
In this episode of Scene N Nerd, Sarah and Will tackle the penultimate episode of Paradise Season 2, Episode 7, titled "The Final Countdown." The dynamic duo delves into the complex dynamics as Xavier faces unfinished business while Sinatra and Link prepare for impending threats. Their discussion highlights the emotional weight of flashbacks featuring Cal, and the nuanced character developments that have shaped the bunker’s inhabitants. The pair also explores the evolving relationships among the characters, including the reunion of Xavier and Teri, and the implications of their pasts on their current actions. They reflect on the moral dilemmas presented in the episode, as well as the overarching themes of survival and family in a post-apocalyptic world.
Switching gears, they dive into the latest adventures in One Piece Season 2, Episodes 4-6, where the crew encounters giants and prehistoric creatures on Little Garden. They discuss Usopp's character growth and the importance of bravery, as well as the introduction of Ms. Goldenweek and her sinister powers that challenge the crew's resolve. The conversation also touches on the deeper connections between Vivi and her past, the politics of Drum Island, and the significance of building alliances in their ongoing journey. As they analyze the episodes, they highlight the balance of humor, horror, and action that makes One Piece a standout series.
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0:00 - Welcome & Nerd News (Starfleet Academy, Wonder Man, The Punisher)
13:30 - Paradise Season 2, Episode 7 "The Final Countdown"
44:50 - One Piece Season 2, Episodes 4-6
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>> Sarah : Foreign. Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah Belmont and
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with me as always is our Mr. Producer, Will Paul.
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Carried in tonight. Will.
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>> Will: Doing very well. Sarah. How you doing this
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evening? Looking forward to talking some paradise,
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penultimate episode with you and One Piece. And we
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got some news tonight as well.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, why don't you go ahead and start us off with
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the news.
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>> Will: Yeah, so, yeah, it's been a while since we've done
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a nerd news, segment. But I definitely wanted to,
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you know, start off I was in the process of
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putting together my script for my thoughts on
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Starfleet Academy season one and then it wasn't
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able to like record this weekend and then I'm kind
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of glad I didn't because we learned this week that
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the series is being canceled. That's right. we got
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word yesterday that Starfleet, Academy is going to
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be ending after its second season which the second
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season just ramped production only a few weeks
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ago. And And I have to, you know, basically the
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line from Paramount plus was basically that as far
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as the, the show's ratings that never really
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cracked, the top 10 as far as the, the Nielsen
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streaming charts and everything. But you know,
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and, and that is a very fair point. But at the
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same time, there was, oh, this show. I've been
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thinking about it a little bit after, after we've
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gotten word about the about the cancellation and
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all throughout the season, you know I've shared
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with you Sarah, off Mike and even I think you're
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on the pod, just some of the toxicity, Star, Star
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Trek fan base and people calling it too woke and
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to this and you know, the misogyny, the, the
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homophobia and all the other that was out there
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and, and bad faith grifter reactors, and So the
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show really from the get had a very uphill path to
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climb. But I, you know, but there is a very
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passionate fan base out there for this show and I,
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and I was really thinking it reminded me a lot of
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some of the. This discourse and discussion with
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another big fandom with star in it and that's Star
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Wars. And in the conversations around the acolyte,
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it was a very, you know, very parallel type of
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dynamic going on with with that, with Starfleet
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Academy where you had all these gatekeepers and
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you know, all these people saying that's not my
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Star Trek and all that kind of stuff. And you
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know, the goat himself, William Shatner got out
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here and you know, last Night and, and posted on
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his social media accounts how he, you know, he had
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heard about the cancellation and, and the goat
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himself, William Shatner, is basically like, so
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said, look, you know, when I, you know, had the,
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one of the first interracial kisses on tv. And you
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know, if, you know, if, if in my time, you know,
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I, People will probably call our show too woke or
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DEI or that kind of stuff. So, you know, there's a
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lot of bad faith BS out there. So, yeah, so two
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things can't be true. Yes, it is true that the
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show didn't have, the strongest of ratings. And,
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and I could see it from an economic standpoint how
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with a big budget show like this, you know, you
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gotta have return on investment.
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>> Sarah : Yeah.
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>> Will: But it's also true that there was a lot of
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toxicity out there in the fan base and this is why
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we can't have nice things. So I'm still, I'm still
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planning on giving my thoughts on the, overall
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with the first season. And we will see the second
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season, I guess it'll come in in 2027. Of course,
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we still have the last season, and a half of,
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Strange New Worlds. that'll be, I think Strange
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say, later this year, and then we'll have, an
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abbreviated fifth season for, for Strange New
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Worlds. And, and then after that, you know, who
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knows what's going to happen with the Star Trek
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franchise because, you know, because we do have a
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new ownership group, at Paramount. they have
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talked about, you know, reinvigorating the feature
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film franchise. but, you know, we shall see.
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>> Sarah : if anything they need to do is hire Tyler
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Sherindan to write a Star Trek because he, like,
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owns Paramount. Plus at this point, because I did
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watch the Mad Madison, Michelle Pfeiffer, Kurt
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Russell, it's good. It's. I wouldn't say it's
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great. it's a bit slow and I, I did a lot of,
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skipping because I was like, oh, we're just gonna
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spend the next two minutes looking down at the
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scenery. Okay. And then six episodes. So what they
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did was they dropped three last week and they
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dropped three this week.
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>> Sarah : it's different than other Sheridan shows, but it.
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is there. so I just. And, and from what I
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understand, we're gonna get a season two because
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the ratings have been good. Okay. And, which. Go
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figure.
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Sarah : With him and his history with shows on Paramount
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marking territory
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>> Will: for sure.
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>> Sarah : I'm waiting for him to do the Alaska Edition
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edition. So, so I, I watched that, but the other
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show I watched, I've been watching, I'm not
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finished with it. Nobody tell me. Spoilers, that I
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actually think you would like and I think you
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would be proud that I even watched this because
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this is a very you show. it's the new Nicole
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Kidman show out on Amazon is for PETA.
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>> Sarah : And she, is a medical or the state medical
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examiner for Virginia. And Okay. It, and you know
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that in this type of genre with the crime and, and
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detective work and all, I, I have issues with,
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flashbacks. they use them very smartly in this
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show.
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>> Will: Okay.
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>> Sarah : Very smartly. The first episode is literally
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called A Bridge Between Time Part one, and the
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last episode is A Bridge Between Time Part two.
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>> Sarah : So I, I am, I, will admit the first episode is
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hard to get through because pacing, setup, and
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also, this is not a show you can eat while
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watching. I m at like, you're, you're looking at a
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lot of dead bodies and they're, they're dead, but
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they also don't look nice. Okay, got it. Yeah,
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yeah, you're, you're looking at a lot of. There
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are some horrific images that occur and
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everything, but they, they go in some interesting
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places that I did not expect. Expect. the actors,
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of course, are good with, Nicole Kidman and even,
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even the past versions. Like I said, this isn't
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really a spoiler, but, but they do a lot of
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flashbacks. So you, you see a cl. you see K and
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her family and, and co, workers and in present day
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and then also in past. So they're, the younger
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versions are also holding their own. Even though
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Kidman's counterpart as the younger. The first
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episode, I was like, yeah, that's not Nicole
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Kidman. I was like, I think you could. But as it's
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gone on, it's gotten better. I've been like, okay,
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yeah, so yeah, I, I, I think you should check it
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out. And I think others have. I know it's like
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number one right now on Amazon, so. Oh, and
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speaking about Amazon, I am watching watching Jury
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Duty Presents.
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>> Will: Yeah, I was wondering, I heard, I heard about Jury
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Duty season, two, and I was just like, I was
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wondering if you were, if you were watching it so,
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you know, you just answered my question.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, I. They've so far released three
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episodes. I've only watched two of the three. I
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just haven't made my way back there. But, But
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yeah, I, It. It's. It's definitely different. It's
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not Jury Duty, but it's not. Not Jury Duty. They,
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they know how to pick these guys to follow and be
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the unknowingly straight guy.
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>> Will: Okay.
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>> Sarah : In these shows very well. And I think that's why
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it's successful now. Then again, I've only seen
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two of the three that have been released. I
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haven't seen the full, full show. So we will see
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if. Because I do remember getting a bit tired of
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some of the sticks that occurred in season one.
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and I think from a technical perspective, season
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one was a bigger achievement because they were in
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a very confined space for that period of time, or
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spaces while with. With the company retreat. They
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>> Sarah : It feels so much more like the Office than Jury
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to our main topics, but two. Two quick Marvel
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updates, before. Before we do that, one, which I
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did, you did Wonder man, Season two is coming and
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that because as if you. For folks who, who listen
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to us, you. You will know my. I was not that high
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on this show at first when I first heard about it.
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>> Sarah : I really don't want to cover it, y'.
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>> Will: All.
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>> Sarah : I forced to.
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>> Will: Yeah, you did, you did and I'm so glad you did. I
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would have missed out on something very special as
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far as Marvel Television. So, so yeah, it got
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renewed. And then also today, John Barenthal
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shared on his Instagram, the Marvel special
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presentation that we've heard about. You know,
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to drop but we. We got word that the Punisher one
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last kill, will be ah, premiering on. On Disney
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plus on May 12th. So. So yeah, so that's the the
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latest roundup of news items from
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>> Sarah : Marvel and we both watched Brand New Day trailer.
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>> Will: to me, they should always listen to
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>> Sarah : you because I just, I mean it's just, it's so,
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it's so good. Like the, the, even just knowing
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that they. Before Tom Holland was doing. Did his
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screen test, he read lines with Bernthal because
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they were working on the movie together.
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>> Sarah : And. And to see like, it's just. Yes. This is what
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we want. This is what we want. We want the, the
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larger than life spectacle with like, well
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grounded human themes, but we also want this inner
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working behind the scenes of like fate. so it's
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just, it's just so cool. and a knock on wood,
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everyone remains a good. Presumably a good person.
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
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>> Sarah : all right, well, that brings us to Paradise,
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Season 2, Episode 7, 7 the Final Countdown. And I
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am going to curse this episode because that
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freaking song. As soon as I read the title, it
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started playing and then they talked about it and
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I was like, no, stop it. We're. Luckily it doesn't
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stick, but man does. As. As soon as you hear those
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words, like one track mind, it just turns on like
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a radio. this IMDb summary is Xavier has
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unfinished business. Meanwhile, Sinatra meets the
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meets with Link as Paradise prepares for a
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potential threat. Will, where do you want to start
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with this episode?
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>> Will: I, you know, let's just start with. With the
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flashback because I, I have to say, for me, I've
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missed James Marston.
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>> Sarah : Thank you. That, that was like. My highlight of
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this episode was like, yeah, we really need to
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step up the Cal flashbacks because he is just
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brilliant in an absence I have missed.
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>> Will: Yes, Yes. I mean he, to me, he's like the low key.
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whatever. We. Episode seven, I think, and, and
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Fogelman don't let me down in season three, but
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we're gonna have a speech by Cal that just sets
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the tone for everything. And I really, you know,
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to that point about the flashback, I really liked
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how the, the episode started. And for folks who,
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who, if you listen to the paradise, radio on Hulu,
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it's a website that they've set up as a companion
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piece for the show. And they, you can like tune
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into to various frequencies and you know, they'll
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give like, you know, either snippet of a speech
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or, or a scene or whatever. And one of the things
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that they, they, that they had on this week was
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Kyle talking about the, the, the, the pajamas that
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he bought.
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>> Sarah : Yeah.
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>> Will: So whenever this episode aired and they were
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walking, you know, in the bowels of. Of the bunker
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and, you know, going. And he was having the
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conversation about, you know, you know, the
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expensive indulgence and. And all that. And then
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when you have the, this. The moment there in the
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episode with Kyle talking to Sinatra about how,
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you know, empires don't fall on film.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, that happens at the end.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. that. I was just like, I love the
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symmetry and the bookends of that and, and for me,
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as someone who works annuity planning and that
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kind of stuff in my date. In my. In my. It's one
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of the things that deal with. In my day job. I
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just really, really. That. That whole thing really
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resonated with me as far as. Just like everything
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that Steve's greatness has one common thing they
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think in common. They end. And you know, just.
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Just I think the hubris of the folks who built
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this bunker and didn't like, come up with, you
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know, did not see. Did not in all the scenarios,
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all the. All the smart people in the room and all,
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you know, all these brilliant folks, you know, it
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was this Cowan and his. His common sense that
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really just like, you know, really, you pointed
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out the faulty. The design defect in this bunker.
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know. Yeah, he just seems like this rube who just.
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That. That people just underestimate, especially
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because he's a pretty boy, but he's, you know, he
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has that. That innate street smarts, I guess, and.
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>> Sarah : Well, he. He. Mars didn't just in general. And a
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lot of the characters he plays, but especially
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this one, manages to walk that line of. At the
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beginning of the episode while they're doing the
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tour, he. There's that moment where it's like,
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okay, dumb it down. Dumb it down again. Dumb it
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down. Take it back, take it back. So. So he. He.
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He knows his limits. He's like, I don't understand
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that. I understand this. So it's this line of I. I
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hear what you're saying and what you've done, but
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I don't understand it. So you need to. You need to
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talk as if you're talking to a third grader. and
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then the. The. The between the pajamas and then
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Helm's deep reenactment, which was great.
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>> Will: Yep.
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>> Sarah : He. He starts to use, Use, use things that are
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relevant to him and that he understands to kind of
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express, okay, so what if this happens? What if
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the orgs evade? Like, he. He's able to then also
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in return say, okay, but what if. Worst case
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scenario.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : and. And it. So it allows then to be caught off
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guard when he has that. That final speech with
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about, the falling of empires and everything. And
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I thought, Samantha was interesting during that
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with some of the looks and. But it makes sense. It
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makes sense that the hubris, as you put it, got in
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the way of not only Samantha, but even the
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designer who we now meet in present day, who, who
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inadvertently was contributing as an org into the
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downfall of this creation. It's. It's the, You
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want to create something, and so you get
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distracted so much by that final product and
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actually achieving it that you don't. You don't
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see the flaws. But then again, very simply, at the
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beginning, Cal says he does not want the bunker to
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be the. To be. He wants. No, he wants the bunker
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to become the pajamas.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Samantha has never not wanted the bunker to not
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only be built and work efficiently, but to be
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used. And that motivation and objective allows
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them to have a different perspective during this
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whole, review of the. Of the, Of what's been set
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up and how it will work.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : So that. That objectivity is granted to Cal and
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not to Samantha. and. And she doesn't want to see
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it. She does not want to see it. She doesn't want
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to hear it because she is so close to what she
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wants. and. And she. She also strongly believes,
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like, the end of world will happen and there's
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nothing we can do about it. And so I'm doing this.
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, she. Yeah, she, you know, she,
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you know, not only the. The volcano, but also, you
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know, go back to think of doctor. Dr. Luge, you
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know, talking about the. The. The warming part
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two. Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Which we haven't seen yet. We're not, so that's
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still something out there. Where we. At, the
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beginning of the season, they brought up Act 2
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very purposely. And so. And I think now looking
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back at it, it's kind of a red herring for Alex.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : When. When Act 2 is something else altogether,
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which we'll probably see. and they'll deal more
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with in season three, I would imagine, because
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there. I don't. I don't suspect they didn't. They
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brought it up for it to just be a throwaway thing.
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>> Will: No, no. Everything in this show, as we've seen so
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far in these first, these two seasons, everything
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has a purpose.
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>> Sarah : Like it or don't.
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>> Will: Exactly. Exactly.
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>> Sarah : Whether it's annoying or not.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Well. Well, I'm glad we started there let's,
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before we get more into present day bunker
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shenanigans, let's, let's talk about Xavier and
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Terry. Yeah, yeah, they're there. And Terry and
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Bean. And I have, I have one note I really want to
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talk about in terms of the Xavier Terry reunion is
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the, the redundant line of we got a lot of catch
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up on and I wrote in parentheses. Yeah, like your
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white adopted children.
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>> Will: Yeah, the inverse. This is us.
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>> Sarah : It's never not gonna be funny to me.
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>> Will: I thought when I saw whenever she delivered that
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line and when they were talking about, like, like
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you don't, you don't.
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>> Sarah : You gotta.
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>> Will: I heard, yeah, I heard your voice in my head as I,
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I literally laughed out loud whenever, whenever
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they were, they said that. And then also as they
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were walking together, and you know, they're
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talking about the dating pool and stuff and you're
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like, and she was like, oh, he's white. Yeah,
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yeah, so, yeah,
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>> Sarah : yeah, yeah, the dating pool line. Classic, classic
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Fogelman, from this is Us as well. I, I know that.
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but what are, what are some of your thoughts
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about, Terry, Xavier, Gary and Bean?
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>> Will: Yeah, so I guess what, Terry and ah, Xavier just
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started with them first. and also just the other
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thing as far as catching up. I know I, I, I, I, I
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have a different, a better appreciation now of
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episode two and the, and the flashback of them
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meeting. because I think it, it, it definitely
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helps to, to me it just sort of helped flesh the
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flesh out their relationship before, before. And,
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and we, I touched on that some, whenever we talked
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about it, in, in the, in the review we did of
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that, of that episode. But also the, the, the line
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as far as people, you know, both of them, you
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know, constantly saying, you know, I, I have to
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check, you know, I got to keep catch up on things.
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And you know, and you know, and, and you know we
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see, we see the, the, the, the three years of
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Xavier, wherever he, you know, he, he's had to do
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things outside the bunker to survive, you know,
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because he had the protection. You know, he had
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to, he's always been that protective bubble of,
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you know, being the protective as a Secret Service
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agent for the president. and, and you know, and
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we, we see that now where he's doing that with,
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with Terry there after they get reunited. the
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other thing too, I just have, just as an aside,
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you know, I wonder if they're gonna get into the
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whole Xavier and the Robbie thing from, season
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one. But it's Just Yeah, yeah, but as far as
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explaining things, but, but that being said, the
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other thing with Bean, you know, we see how, you
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know, to your point about you know, adopting the
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white kids, you know, Terry has, you know, she
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sees that as, as her family and it was part of her
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motivations to to help ground her in this, in this
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folks apocalyptic world and gave her you know, you
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know, I guess some, some meaning and is trying to
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make sure that he, that you know, that the kid is
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going to be okay. And then of course, you know, we
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see the delivery of the note and, and then of
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course that goes to Gary and, and I really you
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know, I think I was really wondering, I didn't
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think, you know, even though they kept teasing the
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moment of that that you know, that Xavier was
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gonna have to take him out. I never thought that
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was going to be the case. I, I, I, I really like,
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I really thought that Terry would get through to
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him. But whenever, you know, when, when Gary
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basically tells Terry ah, to you know, just you
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know, that you know, tell him about when Gary
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tells him tell, you know, she, she says she,
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she'll tell him about the man who saved us. You
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know, whenever they walked out of the mail, the
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mail office, I, I, I half expected to hear a
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gunshot because I really thought Gary was g, his
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world ended at that point. but, and it, but I
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think it's implied and I, and I appreciate that
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they didn't just, just do that but I, I don't know
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if that was your take on with what he committed
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>> Sarah : suicide.
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>> Will: I, I, I false. I, I really, I half expected here,
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here and him. Yeah. Take his own life after she,
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after she left the post office.
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>> Sarah : But no, I understand that. But you said, then you
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said it's implied.
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>> Will: Yeah, I just maybe, maybe. Well I'm just, I mean
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maybe that's what we're supposed to take away as
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viewers instead of putting it on the news of us
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actually hearing him do it.
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>> Sarah : No, that doesn't seem like this show. It's all the
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telegraphing that happened in this episode. I
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doubt that. I don't, I don't think that you, there
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would be that line. Yes, I will tell him about the
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man who saved us. And then it's implied that Gary
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took his own life. Okay, I, I just, I, that
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doesn't add up to me and I don't, I don't find
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that as an implication. But everyone's entitled to
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their interpretation of how that scene scene plays
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up out. but yeah,
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>> Will: or maybe Gary just, you know, he just figures out
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a way to pull himself together and, you know, have
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to live with the consequences of killing his best
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friend, you know.
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>> Sarah : Well, she tells him you have an opportunity to
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start over again. Like what he's done over the
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last three years won't define him if he doesn't
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let it. And you can't unchange something like
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that. So theoretically. So you. I. Yeah, I, I
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don't know. We might even see Gary again for all I
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know.
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>> Will: That's very possible.
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>> Sarah : That's always a possibility. but the, the thing is
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that, is that he he doesn't take his life at the
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end of the day. So.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : I don't know.
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>> Will: Yeah, no, yeah.
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>> Sarah : This whole storyline kind of. It, it was fine. It
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was necessary. I understand Xavier's lead of her
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show. However, there's so much other stuff going
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on that is. It kind of drug this down a bit. But
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All right, so that brings us to present day in the
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bunker. you've already brought her up. So we will
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talk about the Robbie's increased paranoia because
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I, I called it last week of how stupid she was to
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confront Jane. Only then now for her to
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immediately show like she realizes how stupid she
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was and then she ups Annie and ups Annie again.
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And then, you know, to go back to Terry. Terry
506
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told Xavier what we murdering people now? Well,
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his mistresses. His mistresses.
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>> Will: Yeah. She's gonna. Yeah, I, yeah, she is. And
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she's gonna have to definitely, you know.
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>> Sarah : And what is the consequences? what is with this
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character and the shower? Okay. Because we all
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know what happened in season one in the shower.
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Now this, now this. This is my villain of the
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show. No,
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>> Will: I was wondering if, if if the Robbie was gonna get
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a redemption arc for you there, but I guess not.
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>> Sarah : It's hard. It's hard. If people have been with us
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long enough. If you've heard me about various
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clothes, it's very hard to get redemption. You
520
00:30:02,970 --> 00:30:05,970
might earn redemption with general public. Be it
521
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with me, it's like pulling teeth. Pulling teeth.
522
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It takes a lot. What? other shenanigans. Hadley.
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>> Will: Ah.
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>> Sarah : And Presley.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Continuing to see them. Hadley is very
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interesting. she. I'm like, when are we gonna get
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a flashback with her and going down and she. It's
529
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like she's bubble girl. You get this feeling as
530
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though Samantha and her dad inadvertently did put
531
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her in a buttable and she has, has been locked in
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there a lot longer than they've all been in the
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bunker.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : which is very opposite of Presley, who has had to
536
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step up in this absence of her mother and been.
537
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Been more of a caretaker role. so I. I like the
538
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pairing. And I also. I mean, we're gonna get more.
539
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Because now they're stuck in an elevator.
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>> Will: Yep. Yeah. Gotta figure out how to get out.
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>> Sarah : Yeah. Which. Which is not good because
542
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simultaneously, while they are going down to. I
543
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don't know, it's. It's just this funny idea. Okay,
544
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so we think we know Jeremy's down there and other
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people potentially too. So we're just going to use
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the elevator. Even though there's probably going
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to be armed guards. We think there's a prison down
548
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there, but we're just going to go down and use the
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elevator, you know, and just walk out and
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everything will be fine. Totally allowed. Totally
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allowed to be down there. The. The. The bracelet
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says so.
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>> Will: Yeah, exactly. The bracelet says so. Yeah, well,
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you know. Yeah, well, you know, we are, you know,
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two to Robson's point. You know, you know, we're
556
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dealing with young kids here, so they had thought.
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They haven't thought A to B to C, so.
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>> Sarah : Well, they may not have thought about aid A to Z,
559
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but. But Jeremy has definitely thought about his
560
00:32:10,580 --> 00:32:13,180
feelings towards Robinson and the fact that he was
561
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sleeping with his father. And I, I, you know, for
562
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a moment there, he was in the lead, and then she.
563
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She, she did a right hook. And so now I'm like,
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okay, we're tied. We're even with the verbal
565
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sparring that occurred between these two
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characters this episode.
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>> Will: Yeah, indeed.
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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. But, Robinson, I don't think, has been
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utilized to the fullest potential this season. To
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the point where I forgot she had an affair with
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Cal.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Until way later this season. And now that we're
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getting that, it's very interesting. And then in
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the back of my mind, these conversations also just
576
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,560
remind me, so where is. Where's Jeremy's mom?
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We've suffered in the first season. I've never
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seen her since.
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>> Will: No, no, we really.
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>> Sarah : Yeah.
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>> Will: I mean, that's the thing. The Bunker really has,
582
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like, only focused on the. The key core characters
583
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this season. because,
584
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>> Sarah : Well, there's so much going on. I feel like the
585
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bunker, there's a lot of momentum, especially
586
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within these last two to three episodes, because,
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I mean, call the episode what it is, final
588
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countdown.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : And so you suddenly have all of these, for lack of
591
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a better word, plot devices happening, so you
592
00:33:44,510 --> 00:33:48,310
can't really delve deep into the characters that
593
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are in the bunker, which honestly, at the same
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time, we were in the bunker the whole first
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season.
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's by design, clearly.
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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. what. Any, Anything else you want to
598
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add in about Jeremy and, Robinson's, play to
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release the gates?
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>> Will: no, I think we touched on, I think we touched on
601
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it from the fail safe, earlier and yeah, so, yeah,
602
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we can, we can definitely move on to, to the Alex
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and Sinatra and Link.
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>> Sarah : All right. What you want to talk about?
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>> Will: Well, I mean, of course, you know, you know,
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Sinatra is back in charge and you know, they, you
607
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,970
know, to your point, you know, to. Since we were
608
00:34:34,970 --> 00:34:38,010
talking about the, the, the, the fail safe and
609
00:34:38,010 --> 00:34:40,050
the, and the, and the protocol. Because now of
610
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course, you know, they, they, they were, you know,
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the billionaires all were considering, you know,
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you know, going into lockdown protocol because of,
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of the concerns of the, group outside the, the
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bunker. And, and But no, I mean, you know, but
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Sina.
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>> Sarah : So we had the negotiations. In this episode, what
617
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did, what did you think about the conversation
618
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that occurred between Alex or not Alex, Sam and
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Link in this episode?
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>> Will: I, you know, I, I really enjoyed that. Even
621
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though, it was very revealing. I just, I, I like
622
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the sparring that was going on, but between,
623
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between the two of them as far as just kind of
624
00:35:27,620 --> 00:35:33,490
filling each other out. and, and you know, in, you
625
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know, the whole apple pie thing, it, you know, it
626
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was just they, you know, Julianne Nicholson and
627
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Thomas Daughtry just really played well off each
628
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other. as far as. Just like these two adversaries
629
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trying to find, you know, trying to see if one of
630
00:35:54,830 --> 00:35:56,670
them is going to slip and then they could, the
631
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other person could take advantage of that.
632
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>> Sarah : I just was distracted on. I didn't realize how
633
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much they have the same eyes throughout the entire
634
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scene. So, I mean, I knew where it was headed.
635
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>> Will: Yeah, same.
636
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>> Sarah : so with the Dylan and then. I don't know why, I
637
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,960
don't know why we felt the need to add in the line
638
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,560
about what's your birth date? I was like, come on.
639
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Okay.
640
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>> Will: Yeah, well, they set it up. They did set it up
641
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earlier with Hadley. So.
642
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>> Sarah : No, that's why I don't think it's needed. Like,
643
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,840
dude, so this is what I'm saying with Telegraph,
644
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,840
all the telegraphing that was happening this
645
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,080
episode, it's like, you're okay. Awesome. Like,
646
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,600
like it, it didn't, it was not lost on me. Okay,
647
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,480
so we, we've known about the dead kid for two
648
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,920
seasons and this is the first episode in which we
649
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,880
hear the name and the set, and the first time we
650
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,040
hear a birth date.
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>> Sarah : I wonder what's gonna happen.
652
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.
653
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>> Sarah : So. So it's. It's not. And. And I also understand,
654
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Or I think, I guess, that the. It's. It's not
655
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technically the same kid. it's a kid from a
656
00:37:15,790 --> 00:37:18,830
different parallel universe, and Alex is the
657
00:37:18,830 --> 00:37:22,790
bridge between the two. The two universes.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : two or more. I also. Hold on. I took a screenshot
660
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of this, M. Because I thought it was funny. And I
661
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have, Alex, an acronym. A is for Annie, L is for
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Link, E is for Elvis, their daughter, and X is for
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Xavier.
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>> Will: Oh.
665
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>> Sarah : Because.
666
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : And. And why Screenshot. That is because in this
668
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episode, while all that was happening, especially
669
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at the, end where we're seeing Xavier on the train
670
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and again, get the bloody nose.
671
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>> Will: Yep.
672
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>> Sarah : that's my missing piece right now. And I'm not
673
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hearing anyone speculate too strongly about that,
674
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about how does he fit into this, because he's been
675
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on the west coast for all of this season. And, I
676
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mean, other than the delivering the baby. But he.
677
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And. And I. And I. From what I understand, the
678
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bloody nose is encountering blood that's from the
679
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parallel universe. Like, that's why. So the baby
680
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has Link's blood in her. So. So that's why. But I
681
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didn't see Terry get a bloody nose. So I also
682
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don't know. And I don't know why everybody around,
683
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like all of Link's men, they're not getting bloody
684
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noses all the time.
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>> Will: So remember. Remember, one person did get a bloody
686
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nose. That, Billy.
687
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>> Sarah : Yeah, that's what I. That's what I'm saying. Like,
688
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when Billy saw him. Yeah, he got a bloody nose.
689
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Yeah, but. But. Okay, so only select people are
690
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getting bloody noses.
691
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>> Will: Well, maybe it's because. Well, because. Because
692
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here's the thing. So. Well, at the time when
693
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Xavier, Thinking back to episode two, he was
694
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basically over tenant Nash. Over. Over Memphis.
695
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>> Sarah : Yeah.
696
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>> Will: And Link was also there. So that could be a
697
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connection.
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>> Sarah : Well, no, no, Link wasn't there.
699
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>> Will: No, he was.
700
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>> Sarah : Was. Link was on the train leaving. He had already
701
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left. Annie was very pregnant by the timing.
702
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Xavier arrived. Yeah, so it. It took. It. He. It's
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gonna. It took Link longer to get to Colorado than
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it will Xavier, which is another thing that I'm
705
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trying not to think too hard about.
706
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's a good point. I mean, I
707
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guess you could say that maybe they Their, their
708
00:40:10,940 --> 00:40:14,620
past intersect intercepted on the en route. But.
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>> Sarah : Right, right, it's more to do with the baby.
710
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : And, and her blood that it is with Link being
712
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there because Link was already well gone.
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>> Will: yeah, but Xavier got the nosebleed on the, in the
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plane flying.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. When. Right, when he crashed. Yeah,
716
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like right before he crashed. So he was definitely
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nowhere near Link at that point.
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>> Will: Right. And then there is, there is the, there is
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the, You know, Xavier, you know, when he was there
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with Annie and again, very pregnant, you know,
721
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when he, he had that vision of Link whenever he
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was,
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>> Sarah : Yeah, there, there's the, the visions. Yeah, the
724
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visions that have been not answered to. And so
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somehow Xavier is definitely connected. He ain't
726
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no baby father. So I, I'm still trying to figure
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00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,920
out how he, he's, he's connected because bloody
728
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,920
nose aside. Yeah, there, there's, there's other
729
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,960
things, but I would like to understand this
730
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selectivity that the bloody nose is happening.
731
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. Because I know Dylan, I know Link. You
732
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know, he did have the bloody nose outside because,
733
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you know, because, you know, because Geiger had to
734
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like, help him with the one bloody nose. I think
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at episode one as well. So.
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>> Sarah : Well, maybe, maybe. Maybe at the end of the
737
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season, this season. And this is why we're getting
738
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the third season, Xavier ends up in the alternate
739
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dimension.
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>> Will: Yeah.
741
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>> Sarah : The parallel universe. Like, and, and there, there
742
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is a mix between, between this.
743
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>> Sarah : Because, because I mean, if we're getting a third
744
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season, Xavier and Terry can't be happy for too
745
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long with their white children.
746
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>> Will: Right, right. Yeah. Yeah, well, yeah, because we,
747
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we definitely, you know, we definitely do know
748
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that Alex is, is a machine. More likely than not.
749
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>> Sarah : Yeah.
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>> Will: Yeah. Because it's just a way, you know, and to
751
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your point, I, I love how you, how you have like
752
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basically used that as an. You know, Alex is an
753
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acronym for those key people.
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>> Sarah : Yeah, it's. I didn't, I don't claim doing that. I
755
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,360
am just a messenger here. Somebody else posted
756
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that and I screenshotted it because I thought it
757
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,810
was clever and you know that Annie's baby can't be
758
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named that forever. So if we're gonna call it
759
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Elvis, let's do that. And, and maybe, maybe that's
760
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another reason why the, in next week's episode,
761
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Xavier will end up in the parallel universe
762
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because Link ends up taking Candy's baby, AKA
763
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Elvis.
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>> Will: Yeah, so sweet.
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>> Sarah : And she, he, he has an issue with that. So.
766
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>> Will: And we did. Yeah. And we did see in this episode
767
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too. We did see the. The. The corridor of lights.
768
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so maybe that is, you know, maybe that is.
769
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Whereas, you know, Xavier is getting taken to the
770
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parallel universe by Link because Link looked back
771
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at him. So.
772
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>> Sarah : Yeah.
773
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>> Will: When they had that vision. Yeah.
774
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>> Sarah : Yeah, it's. We're gonna find out answers, get some
775
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more questions, probably next week. well, that
776
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brings us to One Piece, Season two. We have
777
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episodes four, five, six to talk about, to start
778
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us off. Big trouble in little Little Garden. Will,
779
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what was your take on the giants and the
780
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prehistoric island?
781
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>> Will: I really, really enjoyed the giants.
782
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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. They grew on you, for sure. They grew
783
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on everybody.
784
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>> Will: Yeah, they grew on everyone for. Yeah. but, you
785
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know, the fourth episode, to me was really just a.
786
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A. It felt like a bridge episode in a lot of
787
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respects because, you know, we had everything sort
788
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of set up with the first. With the first three.
789
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We're now into the grand line. Of course, we, you
790
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know, of course we get the. We get the, tease by.
791
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We'll get the opening scene with,
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>> Sarah : Miss All Sunday.
793
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>> Will: Yeah, Sunday. Just, you know, we'll give them the
794
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option with the. With the,
795
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>> Sarah : Eternal post office.
796
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : Eternal log posts. Not. Not just any log post, an
798
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internal log post.
799
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>> Will: Yeah, yeah.
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>> Sarah : See, I. I disagree with you with this episode
801
00:44:44,670 --> 00:44:49,610
being a bridge episode, because I. Episodes four
802
00:44:49,770 --> 00:44:54,570
and five, we're all on. We're still on the island.
803
00:44:54,970 --> 00:44:57,850
Like, it's very much like these two episodes
804
00:44:57,850 --> 00:45:00,530
together. I'm so glad we inadvertently watched
805
00:45:00,530 --> 00:45:04,730
them together because they. They just flow into
806
00:45:04,730 --> 00:45:09,050
one giant episode, even to the point where a lot
807
00:45:09,050 --> 00:45:14,090
of the themes, specifically about Usopp the hero,
808
00:45:14,940 --> 00:45:18,100
is all set up in the fourth episode. And you get
809
00:45:18,100 --> 00:45:22,570
the payoff in the fifth. Yeah, yeah, which was
810
00:45:22,570 --> 00:45:26,540
really done well. And he. He kind of, I was like,
811
00:45:26,540 --> 00:45:29,619
okay, somebody heard that I was putting down Yusuf
812
00:45:29,619 --> 00:45:33,740
last week, so they decided to give him a big arc.
813
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>> Will: They gave him a big arc. Indeed. I mean, I guess
814
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the reason why I said it was just a bridge is. I
815
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mean, to your point, I mean, it was. I guess it
816
00:45:40,540 --> 00:45:42,530
was a bridge into this next arc.
817
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>> Sarah : Yeah.
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>> Will: Maybe I didn't articulate it, as well as you put
819
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,030
it, but that really is, Where. Where I was. Where.
820
00:45:49,030 --> 00:45:52,380
Where I was thinking about that as far as, it
821
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being a bridge.
822
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>> Sarah : Yeah, Ed. And we. We have Yusuf, who, in. Is very
823
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afraid of the island, not even getting off the
824
00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:05,100
ship then, because everyone else is exploring it.
825
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:09,000
Ryan riding dinosaurs, killing T. Rexes with a
826
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kick. Okay. Okay, Sanji, I have to. I have to say
827
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Zoro's my guy. And I may be a little biased here,
828
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:24,080
but you did not kill a T. Rex. You did not just
829
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:30,060
drop it. Okay. but. But we. We get. And it's not
830
00:46:30,060 --> 00:46:32,980
just you step. We get a lot of. A lot of different
831
00:46:32,980 --> 00:46:36,180
things going on. The rivalry between Zorro and
832
00:46:36,180 --> 00:46:40,170
Sanji two starts to come up again because of the
833
00:46:40,170 --> 00:46:45,470
pairings that occur. and then also through these
834
00:46:45,470 --> 00:46:49,110
two episodes in particular, you see Vivi the
835
00:46:49,110 --> 00:46:55,830
Princess having a foot still out the door. She
836
00:46:55,830 --> 00:46:59,110
doesn't want to be a burden. She. She doesn't. She
837
00:46:59,110 --> 00:47:02,030
really needs to get back to her kingdom. But she's
838
00:47:02,030 --> 00:47:07,100
also very much. How does. How does Nami put.
839
00:47:07,900 --> 00:47:12,580
Explain, Luffy to her One day you'll just get it.
840
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You'll just.
841
00:47:14,740 --> 00:47:15,300
>> Will: Yep.
842
00:47:15,620 --> 00:47:19,380
>> Sarah : Yeah, you'll just see it. And. And so in these
843
00:47:19,380 --> 00:47:22,300
episodes, you're also finding her very much like
844
00:47:22,300 --> 00:47:24,820
we saw with the core group in the first season.
845
00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:30,060
Not. Not get into Luffy's spell. Because it's not
846
00:47:30,060 --> 00:47:34,260
a spell he's doing, but more just the crew of the
847
00:47:34,260 --> 00:47:41,900
Straw Hats together finding. Finding something in
848
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:44,060
terms of family and friendship that they've been
849
00:47:44,060 --> 00:47:47,220
missing in their previous lives.
850
00:47:47,860 --> 00:47:48,340
>> Will: Yeah.
851
00:47:49,010 --> 00:47:53,320
>> Sarah : and. And. And it's. And it's nice. and it's just
852
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,560
this show. It's just. Again, we said it last week.
853
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:58,360
It's a lot of fun.
854
00:47:59,000 --> 00:47:59,100
>> Will: Yeah.
855
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:02,550
>> Sarah : and there's a lot of action. There's a lot of set
856
00:48:02,550 --> 00:48:05,630
pieces. I mean, we got. Or we got giants fighting.
857
00:48:05,630 --> 00:48:09,270
We got dinosaurs. Luffy of course has to ride a
858
00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:13,710
dinosaur. We of course have to have Sanji cook T
859
00:48:13,710 --> 00:48:18,630
Rex meat. but there's also what's going on with
860
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:24,140
Yusuf in the terms of like how to find bravery and
861
00:48:24,220 --> 00:48:28,380
used up for one and a half seasons is. Has a big
862
00:48:28,380 --> 00:48:31,980
mouth, loves to tell tall tales. Pun intended.
863
00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:37,330
And. And also what I. What I appreciate is. Subtly
864
00:48:37,330 --> 00:48:41,730
occurs in these two episodes. We. We never found.
865
00:48:42,370 --> 00:48:46,050
Up until now, there was never a clear objective
866
00:48:46,370 --> 00:48:49,370
for you sub. It was more like this is my
867
00:48:49,370 --> 00:48:54,760
opportunity to go on an adventure. But unlike the
868
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,240
others who. Luffy obviously wants the one piece
869
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:01,720
and become king of the pirates. And then Zorro
870
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:08,170
with his wanting to defeat I forget his name, and
871
00:49:08,170 --> 00:49:10,130
become the best swordsman around.
872
00:49:10,850 --> 00:49:11,570
>> Will: Mihawk.
873
00:49:11,650 --> 00:49:13,690
>> Sarah : Yeah, Mihawk. You're always gonna have to remind
874
00:49:13,690 --> 00:49:19,320
me of the name. in through the course of the
875
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:24,880
giants and the bravery he. He takes to go up
876
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,490
against vivian. or Ms. Valentine.
877
00:49:28,490 --> 00:49:29,410
>> Will: Ms. Valentine. Yeah.
878
00:49:29,410 --> 00:49:35,570
>> Sarah : And Ms. Valentine. And he. He. He finds a goal and
879
00:49:35,570 --> 00:49:40,740
he wants to go to where is it place. Where is that
880
00:49:40,740 --> 00:49:42,860
place that the giants are. The island.
881
00:49:43,420 --> 00:49:45,540
>> Will: Oh, I'm blanking on the name of the, They talked.
882
00:49:45,540 --> 00:49:46,940
>> Sarah : Elsaba Else.
883
00:49:47,020 --> 00:49:47,500
>> Will: Yeah.
884
00:49:48,620 --> 00:49:52,090
>> Sarah : Yeah. he. He wants to go there. Even though he's
885
00:49:52,090 --> 00:49:54,930
gonna stick out. I don't even think they're gonna
886
00:49:54,930 --> 00:50:00,450
see you just don't get smushed. But I, I like that
887
00:50:00,450 --> 00:50:03,740
because I, It's different than what we've seen
888
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:07,510
others go through in terms of journeys. and it
889
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:09,110
was. And it was very refreshing.
890
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:13,110
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah, it was very refreshing. And I like.
891
00:50:13,190 --> 00:50:15,430
I'm glad you brought up. You said. Because he.
892
00:50:15,590 --> 00:50:19,830
His. His, you know, relationship with the giants.
893
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,680
and you know, whenever. Because whenever we see,
894
00:50:25,290 --> 00:50:29,290
In. In the. When they have the duel and they
895
00:50:29,290 --> 00:50:35,020
determine that, he, you know, that, you know, Dory
896
00:50:35,020 --> 00:50:37,590
was fighting, the,
897
00:50:40,450 --> 00:50:43,770
>> Will: you know, other giant learned that the, you know,
898
00:50:43,770 --> 00:50:48,890
the potions was like poisoned and you know, it
899
00:50:48,890 --> 00:50:51,130
wasn't fault. You know, no honor was happened
900
00:50:51,130 --> 00:50:52,890
there. And then of course, you know, as USOP was
901
00:50:52,890 --> 00:50:55,530
finding the courage and wanted a thing that, you
902
00:50:55,530 --> 00:50:58,210
know, the. Whenever, you know, he goes back to de
903
00:50:58,210 --> 00:51:02,930
Braggy and brogy and. And you know, learns that,
904
00:51:02,930 --> 00:51:04,810
you know, the true bravery is not the absence of
905
00:51:04,810 --> 00:51:07,330
fear, but going in a battle in spite of it. And
906
00:51:07,330 --> 00:51:09,650
then, you know, and just hearing that and to your
907
00:51:09,650 --> 00:51:12,210
point about whenever he, you know, whenever, you
908
00:51:12,210 --> 00:51:14,900
know, he went back to. To rescue his friends, from
909
00:51:14,900 --> 00:51:16,580
Mr. Mr. Mr. Three.
910
00:51:17,060 --> 00:51:17,620
>> Sarah : Yeah.
911
00:51:17,940 --> 00:51:21,860
>> Will: And. And you know, and he's, you know, taking on
912
00:51:21,860 --> 00:51:25,400
Ms. Valentine as well. And also number five. I, I
913
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,520
just. It was a nice character arc and grow. Growth
914
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,480
of Usopp and to your. And you're right, it did
915
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,880
give him a purpose because before, you know, he
916
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,720
did feel that he was just, you know, he was part
917
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:44,720
of the, you know, part of the crew. And, and, but,
918
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:47,360
you know, but we, but we. But we do still see
919
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:52,730
elements of his. His cautiousness in the. In the
920
00:51:52,730 --> 00:51:55,170
sixth episode whenever they do get to the island
921
00:51:55,170 --> 00:51:55,730
of the Drum.
922
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:56,560
>> Sarah : yeah.
923
00:51:56,720 --> 00:51:59,320
>> Will: Yeah. So even though he's. He's. He's shown
924
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,800
growth, he's still at his core a very cautious
925
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:02,160
person.
926
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:10,300
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. Ms. Golden Week. So again in episode
927
00:52:10,300 --> 00:52:13,580
four, we start to see. And we hear this laughter
928
00:52:13,580 --> 00:52:16,310
like a childlike. And we start to see these
929
00:52:16,310 --> 00:52:17,150
tattoos.
930
00:52:17,470 --> 00:52:18,030
>> Will: Yeah.
931
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>> Sarah : And so what I found very interesting is I. I
932
00:52:24,670 --> 00:52:26,910
started to, in the. During the fifth episode,
933
00:52:27,150 --> 00:52:29,190
write down notes because I was like, oh, that's
934
00:52:29,190 --> 00:52:29,790
interesting.
935
00:52:30,190 --> 00:52:30,670
>> Will: Yeah.
936
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>> Sarah : I. And this was before they really delve into her
937
00:52:35,140 --> 00:52:39,420
powers because I was like, wow. It's. It's like
938
00:52:39,420 --> 00:52:43,930
whatever they're using gives, the person the exact
939
00:52:43,930 --> 00:52:44,810
opposite.
940
00:52:45,290 --> 00:52:45,770
>> Will: Yeah.
941
00:52:46,010 --> 00:52:49,450
>> Sarah : Like, behavior of who they are. Because Luffy's
942
00:52:49,770 --> 00:52:54,010
never been that sad before. That we've seen.
943
00:52:54,490 --> 00:52:59,010
Never. And Nami has never not been a person of
944
00:52:59,010 --> 00:52:59,370
action.
945
00:53:00,170 --> 00:53:00,570
>> Will: Right.
946
00:53:00,650 --> 00:53:07,070
>> Sarah : So, so. And then Zorro is ultra serious. So when
947
00:53:07,070 --> 00:53:09,390
they explained the color palette and how the
948
00:53:09,470 --> 00:53:11,750
emotions work and everything, I was like, okay,
949
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:15,230
that makes. That makes sense. But I think it was
950
00:53:15,230 --> 00:53:18,550
very smart of what colors got applied to what
951
00:53:18,550 --> 00:53:19,310
characters.
952
00:53:19,630 --> 00:53:19,980
>> Will: Yes.
953
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,720
>> Sarah : considering who we know those characters to be and
954
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:29,660
to really show the, the opposite emotion and the
955
00:53:29,660 --> 00:53:34,180
odd behavior very clearly and vividly. that. That
956
00:53:34,180 --> 00:53:37,620
was done well. And it was also. It was arguably
957
00:53:39,300 --> 00:53:42,060
Golden Week. And Mr. Five are two of the creepiest
958
00:53:42,060 --> 00:53:44,860
villains we've had so far in terms of the baroque
959
00:53:44,860 --> 00:53:48,740
works. Just because I know Ms. Holiday Sunday in
960
00:53:48,740 --> 00:53:52,420
her arms, but still, I mean, House of Wax, anyone?
961
00:53:53,060 --> 00:53:53,620
>> Will: And then.
962
00:53:53,860 --> 00:53:58,910
>> Sarah : And then nothing is creepier for some reason. Then
963
00:53:59,390 --> 00:54:02,390
when you can't see the person and you hear this
964
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:05,070
laughter and it is childlike, but it's a little
965
00:54:05,070 --> 00:54:06,110
sinister because.
966
00:54:06,350 --> 00:54:06,830
>> Will: Yeah.
967
00:54:06,900 --> 00:54:10,580
>> Will: Oh, yeah, yeah. In my notes, I did put that. I
968
00:54:10,580 --> 00:54:13,139
did. I was like, she freaked the hell out of me.
969
00:54:14,900 --> 00:54:18,260
>> Sarah : She calls. She calls him Dolly. And you're like,
970
00:54:18,260 --> 00:54:22,500
no, no, no, no, no. Let's not. Let's not do that.
971
00:54:22,820 --> 00:54:26,330
Can we not turn this into a horror show?
972
00:54:26,730 --> 00:54:29,130
>> Will: Yeah, yeah. I was think, yeah, whenever it's like,
973
00:54:29,130 --> 00:54:31,670
she was called Luffy Dolly, I think that that.
974
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:35,030
That was. What was the whole. The creep factor for
975
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:38,700
me. and I was just wondering, like, you know, to
976
00:54:38,700 --> 00:54:43,140
your point, like, whenever we saw her, you know,
977
00:54:44,260 --> 00:54:48,060
break Luffy down as far as the. The hopelessness
978
00:54:48,060 --> 00:54:50,620
and because he's the most optimistic, you know,
979
00:54:50,620 --> 00:54:53,820
fearless, you know, and all, but what. She's
980
00:54:53,820 --> 00:54:55,780
calling him Dolly. And then whenever she, like,
981
00:54:55,780 --> 00:55:00,340
you know, had him walk out to sea. Yeah, it was so
982
00:55:00,340 --> 00:55:02,620
creepy. And you know, and credit to Usopp, you
983
00:55:02,620 --> 00:55:04,420
know, he just, you know, Johnny on the spot, he
984
00:55:04,420 --> 00:55:07,740
just knew somehow he just has that innate sense to
985
00:55:07,740 --> 00:55:12,050
like, be there for Luffy. but that whole sequence
986
00:55:12,050 --> 00:55:14,610
there was just. Yeah, that, you know, that was
987
00:55:14,610 --> 00:55:17,830
where I was like, man, this show, they can. They.
988
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:20,470
They can do humor, they can do. They can do
989
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:25,790
horror. And. And really, really just the range of
990
00:55:25,790 --> 00:55:28,590
this show, I think, is what makes it work so, so
991
00:55:28,590 --> 00:55:31,870
well. And again, we're not folks who have read the
992
00:55:31,870 --> 00:55:36,630
manga or watch the anime 1000 plus chapters, but,
993
00:55:36,790 --> 00:55:38,750
you know, for live action folks, this is what
994
00:55:38,750 --> 00:55:41,030
draws Me in and.
995
00:55:41,110 --> 00:55:43,750
>> Sarah : And something else. I mean we talked about it a
996
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:48,290
little bit last week too with M. All the numbers,
997
00:55:48,290 --> 00:55:51,370
all the days of weeks. I'm not getting tired.
998
00:55:51,450 --> 00:55:57,224
Because we got introduced to so many Mr. And Mrs.
999
00:55:57,316 --> 00:56:00,130
In these two episodes alone. We haven't even gone
1000
00:56:00,130 --> 00:56:03,170
into the third episode. But I mean we get
1001
00:56:03,170 --> 00:56:07,700
introduced to Ms. Friday and Mr. 13. Yeah.
1002
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:08,660
>> Will: Yeah.
1003
00:56:08,660 --> 00:56:14,160
>> Sarah : So I The. They. They are very clear about the
1004
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:19,760
Baroque Rourkes and. And they're very good episode
1005
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:20,320
villains.
1006
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:21,440
>> Will: Yeah.
1007
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,280
>> Sarah : Granted we have our main ones, the Ms. All. All
1008
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,800
Sunday, Ms. Valentine, Mr. Fine. Those are our
1009
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,640
carry through. But it also feels like a bigger
1010
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,720
world because before you know it, you'll be
1011
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:42,970
introduced to Miss Six, Mr. Sixteen and Miss Never
1012
00:56:42,970 --> 00:56:43,370
Sunday.
1013
00:56:45,610 --> 00:56:47,530
>> Will: We got. Yeah. Yeah. We got.
1014
00:56:47,530 --> 00:56:48,010
>> Sarah : Yeah.
1015
00:56:48,090 --> 00:56:48,490
>> Will: Yeah.
1016
00:56:48,490 --> 00:56:52,570
>> Sarah : So it's. But I also like. So we have these two
1017
00:56:52,570 --> 00:56:56,250
episodes that are very much on trend with where we
1018
00:56:56,250 --> 00:57:00,530
have been for the season. And then to go into Nami
1019
00:57:00,530 --> 00:57:04,730
Dearest to me, this felt like a little bit of a
1020
00:57:04,730 --> 00:57:06,570
different episode. I don't know if it's a bridge
1021
00:57:06,570 --> 00:57:08,760
episode because I don't know what episode seven
1022
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,540
will be like. However, in here there's a lot more
1023
00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:15,660
focus. There's a lot less focus on baroque works
1024
00:57:15,660 --> 00:57:18,140
even though we still see them because of what
1025
00:57:18,140 --> 00:57:22,960
happens with Smoker. but we are more focused on
1026
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:29,360
the. Some of the international. Some of the world
1027
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,700
politics that goes ties back to. To Vivi and
1028
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:37,860
getting her back home. And where we learn more
1029
00:57:37,860 --> 00:57:42,650
about this Drum island as well as the leader, the
1030
00:57:42,650 --> 00:57:48,860
bastard king of it, if you will. Ms. Wolpall who's
1031
00:57:48,860 --> 00:57:54,200
just an And I. How dare. Miss all Day, Miss All
1032
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:57,440
Sunday. Give him direct Devil Fruit when he's got
1033
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,000
that jaw.
1034
00:58:00,410 --> 00:58:03,410
>> Will: Yeah. And we don't know. Yeah. And as of now, we
1035
00:58:03,410 --> 00:58:05,890
don't know what his. What the power in that Devil
1036
00:58:05,890 --> 00:58:06,570
Fruit was.
1037
00:58:06,570 --> 00:58:09,930
>> Sarah : I mean I think he's just gonna be all steel. He's
1038
00:58:09,930 --> 00:58:14,970
gonna be all. I don't know. It's gonna be weird
1039
00:58:14,970 --> 00:58:19,130
and it's gonna be annoying. And I'm. I'm sure
1040
00:58:19,290 --> 00:58:22,250
it's. It's. It's gonna be something very
1041
00:58:23,210 --> 00:58:27,210
adversarial. Not necessary for Luffy, but more for
1042
00:58:27,210 --> 00:58:33,300
Vivi. be. Because we. We get a Vivi flashback. We
1043
00:58:33,300 --> 00:58:38,720
meet her father. and. And we see more about her
1044
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:47,570
own, anger towards Waffle for just being an. Who
1045
00:58:47,570 --> 00:58:48,330
slaps a child.
1046
00:58:48,730 --> 00:58:52,130
>> Will: You know, Slaps a child. We see. We see. And I do
1047
00:58:52,130 --> 00:58:55,260
like how they tied in. Ingraham.
1048
00:58:55,580 --> 00:58:55,980
>> Sarah : Yeah.
1049
00:58:55,980 --> 00:59:00,300
>> Will: In this episode too. And, you know, and so I guess
1050
00:59:01,100 --> 00:59:03,300
even though it was a little bit of a diver, you
1051
00:59:03,300 --> 00:59:05,900
know, a little moving into the next arc with,
1052
00:59:06,030 --> 00:59:09,590
this, it was a nice. I, I, I'm, this was one of
1053
00:59:09,590 --> 00:59:11,030
those things, like you said earlier, where I'm
1054
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:12,830
glad that we watched these three together because
1055
00:59:12,830 --> 00:59:19,820
it was a nice, call back to her, encounter on,
1056
00:59:20,430 --> 00:59:23,070
with the giants whenever, you know, they burned
1057
00:59:23,230 --> 00:59:26,430
the funeral pyre of the handkerchief.
1058
00:59:26,670 --> 00:59:31,800
>> Sarah : Yep. so, yeah, so, yeah, dealing with her grief.
1059
00:59:33,740 --> 00:59:37,420
because that, that Ingram. We, we only met for one
1060
00:59:37,420 --> 00:59:41,300
episode, but they had known each other before that
1061
00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:45,940
episode, and so we. That bond definitely did need
1062
00:59:45,940 --> 00:59:49,670
to be shown. I don't think you can have a VV
1063
00:59:49,670 --> 00:59:53,060
flashback without Ingram being there, based on how
1064
00:59:53,060 --> 00:59:58,900
close they were. And, and I. Also, this episode,
1065
00:59:58,900 --> 01:00:01,380
it's not that we don't meet people, because again,
1066
01:00:01,460 --> 01:00:04,180
we just listed a few and there's a few more
1067
01:00:04,180 --> 01:00:07,620
because what the heck is Katie Seagal doing here?
1068
01:00:10,260 --> 01:00:10,660
>> Will: I.
1069
01:00:10,740 --> 01:00:13,700
>> Sarah : Now, I did get. I was aware of this cast.
1070
01:00:13,700 --> 01:00:16,260
>> Will: Yeah, it was. Yeah, this was. Yeah, I know, folks.
1071
01:00:16,260 --> 01:00:18,900
I think either. I know a lot of people were
1072
01:00:19,140 --> 01:00:21,660
angling. We was really hoping Jamie Lee Curtis
1073
01:00:21,660 --> 01:00:24,340
was. I think, I think it was a big fan casting for
1074
01:00:24,340 --> 01:00:26,460
her. Maybe Jamie Lee was, like, pushing for this
1075
01:00:26,460 --> 01:00:28,660
role. But. Yeah, but I did know Katie Cycle was
1076
01:00:28,660 --> 01:00:30,690
going to, be in this. I think I even posted about
1077
01:00:30,690 --> 01:00:33,290
it on our socials that she was cast in the show.
1078
01:00:33,530 --> 01:00:37,900
>> Sarah : Jamie Lee is on, Scarpetta. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So
1079
01:00:37,900 --> 01:00:41,560
she might have been a bit busy. granted, Kitty
1080
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,880
Seagal is also. Well, no, we didn't see her last
1081
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:49,210
season. anyways, but we, we see Doctorina, as, as
1082
01:00:49,210 --> 01:00:52,610
we meet the witch who turns out not to be a witch.
1083
01:00:52,850 --> 01:00:55,570
And more importantly, we finally meet Chopper.
1084
01:00:55,650 --> 01:00:58,170
I've heard whisperings of Chopper. I knew nothing
1085
01:00:58,170 --> 01:01:00,050
about it before this episode, but he's.
1086
01:01:00,050 --> 01:01:00,570
>> Will: Me neither.
1087
01:01:00,570 --> 01:01:05,490
>> Sarah : They are delightful, and I am very much interested
1088
01:01:05,490 --> 01:01:08,930
in them becoming a straw hat. Ah. And so I am on
1089
01:01:08,930 --> 01:01:16,540
board with that. and my, my, My other note was the
1090
01:01:16,540 --> 01:01:19,060
nudity that was occurring throughout these
1091
01:01:19,060 --> 01:01:22,940
episodes. There was, There was skin. There was
1092
01:01:22,940 --> 01:01:23,780
some skin.
1093
01:01:23,940 --> 01:01:30,570
>> Will: Sh. There's a lot of, you know, I, I, I, Yeah, you
1094
01:01:30,570 --> 01:01:35,690
know, I was, I was impressed with Luffy. Luffy's
1095
01:01:35,690 --> 01:01:39,130
kind of cut. Yeah, yeah, yep.
1096
01:01:39,130 --> 01:01:42,410
>> Sarah : And I've seen, I've seen the videos, but. Yep,
1097
01:01:42,410 --> 01:01:48,010
yep, yep, yep. So, so m. Oh. The other thing we
1098
01:01:48,170 --> 01:01:51,930
probably will need to touch on. Touch on is,
1099
01:01:54,060 --> 01:01:58,580
Smoker, Smoker and Tushagi, because they are also
1100
01:01:59,220 --> 01:02:03,380
very Much like Garb in the first season, they are.
1101
01:02:04,660 --> 01:02:07,900
We, we check in on them and they're, they're
1102
01:02:07,900 --> 01:02:11,220
moving along in their own endeavor that will
1103
01:02:11,220 --> 01:02:14,300
inevitably intersect with this re. Intersect with
1104
01:02:14,300 --> 01:02:18,220
the Straw Hats as they're trying to find a Baroque
1105
01:02:18,220 --> 01:02:24,470
works. And so they go to a communications, Isle of
1106
01:02:24,470 --> 01:02:27,910
Renaissance, a communications out past. And that's
1107
01:02:27,910 --> 01:02:30,750
where they encounter Ms. M. Thursday and Mr. 11,
1108
01:02:31,310 --> 01:02:34,670
who Mr. 11 has a very important sword. It's like,
1109
01:02:34,670 --> 01:02:39,870
well, that's inevitable that Tashagi meets him. So
1110
01:02:39,950 --> 01:02:45,300
I, I, I think it makes sense that we're getting
1111
01:02:45,700 --> 01:02:49,870
some Smoker into Shaggy this season and not much,
1112
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:54,560
so much Garb, and I'm always blanking. There's
1113
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,200
names that I feel like are just wiped out of my
1114
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,020
mind. who's Luffy's old friend?
1115
01:03:00,180 --> 01:03:01,020
>> Will: Oh yeah. Kobe.
1116
01:03:01,020 --> 01:03:01,940
>> Sarah : Yeah, Kobe.
1117
01:03:02,260 --> 01:03:02,740
>> Will: Yeah.
1118
01:03:02,830 --> 01:03:08,190
>> Sarah : because if we had them both, I could, I feel like
1119
01:03:08,430 --> 01:03:11,120
we would have been tired. or it would, we would
1120
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:15,800
have noticed some redundancies where yes, they're
1121
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,680
very similar in terms of what happened with Kobe
1122
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,040
in the first season. And now we're seeing like
1123
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:26,360
Smoker and Tashagi and those rules. But it's also
1124
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:31,080
refreshing because Smoker is definitely not Garb
1125
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:37,560
and Tashagi is more of a counterpoint to Zorro
1126
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:45,170
than than Luffy. So. Yeah, yeah. So I, I, I, I
1127
01:03:45,170 --> 01:03:47,610
think checking in with the Marines is very
1128
01:03:47,610 --> 01:03:52,540
important. but I also am glad that we are, we've
1129
01:03:52,540 --> 01:03:56,500
been focusing more on some of our new protagonists
1130
01:03:56,580 --> 01:04:01,700
such as Vivi, while also allowing our main group,
1131
01:04:02,260 --> 01:04:06,530
like a us up to, to stand up and get some, get
1132
01:04:06,530 --> 01:04:11,760
some center light if you will, on their, on their
1133
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:13,040
individual journey.
1134
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,280
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, I, I completely agree. And you know,
1135
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,000
and the other characters that they, they did
1136
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,760
introduced in this episode, you know, as we, as we
1137
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,800
flex to your point about fleshing out the, the
1138
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,280
world, you know, we do also meet Dalton and he was
1139
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:30,200
also there in the past with when, when, when the
1140
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,100
king, struck, Vivi.
1141
01:04:32,260 --> 01:04:32,700
>> Sarah : Yep.
1142
01:04:32,700 --> 01:04:37,180
>> Will: And, and, and, and so, you know, so makes, you
1143
01:04:37,180 --> 01:04:41,660
know, so you know, clearly he, he may or may not
1144
01:04:41,660 --> 01:04:44,430
have recognized her whenever, they, they were
1145
01:04:44,430 --> 01:04:47,600
there in the village. but you know, it definitely
1146
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,560
again brings all, you know, you know, with. Given
1147
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:56,770
that drum Allen now has is a shell of what it was
1148
01:04:56,770 --> 01:04:58,530
because the whole reason why they went there was
1149
01:04:58,530 --> 01:05:00,250
because, you know, they had this reputation for
1150
01:05:00,250 --> 01:05:03,130
all the doctors and, and we, and we knew that, you
1151
01:05:03,130 --> 01:05:05,890
know, Nami was sick from, you know, getting bit by
1152
01:05:05,890 --> 01:05:10,610
the by the tick. but you know. You know, so, you
1153
01:05:10,610 --> 01:05:13,090
know, it brings all the connectivities of this
1154
01:05:13,090 --> 01:05:17,330
world, you know, together. and, and and and and
1155
01:05:18,780 --> 01:05:21,490
and know again for. For us live action folks who
1156
01:05:21,490 --> 01:05:25,010
don't. Who aren't familiar with all the lore, it,
1157
01:05:26,130 --> 01:05:28,970
you know, it sets the table for like things that
1158
01:05:28,970 --> 01:05:34,170
we see to. To. To come in the. As we. As we
1159
01:05:34,170 --> 01:05:36,410
progress in these. These last two episodes. And
1160
01:05:36,410 --> 01:05:39,180
then, and then of course as we. We do know that
1161
01:05:39,180 --> 01:05:41,540
there are in the process of filming season three
1162
01:05:41,540 --> 01:05:44,020
right now. So hopefully it won't be another. It
1163
01:05:44,020 --> 01:05:45,700
won't be a two and a half year break between
1164
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,160
between seasons, which will be. Which will be
1165
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:48,440
great.
1166
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,400
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully. Fingers crossed.
1167
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,960
>> Will: Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. Yeah. Another
1168
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,900
thing too, you know, that, that really, you know,
1169
01:06:00,460 --> 01:06:02,940
a through line throughout this is, you know, how.
1170
01:06:03,580 --> 01:06:06,540
How the. The Straw Hats really have, you know,
1171
01:06:06,540 --> 01:06:08,900
truly have become a found f family. And also just
1172
01:06:08,900 --> 01:06:11,020
Luffy growing into as well as Captain and just
1173
01:06:11,020 --> 01:06:14,790
like, you know, in every aspect of it, like, you
1174
01:06:14,790 --> 01:06:17,270
know, where he's, you know, literally like we're
1175
01:06:17,270 --> 01:06:19,310
gonna climb. I'm m. Climb this mountain literally
1176
01:06:19,310 --> 01:06:24,060
to like, you know, save. Save Nami. and that was,
1177
01:06:24,060 --> 01:06:28,060
you know, that and just this. And to see, you
1178
01:06:28,060 --> 01:06:31,980
know, just the doggedness especially whenever, you
1179
01:06:31,980 --> 01:06:34,460
know, after what we, you know, after we saw what
1180
01:06:34,460 --> 01:06:36,770
he went through with Ms. Golden Work, you know,
1181
01:06:36,770 --> 01:06:40,890
the Luffy, it was. It was a nice return, you know,
1182
01:06:40,890 --> 01:06:44,490
story wise just to remind us of who Luffy is and,
1183
01:06:44,730 --> 01:06:47,050
and all that, you know, movement moving on from,
1184
01:06:47,550 --> 01:06:50,530
from the island episodes that we had prior. So I
1185
01:06:50,530 --> 01:06:52,490
thought that was just, you know, again, just you
1186
01:06:52,490 --> 01:06:56,580
know, the leadership of Luffy and and also I
1187
01:06:56,580 --> 01:06:59,380
think, you know, the you know, Vivi and others
1188
01:06:59,380 --> 01:07:02,350
just trying to help teach him how to become a
1189
01:07:02,350 --> 01:07:06,439
better, a better leader for, for the Straw Hats.
1190
01:07:08,359 --> 01:07:12,069
>> Sarah : Yeah, definitely. Sanji also played a big role in
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going up that hill too and, and put a lot on the
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line as well. And Zorro was told to stay. He did
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not like that.
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>> Will: He did not like that one bit.
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>> Sarah : yeah, so. But they all couldn't go up the hill,
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that is for sure.
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>> Will: Yeah, but. But he did have that very key. I think
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he did have a very key scene there between. With.
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With Dalton. and you know, and as far as who's
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going to like, you know, as far as continuity of
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leadership and who's, you know, who's going to
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help protect the Drum Allen as they. As they move
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forward once they you know, take, you know, once
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they take over from the king. So. So, you know, so
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even though he didn't, he wasn't able to go up
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that hill, I think, you know, I think that
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conversation with Dalton is definitely going to
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come play a big role as far as. That's with. With
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the story moving forward. Well, as far as
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building. As far as building allies, you know,
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>> Sarah : for, for the Straw Hats, I, I, don't. I don't
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think they have a problem with building allies. I,
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I think that that moment sticks out because I
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think it says more about Zorro than it does Dalton
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and what's going on with Zorro in terms of his
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role as a team or role on. As part of the crew
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and, and his own growth and journey. Because, I
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mean, the line is my name. My aim is not to lead
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these people, only to be a shield. And then I
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stupidly did not write down what Zorro's response
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to it, but I feel like it was something along the
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lines of sometimes. Sometimes it doesn't matter.
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Yeah.
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>> Will: Yeah.
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>> Sarah : What they need. So. And. And I just. I. I think
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that at the end of the day, we've seen over the
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last few episodes this season, Zorro try to take.
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Try to step up, but he's not. He's not perfect.
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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.
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>> Sarah : And. And he, He. He gets lost very easily. He's
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very bad with navigation. So. So, maybe. Maybe
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it's not so much him needing to be a lead for the
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star, a leader for the Straw Hats, because they
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have one, but him learning that there is still a
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way to not only be a shield and to also, like, be
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utilized, more than you currently feel you are or,
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or see your potential. But, yeah, all right, well,
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I think I've forgotten enough names for tonight,
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and, I think we've talked a lot about these shows
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as well as Paradise. and so on that note, Will,
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why don't you tell our listeners where they can
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find you?
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>> Will: Yes, you can find me on all the socials at, Will
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and Polk W I L L M P O
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>> Sarah : L K. And you can find me there, too, at S.J.
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