Fantastic Four: The First Steps – What Worked and What Didn’t (Honest Review)

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>> Will: Music

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>> Sarah : Nerds. This is Scene N Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah Belmont, and with

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me, as always, is our Mr. Producer, Will Polk How are you doing

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tonight, Will?

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>> Will: Doing very well, Sarah How you doing this Tuesday, Monday evening?

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Sorry, I'm, so used to us recording on Tuesday, but we are. We are

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recording early this week.

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>> Sarah : Oh, my God, it is a Monday. Yeah,

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it'll be our last podcast

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until August. 14th.

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>> Will: Yep, it will be. It will be.

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I may do. I'll probably do a Star Trek one during that time

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period, but, but for us together. Yeah, we won't be together

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again until the 14th.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. Wakanda,

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Taka Wakanda. And then we abandon ship for a

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little bit more. But,

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but hey, guys, guys, we, we've been

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going strong. We're. We're entering

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like the second.

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>> Will: We.

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>> Sarah : We already started the second half of the year and,

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this will be the first big break.

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and if you were here last August, then

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it'll feel very similar, so.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, it will be.

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>> Sarah : It will be.

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>> Will: But, yeah, but, yeah, so, yeah, look, I know

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you're going to enjoy your, your little, little

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vacation and catching some, your, your favorite band.

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And, Yeah, and like, I said I'll probably do a little Star

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Trek stuff. So for folks who, who enjoy the Star

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Trek content on the, on the, on the channel, I'll be around

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for a little bit, to continue Strange New

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Worlds as it, as it works its way through its third season.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yep. All right, so we're

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gonna get down to business. we got Fantastic Four first

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steps to discuss. but before we do

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that, we're going to start with a Sarah Story time.

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Because I saw this movie.

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I went to the 4:00pm showing

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on Thursday in the same

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IMAX, theater

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as I did Superman.

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>> Will: Okay.

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>> Sarah : Same start time. I know. I already

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checked. Different lengths. I understand there are different

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lengths of movies, but.

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Okay, pull out the whiteboards if you need it.

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Pull out the notes from a few weeks ago when I talked about

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my horrible experience seeing Superman on

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imax. And I knew it going in,

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I knew it. I was looking at the times

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and I was thinking, I'm, like, it's

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IMAX 4 o'. Clock. It's going to be that same stupid

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theater. But this was the test. I was

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curious because I still have no idea what

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happened. So, same start

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time, same distance between

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where I left work

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in the theater. That hasn't changed.

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I do, I do think I left work

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about five minutes later.

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Than I did when I went to go see Superman.

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So that can factor in people's times. Okay.

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However, I did the exact same

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thing. Like bought tickets, went to the

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bathroom, went in theater. I was late.

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The movie had already started.

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But. But no worries. I walked in

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on the same clip that starts. It started every

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single trailer. So I didn't really care. I already

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knew sue was pregnant and gonna have a kid, so

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whatever. So. And I. And

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I've already, listened to people talk about the movie. I know

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I missed like, montage, so no

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big deal. Wasn't that late. Don't really care.

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Not important, so. But

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what is important is this

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movie. I got to leave. And

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I did stay to the very end credit because I

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looked it up and I'm like, oh, there's two credit

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mid credit scenes, There's a mid credit and then there's an end

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credit. Why the would you put that out there?

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Okay, that's a lie. That end credit

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is. Okay, I, I ain't

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sticking around for end credits anymore because they keep being

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the silly soft stuff. I'm. I'm doing the mid

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credit and I'm out of there. But

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regardless, when I left that

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theater, it was. It was just a little after six.

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Okay, so now let's rewind

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time and go back to my Superman

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experience. Okay. There's about a

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10 to 20 minute runtime difference

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between these two movies. And I did not

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say till the end of Superman credits, but this,

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this tells you how long and how

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many times they probably rewound that

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part and we had to sit through it. Okay.

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Because I did not get out of that movie until a

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little after seven. So,

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like, that is. That is

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how furious and frustrating

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and PTSD I have from.

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I was not making it up when I said

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it felt like we watched it

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so many times we could have memorized the entire

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opening scroll. I mean, it

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was. It was a lot.

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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Okay.

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>> Will: Well, at least, at least. Well, at least this

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time you didn't have all the

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technical problems that you had with.

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>> Sarah : Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

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>> Will: Like, so. So small victories.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. I, So. So there. There. It

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wasn't ne. I don't know what happened,

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but whatever they did, they fixed

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it. Or, or

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maybe the, the copy that we got

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a fantastic 4 didn't have a glitch in it. I don't know who's to

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blame here, but what it

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was just. It's just very similar.

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And, and that's really all. I will

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be comparing these two movies

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because I know that's what Everyone is doing.

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>> Will: Exactly, exactly. I will, I'll say

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whenever we get to the overall thoughts. I, I may or

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may not. I, I, I reserve the right to compare, but

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I am with you. There's been too much of that going on,

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and I'm gonna try my best not to do that.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. I will definitely have

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counterpoints if you do, because I, I don't,

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I don't understand comparison. yeah,

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otherwise neutral, Neutral field,

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but whatever.

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>> Will: I mean, basically, yeah, I mean, it's just these two

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films. The only thing I will say is

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we are not going to have any more superhero

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content for the rest of this year as far as films in the

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theater. So.

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>> Sarah : Yes.

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>> Will: Yeah. So that, that, that's my Superman.

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Fantastic Four comment. as far as comparing it

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to. Other than the fact they were released within the span of a couple

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weeks apart. But, you know, anyway, moving on,

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let's get, let's get to the, let's get to the music film.

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>> Sarah : Okay. Yeah, let's talk Reed Richards.

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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. So what did you think about Reed?

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>> Sarah : I, I thought it was fine. I thought he's fine. I,

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he, I found it ironic

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that the situation Reed finds himself

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in is basically the situation that Joel is

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in in season one of the last. It's

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the same thing, but Joel and Reed are very different

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people. Very different people. And, and arguably

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the circumstances are different, but,

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like, I, I thought that that

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was kind of hilarious. I also,

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just in terms of Pedro, I'm

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not Pedroed out. he, he,

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he didn't, it didn't bother me that I'm watching a

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Fantastic Four movie and I

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don't see Reed Richards, I see Pedro.

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But because despite knowing this

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man's face, and his face is prevalent

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everywhere, I still think

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he managed to do a

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good job. and it was a different take

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than I've, I've seen of this character.

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albeit there's not that much to compare against.

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And I thought, I thought it was overall fine

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in terms of,

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him and, and,

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he, he arguably had one of the

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grossest scenes that I've ever seen

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in a Marvel movie.

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Do you know what I'm talking about.

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>> Will: If it's the one? I'm thinking of him being

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almost pulled apart.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And by

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disgusting, I also mean horrifying.

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Just simply horrifying.

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>> Will: Okay, yes, that was, that was some CG

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that worked very well. I mean, as far as some of the

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other stretch effects, I mean, because, you know, because let's just

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face it. I mean, Reed Richards and, and the stretch

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abilities, I mean, these characters are

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true products of their time. When you think

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about the power set, you know, you have the stretchy man,

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you have a visible woman, you have, you know, flame

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guy and a walking rock. So.

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Yeah. But to see whenever

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I, I, I was, yeah, that, that,

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of the emotional moments for me in the film

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where I actually did have, like, where

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I could, you know, thinking back where I was like,

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oh, gosh, that was one of them. Yeah,

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where I was really like that. That

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was very effective. And the pain and the,

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and, and the, the CG did work very,

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very well. When Galactus was pulling, pulling

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Reed, you know, apart like, like that. And when,

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and especially like, even whenever his costume was starting to

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rip and stuff, I was like, oh, yeah, they, they, that was

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a good visceral moment. That was very effective in this

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film.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. And I, I, I can appreciate.

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And I pointed this out when you made me, when

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you forced me to watch at least one trailer, if not

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two trailers, and that I,

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that they, they didn't show, they showed maybe one

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scene of him stretching, but they, they didn't

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because like you said, it's a stupid

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power, but they,

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so in this movie, they hardly ever do.

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And when he does use it, it uses it.

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It makes sense in terms of what is going on.

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It's not a scapegoat because there is much

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more emphasis on his intelligence, which

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that's the way it should be. from what I understand

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about this character in the comics,

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he's the most intelligent person in all of the

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universe. So there they were more

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focused on setting that as a

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superpower and that as something

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to be fostered and to grow, especially

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as now he comes to terms

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with fatherhood. Now I do think

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that in terms of character,

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that's where it got a little bit like,

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like, okay, you guys are not doing the

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best job because I've seen Ben

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hold that baby more than you read.

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So. And I get it, I get it. I understand

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that he's, he doesn't recognize social cues

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and all of that stuff. Stuff. But at the same

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time, I just

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wish that there was better

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moments where you

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could really feel and, and

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the scene where he takes, the baby

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to Franklin to, like,

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the look at the,

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the apparatus he built to monitor

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him while he was still in Sue's belly.

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Yeah, I thought that was, scene was very good because of, how

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it ended. Like, I kept trying to

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see who you are, and now I'm gonna

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let you, let you show us

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who you are. Like I'm gonna let you grow up.

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And as good as writing as that is,

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it still fell flat. And I feel that way

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about a lot of emotional moments throughout this

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movie, but where I think the writing is

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good and I'm not necessarily 100%

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blaming performances, but

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I don't feel like the emotional,

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emotional beats hit the way

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that they should have and probably

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for thousands of different reasons.

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>> Will: But yeah, yeah, I agree. I mean,

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say that the first act or

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it took me a while to get emotionally invested

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into, into this film. And I don't know if I ever fully got

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fully emotionally invested into these

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characters. Especially like after, after,

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like it's been. I watched it also

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last Thursday.

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>> Will: And, and I, I, I

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haven't thought much about this

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movie afterwards. I mean I did an out of the

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theater reaction to it and, and I, you know, at

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thing I did like about the film was

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it, you know, and now

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that I'm thinking about, you know, at the time I was like right

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out of it, I was like, yeah, you know, the, you know

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that the run time, the hour 58,

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55, you know, it seemed, you know,

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you know, moved out. A good clip was very, very,

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very tight in, in with the

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direction and the pacing. But now

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as I have some days past a

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film, I think that actually was a

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detriment being too

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efficient with the pacing

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because I think it did leave

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something to be desired because I do, I, mean while I was

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watching the film, I was just like, I'm not really click, you know,

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I'm, I, I like these characters, but

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I don't feel for these characters. And, and, and now

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post film, I, I, it really is

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as we discussed it, I'm like, yeah, that it really,

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that tightness really there, there was a, it was

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a detriment to me to, for me to really

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feel something for, for this story.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. So you didn't get emotional when

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sue sacrificed herself?

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>> Will: No, not at all.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. Did. Was it because you

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instantly knew they were going to use Franklin?

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>> Will: I think that was, I mean,

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yeah, I mean I did. I, you know,

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so I will freely admit, as far as the

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Fantastic Four, I'm not well

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steeped in the lore as far as these

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characters at all. I mean I'm familiar with who they are.

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I remember the cartoon and but

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I, you know, but I have a couple comic books,

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you know, I think from, from the

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Silver Age that I got with, With the kit

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when I. When I got my first comic book set. But I

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mean, there, you know, but I'm not. I'm not a big

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fantastic forehead, so. But

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even that being said, I mean, the

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way things were being set up with this story,

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right, I. I knew that

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when Franklin touched her,

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somehow, some way he was going to bring her back.

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>> Sarah : Okay, let's. I just want to talk about this

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because, I'm usually very quick,

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and I'm not saying I got emotional,

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but the way they edited that

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sequence, I swear she was

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dead for a good two minutes. And I was just

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like. I was like, wow, they

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really. They really just killed her. Wow.

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Wow. It wasn't until he

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actually, like, started crying to get down

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and for like. Like dad, put me

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down on her that I was like, oh, yeah, yeah,

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Franklin's gonna bring her back. Like, it took. I

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didn't instantly think because, like

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yourself, I know nothing about. Especially

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Franklin. This is my introduction to him. I feel like

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I learned a lot more, but. And I'm very

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intrigued by this, kiddo. But

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I. In that. In that moment, I at

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first was just like, wow, that's. That's

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really brave of them see you to kill off sue like

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that. Like, no, bring her

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back.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : But I also. I.

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Even though that emotional beat didn't work, and it

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kind of was a, A scam

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of sorts of just like, well, why did we even

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kn. Need that in to begin with? I

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do think that overall the third act

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did not stop. Suffer as male

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as as many failings as

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past especially Marvel movies

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have. I don't think that the action

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got too,

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disjointed and the. The

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editing goes out the window and you don't know where people are.

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I think that they. For. For having at least

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four characters at play. And then Galactus

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as well as, As well as Franklin

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and then eventually Silver Surfer. I think

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they did a good job in terms of

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really setting the scene

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and making you understand where people

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were in relation to one another.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, I'd agree. I mean,

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this. One of the things that I did like about

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this film, even though I think the first act,

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when it didn't work as well for me. I mean,

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not that I wanted to have like a complete,

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We show them getting the powers and stuff. I mean, I like the montage. I

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thought that that worked really well. And.

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And it set. You know,

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it set the table as far as, like, here's, you

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know, here's the back using it. Using the

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television show, the Variety show to like,

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established in this world that these characters are, are

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known. They're established quantity. They

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know you know that, you know, they know their power

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set. They know their skill set. You know, we're not going

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in into like learning

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how the Johnny you know, is not so

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prickly as you know or not, you know.

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>> Sarah : Right. No, it's, it's more about

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setting the stage for how these,

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heroes, what they mean to the world.

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And that way when they go

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off, to, to defeat

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Galactus and come back and say

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we didn't defeat him, like,

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that's, that's where the,

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the, tension comes from. The, the

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conflict. because it's now

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the world that once loved you is

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you feels like you turned their, your

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back on them. Because now

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granted, it's to protect their own kid. So,

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so I, I, I agree. Like,

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yes. And no, I didn't watch the, the

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opening few minutes, but I,

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I already knew what their power set was and we've already

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seen the origin story or been told. And

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you, you don't need, you don't need to

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establish that for purposes of this story.

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It was more important to establish and

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really understand how

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beloved and how cherished

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these, figures are in this, not

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only in the United States, but across the world.

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Because eventually it turns into the

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world banning together.

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Granted again though, did

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not get emotional during Sue Storm's big speech

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about saying, hey, everyone, I know you want

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to take my child and kill him, but this is

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Franklin. He has a name. He is a living,

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breathing baby and I love him.

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Okay. Yeah, I just,

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I didn't, I didn't feel anything. It

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felt, it felt weird. And

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it, I think arguably

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one of the, one of the

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worst parts, like worst

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pieces of dialogue in the entire movie

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was that speech. It just, it

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didn't feel right. she,

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I, and I,

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I feel like with sue and Pedro

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or with sue and, Reed,

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their arguments and their tension

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throughout the movie was, was good

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because there wasn't a lot of dialogue.

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There was a lot of, like. I know what you're thinking.

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You know what I'm thinking? This and that, which

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felt like a, a

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relationship that has, like they've been

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together for a while. Like,

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like we don't have to watch it because just

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with their shorthand, we,

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we already get the context clues that these two

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have been through a lot together.

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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah. Completely agree. I mean, I think that

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was definitely that their relationship

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worked. As far as the chemistry

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between, Pedro and, Vanessa

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Kirby. I think it definitely, they did feel Like a real

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couple. They felt like a real, real marriage. I think

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she you know, she she going back.

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Sue understands Reed especially

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like with, with this. With the choices

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that, that they make and

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whenever they have that discussion about what,

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what. What to do in the

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situation and, and she knows that

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Reed even though he's, you know,

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he's. She knows him and she knows that where

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logically he unders. You know where he's

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going to go. From a logical

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standpoint, Franklin has to, you

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know, the decision is to get Franklin the galactus if

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that's going to save the Earth. Because you know that's, you know, the theme

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of families. One that is. That permeates through

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this and like you said, one of the strong things about

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the first act in particular was

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not only establishing that the,

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the. The first family but also how the world

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is with the exception of ah, one one country which

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they, they make a very good point of showing.

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>> Sarah : Which one m. you can say

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it will.

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>> Will: Will.

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>> Sarah : I don't know if you realize this is a spoiler discussion.

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>> Will: You can say yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. I know. I was just trying,

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I was trying to hold off to the, the mid credit for a while.

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But yeah, you

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Latavia. but And her being a

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diplomat. But to that point

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going back to us where I was going with that there,

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you know, the world is their extended family as well. And

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and so I think that was, that was

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an emotional beat that did work for me in, in the

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story.

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>> Sarah : Good. Yeah yeah, good good.

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>> Will: And also. Yeah, yeah, it did. It really did. Because.

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Because that will that, that at the core

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that is what this movie is about. And I think that was one.

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And so, so and

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I bought that and, and so to you

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know, and something that we were discussed as far as talking about that

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third act. That's why that third act works. So what

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works so well and it doesn't fall apart.

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One, because they don't over rely on the action. But two,

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they had built up this feeling of

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this is a family and we are, we are you know

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and setting. Setting things on 828

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versus 616 definitely

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makes us. It does add the

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element of stakes to, to the story. Even though we

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know at the end of the day they're going to, they're going to.

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They're going to solve this. This situation.

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I did, I did feel like okay, I did buy into

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that aspect of the story.

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>> Sarah : Right right.

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now we talked about the third act,

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that action and, and how good it

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was. there was another Action

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sequence. tied to a birth scene

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which we've. Because we watch House of Dragon, we're very familiar

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with burst scenes. Probably the latest verse scene

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ever.

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>> Will: Yes.

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>> Sarah : I, so, so I,

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think I would have enjoyed it better

517
00:24:42,220 --> 00:24:45,130
if I wasn't just thinking, thinking to myself

518
00:24:45,130 --> 00:24:47,250
the entire time, I'm just like,

519
00:24:48,130 --> 00:24:51,130
are we really supposed to believe? Like, are

520
00:24:51,130 --> 00:24:54,050
we really. I don't know. I had a very hard

521
00:24:54,130 --> 00:24:56,970
time with the birth aspect that it

522
00:24:56,970 --> 00:24:59,970
was distracting from. Probably all of the

523
00:24:59,970 --> 00:25:02,810
really cool stuff going on in terms of

524
00:25:02,810 --> 00:25:05,090
Johnny and Silver Surfer

525
00:25:05,410 --> 00:25:07,890
riding the, the

526
00:25:08,460 --> 00:25:11,220
molten ways, all of that. I mean, it

527
00:25:11,220 --> 00:25:13,780
was, it was a lot. It was cool. Cool. But

528
00:25:13,860 --> 00:25:16,420
simultaneously my mind was just like,

529
00:25:16,980 --> 00:25:19,620
but if, if, if the kid comes

530
00:25:19,620 --> 00:25:22,180
out, like, shouldn't blood be floating?

531
00:25:23,780 --> 00:25:26,700
>> Will: I was thinking the practical things of

532
00:25:26,700 --> 00:25:29,700
childbirth did. Yeah. So. Because especially when

533
00:25:30,020 --> 00:25:33,020
they kick off, she kicks off the pants in the spacesuit and it

534
00:25:33,020 --> 00:25:35,980
floats away. And also it's like, yeah,

535
00:25:35,980 --> 00:25:38,340
this is a very anti. This is a very sanitized

536
00:25:38,340 --> 00:25:39,100
birthday.

537
00:25:39,250 --> 00:25:42,130
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. This is a very, like, we know a

538
00:25:42,130 --> 00:25:44,930
five year old is gonna be in the audience and

539
00:25:45,170 --> 00:25:48,170
I'm just like, okay, just, just gotta get through

540
00:25:48,170 --> 00:25:49,570
it. Just gotta get through it.

541
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,670
>> Will: yep, yep.

542
00:25:50,670 --> 00:25:53,470
>> Sarah : Yeah. It's so funny.

543
00:25:53,470 --> 00:25:55,630
Like a part of me in,

544
00:25:56,190 --> 00:25:58,910
like, I know that it was very good action

545
00:25:59,070 --> 00:26:02,070
sequence, but the logical part is kind

546
00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:04,510
of like, I don't, I don't know if this was

547
00:26:04,510 --> 00:26:06,900
entirely necessary. especially

548
00:26:07,860 --> 00:26:10,820
because we never circled back around to the fact

549
00:26:10,820 --> 00:26:13,780
of how pregnant was she before getting

550
00:26:13,780 --> 00:26:16,660
on that ship. And is anybody

551
00:26:16,660 --> 00:26:19,580
ever gonna go back to Galactus and be like, why did you speed

552
00:26:19,580 --> 00:26:21,939
up the birth process? Yeah,

553
00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:25,340
but, yeah, yeah.

554
00:26:25,340 --> 00:26:28,100
>> Will: I mean, whenever she was like, whenever they were Galactus and

555
00:26:28,180 --> 00:26:30,820
her water breaks in that, in that scene, I was.

556
00:26:30,820 --> 00:26:33,810
>> Sarah : Just like, okay, her

557
00:26:33,810 --> 00:26:36,730
water broke after Galactus, like

558
00:26:36,730 --> 00:26:39,530
quote unquote touched her. Yeah, like

559
00:26:39,530 --> 00:26:42,490
he did something. I don't think she was

560
00:26:42,490 --> 00:26:44,090
nine months pregnant at that.

561
00:26:44,090 --> 00:26:46,930
>> Will: I don't think so either. I did, I didn't take it that way either. I, was like,

562
00:26:46,930 --> 00:26:49,690
whoa, this is a pre, this is a premature situation here.

563
00:26:49,690 --> 00:26:51,570
Whenever I, I was.

564
00:26:52,290 --> 00:26:52,730
Yeah.

565
00:26:52,730 --> 00:26:55,490
>> Sarah : The most realistic aspect of that

566
00:26:55,490 --> 00:26:58,290
entire thing was when she yelled at Johnny

567
00:26:58,290 --> 00:27:01,170
to go kill Silver Surfer. I think that was

568
00:27:01,170 --> 00:27:03,970
the most realistic point of that sequence.

569
00:27:05,970 --> 00:27:08,810
Okay, you are giving birth because you just

570
00:27:08,810 --> 00:27:11,810
sent him to kill someone. And yes,

571
00:27:11,810 --> 00:27:14,530
everyone should have noted how excited he

572
00:27:14,530 --> 00:27:17,500
was to hear the word kill. that was a

573
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:18,860
bit, that was a bit much.

574
00:27:19,180 --> 00:27:21,980
>> Will: Yeah, Yeah. I will say though, that

575
00:27:21,980 --> 00:27:24,780
whole sequence, that was so as I mentioned, there were A couple

576
00:27:24,780 --> 00:27:27,690
points where I did like, lean forward in my seat and,

577
00:27:27,930 --> 00:27:30,770
And. And the whole Galactus, the whole

578
00:27:30,770 --> 00:27:33,770
introduction of whenever we do

579
00:27:34,650 --> 00:27:37,570
go to his world and stuff. That, that, that's what

580
00:27:37,570 --> 00:27:40,370
I really. I think that was the point in the film where I

581
00:27:40,370 --> 00:27:43,329
was like, I, I got engaged because I was

582
00:27:43,329 --> 00:27:45,930
like. I said the first act, I was smooth. But

583
00:27:46,410 --> 00:27:49,330
whenever they, when they went on the mission and,

584
00:27:49,330 --> 00:27:52,130
and we see the Scott. The size

585
00:27:52,130 --> 00:27:54,750
and Scott scale and scope of Galactus,

586
00:27:55,390 --> 00:27:58,160
that was like. Okay, I'm,

587
00:27:58,110 --> 00:28:00,710
That. That was the moment for me where I was just like,

588
00:28:00,710 --> 00:28:02,830
okay, I, I like this film.

589
00:28:04,270 --> 00:28:07,260
I'm on board now. because, you know,

590
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:10,440
not only the voice work of, Ralph Ensign, Innocent,

591
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,390
who, you know, for. For it,

592
00:28:13,110 --> 00:28:15,980
but, But just everything around it and then the whole course,

593
00:28:15,980 --> 00:28:18,910
the whole sequence where, When. When they are on

594
00:28:18,910 --> 00:28:21,740
the event horizon with Black Hole, just. And.

595
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,740
And just a proper like very

596
00:28:24,740 --> 00:28:27,460
Star Trek. Very Star Trek. And the

597
00:28:27,460 --> 00:28:30,300
warp. It was very Star Trek. It totally was.

598
00:28:30,460 --> 00:28:33,300
And even the, the weapons, like, you know, bending

599
00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:36,300
around, how they should have warped. I mean, everything about it just

600
00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:39,300
really just I, that. That was a scene

601
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:40,940
that I really did appreciate.

602
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:44,420
>> Sarah : Yeah, Yeah, I, I think I even thought

603
00:28:44,420 --> 00:28:47,260
about that while watching it where I was like,

604
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:51,020
will has to be digging this part because I get Star

605
00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:54,020
Trek vibes from here. And

606
00:28:54,020 --> 00:28:56,780
I think that with

607
00:28:56,780 --> 00:28:57,780
Galactus,

608
00:28:59,620 --> 00:29:01,380
I think that,

609
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,800
in. In other things like Eternals,

610
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,990
we've seen these, These villains that

611
00:29:08,990 --> 00:29:10,710
are like

612
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,960
three or four skyscrapers tall,

613
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,720
larger than the world, and all of this.

614
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,520
This daunting to bring them into live

615
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,680
action has never felt as

616
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,640
menacing and as.

617
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,800
No, no, no. There's.

618
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,200
There's. There's more to this.

619
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,240
Like, Like, I, I like the part where

620
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,240
he, he admits I was a humanoid once

621
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,200
and then this happened. That there, there's.

622
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,320
I, I can appre. I think that for the

623
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,240
first time with one of these kind

624
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,840
of characters, these very godlike

625
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,400
beings that are literally

626
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,360
larger than life, they finally

627
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,320
made it work because of the use

628
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,960
of. Arguably, I would argue the use

629
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,840
of Shalabal, Silver Surfer,

630
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,480
because we spent so much time with her

631
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,920
that that allowed him to be.

632
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,480
But it was very straightforward. It wasn't like, oh, we

633
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,840
wait till the third act to get revealed.

634
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,040
Like, it wasn't that the big boss, yes,

635
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,440
came at the end, but we also got a little

636
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,280
sneak peek because the

637
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,040
Fantastic Four for the first time needed to lose

638
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,230
or come, to stalemate because

639
00:30:31,790 --> 00:30:34,590
it was more of a decision about their child.

640
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,720
and which plays into all of their fears

641
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,800
that they even had before Galactus

642
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,520
even came or Shallow Ball even

643
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,480
came. So I think. I think that

644
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,239
that is another strength of this movie and

645
00:30:51,239 --> 00:30:54,090
looking back on it, years down the line,

646
00:30:54,250 --> 00:30:56,570
is that the. The villain works.

647
00:30:57,050 --> 00:30:59,530
It's not the best. We've seen better.

648
00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:03,540
But for purposes of this

649
00:31:03,540 --> 00:31:05,860
story, the villain

650
00:31:06,260 --> 00:31:09,210
works. and it is

651
00:31:09,210 --> 00:31:11,770
not too distracting and

652
00:31:11,850 --> 00:31:14,530
is also like. Like I said at the

653
00:31:14,530 --> 00:31:17,450
beginning, gave us. And the only reason

654
00:31:17,450 --> 00:31:20,330
why I find him terrifying is because of the way

655
00:31:20,330 --> 00:31:21,690
he stretched Reed

656
00:31:23,130 --> 00:31:26,130
up until then. Did not really. And then

657
00:31:26,130 --> 00:31:28,650
the moment he stretched, I'm like, okay, you're legit.

658
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,520
Get it. Got it. Good.

659
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,120
>> Will: Yeah. Yep.

660
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,420
>> Sarah : And I like the. The whole.

661
00:31:35,860 --> 00:31:38,650
He did feel like he was. He was one

662
00:31:38,650 --> 00:31:41,450
step ahead because they come up with a

663
00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:43,530
plan to teleport the world

664
00:31:44,490 --> 00:31:47,370
millions of light years away. Right. To

665
00:31:47,370 --> 00:31:50,250
move the Earth. And then. And

666
00:31:50,250 --> 00:31:52,650
they do the. They do the trap

667
00:31:52,890 --> 00:31:55,460
and they. They remove the

668
00:31:55,770 --> 00:31:58,650
Franklin and replace it with a fake. And

669
00:31:58,650 --> 00:32:01,210
yet. And right. As usual,

670
00:32:01,450 --> 00:32:03,930
right. What? It's only one step more

671
00:32:04,170 --> 00:32:07,010
he figures it out and goes after the real

672
00:32:07,010 --> 00:32:09,610
Franklin. So I can

673
00:32:09,610 --> 00:32:10,810
appreciate how

674
00:32:12,410 --> 00:32:15,360
he, The threat they

675
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,320
managed to show, then

676
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,290
hide and. And then have him

677
00:32:21,290 --> 00:32:24,010
like really be the Big Bad at the

678
00:32:24,010 --> 00:32:26,280
end. and they did it in a way

679
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,920
where you didn't get too,

680
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,520
bored or.

681
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,600
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

682
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,880
agree. Yeah. I mean, I. Yeah, I think that was.

683
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,840
That was the thing that did work for me

684
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,360
as well as far as that with. With the.

685
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,670
With the fight scene as well. That he. He did figure

686
00:32:45,670 --> 00:32:48,310
it out. He, you know, he. Because I mean, if I recall

687
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:51,300
Galactus actually, I don't know if

688
00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:54,180
you mentioned this in the movie or. I know it just

689
00:32:54,180 --> 00:32:56,780
from. Just other. Other works, but,

690
00:32:57,300 --> 00:32:59,790
he. He predates this

691
00:32:59,790 --> 00:33:00,390
universe.

692
00:33:00,870 --> 00:33:02,790
>> Sarah : Yeah, they m. Said that in the movie.

693
00:33:03,030 --> 00:33:05,450
>> Will: Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. so,

694
00:33:05,850 --> 00:33:08,490
you know, so. So it makes sense that

695
00:33:08,570 --> 00:33:11,570
even though Reed currently is like the. The

696
00:33:11,570 --> 00:33:14,490
most brilliant being in the universe right now,

697
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,480
it would take someone who has that extra level

698
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,520
to be able to beat the smartest man in the

699
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:22,760
world.

700
00:33:24,370 --> 00:33:27,370
>> Will: And. And so that was. That's also what makes

701
00:33:27,370 --> 00:33:29,810
it work. And also for me, like as

702
00:33:30,449 --> 00:33:33,330
gave the film some stakes that sometimes

703
00:33:34,130 --> 00:33:37,090
are. That are missing and, and make Galactus in

704
00:33:37,090 --> 00:33:39,890
addition to the stretch that we talked about, but

705
00:33:39,890 --> 00:33:42,790
also just made him very, very threatening as well.

706
00:33:42,790 --> 00:33:45,710
That. Oh yeah, you know. Yeah. He.

707
00:33:45,790 --> 00:33:48,790
He saw through Reed's 3.3's plan in his

708
00:33:48,790 --> 00:33:49,150
trap.

709
00:33:49,630 --> 00:33:52,550
>> Sarah : Yeah. But. But I. And I

710
00:33:52,550 --> 00:33:54,910
don't think it was Reed who beat

711
00:33:54,990 --> 00:33:57,710
Galactus. It's Johnny who beat Galactus

712
00:33:58,030 --> 00:34:00,790
because the. And that, that's

713
00:34:00,790 --> 00:34:03,630
another thing that took me by surprise. I

714
00:34:03,630 --> 00:34:06,550
thought I was gonna hate Johnny just because of

715
00:34:06,550 --> 00:34:09,110
the haircut. Joseph Quinn is a

716
00:34:09,110 --> 00:34:12,110
fabulous actor. Loves him in Stranger

717
00:34:12,110 --> 00:34:15,030
Things. That haircut, my God. I

718
00:34:15,030 --> 00:34:17,750
will say though, while watching the movie, the

719
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:20,750
lighting worked. It was perfectly fine. I got

720
00:34:20,750 --> 00:34:23,710
more offended by it during the previews than I did

721
00:34:23,710 --> 00:34:26,270
while watching the film. Mainly because

722
00:34:26,830 --> 00:34:29,250
Johnny had, stuff to do

723
00:34:30,130 --> 00:34:32,810
and more so than I've seen in

724
00:34:32,810 --> 00:34:35,210
any other movie. Because

725
00:34:37,610 --> 00:34:40,410
yes, he, it's. I love that line.

726
00:34:40,730 --> 00:34:43,730
Oh, you guys think. Because Johnny loves space and

727
00:34:43,730 --> 00:34:46,570
Johnny loves hot girls or naked girls.

728
00:34:46,650 --> 00:34:48,250
Like I have a crush.

729
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,920
one plus one equals two. So.

730
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,520
And there was that. But at the same time,

731
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:00,690
while Reed is doing his thing and

732
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,760
other things, I appreciate how

733
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,920
they, and they even started this way before

734
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,000
Shalabal even appeared. With the

735
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,920
messages and the intrigue behind it

736
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,480
and the subtleness that

737
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,720
Johnny is clearly still trying to

738
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:22,560
prove to his brother in law his value.

739
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:23,920
>> Will: Yeah.

740
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,020
>> Sarah : And, and, and it's more

741
00:35:27,020 --> 00:35:29,540
so to even read than sue because

742
00:35:29,540 --> 00:35:32,260
throughout it sue checks in on him

743
00:35:32,340 --> 00:35:35,180
and he shows her and you can see that

744
00:35:35,180 --> 00:35:38,010
relationship. but I like that

745
00:35:38,010 --> 00:35:40,730
there wasn't tension between the siblings.

746
00:35:40,810 --> 00:35:43,610
There was subtle tension between

747
00:35:43,610 --> 00:35:46,490
him and Reid, but not because like, oh,

748
00:35:46,490 --> 00:35:48,730
you're married to my sister. It's more

749
00:35:49,370 --> 00:35:52,330
as though I appreciate you

750
00:35:52,330 --> 00:35:55,160
because of your brilliance. I just need

751
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:57,790
you to to see what I can do

752
00:35:57,870 --> 00:36:00,510
and to make HM me feel value.

753
00:36:00,750 --> 00:36:03,230
And I, I really like that.

754
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,120
and I, and I, and I loved

755
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,240
like one of my favorite scenes. And I,

756
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,960
and I thought this as soon as I saw it is

757
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,260
the herald of

758
00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:19,430
when Shalabal first appears on Earth.

759
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:22,070
Right. And, and

760
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:24,550
yeah, we've seen that scene in the trailers.

761
00:36:25,150 --> 00:36:28,060
but that's not the part that like struck me. The part

762
00:36:28,060 --> 00:36:30,980
was when Johnny goes and chases after her

763
00:36:31,380 --> 00:36:34,340
and then he goes out and then reaches.

764
00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:37,300
Grabs this surfboard and,

765
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:40,070
and she says that to him, to

766
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,200
die with yours in her language.

767
00:36:44,010 --> 00:36:46,570
And I, that was just.

768
00:36:47,770 --> 00:36:50,570
Wow. I don't know. The,

769
00:36:50,810 --> 00:36:53,530
the. I got

770
00:36:53,690 --> 00:36:56,570
goosebumps. And it's a

771
00:36:56,570 --> 00:36:59,290
very similar sequence. And I don't know if you're

772
00:36:59,290 --> 00:37:02,090
gonna know where I'm going with this. I don't know if you will

773
00:37:02,890 --> 00:37:05,810
but think about into

774
00:37:05,810 --> 00:37:08,490
the spider verse, the

775
00:37:08,490 --> 00:37:11,350
jumping sequence. Yes, yes,

776
00:37:11,350 --> 00:37:13,910
yes, yes. That

777
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:17,430
those two, for some reason, the way they

778
00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:19,910
present it, it's a very

779
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:22,550
like, wow. Like

780
00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:24,790
feels straight from a comic book.

781
00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:27,870
>> Will: Yep. The words right of my mouth. Yep.

782
00:37:27,870 --> 00:37:30,630
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah, it's just so. And then the.

783
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:33,870
And. And I think that this is

784
00:37:33,870 --> 00:37:36,710
why I was on Johnny's side when he was trying to

785
00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:39,310
convince the others, because she did Julie

786
00:37:39,310 --> 00:37:41,910
Garner for. For all the CGI

787
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:44,750
makeup she had, she broke through that

788
00:37:44,750 --> 00:37:47,470
makeup. I was worried about that. Like, I was like,

789
00:37:47,470 --> 00:37:49,790
Julia. Julia Gardner is great.

790
00:37:50,270 --> 00:37:53,200
And, they don't give her a lot. I argue.

791
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,640
I would argue they probably could have given her more. But

792
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,480
whatever the. The. What

793
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,800
they do, and especially in that moment,

794
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:05,160
that moment is why I can believe at

795
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,140
the end she. She turns.

796
00:38:08,540 --> 00:38:11,020
Because, you know, right from there, like,

797
00:38:11,340 --> 00:38:13,660
she. There's something else going on with her.

798
00:38:14,540 --> 00:38:17,300
Like, she's not as big much of a

799
00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:20,290
servant as that she want, would want you to believe.

800
00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:23,970
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, I. Yeah, I. I completely agree.

801
00:38:23,970 --> 00:38:26,610
And. And. And I think that's, you know, a lot of folks,

802
00:38:27,090 --> 00:38:29,970
some of the workers howling

803
00:38:30,130 --> 00:38:33,090
and all the interwebs about the gender swap

804
00:38:33,090 --> 00:38:36,010
and stuff. But to that point, I mean, I think

805
00:38:36,730 --> 00:38:39,650
they did it to set up several

806
00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:42,530
things, one of which you. Which you just. What you just

807
00:38:42,530 --> 00:38:45,530
shared. I mean, I think that that was part of why they had

808
00:38:45,530 --> 00:38:48,289
to, you know, make that change in order for this

809
00:38:48,289 --> 00:38:50,330
character to work in the context of this film.

810
00:38:50,970 --> 00:38:53,450
>> Sarah : So is it a gender swap?

811
00:38:54,170 --> 00:38:56,810
Because from what I understand, SH.

812
00:38:56,970 --> 00:38:59,930
Ball is a legit character from a run of

813
00:38:59,930 --> 00:39:02,340
comics, so. No.

814
00:39:03,380 --> 00:39:06,100
Like, yes. Silver Surfer. The.

815
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:09,300
The one. The main M. Silver Neil

816
00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:12,340
Gam or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

817
00:39:12,340 --> 00:39:15,340
He. He. We know, but she's his

818
00:39:15,340 --> 00:39:17,860
wife. And in a version of events,

819
00:39:18,020 --> 00:39:19,460
she becomes a Silver.

820
00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:22,900
>> Will: Yeah, yeah. It's. Yeah, I'm just. Yeah, it's just. It's just.

821
00:39:23,620 --> 00:39:26,460
>> Sarah : I know, I know. I just. I just want to bring

822
00:39:26,460 --> 00:39:29,210
that up because if people are listening

823
00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:32,130
and don't know about that, I found that when

824
00:39:32,130 --> 00:39:34,730
I learned about that, I was just like, well, that goes.

825
00:39:35,130 --> 00:39:38,010
Who cares about gender swap? Ah, that's not a gender swap in my

826
00:39:38,010 --> 00:39:40,640
book. That's. I, we're using this version of

827
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,520
Events. And did you hear about this? This is what I

828
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,240
found so interesting about that run of

829
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:48,920
comics when she was Silver Surfer.

830
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,640
Do you know who was? Galactus.

831
00:39:53,890 --> 00:39:54,770
>> Will: No, who was it?

832
00:39:54,930 --> 00:39:57,090
>> Sarah : Franklin. Ah,

833
00:39:58,050 --> 00:40:00,130
so. So a lot of the really

834
00:40:00,690 --> 00:40:02,530
big nerds and,

835
00:40:03,380 --> 00:40:05,280
lovers of Fantastic Four,

836
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,120
like, they. They got a lot

837
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,760
out of the fact that this movie,

838
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,160
like Franklin appears and.

839
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:14,720
>> Will: Right.

840
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,800
>> Sarah : Silver Surfer, you're not getting Neil.

841
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,600
You're getting Shala Ball. So, yeah,

842
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,760
yeah. So it. I. I found that to be

843
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,550
very interesting because, yeah, I may

844
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:28,470
not get all of these references,

845
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:32,230
but when they work for the real

846
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:34,950
Die Hards. The Die Hards will tell me

847
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:36,950
what to. What I need to understand.

848
00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:40,470
And it just proves to me that

849
00:40:40,630 --> 00:40:43,550
despite everything that's happened in the last few

850
00:40:43,550 --> 00:40:46,440
years with mcu, they still

851
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,800
got people pulling stuff out.

852
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,920
They. They don't care. They're just

853
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,760
like, ah, well, we're gonna bury this, and

854
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,560
it's gonna. 90% of the audience

855
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,480
won't understand. But, you know, when the people who. The

856
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,360
10% who do know, they will

857
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,080
tell the masses, and then the masses will start to

858
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:08,720
appreciate.

859
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,480
>> Will: Yep, yep, yep. I, I, I, I do appreciate

860
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,990
that. I do. yeah, because like I said, I, I.

861
00:41:15,810 --> 00:41:18,770
This is the. As I said earlier, this is one

862
00:41:18,770 --> 00:41:21,610
space where I don't have very deep knowledge

863
00:41:21,610 --> 00:41:23,810
at all. So I am. I am learning as I go.

864
00:41:24,050 --> 00:41:26,850
>> Sarah : Yeah, definitely. And I don't. I don't want

865
00:41:26,930 --> 00:41:29,570
to. I want to find out as.

866
00:41:29,730 --> 00:41:31,410
I want to find these little

867
00:41:31,730 --> 00:41:34,650
intricacies as Feige brings

868
00:41:34,650 --> 00:41:37,400
them in. and

869
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,440
my. Okay, this brings me to

870
00:41:41,490 --> 00:41:44,210
arguably my. My

871
00:41:44,210 --> 00:41:46,850
low point of this discussion,

872
00:41:46,850 --> 00:41:48,690
because I. I love

873
00:41:49,250 --> 00:41:52,050
Yvonne Moss Bakarak. Okay,

874
00:41:52,290 --> 00:41:55,250
probably just butchered his name, but whatever, cousin.

875
00:41:55,250 --> 00:41:56,290
We know him. we love him.

876
00:41:56,689 --> 00:41:59,250
>> Will: We love him. Yep.

877
00:41:59,330 --> 00:42:01,890
>> Sarah : And I, I did. I liked his performance.

878
00:42:02,450 --> 00:42:02,850
However,

879
00:42:05,890 --> 00:42:08,770
they did not utilize this guy at

880
00:42:08,770 --> 00:42:10,940
all. Okay. Ben

881
00:42:11,020 --> 00:42:13,900
hardly had an arc. And,

882
00:42:14,060 --> 00:42:17,060
and granted, the whole. I don't like the way

883
00:42:17,060 --> 00:42:20,060
I look, I. We. We've seen it a few different

884
00:42:20,140 --> 00:42:23,020
times. It didn't seem like they were going to do anything else

885
00:42:23,020 --> 00:42:25,659
with it, but I feel.

886
00:42:25,820 --> 00:42:28,500
I feel just like he was

887
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:31,460
underserved as a character. Granted, when

888
00:42:31,460 --> 00:42:33,930
he, he did have really good chemistry

889
00:42:34,250 --> 00:42:36,410
whenever he was interacting with Johnny,

890
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,200
because it wasn't that, like, oh,

891
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,760
you're ugly. Like, like, it wasn't them

892
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,760
butting heads. It did feel like brothers.

893
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,280
They did feel like, oh, these guys,

894
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,479
they pick on each other. But at the same

895
00:42:52,479 --> 00:42:55,200
time, when mole man comes in and

896
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,890
starts packing, picking on Johnny,

897
00:42:58,850 --> 00:43:01,650
you hear. You hear Ben say, no, no, no,

898
00:43:01,650 --> 00:43:02,450
you're handsome.

899
00:43:06,930 --> 00:43:09,910
He's like, I. Who can pick on Johnny for the way he

900
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:10,670
looks? Okay.

901
00:43:11,150 --> 00:43:13,550
>> Will: Yep, Yep. Yeah, but, yeah, I agree.

902
00:43:13,870 --> 00:43:16,730
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I think, you know, because they,

903
00:43:16,730 --> 00:43:19,300
you know, I, I agree that, you know, that there were.

904
00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:22,500
I mean, like, at the beginning of the story, he.

905
00:43:22,580 --> 00:43:25,460
He was the one whenever sue

906
00:43:26,340 --> 00:43:29,300
came out with sue and recame down the stairs

907
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:31,460
and, you know, he was

908
00:43:31,940 --> 00:43:34,700
perceptive enough to realize that she was pregnant and all

909
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:37,590
that. So he had, you know, so there were a little. There were

910
00:43:37,590 --> 00:43:40,590
nuggets of moments but, but overall,

911
00:43:40,590 --> 00:43:43,510
I agree. He, he did seem underserved. And of course the

912
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:45,390
biggest one was the

913
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:49,870
with his flirting, the

914
00:43:49,870 --> 00:43:52,640
flirt, the back and forth with, Natasha Leon's character,

915
00:43:52,590 --> 00:43:55,550
Rachel, that, that, that was just

916
00:43:55,550 --> 00:43:58,390
so under baked. And I'm just like at that at

917
00:43:58,390 --> 00:44:01,110
this point, this is where, you know, going back to what I was saying earlier

918
00:44:01,110 --> 00:44:04,080
about like it was. There was. It was edited

919
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,760
to the point where this is where it sacrificed

920
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,600
this. That was one story beat that. Where it did

921
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,520
sack that. That the tightness sacrificed good

922
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,320
story and good character development for the. For. For Ben.

923
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,600
>> Sarah : See, and the thing is, we'll never know

924
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,720
because I, I do agree. I agree

925
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,440
that this was clearly edited

926
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,760
there. They. They did not hold back

927
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,410
with that knife. And because of that,

928
00:44:30,570 --> 00:44:33,330
we will never know if they made the right decision

929
00:44:33,330 --> 00:44:36,170
or the wrong decision because sometimes when

930
00:44:36,170 --> 00:44:39,170
they do leave stuff in, we're like, well, he could have trimmed

931
00:44:39,170 --> 00:44:39,450
that.

932
00:44:42,170 --> 00:44:44,890
>> Will: Yeah. For example, I know there was, they said they had.

933
00:44:45,050 --> 00:44:47,930
John Malovich was supposed to be in the Red. The Red Ghost,

934
00:44:47,930 --> 00:44:50,890
I believe was supposed to be a part of this story. But in the context

935
00:44:50,890 --> 00:44:51,930
of the, of the film,

936
00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:56,480
that made sense to me that why they trimmed that

937
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,400
out. But it could have some more stuff here with Ben. I

938
00:44:59,400 --> 00:44:59,920
mean they really.

939
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,280
>> Sarah : Oh yeah. He could have had

940
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,530
a better arc. Like, we just got

941
00:45:05,530 --> 00:45:08,410
done talking about Johnny and the utilization of

942
00:45:08,410 --> 00:45:11,370
Johnny. They didn't utilize Ben to the full

943
00:45:11,370 --> 00:45:14,330
extent. And that's why for me,

944
00:45:14,570 --> 00:45:17,250
as much as I, I love this

945
00:45:17,250 --> 00:45:20,130
actor and the CGI did not bother me

946
00:45:20,130 --> 00:45:22,980
at all with Ben. and

947
00:45:22,980 --> 00:45:25,900
you know what? I'll just say it now. This is going to

948
00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:28,820
be a first because I already heard it in

949
00:45:28,820 --> 00:45:30,780
the way will phrase some things earlier.

950
00:45:31,530 --> 00:45:34,470
the. None of the CGI bothered me throughout this

951
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:36,790
movie, and that includes little baby.

952
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:40,230
It did not bother me at all.

953
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:45,510
>> Will: Wow. Mark this moment, y'. All. We're at the 45

954
00:45:45,830 --> 00:45:48,610
minute sec mark of our. Of our review

955
00:45:48,610 --> 00:45:51,490
here, and I think this is a cena nerd first. While we've been doing

956
00:45:51,490 --> 00:45:54,450
this together now since 2017 with, with me

957
00:45:54,450 --> 00:45:57,410
and Sarah where I heard her that the CGI did not bother

958
00:45:57,490 --> 00:45:57,890
her.

959
00:45:58,370 --> 00:46:01,330
>> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. And did it bother

960
00:46:01,330 --> 00:46:03,090
you or did it not bother you?

961
00:46:03,330 --> 00:46:06,330
>> Will: It did not. Actually. It worked for me. The, the, the aesthetic

962
00:46:06,330 --> 00:46:09,130
for this film. Really. I, I really

963
00:46:09,130 --> 00:46:11,740
enjoyed it. I, I did. I mean it's, it's really,

964
00:46:12,140 --> 00:46:14,940
you know, even from, you know, from the, from the. Get with the Marvel

965
00:46:14,940 --> 00:46:17,800
Studios. I don't

966
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,640
know. So did you watch it on imax?

967
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,960
>> Sarah : Or Well, I

968
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,800
told a very important story and that

969
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,000
was.

970
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,480
>> Will: Yes, you did. You did.

971
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,840
>> Sarah : Key details. Are you kidding?

972
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,640
>> Will: You did. I know, I know. Just the case post

973
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,480
dropped. Yeah, I, I had, I had a, I had a senior moment

974
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:35,800
there.

975
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,060
Yeah. but, but no but, but whenever they had the

976
00:46:41,060 --> 00:46:43,820
countdown and they like went into the,

977
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,400
into the, the beginning of the film,

978
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,560
the whole, the whole aesthetic really just like

979
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,960
I was like, I, I, I really like this retro,

980
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,960
you know, we're in, in the 60s, but you know, that time,

981
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,000
even though it's a modern story, but we're still

982
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,400
kept the 60 aesthetic. And

983
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,640
61 I think is when the story starts and, and

984
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,484
that at least with this backstory and we're in 64,

985
00:47:08,662 --> 00:47:11,400
64, 65. When, when the story

986
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,070
happens. And I just really, really, really

987
00:47:14,070 --> 00:47:16,880
liked it. it was just the,

988
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:17,600
the get the.

989
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,430
>> Sarah : Yeah, because, because it's the same, it's the

990
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:23,470
same aesthetic that they used in Loki.

991
00:47:24,110 --> 00:47:24,990
>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

992
00:47:26,590 --> 00:47:29,040
>> Sarah : Art person, and designer and everything.

993
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,080
>> Will: And we, and also.

994
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:31,680
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

995
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,760
>> Will: Loki. And also, the, you know, of course

996
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,480
Matt Shackman who directed WandaVision too, was that same

997
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,290
sitcom. you know, he did, he, he's very comfortable

998
00:47:40,810 --> 00:47:43,050
and of course with shooting

999
00:47:44,490 --> 00:47:47,370
those types of scenes and the color gradient and all that kind of stuff

1000
00:47:47,370 --> 00:47:50,010
because like you said, they use the same, same

1001
00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:52,930
production folks and same behind the scenes folks with it

1002
00:47:52,930 --> 00:47:53,930
and it shows.

1003
00:47:54,410 --> 00:47:57,370
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, it, I, I, I think

1004
00:47:57,610 --> 00:48:00,450
in terms of production and I knew

1005
00:48:00,450 --> 00:48:02,250
this even going in. I think

1006
00:48:03,130 --> 00:48:06,090
overall I wasn't expecting a lot out of this movie.

1007
00:48:06,090 --> 00:48:09,080
Okay. Yeah, it really wasn't. And I, and I,

1008
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,080
I think that's why I enjoyed it.

1009
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,000
Is it my favorite? No. Am I,

1010
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,440
am I like, oh my God, I want to talk about A,

1011
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,080
B, C and D. No. Have I

1012
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:24,080
like you brought up before? Have I thought much about this movie

1013
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,920
since watching it? No, but I do

1014
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,800
know while watching it I was

1015
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,360
like, okay, let's go CGI

1016
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:33,000
baby

1017
00:48:36,130 --> 00:48:38,610
man, whatever.

1018
00:48:38,930 --> 00:48:41,930
Yeah, I was there. I was on board. And you

1019
00:48:41,930 --> 00:48:44,810
know, I had some questioning moments, especially during

1020
00:48:44,810 --> 00:48:47,570
the birth scene, but whatever, we move on from it.

1021
00:48:48,210 --> 00:48:50,610
And, and overall, I mean

1022
00:48:50,690 --> 00:48:52,530
it's, it's a summer

1023
00:48:52,850 --> 00:48:55,730
blockbuster comic book genre movie,

1024
00:48:55,730 --> 00:48:58,610
so I have no, I'm not mad at this movie

1025
00:48:58,690 --> 00:49:00,850
whatsoever. And I think that

1026
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,640
aesthetically, like my big expectation

1027
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,080
was mainly that about the

1028
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,040
directing and the art design and

1029
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,760
how the, the cinematography. Just

1030
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,660
because I, that that was one of

1031
00:49:16,660 --> 00:49:19,420
the big strengths of Loki. And as you

1032
00:49:19,420 --> 00:49:21,620
brought up WandaVision, and,

1033
00:49:22,340 --> 00:49:25,260
and so, so maybe that's why it

1034
00:49:25,260 --> 00:49:27,800
also felt

1035
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,840
so familiar yet new.

1036
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,360
Yeah, because you do you. You have seen

1037
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,560
this style before in

1038
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,570
this, in this world,

1039
00:49:40,570 --> 00:49:43,370
if you will. And, and

1040
00:49:43,450 --> 00:49:45,370
yet we're. We're getting some

1041
00:49:45,770 --> 00:49:48,490
quasi new characters and a story

1042
00:49:48,570 --> 00:49:51,370
and something you put on the rundown is, is

1043
00:49:51,370 --> 00:49:53,850
this the story start of a soft reboot

1044
00:49:54,250 --> 00:49:57,010
in of the MCU and in phase

1045
00:49:57,010 --> 00:49:57,850
six? And

1046
00:49:59,930 --> 00:50:02,850
I mean, sure, but why does

1047
00:50:02,850 --> 00:50:05,490
it matter? Like, Like, I. I think

1048
00:50:05,490 --> 00:50:08,380
everyone's, I just want to move on from phases. Okay.

1049
00:50:08,860 --> 00:50:11,660
This is a movie. Clearly it's leading

1050
00:50:11,660 --> 00:50:14,380
into Doomsday. Based on the mid credit scene

1051
00:50:14,860 --> 00:50:17,580
and everything. Like we. We

1052
00:50:17,580 --> 00:50:19,900
knew at the moment you announced doomsday.

1053
00:50:21,340 --> 00:50:23,900
And you know, there's a Fantastic Four movie coming.

1054
00:50:24,460 --> 00:50:27,340
You, like, they're gonna be the principals.

1055
00:50:28,140 --> 00:50:29,980
One plus one equals two people.

1056
00:50:30,620 --> 00:50:32,940
>> Will: Yep, yep. Yeah, yeah,

1057
00:50:32,940 --> 00:50:35,900
exactly. And speaking of the doomsday,

1058
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:38,950
and also the Doctor Doom reveal,

1059
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,640
how did your. How did your theater react? I'm just curious.

1060
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,520
>> Sarah : Oh, well, haven't you learned anything? I live in

1061
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,390
Alaska. There was probably 10

1062
00:50:49,390 --> 00:50:50,750
other people in my theater.

1063
00:50:51,470 --> 00:50:52,350
>> Will: All right, so.

1064
00:50:53,150 --> 00:50:55,590
>> Sarah : So I don't get. I don't get lower

1065
00:50:55,590 --> 00:50:58,190
48 reactions to any

1066
00:50:58,190 --> 00:51:01,110
movies. Okay. So do not. Let's

1067
00:51:01,110 --> 00:51:01,510
not come.

1068
00:51:01,510 --> 00:51:04,430
>> Will: Okay. I just. Yeah, I. I mean, I know there was like, only.

1069
00:51:04,430 --> 00:51:07,430
I know There were like 10 of you in there. I just didn't know if like, you know, two people,

1070
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:09,310
like, what? Holy. You know.

1071
00:51:11,790 --> 00:51:14,780
Yeah, yeah. Cause. Yeah, so in Durham, yeah, I

1072
00:51:14,780 --> 00:51:17,560
mean, it was, you know, so I. I will

1073
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,520
say the crowd that I. That the

1074
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,360
theater when I saw Thursday night were, you know,

1075
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,150
were definitely the hardcore folks. but even.

1076
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:28,550
But even at that there were enough

1077
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:32,070
casual Marvel fans in the crowd

1078
00:51:32,310 --> 00:51:35,230
that when that Mid M credit happened, there was like

1079
00:51:35,230 --> 00:51:38,190
audible, I mean, audible reactions in my

1080
00:51:38,190 --> 00:51:41,110
theater where people were like, some people, some people,

1081
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,160
people lost their minds. Something. And

1082
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,080
so you know what?

1083
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,120
>> Sarah : I love hearing that because

1084
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,480
I couldn't help but just think,

1085
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,080
we know it's rdj. Why not show

1086
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,520
his face like, you coward.

1087
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,760
For me, it was like, oh, you didn't actually want to

1088
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,760
write him a check? Got it. Okay.

1089
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,170
>> Will: Apparently, apparently he, you know, I, did see

1090
00:52:10,190 --> 00:52:13,190
one. Two things. One, but you know, clearly the Russos did that

1091
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:16,110
scene because Shackman said it. And

1092
00:52:16,110 --> 00:52:18,500
two, Vanessa Kirby, she did share that,

1093
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:21,900
actually, that was rdj because she's like, he's.

1094
00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:24,820
He's. He's an omnipresent on the set.

1095
00:52:25,380 --> 00:52:27,620
And so. Yeah, so I.

1096
00:52:27,700 --> 00:52:30,220
>> Sarah : That makes me a little bit more mad, but

1097
00:52:30,220 --> 00:52:33,140
okay, that, that's fine. I.

1098
00:52:33,140 --> 00:52:35,510
I think the Discourse from the

1099
00:52:35,510 --> 00:52:38,270
hardcore nerds who

1100
00:52:38,510 --> 00:52:40,750
love Fantastic Four about

1101
00:52:42,030 --> 00:52:44,600
the fact that Franklin,

1102
00:52:45,070 --> 00:52:46,310
is touchy in the face.

1103
00:52:47,980 --> 00:52:50,700
I've. I feel like I got a crash course

1104
00:52:50,860 --> 00:52:53,420
after watching this movie and that tells me

1105
00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:57,260
that this is a better movie

1106
00:52:57,260 --> 00:52:58,860
than even I understand.

1107
00:53:00,140 --> 00:53:02,940
because when the people that this

1108
00:53:02,940 --> 00:53:05,900
movie is truly made for, which are the die

1109
00:53:05,900 --> 00:53:08,620
hard fans of this se.

1110
00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:10,780
This comic book run,

1111
00:53:12,220 --> 00:53:15,060
when they can talk hours and do

1112
00:53:15,060 --> 00:53:17,740
a Cliff Notes version of the fact that

1113
00:53:19,340 --> 00:53:22,140
it's interesting how Franklin,

1114
00:53:23,500 --> 00:53:26,470
who, will. And, and I'm

1115
00:53:26,470 --> 00:53:28,710
just going to say this now if you don't want potential future

1116
00:53:28,710 --> 00:53:31,670
spoilers. I love you, thank you for

1117
00:53:31,670 --> 00:53:33,190
listening. Please leave.

1118
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:38,550
I respect you enough to say that right now.

1119
00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:41,190
>> Will: So I clicked on, I put on the spoiler alert. Just.

1120
00:53:41,910 --> 00:53:44,910
>> Sarah : So here's what I understand could potentially

1121
00:53:44,910 --> 00:53:47,750
be happening. Franklin at one

1122
00:53:47,750 --> 00:53:50,560
point in the run, takes on a

1123
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,320
Persona called Molecular man, okay.

1124
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,080
Who plays a pivotal role

1125
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,490
in in Secret Wars.

1126
00:54:02,410 --> 00:54:05,050
So that is, that is one theory going

1127
00:54:05,050 --> 00:54:07,770
on about how, how

1128
00:54:08,410 --> 00:54:10,850
that could be the trajectory and why

1129
00:54:10,850 --> 00:54:13,770
Franklin is specifically introduced in, in

1130
00:54:13,850 --> 00:54:16,230
this this movie,

1131
00:54:16,860 --> 00:54:19,260
when we have that in the future as well as

1132
00:54:19,260 --> 00:54:21,100
Doomsday. The other

1133
00:54:22,140 --> 00:54:25,100
very, nuanced discourse that is happening

1134
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:27,939
about this mid credit credit scene is the fact

1135
00:54:27,939 --> 00:54:30,860
that it's Franklin and Doom and

1136
00:54:30,860 --> 00:54:33,540
not. And I'm going to butcher her name,

1137
00:54:34,020 --> 00:54:36,420
but she is named the other

1138
00:54:36,980 --> 00:54:38,250
re. Richard's child,

1139
00:54:39,490 --> 00:54:42,330
Lavatia. Like it's a, it's a, it's

1140
00:54:42,330 --> 00:54:45,250
a word play on where Doom is

1141
00:54:45,250 --> 00:54:47,930
from. Okay, okay. Like

1142
00:54:47,930 --> 00:54:49,810
Latvia or something.

1143
00:54:51,330 --> 00:54:52,090
>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

1144
00:54:52,090 --> 00:54:52,930
>> Sarah : Oh, go ahead.

1145
00:54:53,410 --> 00:54:56,250
>> Will: No, go, no, go ahead. I think I was trying to remember the name.

1146
00:54:56,250 --> 00:54:56,850
Yeah, sorry.

1147
00:54:56,930 --> 00:54:59,330
>> Sarah : Yeah. So from what I understand,

1148
00:55:00,210 --> 00:55:02,530
she's named after Doom

1149
00:55:03,250 --> 00:55:05,970
because Reed is off doing something

1150
00:55:05,970 --> 00:55:08,910
else. Sue is about to give

1151
00:55:08,990 --> 00:55:11,870
like needs protection or something and Doom

1152
00:55:12,430 --> 00:55:15,350
says I will protect your

1153
00:55:15,350 --> 00:55:18,270
family because they have a weird relationship or whatever.

1154
00:55:18,590 --> 00:55:20,430
And, and through this action,

1155
00:55:21,790 --> 00:55:24,590
he becomes the godfather of their

1156
00:55:24,590 --> 00:55:27,310
daughter. And she has a very,

1157
00:55:27,390 --> 00:55:29,470
like, they're very tight and close.

1158
00:55:30,590 --> 00:55:33,390
so, so, so that's the other thing is

1159
00:55:33,390 --> 00:55:35,950
like, okay, so, so are you going to

1160
00:55:35,950 --> 00:55:38,430
introduce this other like the daughter?

1161
00:55:38,750 --> 00:55:41,470
And I mean by the end of this

1162
00:55:41,470 --> 00:55:44,110
movie we're seeing four years into the future.

1163
00:55:44,430 --> 00:55:47,070
So are we gonna get the daughter or Only.

1164
00:55:47,150 --> 00:55:49,950
Only getting Franklin because Molecular man

1165
00:55:50,030 --> 00:55:52,870
is also like one version this

1166
00:55:52,870 --> 00:55:55,550
kid from. And

1167
00:55:55,550 --> 00:55:58,450
here's another spoiler. And I'm sorry for

1168
00:55:58,450 --> 00:56:00,890
all you fans of Bob, but

1169
00:56:00,890 --> 00:56:03,730
apparently Franklin kills

1170
00:56:03,730 --> 00:56:06,130
the Void at one point and Bob,

1171
00:56:08,690 --> 00:56:10,690
that is how powerful he is.

1172
00:56:11,090 --> 00:56:11,930
>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

1173
00:56:11,930 --> 00:56:14,330
>> Sarah : In the books, like this is A, there's a.

1174
00:56:14,330 --> 00:56:16,970
Definitely a good reason why Galactus

1175
00:56:16,970 --> 00:56:19,770
wanted him. And to say that he is

1176
00:56:19,770 --> 00:56:22,200
cosmically blessed is probably the

1177
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,880
understatement, from what I understand.

1178
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,360
so I, And, And I,

1179
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,510
I also had this, Sorry, I'm talking a lot, but

1180
00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:34,510
I had this running through my head while watching the movie.

1181
00:56:34,510 --> 00:56:37,429
And I don't know if you did, too, because it's called

1182
00:56:37,429 --> 00:56:40,390
Fantastic Four, but it's also very. It's called

1183
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:41,430
First Steps.

1184
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:42,310
>> Will: Yep.

1185
00:56:43,350 --> 00:56:45,950
>> Sarah : The movie's all about, technically, all about

1186
00:56:45,950 --> 00:56:46,550
Franklin.

1187
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:47,960
>> Will: Yeah.

1188
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,640
>> Sarah : So why couldn't, at the end, we see him take his

1189
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,160
first step? Because this is really what's

1190
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,160
happening. Like, you just gave birth

1191
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,480
to what will become, like,

1192
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,400
the biggest threat and

1193
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,440
hero simultaneously in the entire

1194
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,360
universe, and. My God.

1195
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:13,150
but. So I, I, I

1196
00:57:13,150 --> 00:57:15,670
don't know, though. I, I, I think it's.

1197
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:18,550
I think it's clever

1198
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:23,870
that we've

1199
00:57:23,870 --> 00:57:26,590
always heard these characters described as

1200
00:57:26,590 --> 00:57:29,470
Marvel's first family. So the real

1201
00:57:29,470 --> 00:57:32,310
introduction to the MCU is them

1202
00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:33,750
legitimately

1203
00:57:34,790 --> 00:57:35,830
reproducing.

1204
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:37,350
>> Will: Yeah.

1205
00:57:37,350 --> 00:57:39,870
>> Sarah : Yeah. To prove to you this is

1206
00:57:39,870 --> 00:57:42,350
Marvel's first family, and they, they

1207
00:57:42,350 --> 00:57:45,050
reproduced. And now, now we're kind of

1208
00:57:45,050 --> 00:57:48,010
terrified, because if Franklin has a bad day,

1209
00:57:48,010 --> 00:57:50,610
he doesn't know how to use his powers. Okay.

1210
00:57:50,930 --> 00:57:53,850
So, so he, he may have. He may have brought

1211
00:57:53,850 --> 00:57:56,530
sue back, but I don't know, if she takes away his

1212
00:57:56,530 --> 00:57:59,010
blanket, what will happen? Okay.

1213
00:58:02,370 --> 00:58:03,920
>> Will: Oh, boy. Yeah. Yeah.

1214
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:05,760
>> Sarah : That's all I know.

1215
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,560
>> Will: Yeah. No, no, I mean, I, you know,

1216
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,510
of course, you know, I know you brought up Bob, and,

1217
00:58:12,290 --> 00:58:13,970
and that. That was. That was

1218
00:58:15,010 --> 00:58:17,960
one thing too, that, I was, I was

1219
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,680
really curious about how and, and,

1220
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,600
and shame on me for just, like. But I

1221
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,960
think it's just, you know, after so many. So many

1222
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,640
TV shows and movies, I'm just always expecting, like,

1223
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,680
them to tie it back into something. But I really did

1224
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,660
appreciate how this truly was, from start

1225
00:58:35,660 --> 00:58:38,300
to finish, a standalone story, because I was so.

1226
00:58:38,460 --> 00:58:41,180
I was like, okay, now how are they gonna weave in the.

1227
00:58:41,580 --> 00:58:43,630
The, end credit from.

1228
00:58:44,350 --> 00:58:45,470
From Thunderbolts?

1229
00:58:45,790 --> 00:58:46,390
>> Sarah : Oh, yeah.

1230
00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:48,110
>> Will: I never did. And I never did.

1231
00:58:48,830 --> 00:58:49,710
>> Sarah : Which is great.

1232
00:58:49,710 --> 00:58:51,150
>> Will: I really appreciated that. Yep.

1233
00:58:51,390 --> 00:58:54,030
>> Sarah : Yeah. Because. Because we don't need the end

1234
00:58:54,030 --> 00:58:56,950
credits to necessarily weave together. I mean, we're getting

1235
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:59,910
pieces of the puzzle at this point. And, And

1236
00:58:59,910 --> 00:59:00,670
I will say,

1237
00:59:02,850 --> 00:59:04,370
up until this conversation,

1238
00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:08,390
where. Where I truly understand how much I did

1239
00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:11,190
enjoy Fantastic Four. And probably,

1240
00:59:12,310 --> 00:59:14,710
probably even after this, I will say,

1241
00:59:15,270 --> 00:59:18,230
between the two Thunderbolts and

1242
00:59:18,230 --> 00:59:21,110
Fantastic Four, I.

1243
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:26,070
And this is only because of a very specific

1244
00:59:26,070 --> 00:59:28,850
scene in Thunderbolts. I. I

1245
00:59:28,850 --> 00:59:31,330
do find that I lean more

1246
00:59:31,330 --> 00:59:33,850
thunderbolts just because

1247
00:59:34,010 --> 00:59:35,450
David Harbor. Okay,

1248
00:59:36,890 --> 00:59:39,810
I. To this day. And, and

1249
00:59:39,810 --> 00:59:42,530
this is also because I have a very embarrassing dad

1250
00:59:42,530 --> 00:59:44,970
myself. So to this day,

1251
00:59:45,450 --> 00:59:48,370
I vividly in my mind will

1252
00:59:48,370 --> 00:59:51,050
just think about him

1253
00:59:51,130 --> 00:59:54,020
running into the desert and yelling at.

1254
00:59:54,090 --> 00:59:56,590
At Yelena, she,

1255
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,280
wants to kill you.

1256
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,360
We have to. And just the

1257
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,360
embarrassment, just the utter, like,

1258
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,319
don't look at it. It'll go away. Don't make eye

1259
01:00:09,319 --> 01:00:12,040
contact. I don't know him. Do not.

1260
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,320
No, I just. There's that,

1261
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,120
that moment. Like,

1262
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,770
I, I'm. I'm sorry.

1263
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,160
you can clearly hear in the way I'm talking about

1264
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,680
Fantastic Four. I had a great time.

1265
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,080
It was fine. I'm definitely not mad. I definitely

1266
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,520
has more strengths than it does weaknesses.

1267
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,720
But what. But

1268
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,280
Thunderbolts made me laugh out loud a whole

1269
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,040
bunch. And I still think about some of those jokes.

1270
01:00:43,030 --> 01:00:45,510
first steps. I didn't really laugh at all.

1271
01:00:46,110 --> 01:00:49,110
albeit I did get goosebumps a few times, which

1272
01:00:49,110 --> 01:00:49,990
I mentioned before.

1273
01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:52,830
>> Will: But, yeah, so, yeah, I,

1274
01:00:52,830 --> 01:00:54,750
I did laugh out loud a few

1275
01:00:55,870 --> 01:00:58,840
in both films. and, but like, and like I said Prisoner of

1276
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,680
the Moment whenever I first watched

1277
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,520
it, and even now I, I like

1278
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,920
this was a fun movie. I mean, as far as,

1279
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,440
as far as the vibes I got, you know, it's.

1280
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,390
I have, you know, it's one of those, one of those Marvel

1281
01:01:13,390 --> 01:01:15,710
properties that

1282
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I'll probably, you know, that I can see myself re watching

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because I haven't really had the desire to re. Watch a lot of

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these films recently. and, and. But this

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is one where I'm like, you know what? I do want to go back and especially after,

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now that we've talked about it, because that, that

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I definitely want to go back and, and watch it again

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01:01:33,990 --> 01:01:36,640
in the theater. and then, and then, and then

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even when it comes out on streaming because there's.

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There's a lot there. And, and, and, and just our

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01:01:42,500 --> 01:01:45,420
conversation tonight made me realize, like, yeah, I caught a lot of

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things, but there's. There's even more things that I think a

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01:01:48,260 --> 01:01:50,140
rewatch will. Will help

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01:01:51,180 --> 01:01:53,980
close some of the. The knowledge gaps that I have

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01:01:54,140 --> 01:01:56,980
so that as we move into the next round

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01:01:56,980 --> 01:01:59,900
of, you know, m. Next round of films and, and

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01:01:59,900 --> 01:02:02,610
shows, even though this is. Even though this is a

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01:02:02,610 --> 01:02:04,370
standalone and they, they.

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01:02:05,650 --> 01:02:08,490
They may or may not. They may or may not have anything to do with the, the

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01:02:08,490 --> 01:02:11,250
larger, you know, doomsday saga,

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01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:14,440
there's some foundational things here that, that are

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01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,080
important Yeah.

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01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,920
>> Sarah : I think that the best comparison I've heard

1304
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,610
since watching it, is that

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01:02:22,570 --> 01:02:25,330
this feels like a Phase one

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01:02:25,330 --> 01:02:26,330
Marvel movie.

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01:02:26,650 --> 01:02:27,130
>> Will: Yeah.

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01:02:27,290 --> 01:02:30,100
>> Sarah : Because if you, like, take your

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01:02:30,100 --> 01:02:32,100
love of Iron man aside,

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01:02:32,980 --> 01:02:35,460
but if you really think about First Avenger,

1311
01:02:36,180 --> 01:02:38,900
Thor 1, those kind of

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01:02:38,900 --> 01:02:39,460
movies.

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01:02:40,180 --> 01:02:40,660
>> Will: Yeah.

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01:02:40,740 --> 01:02:42,340
>> Sarah : And like,

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01:02:43,540 --> 01:02:46,540
a lot of people I don't think appreciated them as much

1316
01:02:46,540 --> 01:02:49,140
at the time as they did

1317
01:02:49,460 --> 01:02:52,450
later on when, when larger things

1318
01:02:52,450 --> 01:02:55,180
were coming to light like I

1319
01:02:55,580 --> 01:02:58,220
and I. And that really struck me

1320
01:02:58,940 --> 01:03:01,820
because it's so true that I think

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01:03:02,140 --> 01:03:04,700
that five

1322
01:03:04,700 --> 01:03:07,540
movies down the line, or when we get

1323
01:03:07,540 --> 01:03:09,100
Fantastic Four to

1324
01:03:10,220 --> 01:03:13,060
however long into the future, I

1325
01:03:13,060 --> 01:03:15,980
think then there'll be nostalgia for

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01:03:15,980 --> 01:03:18,940
this movie and more appreciation for some of the

1327
01:03:18,940 --> 01:03:20,300
subtleness that it did.

1328
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,240
but it. For right now, in terms, it's just

1329
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,440
like, okay, we're at the beginning again.

1330
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:31,680
We've been through this.

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01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,000
>> Will: Yeah. I think, Yeah. I think that, you know,

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01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,910
you shared earlier about the, The note

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01:03:39,910 --> 01:03:42,830
that I have put on the rundown about is this a soft reboot? And

1334
01:03:42,830 --> 01:03:45,790
as you're saying, the, you know, going back to those.

1335
01:03:46,300 --> 01:03:48,650
The first phase, I, think

1336
01:03:48,650 --> 01:03:51,530
subconsciously that's where. Where. Why I put that note there

1337
01:03:51,930 --> 01:03:54,410
because you're right. I mean, I think that. That this film

1338
01:03:54,970 --> 01:03:57,690
is. Does. Does. Is going to play that role.

1339
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,919
and we'll see. Like. Oh, yeah. Okay. This,

1340
01:04:00,919 --> 01:04:03,890
this is why this, this. This is why this, this film is.

1341
01:04:04,290 --> 01:04:04,930
Was important.

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01:04:05,410 --> 01:04:06,250
>> Sarah : Yeah. In the grand

1343
01:04:06,250 --> 01:04:08,530
scheme,

1344
01:04:10,510 --> 01:04:13,470
past my bedtime. It's probably like almost

1345
01:04:13,470 --> 01:04:16,390
your bedtime because. Yeah, I'm like an

1346
01:04:16,390 --> 01:04:18,200
old woman at heart. But, any.

1347
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,400
Any small bits of Comic Con or do you want to talk about

1348
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,280
that the next. Oh, yeah, we're not

1349
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,600
meeting for like a month.

1350
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,600
>> Will: Yeah, let's. Let's. I mean, this really, really fast

1351
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,530
because, over the weekend I did do a,

1352
01:04:34,530 --> 01:04:37,500
Did, you know, a couple live streams for some of the stuff

1353
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:40,310
from Comic Con. But of course, one of the,

1354
01:04:40,310 --> 01:04:43,240
you know, I don't know if you watched the Gen V, trailer.

1355
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,200
I did. I didn't watch this until right

1356
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,120
before recording. so of course they did drop, a

1357
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,090
new poster for Gen V. And and they do

1358
01:04:52,090 --> 01:04:54,810
have the full trailer for. For the upcoming season, so.

1359
01:04:54,970 --> 01:04:57,290
Looks really good. We do. You know, there were a couple,

1360
01:04:57,370 --> 01:04:59,930
crossovers, in that, we'll see

1361
01:05:00,090 --> 01:05:02,330
from the. From the Boys into the show,

1362
01:05:03,530 --> 01:05:06,500
Starlight. and, Black Door. but, but yeah, you

1363
01:05:06,500 --> 01:05:09,340
know, it looks like they're really gonna be. Marie's really going to be the big focus this

1364
01:05:09,340 --> 01:05:12,340
Upcoming season, another show I was planning to do

1365
01:05:12,340 --> 01:05:14,910
A Paradise, watch along

1366
01:05:15,310 --> 01:05:18,210
but it cross overlap with the

1367
01:05:18,210 --> 01:05:20,930
Star Trek panel and I didn't see much on Social,

1368
01:05:21,170 --> 01:05:23,460
at least real time during

1369
01:05:24,010 --> 01:05:26,750
during the panel. But Dan Fogelman and

1370
01:05:26,750 --> 01:05:29,640
Sterling K. Brown did have their season two

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01:05:29,890 --> 01:05:32,870
panel at. At Comic Con. Also, Shelley Woodley.

1372
01:05:32,950 --> 01:05:35,830
Woodley, she also is going to be joining the cast. And

1373
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,390
she, they, they did show some footage from the first

1374
01:05:39,390 --> 01:05:42,340
episode and we learned about her character and she's, she's,

1375
01:05:42,340 --> 01:05:44,910
she, she's in Graceland when all. When the world ends.

1376
01:05:45,620 --> 01:05:48,350
so that's little things from Paradise. of course we got

1377
01:05:48,350 --> 01:05:51,130
Peacemaker, the Peacemaker trailer. we.

1378
01:05:51,130 --> 01:05:53,840
I joined Adam from A plus Opinions

1379
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,680
joined me and our lab review for that. If you want to

1380
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,590
check it out here on our channel or you know, please, please

1381
01:05:59,670 --> 01:06:02,520
feel free to do so. And then last, just to

1382
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,410
hit the start some Star Trek news again, we

1383
01:06:05,410 --> 01:06:08,410
did get a teaser for Strange New World Season 4. There's

1384
01:06:08,410 --> 01:06:11,410
going to be a Muppet episode. Jim Henson Company is

1385
01:06:11,410 --> 01:06:14,390
going to be helping to produce that little cute little

1386
01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:17,360
trailer that they dropped during Comic Con. there's

1387
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,040
also a Con audio drama

1388
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,090
that you know, one of the pivotal characters in the Star Trek

1389
01:06:23,090 --> 01:06:26,040
universe of Khan, Nuni and Singh. there's going to be an

1390
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,000
audio drama I guess chronicling the time that

1391
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,540
he had on seti, Alpha 5

1392
01:06:32,860 --> 01:06:35,660
and prior to the events of Star Trek to the Wrathicon.

1393
01:06:35,660 --> 01:06:38,460
And then of course there was a trailer for Starfleet Academy.

1394
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,720
the new set is going to be coming up

1395
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,410
next year. And then last we did.

1396
01:06:44,650 --> 01:06:47,530
There was a small Star wars panel, and we did

1397
01:06:47,530 --> 01:06:50,420
get some. We got our first look at Ezra Bridger,

1398
01:06:50,900 --> 01:06:53,720
who and for Ahsoka Season 2. So

1399
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,560
those are just some real quick hits from, from Comic Con.

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01:06:58,749 --> 01:07:01,549
>> Sarah : All right, awesome. Ah, please go and check out all

1401
01:07:01,549 --> 01:07:04,460
of that fun, because Will was gracious

1402
01:07:04,460 --> 01:07:07,340
enough to give up his Saturday to do all of that

1403
01:07:07,660 --> 01:07:10,620
and spend time with you all. So on that

1404
01:07:10,620 --> 01:07:13,340
note, Will, why don't you tell our listeners where they can find

1405
01:07:13,340 --> 01:07:13,660
you.

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01:07:14,220 --> 01:07:17,129
>> Will: Yes, you can find me on all the socials at Will

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01:07:17,129 --> 01:07:19,969
and Polk W I L L M P O.

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01:07:19,969 --> 01:07:22,889
>> Sarah : L K And you can find me there too at SJ Belmont S

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