Paradise S2 Ep 6 Breakdown and One Piece S2 Eps 1-3 Reaction

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>> Will: Foreign.

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>> Sarah : This is Scene N nerd. I'm your host, Sarah

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Belmont, and with me as always, is our Mr.

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Producer, Will Paul. How are you doing tonight,

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Will?

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>> Will: Doing very well, Sarah. Looking forward to talking

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some paradise and kicking off one piece tonight.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. We're back on the ship. The Mary.

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>> Will: Yes, we are. Yes we are. We're back on the Mary.

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And speaking of Mary, we had some merry news and

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paradise, land today with season three getting

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officially confirmed. So. Great. I love Sterling's

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way he always like, you know, introd. Introduces

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the next. Next season. I guess he was taking a

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little, Little play from I think it was episode

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four or five of this season where link shows up.

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It was like showing all the size of the bunker.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. but before we get to that,

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Oscars for last night or two nights ago.

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>> Will: Two nights ago. Yeah, yeah. You know, I, I really

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don't have much to say. I mean about the Oscars.

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it, You know, congratulations to the winners.

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Autumn. The winners. And Well, I mean I was just

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going to point out like Autumn, I mean as far as

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you know, the historic nature of her win being the

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first woman and also woman of color to win best

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cinematographer for. For Sinners.

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>> Sarah : But that moment with your son is going viral.

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Viral. It's going so viral. And I don't remember.

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I remember I've only watched Sinners one time, but

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when we talked about it, I, ah, I made the obvious

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claim like without a doubt in my mind. I was like,

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Ludwig's gonna get another Oscar.

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>> Will: Yep.

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>> Sarah : It was a shoe in. And he might get another one

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next year because he's doing the Odyssey, so.

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>> Will: The Odyssey. He's also. Is he also score. Let's

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see. He doesn't score Dune, does he? I'm trying to

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remember.

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>> Sarah : No, no, no, no.

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>> Will: that's a Han Zimmer.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, that's. That's a Hans Zimmer score. But, but

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I, I kept trying to remember if I had a. I ah,

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know I liked. Really enjoyed the cinematography in

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Simmers.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : So I think I might have offhandedly said I could

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also see it getting an award for that. But I also

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may be doing revisionist history. So. So we'll

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see. But, but yeah, they had a. They had a decent

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night. it was, I think this year out of.

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Especially in the past few years, it felt more

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competitive.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, it felt like there was a lot more neck and

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neck races. Now granted, I have not seen this

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movie. I, But based on the few clips that I've

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seen that have gone viral since the awards, I'm

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pretty sure if I had watched all of these movies,

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I would have been rooting for Hamnet. I, I'm, I'm,

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I'm, I'm leaning towards that one, just knowing my

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taste and everything. but Jesse Buckley did, get

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her award along with, like, somebody put it up.

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She, she won like 40 different awards this season.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : For, for that one role. So she was, she was the

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only one who was like. Her and Ludwig were like

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shoe ins.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, and also Shoe Ends

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was, I think Ryan Coogler for best, original

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screenplay percentage.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The, the, the

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original screenplay and then the adapted with pta.

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He got, he got his flowers, certainly. which. Am I

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correct? it's the first time.

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>> Will: Yep.

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>> Sarah : A director has taken screenplay, director and,

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best pictures, so.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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>> Sarah : It was also Shout out to him.

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>> Will: Yeah. Shout out to pta. I mean, it was his, I

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think he'd been nominated 13 times before for

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director, or something like that. So. yeah. So.

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Or, or maybe just 13 total nominations period.

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But. Yeah, you finally, you finally broke through.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. And then the K Pop Demon Hunters took

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home two trophies. so best animated film and then

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golden. and they had a very, golden performance.

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>> Will: They did, but nothing. Yeah. But the juke joint

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was the winner of the night as far as

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performances. with S. And Misty M. Copeland coming

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back from retire out of retirement after hip

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surgery, no less. And, and did that performance.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. There, there's so many, so much commentary

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on. Yeah. And everything.

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>> Will: I, I, Yeah, I, you know, there's plenty of

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commentary out there. I gave, I said my piece as

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far as 11 battle at centers last week, so I don't

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really, I don't really have much more to say about

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it.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. All right, well, that brings us to Paradise,

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Season 2, Episode 6, Jane, Xavier and Gary set the

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plan in motion. Back in paradise, Sinatra takes

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action. Okay, who's writing the IMDb summaries?

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Because that Xavier and Gary were like five

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minutes of this episode.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : I'm gonna be honest because I, I don't have too

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many thoughts about this episode. The, the

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thoughts that I do have, that I've been circling

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back on, are mainly. I know that I have been

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asking for a Jane episode since season one.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : And we got it. And I am disappointed. This did not

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work for me.

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>> Will: Oh. At all.

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>> Sarah : so, so that is just to kind of set my mood. About

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this. I, I don't know. It just. I. The whole,

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like. We can start with Jane and the flashbacks.

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Yeah, okay. They're losing me with the time stuff.

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So the fact that we start immediately with

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somebody sending a message about Jane and her

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being a killer. But if there's. If you get a

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message to her, then she will, She will. She can

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be stopped.

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>> Will: See, I wanna. Yeah, let's start. I'm glad you

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started there because I, I, you know, whenever you

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look at when, when the Circuit City God delivers

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the message, he was. I don't think he was trying

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to tell it to his m. To the mother. He was talking

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to. Talking to Jane, the baby. Yeah. And I, I

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think that she. But the she that he's talking

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about isn't Jane. I think that she is Sinatra.

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I'm. I'm dying on that hill that you, know, as

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soon as I, I saw that, I was just like, I put in

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my notes, I'm going to die on this hill. That the

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villain of this. Of the story is Sinatra. I know

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you and I have different opinions on that, but

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when I get the opportunity to like, put it out

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there, I do.

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>> Sarah : That is, that is very fair and very true. I've

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never disagreed that Sinatra is not a villain.

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I've just. You tend to paint her as like the most

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horrible person to have ever been on screen. And

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I'm like. I'm like, I don't know. I don't know.

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There's been some pretty messed up people on the

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screen. I mean, there was another Oscar winner who

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took home a trophy and was a villain of that

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story. So I, I don't think she's the worst.

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>> Will: No, I'm not saying the worst. I. I am keeping it.

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I am keeping it to this show. Not. Not. Not ever.

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Not ever.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. So, Yeah, so that's how they start off

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the flashbacks. but. But to get back to my point,

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the, the explanation for Jane's motivation is what

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really bothered me because her mom hears that. And

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so that taints along with, I think, a bunch of

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other stuff, her whole viewpoint of motherhood and

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is an awful mother to Jane. Or so we see. Like, I

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also feel as though we just didn't get a full

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story. We got bits and pieces. Because they needed

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to move things along in present day. And they

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couldn't spend as much time in the flashbacks as I

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think we needed because it jumps from born to

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almost attempted murder and then child abuse, then

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flashback 10 years later, and then she's in the

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CIA and going through that and that just boring.

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>> Will: it wasn't boring. I, yeah, we're gonna, yeah, this

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is, this is gonna be fun tonight.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. So, so it just, it. And, and then I'm a

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killer. Okay. You need to be pointed. I don't

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know, but Will wants to talk and say. Say what?

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You. About everything. No, I'm, I'm literally

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done.

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>> Will: Well, I mean, I, I, I, I do. I, I get where you're

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coming from as far as the, the, the time. I mean,

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I will say I think it is a fair, it is a fair

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critique that there were a lot of this episode was

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doing a lot this week because it, it was, we were,

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we, we did get the backstory as far as Jane, how

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she got to be. Of course, you know, we, we,

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Robinson finding her CIA file heavily redacted,

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and even the parts that were visible on screen

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were very hard to see. but I, I think it, you

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know, there are a couple things, you know, that

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for one, just, you know, gives Dick and Jane a

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whole nother. A whole nother meaning, as far as,

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you know, with what transpired in this episode.

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But I really, the, the, the story with Stacy and

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sort of becoming that surrogate mother, I mean, I

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think, or a, surrogate parent figure. Because even

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though it, I agree with you that, you know, the

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framing we had of Jane at the beginning was, you

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know, you know, her mother, it seems that, you

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know, you know, whenever the you know, when the

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nurse is like, you know, you have someone coming,

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sweetie, sweetheart, or whatever. I mean, it seems

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that Jane's mother, it was a, seems to be an

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unplanned pregnancy maybe, or, or it is tied to

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some of the larger time shenanigans. you know, her

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mom did not, they did not have a bond at all. And,

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and you know, she did have the imaginary friend

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clingy, which, definitely, you know, was, I guess

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her. Jane's defense mechanism or whatever to help

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navigate her already messed up childhood and

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really gets into the question of like, nature. To

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me, it got into the question of nature of being

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nurture. Like, for example, if, if Jane's mother

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was more nurturing, could she have like, corrected

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the clear sociopathic tendencies that are, that

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are sort of innate to Jane as, as a person. So,

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so, you know, so whenever she does get to the CIA

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training with, with Stacy Thomas and you know, and

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you know, teaching her how the whole methods as

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far as the yoga, you know, and how to be still, I

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really feel like. And also, you know, why Stacy

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chose her, which is to be special, you know,

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because she sees something special in Jane. It.

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All those framing elements really makes. Makes

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sense for like why she gravitates later in. On in

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the bunker, to Sinatra. Now do we get store. Did

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we get the backstory for like how she and Sinatra

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met and all that kind of stuff? No. And, and so,

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you know, unlike what we got earlier this season

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with Billy, where we did get how Sinatra and Billy

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got hooked up. What. I would have liked to have

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seen that. Yeah, I would have. But. But I maybe,

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you know, but at the same time there's still some,

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maybe some more gaps to fill a story to tell

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there. So I'm going to reserve judgment on that

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until, you know, the season ends or, or, or

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whenever we see more context for their meeting in

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the third season. So, you know, so I. So to me it

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was like really, really cool how they used all

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those elements just to like help shape the, the

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relationship between, that, that Jane builds

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between not only Stacy, but then later. Later.

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Sinatra.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, she has mommy issues.

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>> Will: Yeah, totally. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. I don't, I don't want to explore, like

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I don't need. Tell me how Sinatra and Jane meet

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because I feel like that's kind of implied based

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on how we know Billy and Sinatra meet. I just, I

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wanted more. I wanted a more dynamic. I don't

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know, I'm not using the right words today. I

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wanted a more 3D motivation, three dimensional

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motivation. I felt like this was very one note

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mommy issues and then the. I think they clouded

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then what you said about the nature versus nurture

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with the whole message from the future. Because

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it's just, it's ah. I don't know, it just gets a

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bit weird and kind of. I don't like it. and, and I

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also, I mean another reason why, like, if you're

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gonna start off bringing up Sinatra, then I will

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bring up my least favorite character of the show,

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Thorabi. because in present day, I also don't like

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the fact that we have a standoff between Jane and

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Tarabi. And I'm like, what? Why? How is Jane, who

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we just spent so much time with and I'm a killer,

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I'm a killer, blah, blah, blah. And then it's okay

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if Robbie's going to come after. She knows exactly

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who Jane is supposedly and what Jane has done so

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she feels safe to go by herself and confront Jane.

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I don't buy that because I don't. I don't buy

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that. Because unless she knows, like, the only way

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Jane will actually do something is if Sinatra is

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in danger. So granted, Jane also shot Sinatra last

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season. I know she didn't kill her, obviously,

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but. But it was.

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>> Will: Yeah, it was.

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>> Sarah : It was a bit shot.

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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah, I did. I. I know we had talked about

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it earlier this season too. Like, when. In the

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third episode when Sinatra was, like, having

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memory issues and, you know, they did. I did like,

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the bookend that they did this. Now it's like

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after you. You. Sinatra is like, after you. After

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you shot me, you told me I was no use to it dead.

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What do you mean? And. And. And, you know, it gets

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back, like, as we were saying about. To the mommy

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issues. And also, I guess another reason why I

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bring it up too is I just really, liked how in

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this, you know, know, whenever Sinatra and Jane,

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had their encounters there in the office, they had

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to call back to you. The. You should have let me.

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You should have given me the Wii moment. And. And

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she gave her the. The console. But again, I. I get

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where you're coming from too, because it's like,

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you know, there is the connective. The threat. The

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connective tissue there between Sinatra and.

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>> Sarah : And.

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>> Will: And. And Agent Thomas, you know, with the Wii and

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the. You know, how we. You know, how the Wii

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obsession even came into being because, you know,

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Jane saw the. The game. The game controllers, at.

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At Thomas's house. So, I mean, so there's those

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all, you know, so to me, it's just like. It is a

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lot of, you know, filling into the. Filling in the

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blank.

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>> Sarah : well, no, I think. I think the we thing is the

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type of writing that Fogelman's writers room I

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enjoy. But there's another side of the writer's

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room, not the writer's room, but there's another.

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Another part of their writing where they. They

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telegraph things and. And it. And it's less

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surprising. So I find with this episode, the more

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I think about it, a lot of it leans heavily on the

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telegraphing and the like. Okay, well, you could

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have been a little more creative with that angle,

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but here we are. And. And then the we thing is one

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of the few, if not the thing that, leans in the

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other direction. So it's just. There's. There's,

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like. When I was watching this is Us, I had the

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same opinion about. Not every episode is like,

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this is the best episode of all time, but there

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are little beats, but then there are These, These

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story lines where you're like, okay, I've seen

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this before. So I just. Nothing. Not a lot of

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stuff felt new. I mean, the one character who did

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probably surprise me the most was not Jane in this

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episode. It was Robinson. Robinson the more. And

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maybe it's because we. We had so little, but I was

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just like, can we rewind, and take us back through

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when she goes into custody and all that? Because,

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man, she. I feel like she just got off of a be. I

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feel like she's coming out the other side a whole

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new person and I'm not mad at it.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, totally.

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>> Sarah : Everything she said is so justifiable. She had a

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lot of great one liners and I was reminded. I had

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forgotten. I was reminded in this episode that Cal

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and her were a thing. They were having an affair.

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And Jeremy knew.

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>> Will: Jeremy knew.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah, Jeremy knew. So I. I thought that was

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the. One of the more surprising things to have

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happened in this episode, if not the most, was.

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Was getting to see Robinson and having her like,

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oh, she was fed up. She was.

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>> Will: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, whenever.

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Whenever she says, actually, Doc ain't got

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document I ain't got to do but stay black and die.

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I mean, I was like, all right, all right, tell me

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there's some African Americans in the writers room

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without telling me.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Very diverse writers

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room.

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>> Will: Yeah. But, but no, but to. But to your point, I

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mean, it truly was like seeing how fed up she was

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with. With all. All of the. That's just going on

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there in the bunker. And, and. And. And then when

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she calls out Jeremy and. And, on. On, and Andre.

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Andre, Andre, Anders, the, the bunker builder, for

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their Shawshank plan and how obvious it was. And

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yeah, I thought those were like. Yeah, it's like,

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what's up, Shawshank? That was like, those are

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both really good moments. But also, Yeah, I mean,

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I, I agree with you. I think though, you know, we

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haven't. We've been away from her debunker for a

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while, but when we did get those moments, like

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that, I think that was a very, very strong moment,

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for. For this episode. and, yeah, it felt like

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>> Sarah : there were so many different moving parts going on

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in the bunker that I wanted to stay more time

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there. So whenever we did get a Jane flashback, I

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was. I felt like it was a different story all of a

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sudden. I mean, I know, I'm not stupid. I know why

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the flashbacks came into play and everything

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throughout this episode. But it just didn't. It.

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It slowed momentum because we were not checking in

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with just one storyline. We were not just going

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back to present. And like, this episode is named

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Jane, but I feel like it should have been named

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Jane Slash Bunker because we've been away from the

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bunker, as you put it, for a while. So we finally

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are back in it and like, we're fully engrossed in

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the bunker. But they choose this time to flesh out

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Jane's backstory and everything. And that's where

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I have the problem because again, as I preface my

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opinion this. This evening I came in with very

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high expectations because I've been wanting this

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episode. So when I say I'm disappointed, it means

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like, I. Because it's something I've wanted, it's

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never gonna be what I get.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : So it's really hard to meet those when it's like,

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my God. And. And that's kind of why I don't theory

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spiral so much anymore is because I've noticed

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that if I don't go in with expectations, then I'm

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usually surprised. But if I do, I'm like, oh,

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well, that's nice, but you could have done, this.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, that's true. I mean, you know that.

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But I think the getting back to what we were

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discussing about things going on in the bunker

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too, we also see, And maybe. Maybe it is Presley

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and Hadley.

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>> Sarah : Their.

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>> Will: Their relationship. Yeah. yeah. Their

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interactions. Because they've never, you know,

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they really haven't today, and had any interaction

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whatsoever. I mean, other than. And I like that

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the episode did not pretend like they like, had

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this like, off screen friendship that now we're

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seeing. I mean, it was, it was true. Where. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Hadley is just a girl who's been in a bubble

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within a bunker and that was made in a short

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period of time. They made that very clear to us.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : That she has been in a different bunker within the

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bunker and she didn't even realize it. but. But

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yes. Seeing, that. Because now we. There's so many

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moving parts in this show.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : That, That we often forget when we have long

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stretches without checking in with everybody. And

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then when we do, it's kind of like, oh, okay.

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Because. But. But then again, I, I mean, sometimes

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less is more. So I'm glad it was brief

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interactions and we didn't spend too much time on

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it. but. But it's definitely. There's a lot of

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movement because it's an escalation leading to. We

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Only got two more episodes this season. Yeah, the

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other thing that happened in this episode in

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present day, outside of the bunker was the Xavier.

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>> Will: Oh, well, two things. I mean before we go to

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Xavier, we did. We did get Submit. You know, we

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did get a link appearance as well. and sort of

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setting up the dynamic there with the negotiations

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that they had. And again there were just. I mean,

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I guess that's where the Jane that. The Jane

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things did work for me because it, It, It. It

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basically ex. Showed other facets to her other

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than just being a blunt force like which we know,

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but that she's. She had you know, she's been very

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manipulative and stuff, which we did see that in

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her personnel file. But you know, but also you

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know, the training lessons that she received from

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Thomas definitely like, you know, went in, you

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know, in the. In the favor whenever Lincoln and

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Jane were, you know, outside negotiating as far as

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you know, them coming into. Into the bunker. So,

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So I did, you know, so you know, again moving all

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the various moving parts. It was sort of see link

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and everything come back and you know, whatever

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again to the time travel theories and what Alex

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is. And. And also the other thing with the bunker

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too is Anders and Jeremy talking about the. The

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fail safe system too. which you know, gets into

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the point of like, you know, maybe Alex is the

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control system for the bunker. Not necessarily,

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you know, not necessarily a person, but you know.

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But what. Maybe what the bunkers was the code name

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for it to begin with. So, so there were those

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aspects of it as well, as far as, you know, what

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was going on in Colorado. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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but, yeah, but two. But going into your point

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about Xavier and, And Gary.

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>> Sarah : What about it?

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>> Will: I mean, go. And I was gonna say. Yeah, go ahead. I

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was just. I just wanted to close up Colorado.

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>> Sarah : No, you, you can, you can lead us into it.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah. I mean, we. We did see the You know,

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Gary's little. Gary's little fantasy, you know,

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playing out there and how he You know, his. His.

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His fan is. His little world with with Terry, Was.

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Was continued, you know, was. Was. Was there and

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you know, Xavier was like working on the. On the

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bomb. I was wondering when. When the double cross

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was going to happen. and then of course when he

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leaves, you know, whenever he's leaving, leaving

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the message, to. To Gary, and. And how he How he

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takes that and you know, and basically like, you

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know, hits the switch prematurely to Take out

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Xavier so he can, you know, get his competition

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out of the way. it, yeah, it, you know, it, it

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went that, that to your, you know, to your point

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about telegraph things, I mean, that one to me

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was, was telegraphed, especially, whenever they

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00:27:41,540 --> 00:27:45,460
pulled out the photo and Saver put the pieces

482
00:27:45,460 --> 00:27:45,820
together.

483
00:27:46,190 --> 00:27:49,399
>> Sarah : again, what, what, what pieces were there to put

484
00:27:49,399 --> 00:27:52,320
together? Because Gary told him in the previous

485
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,280
episode that he fell in love with his wife. So

486
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,770
that's my issue with this whole thing in. And

487
00:28:01,770 --> 00:28:04,530
that's why, to your point, it was telegraphed is

488
00:28:04,530 --> 00:28:09,610
because, like, why, why have the photo, why have

489
00:28:09,610 --> 00:28:11,890
the photo and him look at the photo and be like,

490
00:28:11,890 --> 00:28:15,010
oh, my God, you're in love? It's like, no, no, no,

491
00:28:15,010 --> 00:28:19,370
no, Gary, Gary told you and then you decided to

492
00:28:19,370 --> 00:28:20,450
leave him with the bomb.

493
00:28:21,010 --> 00:28:21,490
>> Will: Yeah.

494
00:28:21,970 --> 00:28:23,650
>> Sarah : You decided to trust him.

495
00:28:24,050 --> 00:28:24,410
>> Will: Yeah.

496
00:28:24,410 --> 00:28:27,810
>> Sarah : So I guess either you did not understand the death

497
00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:35,070
or did not. I mean, I mean, yeah, granted. Did he

498
00:28:35,070 --> 00:28:37,830
tell the full truth? No, because he did not admit

499
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:42,110
that, like, yeah, Terry willingly is with the

500
00:28:42,110 --> 00:28:42,790
train people.

501
00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:46,470
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, I think that's, but, but

502
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:51,090
>> Sarah : that, to me, when, when Xavier sees the photo,

503
00:28:51,570 --> 00:28:53,690
that is not the piece he's putting together at

504
00:28:53,690 --> 00:28:58,970
all. No, he is, he is, it is implied visually that

505
00:28:58,970 --> 00:29:02,010
he is putting together the piece that Gary is in

506
00:29:02,010 --> 00:29:03,250
love with Terry.

507
00:29:03,490 --> 00:29:03,930
>> Will: Yeah.

508
00:29:03,930 --> 00:29:06,890
>> Sarah : Something that Gary has already told him, so.

509
00:29:06,890 --> 00:29:07,730
>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

510
00:29:08,130 --> 00:29:09,570
>> Sarah : On this whole beat.

511
00:29:10,290 --> 00:29:14,490
>> Will: Yeah. I mean, I, I, I think I, I, I'm there with

512
00:29:14,490 --> 00:29:17,250
you on that one because I, whenever I was watching

513
00:29:17,250 --> 00:29:20,930
it last night and whenever, when Xavier pulled out

514
00:29:20,930 --> 00:29:27,030
the, pulled out the photo and saw how, how Gary,

515
00:29:27,340 --> 00:29:32,980
was looking at Terry, I, I, I, it, it did. Well,

516
00:29:34,660 --> 00:29:40,540
it seems that Xavier, Xavier knew that. I think

517
00:29:40,540 --> 00:29:44,820
Xavier knew something was off still, even after

518
00:29:46,180 --> 00:29:50,630
they had that conversation. And, but I don't know.

519
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:53,110
It's just, it was just, I don't know if he's just

520
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:56,950
like, just his judgment was, was compromised in

521
00:29:56,950 --> 00:30:00,630
that, in that moment or, or what, but it did seem

522
00:30:00,630 --> 00:30:05,550
to, Yeah, but, you know, but it did seem a bit

523
00:30:05,550 --> 00:30:07,950
contrived that they, they do the visual cue as

524
00:30:07,950 --> 00:30:10,670
well to help Saber pull it all together there.

525
00:30:10,670 --> 00:30:13,150
And, and maybe that was what they were doing so

526
00:30:13,150 --> 00:30:15,420
that then they could, like, you know, have the

527
00:30:15,420 --> 00:30:18,100
moment where they do have the reunification. And,

528
00:30:18,270 --> 00:30:20,350
I will say that, that I was surprised that the

529
00:30:20,350 --> 00:30:23,440
reunification did happen. this, this, this

530
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,200
episode. I thought maybe it would be pushed off

531
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,160
until either next week or the finale.

532
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,820
>> Sarah : Yeah. all right. Any other thoughts about this

533
00:30:33,820 --> 00:30:34,460
episode?

534
00:30:35,910 --> 00:30:37,950
>> Will: I don't think So, I mean, I think we, I think

535
00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:40,070
we've covered it pretty, pretty thoroughly. So,

536
00:30:40,460 --> 00:30:42,300
I'm sure there are some other ones. And if folks,

537
00:30:42,260 --> 00:30:44,500
have any, have any thoughts or anything we missed,

538
00:30:44,450 --> 00:30:45,410
let us know in the comments.

539
00:30:46,770 --> 00:30:50,610
>> Sarah : And that brings us to One Piece, Season two. We

540
00:30:50,610 --> 00:30:53,090
are going to talk about the first three episodes

541
00:30:53,090 --> 00:30:55,809
of the season. That is all either one of us have

542
00:30:55,809 --> 00:30:59,570
watched so far. So if you are going to comment

543
00:30:59,810 --> 00:31:02,840
stuff, do not comment spoilers. because we have

544
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,370
not watched any of the other episodes thus far.

545
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,580
and we are just going to talk about overall

546
00:31:09,580 --> 00:31:13,290
thoughts and some of the basic storylines that are

547
00:31:13,290 --> 00:31:16,170
going on in these three episodes. And I want to

548
00:31:16,170 --> 00:31:19,170
start off, because in the first episode, the

549
00:31:19,170 --> 00:31:23,610
beginning and the end, we get introduced to a new

550
00:31:23,770 --> 00:31:28,020
villain, from the Marines, with. With Captain

551
00:31:28,020 --> 00:31:32,230
Smith. What. What are your thoughts about Captain

552
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:32,910
Smoker?

553
00:31:32,910 --> 00:31:39,150
>> Will: Will I. Well, first off, Captain Smoker, I was

554
00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:40,790
like, where did I knew this guy from? Because he

555
00:31:40,790 --> 00:31:43,920
just seems very familiar. But but what I liked

556
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:49,880
about Smoker was he, you know, he's. He's Mr. He's

557
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,120
true Marine. I mean he, he, you know, he has a

558
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,260
mission, that he has, that he wants to, to

559
00:31:55,260 --> 00:31:58,420
achieve. I really like the dynamic between Smoker

560
00:31:58,660 --> 00:31:59,540
and Garp.

561
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,040
>> Will: because you know, I think it really highlights

562
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,460
some of the, you know, the, you know, you know,

563
00:32:07,460 --> 00:32:11,620
Garp has this, you know, you know, you know,

564
00:32:11,620 --> 00:32:13,660
Luffy's his grandson and we get, you know, we get,

565
00:32:13,660 --> 00:32:16,460
we get some more backstory as far as Garp and why

566
00:32:16,460 --> 00:32:18,540
he ended up taking care of Luffy and that kind of

567
00:32:18,540 --> 00:32:21,200
stuff in the first episode. But I mean, you know,

568
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,520
Smoker. But you know, Smoker is there to to bring

569
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,050
the straw hats in. And I, I really like this

570
00:32:29,050 --> 00:32:31,370
character. Also the interactions that he had with

571
00:32:31,550 --> 00:32:34,420
the other. With Tushagi, the the young lady,

572
00:32:34,940 --> 00:32:39,410
who's. And. And also Kobe and. And I can't

573
00:32:39,410 --> 00:32:43,460
remember the other. The other. Kobe's other out.

574
00:32:43,460 --> 00:32:45,060
Yeah. With the funky haircut.

575
00:32:45,140 --> 00:32:45,540
>> Sarah : Yeah.

576
00:32:45,540 --> 00:32:48,110
>> Will: But, yeah, you know, it was, it was,

577
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,560
>> Sarah : you know, what did you think about his powers that

578
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,680
are revealed at the end of the first episode?

579
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,880
>> Will: So that's. Yeah. So I liked his powers. I mean, it

580
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,200
was pretty, pretty, pretty cool as far as just

581
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,240
like, you know, being able to manipulate the smoke

582
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,760
and, and you know, you know, he was able to

583
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,980
neutralize Luffy, which was pretty. Which was.

584
00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:12,500
Which is very interesting as well.

585
00:33:12,660 --> 00:33:17,140
>> Sarah : He. It definitely they did a good job with the

586
00:33:17,140 --> 00:33:20,220
surprise as A viewer who does not know anything

587
00:33:20,220 --> 00:33:25,500
about the mythology of one piece to produce those

588
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:29,540
powers and then feel like a real threat to the

589
00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:34,791
point where if the dragon hadn't stepped in, Luffy

590
00:33:34,791 --> 00:33:36,431
would have been goner. So.

591
00:33:36,831 --> 00:33:37,311
>> Will: Yeah.

592
00:33:37,791 --> 00:33:41,831
>> Sarah : And. And it also is good that we're not just

593
00:33:41,831 --> 00:33:46,431
getting more pirates who are after Luffy. But it,

594
00:33:46,461 --> 00:33:49,581
The first season, we spent so much time with Garp,

595
00:33:50,271 --> 00:33:53,311
that he was really the threat from the Marines.

596
00:33:53,631 --> 00:33:56,831
But now they've added, because they fleshed out

597
00:33:57,311 --> 00:34:02,301
this, relationship with. With Luffy, that they

598
00:34:02,301 --> 00:34:05,421
needed another adversary from the Marines to step

599
00:34:05,421 --> 00:34:09,021
in. And that's where you have Smoker. And. And I

600
00:34:09,021 --> 00:34:14,261
think they also. They do. Something that struck me

601
00:34:14,261 --> 00:34:20,061
specifically about Smoker, Tashigi and Garp is

602
00:34:20,061 --> 00:34:23,181
that in watching these three episodes, I was

603
00:34:23,181 --> 00:34:29,571
reminded of. They're the writers and this. This

604
00:34:29,571 --> 00:34:32,371
franchise in particular, their ability to do

605
00:34:32,371 --> 00:34:37,611
exposition. Well, because the. The whole

606
00:34:37,691 --> 00:34:41,531
conversation in the second episode between Garp

607
00:34:41,851 --> 00:34:46,171
and Smoker, it was just. It was done so well

608
00:34:46,171 --> 00:34:48,481
because, you know, from, From a character

609
00:34:48,481 --> 00:34:52,361
perspective, why Garp does not want Smoker after

610
00:34:52,361 --> 00:34:57,311
Luffy. But you also know you also get the. He's.

611
00:34:57,311 --> 00:35:00,031
He's pointing Smoker in a different direction,

612
00:35:00,431 --> 00:35:04,711
which just so happens to be involving with the

613
00:35:04,711 --> 00:35:08,241
Baroque, What do they call it? House of Brokers.

614
00:35:08,321 --> 00:35:10,721
>> Will: The broke work. The baroque workers.

615
00:35:11,201 --> 00:35:11,921
>> Sarah : The broke.

616
00:35:12,481 --> 00:35:12,841
>> Will: Yeah.

617
00:35:12,841 --> 00:35:14,841
>> Sarah : We're gonna get it eventually. We're only on three

618
00:35:14,841 --> 00:35:20,771
episodes and. And then this missing princess. So

619
00:35:20,771 --> 00:35:26,851
it. It's just there. This is such a big world that

620
00:35:27,891 --> 00:35:35,451
they are able to have, not boring exposition where

621
00:35:35,451 --> 00:35:39,891
it's just thrown out there. But no, like it's.

622
00:35:39,891 --> 00:35:43,491
It's muddled in between other conversations about

623
00:35:43,491 --> 00:35:47,171
what it takes, what it means to be a Marine, and

624
00:35:47,171 --> 00:35:50,151
what are our motivations and why we're really

625
00:35:50,151 --> 00:35:53,911
doing what we're doing. And. And they also to

626
00:35:53,911 --> 00:35:59,591
expand that to Shigi, which. Who we meet as not a

627
00:35:59,591 --> 00:36:02,741
Marine technically. we only later find out that

628
00:36:02,741 --> 00:36:08,191
she is in training. And But she is very much akin

629
00:36:08,191 --> 00:36:12,831
to Zorro. She. She's obsessed with swords, and she

630
00:36:13,231 --> 00:36:18,221
is. Who's. Who's the Marine that. I'm blanking on

631
00:36:18,221 --> 00:36:21,141
his name now. Not the one with bad haircut, but

632
00:36:21,221 --> 00:36:22,101
the other one.

633
00:36:22,181 --> 00:36:22,901
>> Will: Oh, Kobe.

634
00:36:23,381 --> 00:36:29,661
>> Sarah : Kobe. Like I. It just seeing her and Zorro in the

635
00:36:29,661 --> 00:36:34,501
first episode reminded me a lot of what they did

636
00:36:34,501 --> 00:36:37,741
well with Luffy and Kobe and how you have these

637
00:36:37,741 --> 00:36:42,621
two people who have similar moral compasses but

638
00:36:42,621 --> 00:36:48,211
choose different paths to. To achieve it. and I

639
00:36:48,211 --> 00:36:52,451
think it's very smart to show that with Tashigi.

640
00:36:52,931 --> 00:36:56,971
Because I did notice that in the background in

641
00:36:56,971 --> 00:37:01,011
these three episodes, they are kind of building

642
00:37:01,331 --> 00:37:06,291
with Zorro or so I think an idea that I feel like

643
00:37:06,291 --> 00:37:09,821
he's questioning his crew. I feel like he's

644
00:37:09,821 --> 00:37:16,221
questioning like he, he used to hunt pirates. Now

645
00:37:16,221 --> 00:37:19,981
he's on a crew with them. He's part of the crew.

646
00:37:20,221 --> 00:37:25,181
And he's like. And he's also dealing with his own.

647
00:37:25,341 --> 00:37:29,261
I need to prepare because one day I will defeat,

648
00:37:30,051 --> 00:37:31,171
>> Will: Mihai. Yeah.

649
00:37:31,891 --> 00:37:32,291
>> Sarah : So.

650
00:37:32,611 --> 00:37:36,411
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, see, you know, I didn't get that he

651
00:37:36,411 --> 00:37:39,451
was. I got. I. I got. They're coming more together

652
00:37:39,451 --> 00:37:41,571
as a crew because that was one of the bits that

653
00:37:41,571 --> 00:37:43,851
they had all throughout the first season. Like

654
00:37:43,851 --> 00:37:47,931
we're not a crew now. They. They are a cohesive

655
00:37:47,931 --> 00:37:52,131
unit. But I think maybe I took. I took maybe that

656
00:37:52,131 --> 00:37:55,881
he wasn't like questioning the, the, the, the the

657
00:37:55,881 --> 00:38:01,871
that aspect of things is more just how, you know,

658
00:38:02,431 --> 00:38:06,111
I think his preparation to me was like sort of

659
00:38:06,111 --> 00:38:08,711
that over overarching thing. And then of course in

660
00:38:08,711 --> 00:38:11,271
the first episode with. With Zorro, it was just

661
00:38:11,271 --> 00:38:13,511
really, you know, trying to replace the. The

662
00:38:13,511 --> 00:38:16,071
broken swords and you know, and of course when

663
00:38:16,071 --> 00:38:19,351
Tushagi's in the, in the shop and you know, and

664
00:38:19,351 --> 00:38:21,511
what he's trying to barter and all those kind of

665
00:38:21,511 --> 00:38:21,791
things.

666
00:38:22,031 --> 00:38:25,111
>> Sarah : Well, I just. I just mean a lot of his

667
00:38:25,111 --> 00:38:27,311
conversations. I mean, think about the second

668
00:38:27,311 --> 00:38:31,651
episode with the whale. Him and Nami are going at

669
00:38:31,651 --> 00:38:34,971
it and he's like, I'm gonna get. I'm gonna build a

670
00:38:34,971 --> 00:38:36,691
big sword to get us out of here.

671
00:38:36,931 --> 00:38:37,411
>> Will: Yeah.

672
00:38:37,411 --> 00:38:41,731
>> Sarah : And. And she's also going on her own thing where.

673
00:38:42,371 --> 00:38:44,730
And maybe you're right. Maybe it's not so much.

674
00:38:44,730 --> 00:38:47,851
And maybe I. I phrased it wrong of what I was

675
00:38:47,851 --> 00:38:51,131
getting at. It's not that I'm. I think that they

676
00:38:51,131 --> 00:38:54,351
are questioning if they are a crew. It's more that

677
00:38:54,351 --> 00:38:57,341
I see doubts in their abilities.

678
00:38:57,901 --> 00:38:58,861
>> Will: Yes. And.

679
00:38:58,941 --> 00:39:03,741
>> Sarah : And also doubts if they are on the right path.

680
00:39:04,221 --> 00:39:04,541
Like.

681
00:39:04,541 --> 00:39:06,381
>> Will: Yeah, that's what I see.

682
00:39:06,701 --> 00:39:10,221
>> Sarah : Luffy has one goal and he's made very, very clear.

683
00:39:10,221 --> 00:39:10,781
Okay.

684
00:39:10,781 --> 00:39:11,421
>> Will: Oh yeah.

685
00:39:11,421 --> 00:39:13,821
>> Sarah : Maybe he has two goals because he does love to

686
00:39:13,821 --> 00:39:21,701
eat. But. But for the others, their goals may not

687
00:39:21,701 --> 00:39:25,201
always all be aligned with Luffy and, and getting

688
00:39:25,521 --> 00:39:29,441
the one piece. Like they, they have other dreams

689
00:39:29,441 --> 00:39:32,001
too. So it's. How do you. How do you make both

690
00:39:32,081 --> 00:39:35,271
work? I think at the end of the day. but, but

691
00:39:35,271 --> 00:39:38,311
between Nami and Zorro, you do see a lot of

692
00:39:38,311 --> 00:39:43,871
questioning of abilities, especially in this pun

693
00:39:43,871 --> 00:39:46,151
intended but uncharted territory.

694
00:39:48,711 --> 00:39:51,071
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. You definitely. Yeah, because I will.

695
00:39:51,071 --> 00:39:54,671
I, I agree with you. I think the, the doubt is

696
00:39:54,671 --> 00:39:56,951
very strong with those two characters. Whereas,

697
00:39:57,271 --> 00:40:00,321
you know, I think you, saw this season is, is much

698
00:40:00,321 --> 00:40:03,811
more confident. and I think it's been like that

699
00:40:03,811 --> 00:40:06,691
though. Yeah, but he's, I don't know, maybe, maybe

700
00:40:07,171 --> 00:40:09,771
confident. Yeah, I feel like they're giving him

701
00:40:09,771 --> 00:40:12,091
more to, he seems they're giving him more to do. I

702
00:40:12,091 --> 00:40:15,651
feel like, at least in these early episodes, and

703
00:40:15,651 --> 00:40:17,291
it's Sanji's Sasanji, so.

704
00:40:18,171 --> 00:40:25,371
>> Sarah : See, I, I, I think Sanji and Yusuf have not had a

705
00:40:25,371 --> 00:40:30,141
whole lot to do. I, feel like, I feel like we've

706
00:40:30,141 --> 00:40:35,341
spent more with Nami and, and Zorro. M. And then

707
00:40:35,421 --> 00:40:39,301
way more with, all of the new characters like we

708
00:40:39,301 --> 00:40:41,741
were talking about before with Smoker and Tashi.

709
00:40:42,301 --> 00:40:42,781
>> Will: Yeah.

710
00:40:42,821 --> 00:40:45,351
>> Sarah : and, and characters who we have not talking about.

711
00:40:45,351 --> 00:40:47,991
I mean, the entire second episode, well, not the

712
00:40:47,991 --> 00:40:51,151
entire, but a good portion is all about

713
00:40:51,151 --> 00:40:55,431
introducing us to the Buu and Leboo becoming a

714
00:40:55,431 --> 00:40:57,591
straw hat. The big whale will.

715
00:40:57,591 --> 00:40:59,231
>> Will: Yep. Yes, the big whale.

716
00:41:00,111 --> 00:41:04,581
>> Sarah : Big whale. And within the whale, we meet Ms.

717
00:41:04,581 --> 00:41:10,131
Wednesday. which brings me to now, I've already

718
00:41:10,131 --> 00:41:12,611
mentioned in the first episode, we got wind of a

719
00:41:12,611 --> 00:41:14,971
missing Princess. In the second episode, we meet

720
00:41:14,971 --> 00:41:19,610
Ms. Wednesday. In the third episode, at what point

721
00:41:19,610 --> 00:41:23,931
did you think, oh, Ms. Wednesday is the princess?

722
00:41:27,131 --> 00:41:31,171
>> Will: it was, See, so they, I know after they escaped,

723
00:41:33,281 --> 00:41:38,041
and went to the island, it, I, I, you know,

724
00:41:38,041 --> 00:41:41,721
honestly, I, I think with the reveal, it was

725
00:41:41,721 --> 00:41:45,521
pretty much when it happened. I, you know, I,

726
00:41:45,521 --> 00:41:49,111
Yeah, me too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I was, yeah,

727
00:41:49,111 --> 00:41:51,431
because, you know, again, I have, I, I am, I am

728
00:41:51,431 --> 00:41:54,321
truly live action. I haven't read a single. I

729
00:41:54,321 --> 00:41:56,731
kept. I, I, as I promised to you, almost three

730
00:41:56,731 --> 00:41:58,971
years ago, when we watched season one, I would not

731
00:41:58,971 --> 00:42:01,331
go back. I would not go read the, the manga. I

732
00:42:01,331 --> 00:42:03,811
will not go watch any of the car, you know,

733
00:42:03,811 --> 00:42:06,731
animated versions either. So I am coming to this

734
00:42:06,731 --> 00:42:11,291
Cold. Yeah, so I, Yeah, so I, I, yeah, so whenever

735
00:42:11,931 --> 00:42:14,771
she ended up. But it makes sense, especially given

736
00:42:14,771 --> 00:42:16,611
back to our conversation, you know, as we were

737
00:42:16,611 --> 00:42:18,571
discussing earlier. And I know it took me a minute

738
00:42:18,571 --> 00:42:21,271
to get my thoughts around Smoker, but, you know,

739
00:42:21,271 --> 00:42:24,231
one of the things too is like, you know, when,

740
00:42:24,231 --> 00:42:27,711
when, you know, Garp tells him, look, you know, we

741
00:42:27,711 --> 00:42:29,681
got to, you know, we, there's the King of the

742
00:42:29,681 --> 00:42:32,521
Malabasters on the verge of a civil war, you know,

743
00:42:32,521 --> 00:42:34,241
and it, it all starts

744
00:42:34,241 --> 00:42:39,241
>> Sarah : to pull together so well, I I like the reveal.

745
00:42:39,481 --> 00:42:45,921
Because of Luffy. Because you have. And. And they

746
00:42:45,921 --> 00:42:48,481
did. I vaguely remember them doing this with this

747
00:42:48,481 --> 00:42:51,231
character in the first season as well. Well. And.

748
00:42:51,231 --> 00:42:54,791
And I'm not. I'm not saying this to make it sound

749
00:42:54,791 --> 00:42:59,031
like Ren Swash. Repeat it. It feels familiar and

750
00:42:59,031 --> 00:43:02,471
true to these characters in this world that we met

751
00:43:02,471 --> 00:43:03,471
in the first season.

752
00:43:03,871 --> 00:43:04,321
>> Will: Yeah.

753
00:43:04,321 --> 00:43:08,041
>> Sarah : but the. Because at the Beginning of the third

754
00:43:08,041 --> 00:43:11,601
episode, Luffy questions Ms. Wednesday by himself,

755
00:43:12,081 --> 00:43:16,891
which also guys like, why? Why? Why is Luffy left

756
00:43:16,891 --> 00:43:21,291
alone? Huh? And then you're surprised when he lets

757
00:43:21,291 --> 00:43:26,821
them go. Okay. And. And he, He trusts his gut. And

758
00:43:26,821 --> 00:43:29,341
he says, no, I don't think you're here to hurt us.

759
00:43:29,741 --> 00:43:32,301
I don't think you are. And he's right.

760
00:43:32,621 --> 00:43:33,581
>> Will: He's right. Yep.

761
00:43:33,661 --> 00:43:38,181
>> Sarah : And. And it. Because of the way they play it and

762
00:43:38,181 --> 00:43:43,971
the actor. It. It just. You take the side with the

763
00:43:43,971 --> 00:43:47,651
Nami or the Zorro or the Sanji or the Usopp, and

764
00:43:47,651 --> 00:43:51,651
you question. Hm, I don't know about this. I don't

765
00:43:51,651 --> 00:43:55,211
know about this. Only to then be, well, this is

766
00:43:55,211 --> 00:43:58,451
Princess. And if I think about it too long, guys,

767
00:43:58,451 --> 00:44:02,531
I will admit I do have some. There are some plot

768
00:44:02,531 --> 00:44:05,691
holes, but I'm just gonna put those aside and

769
00:44:05,691 --> 00:44:11,161
focus on the positive in this meantime. So, So I.

770
00:44:11,481 --> 00:44:16,161
I like how we randomly get another crew. And the

771
00:44:16,161 --> 00:44:19,481
other thing I really liked about the Ms. Wednesday

772
00:44:19,641 --> 00:44:25,520
reveal was her partner who, yes, became very

773
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:31,081
obnoxious. And yeah, I need a better explanation

774
00:44:31,161 --> 00:44:34,641
for him wearing a crown because I want to get into

775
00:44:34,641 --> 00:44:39,201
those. That childhood trauma. he. He became very

776
00:44:39,201 --> 00:44:42,041
annoying with his interactions with Sorrow.

777
00:44:42,281 --> 00:44:46,801
However, when he is questioned at The End by Ms.

778
00:44:46,801 --> 00:44:50,851
Valentine, and Mr. Five.

779
00:44:51,171 --> 00:44:51,651
>> Will: Yeah.

780
00:44:51,891 --> 00:44:57,091
>> Sarah : Yeah. He doesn't give her up. And I thought that

781
00:44:57,091 --> 00:45:00,411
was so interesting. And it makes me mad that Miss

782
00:45:00,411 --> 00:45:04,431
Valentine still stomped him to death. because.

783
00:45:04,911 --> 00:45:08,751
Because it was not expected for him to be like,

784
00:45:08,831 --> 00:45:12,221
yeah, go ahead and kill me. I'm, I ain't gonna

785
00:45:12,221 --> 00:45:16,861
tell you. I was like. And. And maybe this is why

786
00:45:17,501 --> 00:45:20,701
in talking about it and rambling out loud a little

787
00:45:20,701 --> 00:45:25,261
bit, is all the characters we meet, whether good

788
00:45:25,261 --> 00:45:29,871
or bad, in terms of their dynamic with Luffy and

789
00:45:29,871 --> 00:45:33,471
the crew and the straw hats, they all still have a

790
00:45:33,471 --> 00:45:33,911
code.

791
00:45:34,231 --> 00:45:36,311
>> Will: Yes. Yes. I was thinking that while you're

792
00:45:36,311 --> 00:45:37,511
mentioning about Mr. Nine.

793
00:45:37,591 --> 00:45:40,971
>> Sarah : Yeah. yeah. Yeah. It's really interesting and it

794
00:45:40,971 --> 00:45:44,851
makes. It makes you even respect some of the more

795
00:45:44,851 --> 00:45:47,171
villainous people. But you're like, but you still

796
00:45:47,171 --> 00:45:49,931
have a code, so there's some morality there.

797
00:45:50,411 --> 00:45:53,791
>> Will: Yeah. Except for maybe Buggy Well,

798
00:45:56,111 --> 00:46:00,951
>> Sarah : I think his morality has been long gone, has been

799
00:46:00,951 --> 00:46:05,391
broken to a million pieces per se. Yeah, but, but

800
00:46:05,391 --> 00:46:09,281
yeah, what are, what are some of your thoughts

801
00:46:09,281 --> 00:46:13,121
about the Baroque Works and Ms. Valentine and Mr.

802
00:46:13,121 --> 00:46:13,521
Five.

803
00:46:14,401 --> 00:46:18,651
>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. So Ms. First off, for our long time

804
00:46:18,651 --> 00:46:20,811
listeners, I don't know if any of you recognize

805
00:46:20,811 --> 00:46:27,031
Mr. Five was was from Batgirl or Batwoman. he was

806
00:46:27,031 --> 00:46:31,141
Lucius's Fox's son. Who, you know, who was the guy

807
00:46:31,141 --> 00:46:34,761
in the chair. But so it's cool seeing him again.

808
00:46:34,761 --> 00:46:37,761
But no, but as far as the, the Baroque works group

809
00:46:37,761 --> 00:46:40,681
and you know we get several things. You know, we

810
00:46:40,681 --> 00:46:46,241
do get Mr. Phi and, and and this how they work

811
00:46:46,241 --> 00:46:48,201
together and I like the interaction there too.

812
00:46:48,201 --> 00:46:49,881
Like to your point earlier about not get, you

813
00:46:49,881 --> 00:46:53,391
know, Mr. Nine not given. Given the princess up.

814
00:46:54,271 --> 00:46:56,461
But but also how he just like twisted. It's like

815
00:46:56,461 --> 00:47:00,181
look, you know, if you know, you guys are sent

816
00:47:00,181 --> 00:47:04,261
after us because other people, you know, Mr.

817
00:47:04,581 --> 00:47:10,041
Eight, not Mr. Eight. Mr. Mr. Eight was the

818
00:47:10,761 --> 00:47:13,321
undercover agent for the Alabaster. It was the

819
00:47:13,321 --> 00:47:17,241
other Mr. 7. I think whichever ones are, there's

820
00:47:17,241 --> 00:47:17,441
too

821
00:47:17,441 --> 00:47:20,161
>> Sarah : many numbers and too many years. Well, we know who

822
00:47:20,161 --> 00:47:22,361
you're talking about. The one that killed.

823
00:47:22,521 --> 00:47:25,641
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, but, yeah, but I liked how he, you

824
00:47:25,641 --> 00:47:28,161
know, how he was like, look, you know, Mr. Zero. I

825
00:47:28,161 --> 00:47:30,451
do not remember that one. well, you know, will not

826
00:47:30,451 --> 00:47:33,411
be happy. and you guys have, you know, you guys,

827
00:47:33,411 --> 00:47:35,171
you may kill me, but you're gonna, you know, if

828
00:47:35,171 --> 00:47:37,901
you don't do, if you don't succeed, you're gonna

829
00:47:37,901 --> 00:47:39,821
have a similar fate. So I really, I really like,

830
00:47:39,821 --> 00:47:43,101
really like that. And then also the other baroque.

831
00:47:43,161 --> 00:47:45,441
I know we were talking about Tushagi and you know,

832
00:47:45,441 --> 00:47:48,641
and she saw the glimpse of the person we met right

833
00:47:48,641 --> 00:47:50,201
when this, the whole season started.

834
00:47:51,301 --> 00:47:51,700
>> Sarah : Sunday.

835
00:47:52,181 --> 00:47:57,001
>> Will: Yeah. and just the. Again her powers and taking

836
00:47:57,001 --> 00:48:01,281
down the marines and you know, having him grow

837
00:48:01,281 --> 00:48:04,881
extra limbs. And that was just so I was like, all

838
00:48:04,881 --> 00:48:07,521
right, James Gunn must be somewhere sitting and

839
00:48:07,521 --> 00:48:09,521
you know, and smiling because that, that was so

840
00:48:09,521 --> 00:48:12,161
Guardian. Guardians of the Galaxy esque of those

841
00:48:12,161 --> 00:48:13,601
big fight scenes.

842
00:48:14,081 --> 00:48:16,961
>> Sarah : That's not where my mind went at all. Between.

843
00:48:17,441 --> 00:48:20,081
Between that opening fight sequence.

844
00:48:20,321 --> 00:48:20,721
>> Will: Yeah.

845
00:48:20,721 --> 00:48:21,921
>> Sarah : The booger bombs.

846
00:48:22,161 --> 00:48:22,641
>> Will: Yes.

847
00:48:22,721 --> 00:48:28,411
>> Sarah : Valentine's ability. The. The what, what the

848
00:48:28,411 --> 00:48:33,771
princess did while on desert. I Cactus Island. We,

849
00:48:34,171 --> 00:48:35,931
It took me back to Gen zv.

850
00:48:36,411 --> 00:48:37,531
>> Will: Oh yeah, that too.

851
00:48:38,011 --> 00:48:41,331
>> Sarah : I went. I went back to Gen V and a little Doom

852
00:48:41,331 --> 00:48:45,091
Patrol and I'm just like, I'm sorry guys. We're a

853
00:48:45,091 --> 00:48:51,241
bit scrapping the. The barrel here. but. But

854
00:48:51,241 --> 00:48:55,241
you're right. Like we were. We were talking

855
00:48:55,241 --> 00:48:59,671
before. I was really pleased that we just so

856
00:48:59,671 --> 00:49:02,631
happened to randomly choose to do these first

857
00:49:02,631 --> 00:49:04,991
three episodes because we literally start with

858
00:49:04,991 --> 00:49:07,471
Miss Sunday and we end with her.

859
00:49:07,711 --> 00:49:08,271
>> Will: Yep.

860
00:49:08,591 --> 00:49:13,191
>> Sarah : And that just because of how few scenes. Because

861
00:49:13,191 --> 00:49:19,181
we've only other seen her in talking to Tashi and

862
00:49:19,661 --> 00:49:23,901
which to go back to the code a little bit and

863
00:49:23,901 --> 00:49:26,071
tangential motivation.

864
00:49:27,301 --> 00:49:27,861
>> Will: Yeah.

865
00:49:28,901 --> 00:49:33,581
>> Sarah : She is not only interesting just because of how

866
00:49:33,581 --> 00:49:37,101
she comes in and what she does with the flower

867
00:49:37,101 --> 00:49:41,701
petals and then the extra limbs to kill yourself.

868
00:49:42,021 --> 00:49:43,061
to put it bluntly.

869
00:49:43,301 --> 00:49:43,781
>> Will: Yeah.

870
00:49:44,661 --> 00:49:50,861
>> Sarah : The very Black Widow esque. She also. She's. She's

871
00:49:50,861 --> 00:49:55,341
there at the base because of what happened with

872
00:49:55,341 --> 00:49:56,421
Zorro. Right.

873
00:49:56,421 --> 00:49:57,061
>> Will: Yeah. Right.

874
00:49:57,061 --> 00:49:58,501
>> Sarah : And one of the broke rocks.

875
00:49:58,741 --> 00:49:59,301
>> Will: Yep.

876
00:49:59,381 --> 00:50:02,261
>> Sarah : And so she's intrigued. But then she sees. Hears

877
00:50:02,261 --> 00:50:05,581
about Luffy and then you see her look at the

878
00:50:05,581 --> 00:50:07,921
wanted sign and she's curious.

879
00:50:08,241 --> 00:50:08,881
>> Will: Yep.

880
00:50:09,361 --> 00:50:15,121
>> Sarah : And. And so I feel like between that and later on

881
00:50:15,361 --> 00:50:19,691
in. In the third, episode when to go back to that

882
00:50:19,691 --> 00:50:27,051
scene with Ms. Valentine and Mr. Nine we. And Mr.

883
00:50:27,291 --> 00:50:33,681
56789. we. We hear them talk about like it's more

884
00:50:33,681 --> 00:50:37,191
about the princess. And so then by. So by the end

885
00:50:37,191 --> 00:50:39,631
of the third episode when they were on the Mary

886
00:50:39,631 --> 00:50:43,271
and Ms. Sunday's there, I'm like okay, so are you

887
00:50:43,271 --> 00:50:47,071
there for Princess or are you there for Luffy? Are

888
00:50:47,071 --> 00:50:49,711
you there for both or both? Are you there for

889
00:50:49,711 --> 00:50:54,151
Zorro? Like they've done a very interesting thing

890
00:50:54,151 --> 00:51:00,191
where these are very.3 very packed heavy episodes

891
00:51:00,191 --> 00:51:02,946
while at the same time ironically being self

892
00:51:02,946 --> 00:51:03,651
conscious contained.

893
00:51:03,971 --> 00:51:04,451
>> Will: Yeah.

894
00:51:04,451 --> 00:51:08,331
>> Sarah : And yet with her character it allows you to have a

895
00:51:08,331 --> 00:51:12,931
bit of intrigue, mystery and like. Okay, so while

896
00:51:12,931 --> 00:51:15,771
you're curious about the straw hats, I'm curious

897
00:51:15,771 --> 00:51:16,291
about you.

898
00:51:16,691 --> 00:51:17,891
>> Will: Yep, exactly.

899
00:51:17,971 --> 00:51:21,491
>> Sarah : Because I'm not. I'm not sure anymore if all of

900
00:51:21,491 --> 00:51:26,051
Broke Works are on the same page on what Mr. Zero

901
00:51:26,211 --> 00:51:30,051
wants. Or maybe. Maybe that's why Mr. Zero works.

902
00:51:30,201 --> 00:51:32,241
Maybe he gives them all different missions. We

903
00:51:32,241 --> 00:51:32,761
don't know.

904
00:51:33,081 --> 00:51:36,681
>> Will: That's true. That's true. He may. He made very

905
00:51:36,681 --> 00:51:39,751
well do so. and, and, and and so you know, it's

906
00:51:39,751 --> 00:51:42,231
the ultimate fail safe so that if one fails, I got

907
00:51:42,231 --> 00:51:45,390
other minions to take it on. And ah, and. And

908
00:51:45,390 --> 00:51:47,861
that's the other thing too. I do appreciate how. I

909
00:51:47,861 --> 00:51:50,821
mean in, in these first three episodes, you're

910
00:51:50,821 --> 00:51:53,581
right, they are very self contained. But they've

911
00:51:53,581 --> 00:51:56,571
built. They've built such a community. I mean I

912
00:51:56,571 --> 00:51:58,371
Think I, you know, we were talking before we

913
00:51:58,371 --> 00:52:01,451
recorded how I think there's like at least 30 new

914
00:52:01,451 --> 00:52:03,691
characters that we're going to get this season.

915
00:52:04,091 --> 00:52:06,621
And but then also pulling back some of the old

916
00:52:06,621 --> 00:52:09,221
characters too, as we were talking about Bugsy. So

917
00:52:09,941 --> 00:52:14,481
Buggy. so, yeah, so I just, I, I, you know, these,

918
00:52:14,721 --> 00:52:17,881
these. What I appreciate about so much about One

919
00:52:17,881 --> 00:52:20,361
Piece and I know we did from, from season one and

920
00:52:20,361 --> 00:52:23,471
also season two is how they just do. How, how the

921
00:52:23,471 --> 00:52:26,871
world building that they do within these episodes.

922
00:52:27,481 --> 00:52:29,841
that just, that just keeps you on your toes and,

923
00:52:29,841 --> 00:52:34,881
and, and, and, and then, you know, and you get

924
00:52:34,881 --> 00:52:37,521
payoff with, with all these characters and, and

925
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,991
you know, and thinking about, you know, even like

926
00:52:41,711 --> 00:52:44,871
with our, our key characters, like, you know, the

927
00:52:44,871 --> 00:52:47,231
fight sequences and stuff. I mean, I love the

928
00:52:47,231 --> 00:52:49,861
whole sequence that Zorro had in the third

929
00:52:49,861 --> 00:52:53,581
episode. You know, that one worked for me. It

930
00:52:53,581 --> 00:52:55,621
didn't go too long because, you know, because they

931
00:52:55,621 --> 00:52:57,981
kept it different. And yeah, you started counting.

932
00:52:57,981 --> 00:53:01,501
So I, I got engaged because I was like counting

933
00:53:01,501 --> 00:53:04,980
along with Zorro instead of it just being like,

934
00:53:04,980 --> 00:53:06,861
oh, this is a big, you know, big set piece, big

935
00:53:06,861 --> 00:53:08,901
fight piece, whatever. You know, choreography

936
00:53:08,901 --> 00:53:11,701
obviously was great, but the way they like, had it

937
00:53:11,701 --> 00:53:13,781
was like I was, I was rooting for him to get to

938
00:53:13,781 --> 00:53:16,991
that hundred, that 100th kill, where. But I will.

939
00:53:16,991 --> 00:53:18,751
The other, the fight that did not work for me

940
00:53:18,751 --> 00:53:21,471
though was with Luffy and Aveda in the first

941
00:53:21,471 --> 00:53:23,671
episode. It did get a little bit cartoonish, but

942
00:53:23,671 --> 00:53:23,991
you know.

943
00:53:23,991 --> 00:53:27,031
>> Sarah : Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The first, the first

944
00:53:27,031 --> 00:53:30,390
episode is arguably the weakest of these three

945
00:53:30,951 --> 00:53:34,511
because maybe it was just like, we're starting,

946
00:53:34,511 --> 00:53:37,911
we're getting back into it. But it did, it didn't

947
00:53:37,911 --> 00:53:40,591
gel as well as the second. And then the third

948
00:53:40,591 --> 00:53:43,711
episode, I really like the second episode.

949
00:53:43,871 --> 00:53:44,561
>> Will: I did too.

950
00:53:44,561 --> 00:53:47,761
>> Sarah : I felt that that was the most cohesive.

951
00:53:48,241 --> 00:53:48,721
>> Will: Yeah.

952
00:53:50,171 --> 00:53:54,131
>> Sarah : and, and to just, to just go back a little bit to

953
00:53:54,131 --> 00:53:59,391
about Barack works, Baroque works. And something

954
00:53:59,391 --> 00:54:02,591
we touched on earlier about these. Whether you're

955
00:54:02,591 --> 00:54:05,071
a good guy or a bad guy in this world, you all

956
00:54:05,071 --> 00:54:07,031
seem to follow your own code. The. There's a lot

957
00:54:07,031 --> 00:54:12,481
of talk about path and with Tashigi especially,

958
00:54:13,201 --> 00:54:15,761
who joined the Marines due her to her obsession

959
00:54:15,761 --> 00:54:20,971
with swords. And then, she, she gets told like,

960
00:54:22,411 --> 00:54:25,891
well, well, sometimes you just have to choose your

961
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own path. Like, you can, you can follow, but you

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have to, you have to do what's right for you. And

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I think that's what we're seeing with a lot of the

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characters. And this season overall is. We're

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going to see more of the individuality that does

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sometimes, allow groups and bonds to form. so. So

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I am. Yeah, like, overall, and the more we talk

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about it, I, I think I enjoyed these episodes more

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than I originally thought I did. It's just a very.

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It's. It really is watching a cartoon come to

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life.

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>> Will: It really is. It really is.

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>> Sarah : And it. And it. And it walks a thin line of

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getting, getting too cartoony only to be pull you

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back but. And it's bright and it's loud.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I completely agree. I had that.

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I had. I had that in my notes. I meant to. I was

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going to lead off with that because that's. That's

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a. That's a great way to. To, sort of, you know,

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sum up. Sum up this series. and. And other one.

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And one last thing too. while I was on my mind, I

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still want to. Like while we were talking about

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the first three episodes, I did, you know, did

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like how they, you know, Todd Luffy on the. On the

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platform in Lugetown and the lightning and. And

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how it ties back to Gold Roger.

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>> Sarah : Yeah.

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>> Will: And the laugh and. And how, you know, and. And.

989
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And Smoker putting that together and it's like. I

990
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know that laugh. Think of the Smoker. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. It definitely was Smoker.

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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Because that's. That's when he. He wanted was

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like, no, Luffy is more of a threat than anybody

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realizes.

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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. yeah, so. Yeah. So, But yeah, I'm.

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I'm. I'm so glad that we're back in this. In this

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world and And I. And. And like you, I think the

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second episode for me was also, my favorite of the

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bunch so far. with. You know, because the whole

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backstory with With a Boon and the crew and Crocus

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and. And trying to keep Luffy away. But it. It

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all. It all really, really worked really, really

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well. really enjoying this. This show and can't

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wait to watch the next three episodes.

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>> Sarah : Yep. And on, that note, Will, why don't you tell

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our listeners where they can find you.

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>> Will: Yes, you can find me on all the socials at Will

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and Polk. W I L L M M P O L K. And you can find

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>> Sarah : me there too, at S.J. belmont, S.J.B. lmont.

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