 01:06:45,330
glad it got greenlit for season three and we're

1151
01:06:45,330 --> 01:06:47,600
getting a season three next season year. I just,

1152
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:52,400
this show, it's initially, it's very much like

1153
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,200
this girl dies and she finds herself in limbo in

1154
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,400
her high school and she meets all these other

1155
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,520
ghosts and they're haunting the high school. But

1156
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,430
they they go into places and there's this one

1157
01:07:04,430 --> 01:07:07,710
episode in season one in particular where they

1158
01:07:07,710 --> 01:07:13,640
talk about grief very poignantly. And I think

1159
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,760
that's when this show really excels is when it

1160
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:23,240
dig, digs deep into that aspect of the stuff. And

1161
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:28,840
then there is a great romance happening from a few

1162
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:33,600
different angles and life and death. When you're

1163
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:38,380
talking about a lack of fulfillment like you're,

1164
01:07:38,380 --> 01:07:41,340
you're talking, the show is centered around people

1165
01:07:41,340 --> 01:07:44,940
who died at Such a young age that, that, like,

1166
01:07:45,740 --> 01:07:48,180
well, what does that mean? Like, I had all this

1167
01:07:48,180 --> 01:07:53,660
potential. Like I can't finish what I started. So

1168
01:07:53,740 --> 01:07:57,770
I, I, think this show, again, another surprise.

1169
01:07:57,770 --> 01:08:01,730
I'm so glad I randomly stumbled upon it and I'm so

1170
01:08:01,730 --> 01:08:04,560
glad I'm getting a third season. Hopefully with

1171
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,240
that third season, it ends up potentially in my

1172
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,880
top five of the year. And that brings me to

1173
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,120
another thing that I never saw coming. And I've

1174
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,320
talked about this show. Spirit fingers. This is a

1175
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:21,800
K drama. Yeah. I will say why it's number two is

1176
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,400
because upon rewatch and I have rewatched this,

1177
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,200
this show, I tend to skip through a certain

1178
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:32,580
storyline. The main storyline I watch all the way

1179
01:08:32,580 --> 01:08:35,820
through. I have rewatched episodes. I have watched

1180
01:08:35,820 --> 01:08:38,780
certain compilations because I think the, the main

1181
01:08:38,780 --> 01:08:42,260
chemistry between the two main actors is just so

1182
01:08:42,260 --> 01:08:46,700
well done. And I also love all of the family stuff

1183
01:08:46,860 --> 01:08:49,900
and the confidence building happening with the

1184
01:08:50,140 --> 01:08:53,140
main female lead. I think that's why the show

1185
01:08:53,140 --> 01:08:55,900
works so well for me is because there's a balance

1186
01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:01,600
between the A plot and the B plot. And, and so I,

1187
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:06,200
I, I had to put it on my list the last show, I'm

1188
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:10,160
going to say, and my number one because this one,

1189
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:11,800
we've talked about it while we were going through

1190
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,440
our top five list. It's about the shows that stick

1191
01:09:14,440 --> 01:09:17,440
with you. Ginny and Georgia season three. Now

1192
01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:20,080
I've, I watched Ginny and Georgia season one in

1193
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:23,539
season two, I, I think I got on the train with

1194
01:09:23,539 --> 01:09:26,899
season two, if I'm not mistaken. But season three,

1195
01:09:27,059 --> 01:09:30,139
it's just like, okay, all right, this, this show

1196
01:09:30,139 --> 01:09:33,779
is running on all cylinders. There is an episode

1197
01:09:34,099 --> 01:09:37,219
where Ginny gets pregnant and has an abortion.

1198
01:09:38,099 --> 01:09:43,259
That episode still sticks with me because I can't

1199
01:09:43,259 --> 01:09:46,259
believe they went there and I'm so proud they did

1200
01:09:46,499 --> 01:09:49,539
because of how they handled it. Especially because

1201
01:09:49,859 --> 01:09:56,320
Georgia, she is also had Ginny as a teenager. So

1202
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,680
the choices and the discussions and the heartbreak

1203
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,440
and between a mother and daughter and life

1204
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,160
repeating and then a different choice being made

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01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:10,400
in the end. It's just, it was such a fascinating

1206
01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:16,800
episode of television that I, I just wish more

1207
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,320
people would watch this show just to get to that

1208
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:23,560
episode in that. And then everything that happens

1209
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:28,080
with Max. Max is my V. MVP of this season because

1210
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:34,320
she very subtly was able to break away from just

1211
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,600
being Jenny's best friend to having her own

1212
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:42,800
storyline in the sense of that's very poignant for

1213
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,960
young, specifically females about wanting to be a

1214
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:52,030
friend but finding yourself like, I don't want to

1215
01:10:52,030 --> 01:10:54,470
make this about me, but nobody's paying attention

1216
01:10:54,470 --> 01:10:57,350
to me. It's a very. It's a high tightrope. And

1217
01:10:57,350 --> 01:10:59,470
then the fact that there's all these subtle

1218
01:10:59,470 --> 01:11:04,270
nuances of OCD behavior with her. The show tackles

1219
01:11:04,510 --> 01:11:08,470
in a very subtle way, mental health. There's an

1220
01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:11,150
eating disorder going on with the character,

1221
01:11:11,470 --> 01:11:15,870
physical abuse. So all of these very high, very

1222
01:11:15,870 --> 01:11:19,730
intense subject matters are buried into the show

1223
01:11:19,810 --> 01:11:23,330
about centered around this single mom named

1224
01:11:23,330 --> 01:11:27,010
Georgia. So I, I had to put this as number one.

1225
01:11:27,410 --> 01:11:32,250
And if arguably this could be in my top top five

1226
01:11:32,250 --> 01:11:37,730
if it had more episodes like that. But yeah, so I,

1227
01:11:37,730 --> 01:11:41,090
I wanted to make sure, like, in a way, this is my

1228
01:11:41,090 --> 01:11:43,930
honorable mentions. In a way, this is my honorable

1229
01:11:43,930 --> 01:11:46,470
mentions list. So I'm just gonna put that all out

1230
01:11:46,470 --> 01:11:47,150
there. So.

1231
01:11:47,230 --> 01:11:51,190
Will: Cool. Cool. Yeah, I don't have any other top list

1232
01:11:51,190 --> 01:11:53,670
other than just maybe if we wanted to do a quick

1233
01:11:53,670 --> 01:11:56,480
look ahead to, 2026 before we wrap up.

1234
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:59,360
Sarah : Here, that is fine. I am a, very much talked out.

1235
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:04,200
So I have. I am looking forward to Paradise Season

1236
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:08,690
2. I'm looking forward to. One piece is on,

1237
01:12:08,690 --> 01:12:12,040
probably on the top of my list. Lanterns will be

1238
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,440
fun. I'm looking forward to the Real Housewives of

1239
01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:17,920
Rhode, Island. I'm looking for all to the Real

1240
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,400
Housewives franchises that are coming out next

1241
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,120
year, but specifically Rhode island because it's

1242
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,440
going to be New York meets New Jersey. So I'm

1243
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:31,280
looking forward to that. And Yeah, yeah, yeah, it.

1244
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,920
I, I think, I think in a way, as we've discussed

1245
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:40,320
for the last like hour and a half, will2025 was a

1246
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,680
great year of television. Standouts, really stood

1247
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:44,000
out.

1248
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:45,120
Will: Yeah.

1249
01:12:45,930 --> 01:12:52,250
Sarah : and I think, I think that 2026 is going to be good

1250
01:12:52,250 --> 01:12:55,770
and strong, but they got some strong movies coming

1251
01:12:55,770 --> 01:12:57,770
out next year, so who knows?

1252
01:12:57,770 --> 01:13:01,530
Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you. I mean, I think for.

1253
01:13:01,530 --> 01:13:04,810
For me as far as TV shows for 2026, very

1254
01:13:04,810 --> 01:13:06,690
fascinated with A Night of the September Seven

1255
01:13:06,690 --> 01:13:09,410
Kingdoms because, you know, it's the next spin off

1256
01:13:09,410 --> 01:13:12,850
from. From Game of Thrones and of course it's will

1257
01:13:12,850 --> 01:13:15,130
be here before we know it in January. But,

1258
01:13:15,090 --> 01:13:17,500
looking, Looking forward. Forward to that. Of

1259
01:13:17,500 --> 01:13:19,700
course we'll have also for House of The Dragon

1260
01:13:19,700 --> 01:13:21,900
Season 3. Definitely looking forward to that. As

1261
01:13:21,900 --> 01:13:24,500
you mentioned, Paradise Season 2. I was just

1262
01:13:24,580 --> 01:13:27,140
watching the trailer before we got. Before we

1263
01:13:27,140 --> 01:13:30,580
started tonight and looking forward to. To. To one

1264
01:13:30,580 --> 01:13:34,410
Piece, of course, and. And also lanterns and a big

1265
01:13:34,410 --> 01:13:37,730
one which is coming to an end. The Boys Season 5.

1266
01:13:38,290 --> 01:13:41,170
And then as far as movies you know, yeah, you're

1267
01:13:41,170 --> 01:13:42,570
right. I mean, we, you know, we finally got the

1268
01:13:42,570 --> 01:13:45,930
Supergirl trailer this past week. It looks. Looks

1269
01:13:45,930 --> 01:13:48,650
very. You know, I liked what I saw there.

1270
01:13:48,650 --> 01:13:51,370
Sarah : And then of course, I always. Sorry to cut you

1271
01:13:51,370 --> 01:13:53,930
off, but Supergirl, I did watch the trailer. I

1272
01:13:53,930 --> 01:13:55,850
watched the trailer the way the trailer is

1273
01:13:55,850 --> 01:13:58,170
supposed to be watched and it's with kind of

1274
01:13:58,170 --> 01:14:01,210
funny. And I say that because Greg Miller is the

1275
01:14:01,210 --> 01:14:05,460
knower of all things. And I did have to stop their

1276
01:14:05,460 --> 01:14:07,780
reaction because he was gonna get into spoilers.

1277
01:14:07,780 --> 01:14:09,980
And I'm like, I think I'm gonna watch the rest of

1278
01:14:09,980 --> 01:14:14,010
this in 2026. Because he has read, and he's very

1279
01:14:14,010 --> 01:14:17,360
knowledgeable about the source material. I, So I

1280
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,000
have to plug it. If. If you're gonna watch

1281
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,600
anyone's reaction, you gotta watch kind of funny's

1282
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,720
reaction on that trailer and anything to do with

1283
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:29,250
Superman because he. He's obsessed.

1284
01:14:29,810 --> 01:14:32,330
Will: Yeah, yeah, I know you've mentioned. Mentioned a

1285
01:14:32,330 --> 01:14:35,130
kind of funny Craigie. Greg Miller definitely is.

1286
01:14:35,130 --> 01:14:37,810
Is definitely obsessed with Superman. But yeah, I

1287
01:14:37,810 --> 01:14:40,170
like the trailer. I know. I thought, you know, I

1288
01:14:40,170 --> 01:14:42,570
saw a lot of lazy takes out there saying it

1289
01:14:42,570 --> 01:14:44,450
reminded him of Guardians of the Galaxy. That's

1290
01:14:44,450 --> 01:14:46,820
the laziest take ever. But, you, know, but I

1291
01:14:46,820 --> 01:14:50,460
thought that, you know, for the vibe that they

1292
01:14:50,460 --> 01:14:53,690
are, that and the aesthetic that they're trying to

1293
01:14:53,690 --> 01:14:57,570
do with, with the DCU and you know, make it, you

1294
01:14:57,570 --> 01:15:00,690
know, expanding the world and understanding who

1295
01:15:00,690 --> 01:15:05,570
Kara is as far as a character. I really liked. I

1296
01:15:05,570 --> 01:15:07,450
really liked it. And I am going to go read

1297
01:15:07,930 --> 01:15:10,290
Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow, the source comic

1298
01:15:10,290 --> 01:15:14,610
book material. Just. It's a blind spot on my comic

1299
01:15:14,610 --> 01:15:17,770
book reads. So I'm going to fill that gap. And

1300
01:15:17,770 --> 01:15:19,610
then of course, you know, of course we got

1301
01:15:19,690 --> 01:15:22,890
business. Doomsday. And there's the whole trailer

1302
01:15:22,890 --> 01:15:25,250
leaked that. The trailer leak that may have. That

1303
01:15:25,330 --> 01:15:27,890
happened today. You know, if I did watch it, I'm

1304
01:15:27,890 --> 01:15:30,930
not gonna, you know, I'm gonna take the. I'm going

1305
01:15:30,930 --> 01:15:33,450
to not spoil it for folks who want to be

1306
01:15:33,450 --> 01:15:36,850
surprised, but it is. But the trailer is going to

1307
01:15:36,850 --> 01:15:42,690
be a part of the upcoming Avatar movie that's

1308
01:15:42,690 --> 01:15:45,250
going to be released, I believe this Friday. And

1309
01:15:45,250 --> 01:15:47,650
then I think from my understand, they're going to

1310
01:15:47,650 --> 01:15:51,440
release three other little teasers, each week

1311
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,880
leading up to, I guess there's a. A doomsday

1312
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:58,400
countdown clock to count down to this film coming

1313
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:02,920
out, you know, next December. So. Yeah, and it

1314
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,680
also, you know, and also, you know, to set to set

1315
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,040
things up. Avengers Endgame is also going to be

1316
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,440
re. Released in September of next year as well. So

1317
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,800
that's some of the. Those are some of the things I

1318
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,840
was looking forward to as far as 2026.

1319
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:20,140
Sarah : Well, it has been a fun year, Will, and I

1320
01:16:20,140 --> 01:16:22,900
appreciate everyone who has been with us and

1321
01:16:23,060 --> 01:16:26,260
anyone who has found us this year and has

1322
01:16:26,900 --> 01:16:31,540
navigated all of these TV shows with us and these,

1323
01:16:32,100 --> 01:16:35,620
these dramas. If you haven't listened to our

1324
01:16:35,620 --> 01:16:38,940
reaction to Superman, you should, specifically

1325
01:16:38,940 --> 01:16:41,940
because of the story I tell. Okay. Talk about.

1326
01:16:43,340 --> 01:16:46,940
Okay, it's a great story. It is. It is majority of

1327
01:16:46,940 --> 01:16:49,540
the podcast, but it is a great story and it does

1328
01:16:49,540 --> 01:16:53,180
tie into Superman. Okay, definitely does. It is

1329
01:16:53,180 --> 01:16:56,660
not a tangent. It is a story that had to be told

1330
01:16:56,660 --> 01:16:58,620
and it was. Okay.

1331
01:16:59,340 --> 01:17:04,510
Will: Yeah, yeah, it's a great story. And But yeah, it's

1332
01:17:04,510 --> 01:17:06,590
been a fun year. I mean, this has been, you know,

1333
01:17:06,590 --> 01:17:09,030
as we, you know, we went through some periods

1334
01:17:09,030 --> 01:17:12,360
there with writer strikes and Covid and active

1335
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,990
strikes and everything in between, where content

1336
01:17:14,990 --> 01:17:17,110
kind of slowed down, but things are, things are

1337
01:17:17,110 --> 01:17:20,410
picking up again. And you know, I guess we've been

1338
01:17:20,410 --> 01:17:22,250
doing this. I guess we've been potting together

1339
01:17:22,250 --> 01:17:26,330
since January 2017. So we're coming up on a decade

1340
01:17:26,330 --> 01:17:28,930
and I've loved every, every single minute of it.

1341
01:17:28,930 --> 01:17:32,690
And I hope everyone's enjoyed, enjoyed our, our

1342
01:17:32,690 --> 01:17:36,450
weekly recaps and thoughts and tangents on things.

1343
01:17:36,450 --> 01:17:38,530
But hey, I couldn't, couldn't imagine doing it

1344
01:17:38,530 --> 01:17:39,410
with anybody else.

1345
01:17:39,410 --> 01:17:43,350
Sarah : And if I will admit, if it needed to, if have

1346
01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:44,830
watched it this year and it should have.

1347
01:17:46,350 --> 01:17:48,190
Will: Yeah. The only reason why I didn't put Stranger,

1348
01:17:48,190 --> 01:17:49,750
you know, Stranger Things is for me was like

1349
01:17:49,750 --> 01:17:51,110
incomplete. So I can't.

1350
01:17:51,110 --> 01:17:54,150
Sarah : Exactly. That's why I did the asterisk that, that

1351
01:17:54,150 --> 01:17:58,350
counts as a 26 show. Okay. Yeah, 26 show. Same

1352
01:17:58,350 --> 01:18:01,070
thing with Fallout. So on that note, Will, why

1353
01:18:01,070 --> 01:18:02,670
don't you tell our listeners where they can find

1354
01:18:02,670 --> 01:18:02,990
you?

1355
01:18:03,310 --> 01:18:06,870
Will: Yes, you can find me at, Will and Polk. W, I L L M

1356
01:18:06,870 --> 01:18:09,220
P O L K on all the socials.

1357
01:18:09,690 --> 01:18:11,610
Sarah : And you can find me there too at SJ Belmont

1358
01:18:11,610 --> 01:18:14,890
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01:18:14,890 --> 01:18:16,800
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1360
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,040
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01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,680
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01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,239
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1363
01:18:25,239 --> 01:18:28,000
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1364
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,880
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1365
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,480
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1366
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:52,409
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