Fallout Season 2 Eps 7 and 8 & A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms Ep 3: Full Breakdown

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>> Sarah : Sam. Greetings, nerds. This is Scene N Nerd. I'm

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your host, Sarah Belmont, and with me, as always,

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is our Mr. Producer, will Will Polk how are you

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Doing tonight, Will.

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>> Will: Doing very well. Hope you're doing all right.

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>> Sarah : We make our way through the last two episodes of,

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Fallout season two. their finale aired earlier

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this week and so we're talking about the handoff

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as well as the strip. We will. What did you think

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about how they concluded season two?

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>> Will: Yeah, so, it was the best of times and it was the

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worst of times with Fallout because, the, you

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know, we, we have gone and very, very deep

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throughout the season about how this show has a

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lot of arcs, a lot of, lot of, lot of storylines

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and, and plots and how they all are. You know, it

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seems that there's, there's a big ambition and

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then, but with the ambition, sometimes some things

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get very well baked and some are, are not so much.

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And I feel like these two episodes really, like,

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highlighted that the best part, you know, with

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where the stories where the things really, really

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landed. It landed really well. And in other things

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it was just like, oh, yeah, this, this reminds me

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of why I got so, you know, why we get frustrated

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sometimes watching this show.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. I think I liked, ah, episode seven more than

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I liked episode eight. Episode eight. It just felt

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like an epilogue. It felt like, okay, now, now

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we're, we're tying up all of our loose ends. And I

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appreciated more the pace of setting up for those

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loose ends and, and there was a lot more movement.

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and, and I was surprised. I was caught off guard

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with seven. Episode seven with the cold open of

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Stephanie Harper and they, they really in, in the,

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the ninth Emmy ending, they, they finally paid her

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off.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : And I was, I was just like. And, and really what

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did. It was the fact she's Canadian. Like, come

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on.

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>> Will: Yeah, that was. So that was where, you know, I

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remember whenever we talked briefly about Chad

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finding the ID card and earlier in the season and

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you know, it was kind of. I think I just made kind

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of a one off comment on it. And, and and so

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whenever we did get that cold open and you know,

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shout out to Natasha Hestridge, playing

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Stephanie's mom and you know, we, it was, it was,

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it was cool to get that, that payoff with that

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because again, the story has a lot of juggling a

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lot of, a lot of stories and, and and we did get

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that payoff that, oh yeah, she's Canadian. And

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also I felt kind of ripped from the headlines

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because, you know, whenever Chet and Stephanie had

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the, had the, the. The wedding in the Vault, you

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know, we. We see. You know, it just reinforces

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the, anti Canadian feels that, you know, from 200

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years prior, we, you know, 200 years later, those

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folks still, you know, the, the battle, you know,

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between Canada, United States, as far as the vault

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dwellers, were like, losing their minds that

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Stephanie was Canadian.

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>> Sarah : It's just a reminder, like, this didn't just

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happen to the US We've been stuck in the US For a

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long period of time. It happened globally. But

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beyond just being Canadian, we learn that she and

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Hank were married pre Vault Prevaunt. And, and

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really in these last two episodes, they also

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fleshed out Hank more in the past and in the

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present to inform where he became much more of an

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acolyte. Not for House, but for the. What do they

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call it?

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>> Will: The. The Enclave.

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>> Sarah : The Enclave. So, which. Which I. I thought was

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good, too. I mean, dare I say. Dare I say that

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despite all my issues with this show, I think this

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season is better than the first season. yeah, I, I

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just. I think that. And now granted recency bias,

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because it's not like I. I returned to the first

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season at all in between shows. So I don't know

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how much that's a legitimate statement, but at

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least the way they ended it felt more fulfilling

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and more like, okay, we're on to the next chapter.

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Granted, I don't like this idea that the ghoul and

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Lucy will no longer be hanging out together. I'm

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sure they're gonna fix that. and I hope they do. I

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also, dare I say, I don't need flashbacks in

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season three. I want a season without flashbacks

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just because I. If. And if. Okay, maybe I take

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that back. I don't want flashbacks to the current

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time period leading up to the. What happens.

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Because I am now at the point with the ghoul slash

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Cooper Howard where I want to understand more

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about these 200 years. And so that's just me. And

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I'm sure they're not going to do that, but I'm

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putting it out there that I'm a little bit okay

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with it. And if I hear Robert House allude to

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somebody more powerful than him one more time.

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Yeah, because that's annoying. But.

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>> Will: Yeah. So let me just ask. So when you say

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flashbacks, so are you. Are you wanting to, like,

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explore how Cooper became the ghoul or.

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>> Sarah : Or. well, I. I mean, I think. Sure, sure. How he

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became the ghoul, post explosion or Post end of

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the world, but more about. Because he says it in

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the finale, like, for the first time in 200 years,

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he's had hope. But we've also been very much aware

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that he's been looking for his family for the past

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200 years. So. And he's seen things. He's aware.

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He. He's more like, arguably one of the most. I

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guess why I'm putting that out there, too, is to

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go back to all of my ramps about Lucy. Like, we

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get it, she's from the vault, surface is

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different. She's gonna change too, blah, blah,

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blah. But as we said in, episode six, when we're

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talking about episode six, and he finally, for the

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first time, we hear him as the ghoul, refer to

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himself as Cooper Howard. Right, right. So. And

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then we talked about how, like, he has a foot in

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both worlds, where he is a ghoul, he is an ab. Yet

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he also, because of his family, there's this

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humanity in him. I mean, just look at what he did

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for Lucy in this episode. So I think it would be

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interesting to put the Lucy becoming someone

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different on the surface world. Like, you could

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parallel that with how the ghoul, like, lost so

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much humanity, yet at the same time, there's that.

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There's that connection that he can never cut.

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And. And. And then you can also lead that into.

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Because can we at least get the daughter in season

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three? Because I was thinking about it, I knew

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the. The tanks, the chambers would be empty just

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because there's no way that. That was way too

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easy. So. So. But. But while he was waiting there,

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I was just like, dude, you realize what you look

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like, right? You're gonna scare the living out of

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them whenever they do see you. So you might want

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to be prepared because you've been holding out

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hope for them, and they're gonna look supposedly

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normal. We don't know now for sure. But. So I

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just. It was just like that frightening of, like,

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you've been looking for someone for so long that

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when you finally find them, even though the

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memory, like, it's. It's not that they've changed,

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but you've changed. So that relationship will

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never be what it was. so I think that there could

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be something really interesting there. And. And of

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course, I'm also saying this all, like, I haven't

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thought about it at all. And it just is what comes

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to mind when we're talking about these episodes

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and specifically the ghoul in these episodes.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, no, I. I hear you. I Mean, I agree

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with you that the. Whenever I remember whenever we

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were. When we had a discussion about earlier in

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the season, whether or not we would see Cooper's

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family or not, I was like whenever they were in

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the. In the vault room there with the. With the

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tube, I also was like, yeah, this is going to be,

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empty. But I did like how they had the, you know,

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they had the postcard. You know, they went back

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and referenced Colorado. because that was a story

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beat. And. And so. So again, all things point to

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Colorado. And And.

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>> Sarah : And also is that where that facility was?

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>> Will: the facility that was in. In this EP in these

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episodes was still in Vegas?

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>> Sarah : No, no, no, no, no. The facility that is

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referenced at the very end.

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>> Will: Yeah, I think. Oh, the enclaves. Ah, lab.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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>> Will: you know, I'm not. It might be. I'm not sure. I

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mean, I know that secret lab, that lab for the

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enclave ship was it. It was also was in season one

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because that was where, Wizik worked.

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>> Sarah : Right. But I don't think that's the same lab

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because. Because they show that lab again, but

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they also showed another facility that looks like

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it's in between two mountains and it's snowing. So

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that's where I was like, is that in Colorado? And

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then I think about the. Everything Stephanie being

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being ah, Canadian. And it's like, is that in. In

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Canada or is it in Alaska? Because Robert House

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has. Fine. Yeah. Has a line about how he realized

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there was someone ahead of him as soon as he saw

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that demon in the snow. So granted, Alaska can.

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Canada. Very close. Very close.

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>> Will: Yeah, I think actually, now that you. Now that you

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talk mention it, I think that lab is. Is in Alaska

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because it makes sense. you know, given that you

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know, the Chinese had. Were attacking Alaska. and

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we saw the flashback with Cooper. we saw the you

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know, the course with the post credit in episode

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eight with the brotherhood. the cleric, now he's

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the destroyer and the Liberty Alpha armor, which

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is a, you know, callback to. To also to the war.

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and this was like a super weapon that the United

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States had built as far as the Liberty Alpha

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robot. So. Yeah. So I think that that enclave

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facility is actually probably in Alaska.

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>> Sarah : Okay. So we're gonna head back there eventually.

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Interesting.

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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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>> Sarah : Or. Or if. Unless we don't have to because there's

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that. There is that facility that we. We first met

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Wizik in, which is in California, so.

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>> Will: True.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. But but we know. We know the ghoul is headed

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to Colorado, so.

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>> Will: Yep. Yeah, I know he's going there. Yep.

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>> Sarah : Right. Right. And who knows where what Maximus and

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Lucy are gonna be up to, considering both of them

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managed to start wars.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : Granted, I didn't realize how, how much of a

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threat the, the legion was. I. For some reason,

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they didn't really seem too much of a threat to

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me. But then this episode happen, and, Macaulay

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Culkin was like, I'm gonna be king. And it's like,

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okay, you do you. You do you.

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>> Will: You do you. Caesar. Kaiser.

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>> Sarah : Caesar and Kaiser. Yeah. I'm so glad we actually

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saw the note so we could understand. here's

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someone else. that. That I think one of my issues

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is. Well, there's two people that don't get enough

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screen time, in my opinion, and I need more screen

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time for them in the future. Thaddeus. Okay. M.

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When Thaddeus had to reload, I cracked up.

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>> Will: Yeah.

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>> Sarah : And like, when Thaddeus. Everything they did with

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Thaddeus in the finale was pitch perfect. But I've

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been saying that all season, so nobody should be

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surprised by that. And I just. I just want more of

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him. Like, I feel as though when he's not around,

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we need him.

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>> Will: Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Sarah : but the other person is arguably Norm. And it's

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not because Norm would deliver comedic relief.

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It's just because he's going through something

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very interesting. and I. The whole killer wasp in,

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sequence. That's what I'm calling them. I'm sorry

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if they're not wasp, but whatever. Ro. I had

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roaches at the beginning, and then some of the

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features I was like, is that. I don't know. It's.

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It's terrifying. Regardless, I did think it was a

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bit stupid the way Norm got out of it, but at the

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same time, I'm glad that we're not going to be

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having him. Ver. Like the Buds versus him moving

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forward. because they kind of played that out. And

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dear Lord, the amount of times they must have

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knocked him out. Norm's never going to be the

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same.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was thinking that too. It's

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just like, Just stop it already, man. You know,

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give. Give poor Norm a break. But I'm glad that

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he. That Norm. And, I can't remember the young

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lady's. But he. That was helping him throughout.

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But I'm glad they escaped. But I. But again, it

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was good that they wrapped up that the Bud Buds,

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storyline up. And so we can, you know, move on to,

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to the next thing because, I, I, I, to me,

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whenever, other than Norm, when it was great, it,

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like you said, it was cool seeing him. You know,

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he had some pretty interesting moments, but I did

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feel like things kind of ground to a halt whenever

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they did, you know, into those scenes.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, they, well, now it's him and Lucy reuniting

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because I think they did also a good job with the

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the whole sequence, between Hank and Lucy. And in

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that he and please correct me if I'm wrong, but my

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interpretation. So he like reset himself.

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>> Will: He did, he did.

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>> Sarah : And, and so now he, he is definitely not the same

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guy we met at the beginning of the season. And he

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is also not the father that Lucy has known her

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whole life. because he doesn't have any

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recollection. So, so if you think about it, next

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season, likely Norm and Lucy are going to connect

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soon early on because then it's going to be her

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trying to explain to him who their father was and

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trying to get him to figure out what he did

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because we don't know to the full extent

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everything that Hank did leading up to that moment

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and it was a beautiful and well acted moment. It

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really, really was great, some great acting,

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between both of them in that scene. But then you,

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you take that scene and you hear Norm and his

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pleas for help to his father. It's like, ooh, when

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he finds out, he's a, not gonna believe it

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instantly and then B, that he's gonna like, that's

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gonna be just like what we're seeing with Lucy. A

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hard pill to swallow, especially when she was able

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to witness it firsthand. But Norm has to take her

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word for it. So I, I think the siblings need to be

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back together and, and both of their differing

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experiences so far on the surface, it'll be

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interesting to see where that takes those two.

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Hopefully. To Colorado.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah, to Colorado. or, you know, or.

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Well, given that as we, as we joked earlier that

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both that Lucy, is going to be somewhat directly

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responsible for, know, starting a war between the

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Legion and the, and, and the New California

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Republic. you know, that, that that storyline may

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be what gets, what, what will play out, the f,

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the, the ramifications of, of her actions that,

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that, that took place this season.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, I, I, she's gonna, yeah, I, I think

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you're right. I, I, I don't think it's gonna be a

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quick reunion. I just, I just think that these

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characters are, I don't want these seasons where

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again, the characters are separated, so we're

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following all of these different stories only for

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them to somewhat reunite at the end and for it to

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come full circle. Like, I, I want some pairings

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now. I do. Hopefully. I, I do like the idea of new

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pairings. Sure. That that is a thing. And on that

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note, free chat. Okay. Chat needs to get to the

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surface because I'm kind of curious about to see

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him on the surface, but I, I just, At the same

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time, so far we've built some relationships that I

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think it would be cool to, to see them together on

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one mission as opposed to. Or, or. There was some

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really good episodes in the first season where it

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did feel like these characters, Maximus, Ghoul and

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Lucy in particular were together on the same

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mission but motivated by different things. Yeah,

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and I think that's, yeah, that's more interesting

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than a lot of what we've had this season, which is

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the, like them really on their own missions,

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experience their own experiences. and then it

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connects at the end.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. Yeah, I like that as well.

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Where, with. As you said. And, and maybe that's

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where it's going because, because we, we, you

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know, like I said, we have Lucy, you know, we have

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the news California Republic and the, the. The

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Legion, seeming to be getting ready for a

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conflict. You also have the brotherhood that that

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was also still has conflict with the new

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California Republic. And, and then also, you know,

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even within the brotherhood, they were trying to

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pull themselves together, you know, earlier in the

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season with, with the cold fusion diode. So, so

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we, what's the, what's going to be the,

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implications of that? you know, especially given

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that Maximus.

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>> Will: Broke away from the, from the brotherhood. And so,

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you know, so there's going to be that. That's

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another element that will definitely with that

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post credit tease will, will be fleshed out more

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in, in the third season.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, I, I do. I, I do want to say one thing about

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the brotherhood. I, I was strong on the

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brotherhood at the beginning and, and, and so now

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the way we had that tease at the end that I could

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care less about. I think that the brotherhood only

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works when Maximus is around it and involved in

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it. so far it doesn't work. Which. Hey, Thaddeus

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wasn't. Wasn't Thaddeus somewhat involved with the

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brotherhood, if I'm not mistaken?

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>> Will: Oh, yeah, he was. He was. Yeah, yeah, he was. He

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was a squire.

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>> Sarah : Yeah, he was a squire. So. So it'd be cool because

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we. I just. I just think that that storyline works

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when Maximus and Thaddeus are involved, because

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we've spent the most time with them. Quintus

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doesn't mean anything to me when. Or any of those

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other characters, but I've said that about, like,

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Stephanie in the past, so who knows?

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>> Will: yeah, and then we got. Yeah, and then we got great

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payoff with Stephanie, this, with. With her, with

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the cold open, and. And we learn more about her

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backstory and also connection to Hank. I mean,

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they were. They were married. I mean, and so, you

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know, so she's a. So she's a part of the enclave.

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So, you know, so it's again, you know, House ref.

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You know, reference that there's other. There's

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another player out there who. Who is playing this

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game and, And. And pulling this, pulling the

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strings.

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>> Sarah : It's not.

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>> Will: No, no.

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>> Sarah : And it's not Stephanie. Stephanie is just a.

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Another, Another acolyte. Yeah. Yeah, but, I mean,

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she. Her mom knew more than, than even she did.

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So. So, yeah, the Canadian connection is strong

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there with the enclave. So I don't know if we've

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met them or haven't met them, because we do see

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that in the past, a decision Cooper Howard makes

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to hand over, that thing to the U. S. President

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played by Clancy Brown, ultimately led to what

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happened, only like, what, a month or a few weeks

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later. So.

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>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, and also how

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Cooper. I mean, we saw his fall from grace as far

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as, you know, whenever we first meet him, in the

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first season. Well, what, the flashbacks, you

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know, he was a. He was a singing, cow cowboy, if I

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recall, for birthday parties and stuff. so, yeah,

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and we, you know, we see him give himself up to

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the feds, so. To protect. To protect Barb. So that

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was. That was another. That was another thing

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that. That I did not see coming, actually. I did

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like. I did like how, you know, how they made him

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into really full circle whenever, I think House

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got him a pinko communist or something like that.

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and then, you know, and then they arrested him

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for, you know, for communism. So it was a good,

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like, you know, the parallels with, you know, with

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real world, with McCarthyism. and we see that in.

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In this. In this fallout, universe as well. So I

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did like that aspect of the story.

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>> Sarah : Anything else?

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>> Will: no, I mean, I think, Like, yeah, as I said, you

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know, overall, I think these two episodes really

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highlighted some of the strong things about, this.

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This series but then also some of the frustrating

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aspects of it as well. for me, I know you said you

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like the seventh episode better than the eighth. I

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think I like the finale better than I like the up

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and ultimate. But. But, But yeah, you know, we'll.

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We will get. We. We do know that, there is a third

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season of Fallout coming. Amazon has, green lit

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that, beyond the third season. I'm not sure if

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they. If they've gotten any more or not. But, we

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definitely know. We'll. We'll see that another.

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Probably another year.

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>> Sarah : Yeah. The one thing I did not see coming in the

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seventh episode was re. Representative Walsh's

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decapitated head. And then I did love the whole

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interaction with Lucy in the. Please kill me and

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Lucy just being like, why do I keep having like,

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why do people want me to kill them here? Like,

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what world this. It does it. And it was. It was so

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fitting. but man. Man, what did not see that

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coming. And And yeah, I. There's something about

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Amazon and these rated R shows with, heads

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exploding and decapitated heads talking. So

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anyways. All right, that brings us to a Night of

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the Seven Kingdoms. season one, episode three. The

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squire, Sir Duncan prepares for the tournament and

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much more is revealed about Egg. Will, what did

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you think about this episode?

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>> Will: Oh, I really, really, really, really enjoyed this

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episode. with the. With the reveal with just the

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story that you know, Duncan, you know, the

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relationship between Dunk and Egg, I just have to

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say this kid, Egg really to me just is my. One of

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my favorites. I mean, and haven't read the book

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now and it feels like the. The character has this.

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This comes to life on. On that I read in the book

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comes to life on screen. and so with the. With the

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reveal that we got this week, really, really,

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really enjoyed that. But also I think, the. You

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know, some of the class, warfare that, you know,

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as far as, you know. You know, we see that, you

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know, this. This show has been, you know, a day in

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the life of sort of the commoners in Westeros.

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And. And we see some of that on display with the

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Targaryens there at the tournament. And And then,

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yeah. And then also, you know, we learn more about

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Dunk as far as his character with some of the.

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With the choices that he. He makes as far as,

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whenever he was approached about, you know,

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throwing, the joust. So really, really enjoyed,

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this episode. I think it's probably each one Each

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week I could continue to enjoy this, the series

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more and more.

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>> Sarah : okay, let's talk about Duncan the Joust, because I

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forgot about that. so he gets a proposition to

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basically, to win the. A joust, in return for,

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money. So it's a payoff, it's a setup. It is a

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victory, but it's a victory with an asterisk on.

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Like, yeah, we, we. We will plan for this to

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happen. And, and he has to wrestle with that. And,

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and in my opinion, he. We never really get an

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answer. he declines, but he's constantly being

479
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seen the next day second guessing himself and, and

480
00:29:18,941 --> 00:29:21,261
rightfully so because at one point in this

481
00:29:21,261 --> 00:29:23,661
episode, Egg, who doesn't know about the

482
00:29:23,661 --> 00:29:27,371
proposition, even tells him in a different

483
00:29:27,451 --> 00:29:30,341
circumstance. Like, you shouldn't let your. Your

484
00:29:30,341 --> 00:29:33,371
ego get in the way. I think there's a line from

485
00:29:33,371 --> 00:29:38,371
Egg I might be misquoting ah, him. But so, so

486
00:29:38,371 --> 00:29:41,651
yeah, I think. I think the irony of, of what

487
00:29:41,651 --> 00:29:45,771
they're doing with Duncan is, ah, is really good.

488
00:29:46,081 --> 00:29:52,441
and I just. I, I love Dexter soul and Soul as Egg.

489
00:29:52,441 --> 00:29:55,281
He's. He's been great. He's a good child actor.

490
00:29:56,961 --> 00:30:02,951
But Peter Claffy is just stealing my, My, my

491
00:30:02,951 --> 00:30:06,561
attention every episode. Yeah, because he is just

492
00:30:06,721 --> 00:30:12,961
so. He's not dumb, but he ain't smart. He's also,

493
00:30:13,601 --> 00:30:20,601
he's also. He, He. He's very lovable. And there's

494
00:30:20,601 --> 00:30:25,441
a naivety and there's also just this, this desire

495
00:30:26,481 --> 00:30:29,401
and which I think is very relatable of wanting

496
00:30:29,401 --> 00:30:33,051
something but not knowing how to get to it. And,

497
00:30:33,211 --> 00:30:36,731
and also, but also trying to make the illusion

498
00:30:37,051 --> 00:30:40,411
because you now have someone looking up to you

499
00:30:41,931 --> 00:30:44,211
that like, no, no, no, I know how to do this

500
00:30:44,211 --> 00:30:47,931
because that's how we see a bit of the opening is

501
00:30:48,011 --> 00:30:53,411
where. Where get my Garmer. Well, sir, that's not

502
00:30:53,411 --> 00:30:58,371
how this works. You cannot join the joust quite

503
00:30:58,371 --> 00:31:04,371
yet. And him having no idea. So I, I just between

504
00:31:04,531 --> 00:31:09,601
that and then the conversation with, I do try to

505
00:31:09,601 --> 00:31:13,401
take really good notes, but please people, keep in

506
00:31:13,401 --> 00:31:17,441
mind I'm gonna get people's names wrong, but I'm

507
00:31:17,441 --> 00:31:20,701
pretty sure it's Sir Robin Reisling. they have the

508
00:31:20,701 --> 00:31:24,321
conversation one on one and ah, and we learn that,

509
00:31:24,271 --> 00:31:27,311
Sir Robin's thoughts about the Targaryens and.

510
00:31:28,191 --> 00:31:32,431
>> Will: Oh, oh. So Rob. So Robin was the. Just. I'll jump

511
00:31:32,431 --> 00:31:35,541
in real fast. So Robin was the one that, Egg,

512
00:31:36,491 --> 00:31:38,451
encountered at the beginning episode. This was

513
00:31:38,451 --> 00:31:40,531
falsely. This is okay.

514
00:31:40,611 --> 00:31:46,771
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, so whoever he was, we find

515
00:31:46,771 --> 00:31:52,341
out about just a glimmer about his opinion on the

516
00:31:52,341 --> 00:31:57,181
Targaryens and which, which is then visually or

517
00:31:57,341 --> 00:32:01,311
not then I'm getting things out of order. but is,

518
00:32:01,491 --> 00:32:03,881
earlier on in the episode. It's a conver. Okay.

519
00:32:03,881 --> 00:32:10,441
This conversation takes place after we spent too

520
00:32:10,441 --> 00:32:13,481
much time talking about fallout because I'm just

521
00:32:13,811 --> 00:32:18,171
tired now. But who's. Who's Eggs Brother Bass.

522
00:32:18,171 --> 00:32:18,611
>> Will: Oh.

523
00:32:18,611 --> 00:32:21,171
>> Sarah : Ar the one in the joust. Aryan.

524
00:32:21,171 --> 00:32:21,731
>> Will: Aryan.

525
00:32:21,891 --> 00:32:28,131
>> Sarah : Aran Aryan kills a horse and the guy. So anyways,

526
00:32:29,091 --> 00:32:31,251
we'll talk more about this episode because I'm

527
00:32:31,251 --> 00:32:32,611
tired, so. Go ahead.

528
00:32:34,291 --> 00:32:36,181
>> Will: Yeah, no, it's, it's fine. I'll give you a moment

529
00:32:36,181 --> 00:32:39,451
to like, get collect your thoughts. yeah, so I, I,

530
00:32:39,451 --> 00:32:42,091
I to pick up your point about the Targaryens.

531
00:32:42,091 --> 00:32:44,451
This, to me, this was, you know, it gets to my

532
00:32:44,451 --> 00:32:46,731
point when I, when we first started talking about,

533
00:32:47,101 --> 00:32:51,421
this, the, this episode. And, and really, I think

534
00:32:51,421 --> 00:32:57,651
it really illustrates again, how, you know, at

535
00:32:57,651 --> 00:33:00,131
this stage, you know, the dragons are gone, so the

536
00:33:00,131 --> 00:33:04,241
Targaryen, you know, whereas before the you know,

537
00:33:04,401 --> 00:33:06,881
fossil would probably. Raven would probably not

538
00:33:07,121 --> 00:33:10,681
even like, dare to like, talk that way about the

539
00:33:10,681 --> 00:33:13,721
Targaryens with. Especially when they could easily

540
00:33:13,721 --> 00:33:17,411
be an earshot. because, you know, you're just so

541
00:33:17,411 --> 00:33:20,051
worried that, you know, that you, it would be

542
00:33:20,051 --> 00:33:22,611
traitorous and, and you'll get, you know,

543
00:33:22,611 --> 00:33:24,811
literally killed for, for having those thoughts.

544
00:33:24,811 --> 00:33:29,051
But, you know, we see, we see this when Aryan does

545
00:33:29,051 --> 00:33:32,921
like, you know, kill. Kill, the horse in, in the

546
00:33:32,921 --> 00:33:37,511
joust by, you know, having his lance too low and,

547
00:33:38,391 --> 00:33:41,191
and you know, and then the crowd reaction to it.

548
00:33:41,351 --> 00:33:44,111
You know, think, you know, think about the House

549
00:33:44,111 --> 00:33:46,631
of the Dragon. You would. Yeah. You know, people

550
00:33:46,711 --> 00:33:49,551
in Westeros would probably be too afraid to like,

551
00:33:49,551 --> 00:33:52,471
challenge the Targaryens like that if, you know,

552
00:33:52,471 --> 00:33:57,501
if they just abuse their power. But here the, the

553
00:33:57,501 --> 00:34:00,301
crowd, whenever that happened and the horse, like,

554
00:34:00,301 --> 00:34:03,251
fell on the, the night and you know, crushes his

555
00:34:03,251 --> 00:34:06,931
legs and the people just, like, you know, start to

556
00:34:06,931 --> 00:34:09,611
revolt and, and really show their displeasure

557
00:34:09,611 --> 00:34:11,761
about what happened. you know, I think it

558
00:34:11,761 --> 00:34:14,121
definitely illustrates how things are different

559
00:34:14,361 --> 00:34:18,281
and how, and how the commoners view the Targaryens

560
00:34:18,921 --> 00:34:20,211
now, that they don't have their dragons.

561
00:34:22,491 --> 00:34:24,851
>> Sarah : Yeah. But there's still fear because they're. The

562
00:34:24,851 --> 00:34:29,451
Targaryens are still very much in power. So I,

563
00:34:29,541 --> 00:34:36,981
Like, I, I agree to an extent that they are. Like,

564
00:34:38,421 --> 00:34:40,701
in the past there would have been a dragon at the

565
00:34:40,701 --> 00:34:40,981
match.

566
00:34:41,701 --> 00:34:44,941
>> Will: So whatever that Would have. That would not have

567
00:34:44,941 --> 00:34:46,101
happened. Yeah, that's my point.

568
00:34:46,421 --> 00:34:48,581
>> Sarah : Right, right. Exactly. Exactly.

569
00:34:48,821 --> 00:34:49,141
>> Will: Yeah.

570
00:34:49,221 --> 00:34:55,861
>> Sarah : But. But it's also. But then. But then they see.

571
00:34:56,181 --> 00:34:59,701
And where I quiver, I guess, is just that, like,

572
00:34:59,701 --> 00:35:03,431
even though they. They, have that uprising, I

573
00:35:03,431 --> 00:35:06,181
don't know what you want to call it, they. They

574
00:35:06,181 --> 00:35:09,741
still end up like, later. Aryan still gets led

575
00:35:09,741 --> 00:35:14,631
into the puppet show and he still manages to. To

576
00:35:14,631 --> 00:35:19,551
disrupt that. So I don't know. I don't know if. If

577
00:35:19,551 --> 00:35:24,791
there's. There's as much fear, but I don't know.

578
00:35:25,351 --> 00:35:27,671
>> Will: Yeah, I think there is some. Because. Yeah,

579
00:35:27,671 --> 00:35:29,911
because let's talk about. I mean, think about the

580
00:35:29,911 --> 00:35:32,031
puppet show and the dragon losing and, you know,

581
00:35:32,031 --> 00:35:36,551
and his. His response to it, you know, know, which

582
00:35:36,551 --> 00:35:39,951
leads to the whole. Whole thing where dunk, like,

583
00:35:40,191 --> 00:35:43,001
you know, strikes him, which again, you know,

584
00:35:43,001 --> 00:35:46,121
could you imagine just a commoner striking like.

585
00:35:46,361 --> 00:35:52,361
Like Damon, you know, and also, you.

586
00:35:52,361 --> 00:35:57,151
>> Sarah : Know, so I think, Duncan's reaction fits for who

587
00:35:57,151 --> 00:35:59,551
we've were presented with. He doesn't understand

588
00:35:59,951 --> 00:36:03,311
the rules of this society. He's now placed into

589
00:36:03,311 --> 00:36:08,991
the society. So I think, if. If. I think for him

590
00:36:10,511 --> 00:36:15,351
wasn't surprising to me that he had that reaction

591
00:36:15,751 --> 00:36:20,031
knowing now, knowing who he is for the last hour

592
00:36:20,031 --> 00:36:24,111
and a half of this. Of this story. And. And it

593
00:36:24,111 --> 00:36:27,511
also doesn't surprise me, like, Aryan's reaction

594
00:36:27,991 --> 00:36:31,271
to the thing. But I think, to your point, that

595
00:36:31,271 --> 00:36:35,271
puppet show wouldn't have happened like 50 years

596
00:36:35,271 --> 00:36:37,831
in the past, 200 years in the past, whatever.

597
00:36:37,831 --> 00:36:38,151
>> Will: Right?

598
00:36:38,471 --> 00:36:43,661
>> Sarah : So it would definitely happen in the future. yeah,

599
00:36:43,741 --> 00:36:47,421
but it's. It. It is an interesting thing. And

600
00:36:47,821 --> 00:36:54,431
that's. That is one of the, And yeah, I. I like

601
00:36:54,511 --> 00:36:58,431
how they do that or are doing that with the whole.

602
00:37:00,751 --> 00:37:06,711
We're talking about very large society issues. but

603
00:37:07,431 --> 00:37:10,711
at the same token, this show is very. A very

604
00:37:10,711 --> 00:37:14,721
simple telling about one. One hedge night and a

605
00:37:14,721 --> 00:37:18,401
squire who just so happens to be Targaryen. Now,

606
00:37:18,561 --> 00:37:21,871
I. I know the question that, And I'm surprised

607
00:37:21,871 --> 00:37:24,591
Will has not asked me. I was not surprised by Egg

608
00:37:24,591 --> 00:37:25,591
being Targaryen.

609
00:37:26,151 --> 00:37:26,791
>> Will: Okay.

610
00:37:28,151 --> 00:37:32,271
>> Sarah : It was not a reveal to me. And now I will. I do

611
00:37:32,271 --> 00:37:36,321
have an asterisk on this because, there was. I

612
00:37:36,321 --> 00:37:38,901
think after I watched the first episode, I

613
00:37:38,901 --> 00:37:42,501
randomly and accidentally stumbled upon an AI

614
00:37:42,501 --> 00:37:46,451
generated, TikTok video that alluded to him being

615
00:37:46,451 --> 00:37:51,251
a Targaryen. And so that seed was planted, like,

616
00:37:51,571 --> 00:37:55,731
all the way back then to me. So I don't know if

617
00:37:55,811 --> 00:38:00,891
because of watching that, I figured it out or not.

618
00:38:01,171 --> 00:38:04,811
figured it out. I already had that in my mind,

619
00:38:04,811 --> 00:38:09,111
like that was gonna be a thing or it was the fact

620
00:38:09,111 --> 00:38:13,831
that, what. In episode two, we find out that one

621
00:38:13,831 --> 00:38:17,071
of the Targaryen princes, his sons, are missing.

622
00:38:17,071 --> 00:38:21,311
And. Oh yeah, we met. We met one of them drunkenly

623
00:38:21,311 --> 00:38:26,271
in the first episode. So we also know that that

624
00:38:26,271 --> 00:38:29,791
Egg, like, he knows too much. I even said that

625
00:38:29,791 --> 00:38:34,871
last week. And then in this episode, there's the

626
00:38:34,871 --> 00:38:37,271
fortune teller scene. They should have not

627
00:38:37,271 --> 00:38:40,951
included that. I just. I. That was a stupid note

628
00:38:40,951 --> 00:38:45,871
that did not need to be in there because. And. And

629
00:38:45,871 --> 00:38:49,351
I say that while knowing that was much less about

630
00:38:49,351 --> 00:38:53,791
the reveal and much more about the reason for Egg

631
00:38:53,791 --> 00:38:58,031
wanting to be in disguise in general. Like, he is

632
00:38:58,031 --> 00:39:05,071
very. He doesn't like the Targaryen way, but he's

633
00:39:05,071 --> 00:39:09,321
very much is a Targaryen. So, he has that conflict

634
00:39:09,401 --> 00:39:10,601
going on with him.

635
00:39:11,561 --> 00:39:12,281
>> Will: Yeah, yeah.

636
00:39:12,281 --> 00:39:14,761
>> Sarah : And him shaking his head. So.

637
00:39:15,881 --> 00:39:19,391
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that, I. Yeah. So the. This. So

638
00:39:19,391 --> 00:39:21,751
the. The fortune teller scene was. Was added

639
00:39:22,231 --> 00:39:27,841
because. And I. And I. And so I. I agree that it.

640
00:39:27,921 --> 00:39:33,051
For me, it did not add much. for me. I was. I was

641
00:39:33,051 --> 00:39:35,821
wondering when we would get, You know, given that

642
00:39:35,821 --> 00:39:37,541
they. How they have like, shifted some things

643
00:39:37,541 --> 00:39:41,781
around in, you know, in the. From the. Most things

644
00:39:41,781 --> 00:39:45,221
are followed along with the novella, but I thought

645
00:39:45,221 --> 00:39:47,021
maybe we would get the reveal maybe in the fourth

646
00:39:47,021 --> 00:39:50,311
episode. So when we. When we got it this week and

647
00:39:50,311 --> 00:39:53,231
it plays out pretty much, you know, pretty similar

648
00:39:53,231 --> 00:39:54,631
to how. How.

649
00:39:54,631 --> 00:39:54,911
>> Sarah : How.

650
00:39:54,911 --> 00:39:58,231
>> Will: How it played out in the book as well. And so I,

651
00:39:58,231 --> 00:40:01,231
you know, so I knew it was. So when I. I was very

652
00:40:01,231 --> 00:40:03,391
satisfied with the reveal because then I think

653
00:40:03,391 --> 00:40:07,591
part of it is, is how well acted, Dexter and. And.

654
00:40:07,591 --> 00:40:11,011
And Peter, just. They just nail. You know, they

655
00:40:11,011 --> 00:40:14,691
really did nail the. The. The. The. The. The

656
00:40:14,691 --> 00:40:19,051
actors and casting, you know, them to play these

657
00:40:19,051 --> 00:40:23,291
characters. So it was. So it. I. It was very

658
00:40:23,291 --> 00:40:27,111
satisfying, to watch the scene, and, And. And

659
00:40:27,111 --> 00:40:30,121
really just sort of. Sort of enjoyed, this. Just

660
00:40:30,121 --> 00:40:32,761
the whole. The whole. The whole aspect of it. But,

661
00:40:32,761 --> 00:40:34,551
Yeah, I agree with you with the, With the, The

662
00:40:34,551 --> 00:40:37,841
fortune teller. Yeah, it just, you know, there

663
00:40:37,841 --> 00:40:39,921
were some additions, like even with the. With the

664
00:40:39,921 --> 00:40:42,601
scene at the beginning with the cold. With the

665
00:40:42,601 --> 00:40:46,351
open, With. With Duncan, you know, training the.

666
00:40:46,351 --> 00:40:49,701
The training the horse, that was also a nice ad.

667
00:40:49,971 --> 00:40:54,091
and. And yeah, so, you know, and of course they

668
00:40:54,091 --> 00:40:56,051
always have. You know, I think we. We have to have

669
00:40:56,051 --> 00:40:58,611
some potty humor when, you know, had the horse

670
00:40:58,611 --> 00:41:00,571
death, you know, shitting there at the beginning

671
00:41:00,571 --> 00:41:02,691
so, you know, we got our one little joke here at

672
00:41:02,691 --> 00:41:04,331
the beginning. I think that's just, well, that's

673
00:41:04,331 --> 00:41:06,011
as par for the course with the show now.

674
00:41:06,421 --> 00:41:12,131
>> Sarah : but, but yeah, involving a central character to

675
00:41:12,131 --> 00:41:12,891
the episode.

676
00:41:13,531 --> 00:41:14,091
>> Will: Yeah.

677
00:41:14,891 --> 00:41:20,731
>> Sarah : So it's like I wasn't surpr. Like the, the horse.

678
00:41:20,941 --> 00:41:23,981
I was just relieved it had nothing to do with Egg.

679
00:41:24,781 --> 00:41:29,231
Like, I was like, no, no, no. Okay. Leave the kid

680
00:41:29,231 --> 00:41:30,311
alone. Okay.

681
00:41:30,391 --> 00:41:30,871
>> Will: Yeah.

682
00:41:31,751 --> 00:41:35,031
>> Sarah : So I think they, they, they did a smart route.

683
00:41:35,031 --> 00:41:38,751
But, you know, it'll be interesting next week as

684
00:41:38,751 --> 00:41:42,711
we go into episode four, five and six about who

685
00:41:43,431 --> 00:41:46,471
that opening scene will be with and what, what

686
00:41:46,471 --> 00:41:48,551
will be the quote unquote joke.

687
00:41:49,511 --> 00:41:51,921
>> Will: Yeah. so what that open is. Yeah, what that open

688
00:41:51,921 --> 00:41:54,921
is seen. So did you, how did you read that scene?

689
00:41:54,921 --> 00:41:58,111
Did you, did you take it as Egg training thunder?

690
00:41:58,111 --> 00:42:00,151
Or did you take it as he was just trying to sneak

691
00:42:00,151 --> 00:42:03,021
out of camp to, pretend to be a knight?

692
00:42:05,441 --> 00:42:07,601
>> Sarah : people actually subscribe to be.

693
00:42:10,161 --> 00:42:11,041
>> Will: Some people do.

694
00:42:11,841 --> 00:42:12,521
>> Sarah : Interesting.

695
00:42:12,521 --> 00:42:12,671
>> Will: I, don't.

696
00:42:12,831 --> 00:42:16,591
>> Sarah : That didn't make any sense to me. I read it. Hey,

697
00:42:16,591 --> 00:42:19,231
like, he was clearly trading. He.

698
00:42:19,471 --> 00:42:19,951
>> Will: Yeah.

699
00:42:20,601 --> 00:42:24,441
>> Sarah : If you subscribe to be, then please explain how

700
00:42:24,681 --> 00:42:29,961
Egg's decision at the end, because Egg could have

701
00:42:29,961 --> 00:42:32,771
let, if, if that was true, if that was

702
00:42:32,771 --> 00:42:36,531
hypothetically, if that was true, that that

703
00:42:36,531 --> 00:42:40,611
opening sequence was clearly Egg going off to play

704
00:42:40,611 --> 00:42:44,851
pretend night. Okay, then, then why at the end of

705
00:42:44,851 --> 00:42:51,541
the episode does he, he, come clean about who he

706
00:42:51,541 --> 00:42:56,741
is and he, it sacrifices his freedom that he

707
00:42:57,381 --> 00:43:02,181
desires for, to save the life of Duncan, like,

708
00:43:03,941 --> 00:43:07,341
would not motivationally. That doesn't work for

709
00:43:07,341 --> 00:43:12,101
the character. I, I, I can, I can see it is a kid,

710
00:43:12,101 --> 00:43:15,511
so he likes to play, but he, he was training. I

711
00:43:15,511 --> 00:43:18,151
mean, you get the whole speech about how his

712
00:43:18,151 --> 00:43:21,551
father, what his father thinks about horses, and

713
00:43:21,791 --> 00:43:25,231
there was some motivational talks, talking,

714
00:43:25,361 --> 00:43:29,281
occurring between Egg and the horse. So I, yeah,

715
00:43:29,281 --> 00:43:32,601
I, I didn't, I didn't really think that there was

716
00:43:32,601 --> 00:43:34,241
another way to interpret that.

717
00:43:35,041 --> 00:43:38,201
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I did see some, I did see

718
00:43:38,201 --> 00:43:40,311
some chatter out there, where some people did

719
00:43:40,311 --> 00:43:42,871
think that. So I was just, I wanted to get your,

720
00:43:42,871 --> 00:43:45,861
get your sense of, of that. But yeah, yeah, to me

721
00:43:45,861 --> 00:43:49,661
it was very clear too that it was Egg was, was

722
00:43:49,661 --> 00:43:51,901
doing the, was doing the training sequence.

723
00:43:51,901 --> 00:43:55,321
>> Sarah : So, now on one hand, if they interpreted it that

724
00:43:55,321 --> 00:43:58,561
way, they could have been very surprised when Egg

725
00:43:58,561 --> 00:44:01,841
revealed himself as a Targaryen at the end. So it

726
00:44:01,841 --> 00:44:03,481
could have worked in their favor for that

727
00:44:03,481 --> 00:44:08,021
interpretation. But yeah, indeed, in hindsight,

728
00:44:08,181 --> 00:44:11,181
the interpretation doesn't add up. Granted, I've

729
00:44:11,181 --> 00:44:15,301
had some weird interpretations. So we'll, we'll,

730
00:44:15,301 --> 00:44:20,931
we, we will, we will see any, any other scenes

731
00:44:20,931 --> 00:44:24,211
that have had some interesting interpretations or

732
00:44:24,211 --> 00:44:27,651
some chatter that. Okay, okay, okay.

733
00:44:27,651 --> 00:44:29,811
>> Will: No, no, I mean, like I said, that was, that was,

734
00:44:29,811 --> 00:44:31,931
that was the one. the rest of it though, like I

735
00:44:31,931 --> 00:44:35,651
said, it was, you know, the deviations, overall, I

736
00:44:35,651 --> 00:44:38,301
thought the deviations from the Nolla, worked

737
00:44:38,301 --> 00:44:40,471
except for the fortune teller, but but, but the

738
00:44:40,471 --> 00:44:43,671
others I think all really added, added to the

739
00:44:43,671 --> 00:44:46,431
show, added to the story.

740
00:44:46,591 --> 00:44:51,311
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, I, I, I think the, the only other

741
00:44:51,311 --> 00:44:55,551
thing I want to say about this show and in talking

742
00:44:55,551 --> 00:44:58,711
about it these last few weeks and knowing that

743
00:44:58,711 --> 00:45:01,311
we're gonna get, we only got three more episodes

744
00:45:02,271 --> 00:45:06,641
left and later this year we're gonna, return to

745
00:45:06,641 --> 00:45:09,881
Westeros, albeit in the past Westeros with the

746
00:45:09,881 --> 00:45:15,881
House of Dragon. So season two of House of the

747
00:45:15,881 --> 00:45:18,081
Dragon, we all know, and if you've been a long

748
00:45:18,081 --> 00:45:20,401
term listener, you know, was not my favorite

749
00:45:20,401 --> 00:45:23,801
season and by the end of it, I hated that season.

750
00:45:24,521 --> 00:45:29,741
To this day I have my issues. and it was very much

751
00:45:29,741 --> 00:45:32,301
a surprise of the year. It was not on my bingo

752
00:45:32,301 --> 00:45:34,941
card to despise season two of House of Dragon. But

753
00:45:34,941 --> 00:45:39,621
we also know how much I love, I love season one of

754
00:45:39,621 --> 00:45:41,821
House of Dragon. I think that is an excellent

755
00:45:41,821 --> 00:45:44,861
season of television. Long live Viserys. Okay,

756
00:45:45,341 --> 00:45:50,061
okay. Long live Viserys. So, and then Game of

757
00:45:50,061 --> 00:45:54,501
Thrones, there are seasons that stand out. There

758
00:45:54,501 --> 00:45:56,651
are seasons that are very disappointing. There are

759
00:45:56,651 --> 00:45:58,851
character arcs that are very disappointed. There

760
00:45:58,851 --> 00:46:01,971
are character arcs like you're just like, wow. And

761
00:46:01,971 --> 00:46:07,171
there are episodes and it's, it has its highs and

762
00:46:07,171 --> 00:46:12,391
its lows. and now we're, we're at the third show

763
00:46:12,471 --> 00:46:16,151
in this universe and, and I say it, love it or

764
00:46:16,151 --> 00:46:20,711
hate it, the, the, the conversation is still

765
00:46:20,711 --> 00:46:24,451
occurring. I don't get a sense of burnout. It

766
00:46:25,091 --> 00:46:29,371
arguably so far, and maybe this is premature, I

767
00:46:29,371 --> 00:46:35,371
don't know, but I feel as though out of a lot of

768
00:46:35,371 --> 00:46:40,131
the franchises talking, your Star wars, your

769
00:46:40,131 --> 00:46:46,851
Marvel, your dcu, this world of Westeros, they

770
00:46:46,931 --> 00:46:52,241
continue to mine it in some of the best ways and,

771
00:46:52,881 --> 00:46:59,041
and, and also present us with originality yet

772
00:46:59,121 --> 00:47:03,481
still tied to this world that we know. So it's

773
00:47:03,481 --> 00:47:08,171
still familiar and it's it's really interesting

774
00:47:08,171 --> 00:47:13,901
and it, and it is granted, like again, there has

775
00:47:13,901 --> 00:47:17,101
been some low lows in this universe and yet we

776
00:47:17,181 --> 00:47:21,421
keep coming back in our surprise when it's like,

777
00:47:21,501 --> 00:47:25,181
okay, I still like being here. I like this new

778
00:47:25,181 --> 00:47:28,501
story because it seems to be connected, but not

779
00:47:28,501 --> 00:47:31,951
fully connected, to these other stories that I've

780
00:47:31,951 --> 00:47:37,151
heard before. Yeah. So I just, I. I wanted to put

781
00:47:37,151 --> 00:47:40,661
that out there because I. In this time of,

782
00:47:40,881 --> 00:47:47,331
franchises and, going back to the same. Well, I

783
00:47:47,331 --> 00:47:52,730
find that so far, Game of Thrones is doing it the

784
00:47:52,730 --> 00:47:56,041
best. and that may be premature, but that's just

785
00:47:56,041 --> 00:47:59,281
how I feel right now, being halfway through this

786
00:47:59,521 --> 00:48:02,441
third spin off of this, world.

787
00:48:03,641 --> 00:48:07,431
>> Will: Yeah, yeah, I hear you. Don't. I can't really. you

788
00:48:07,431 --> 00:48:10,031
know, I'm still working my way through the, you

789
00:48:10,031 --> 00:48:13,751
know, Game of Thrones, but, but, but I would agree

790
00:48:14,471 --> 00:48:18,521
with you, at least with House of the Dragon. M.

791
00:48:18,551 --> 00:48:20,951
yeah, they have definitely mind this universe very

792
00:48:20,951 --> 00:48:23,981
well and, bring a, bring a fresh perspectives for,

793
00:48:25,221 --> 00:48:26,581
for the franchise. So.

794
00:48:27,621 --> 00:48:31,341
>> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. And. And I know everyone talks about

795
00:48:31,341 --> 00:48:34,301
the Red Wedding from Game of Thrones, but the more

796
00:48:34,301 --> 00:48:37,781
I think about that show, there are other episodes

797
00:48:37,781 --> 00:48:41,181
that are underrated. So if you, like, Will have

798
00:48:41,181 --> 00:48:44,781
never seen it and think, like, some things aren't

799
00:48:44,781 --> 00:48:47,621
going to catch you off guard. No, no, no. There's

800
00:48:47,621 --> 00:48:51,061
some episodes people don't talk about. There's

801
00:48:51,061 --> 00:48:55,981
some stuff that happens. So, so anyway, we will be

802
00:48:55,981 --> 00:48:59,741
back in Westeros next week along with, we will

803
00:48:59,821 --> 00:49:04,161
start, a return to Marvel with Wonder man, at

804
00:49:04,161 --> 00:49:06,881
least the first half of that season that dropped

805
00:49:06,881 --> 00:49:09,601
recently. So on that note, Will, why don't you

806
00:49:09,601 --> 00:49:11,401
tell our listeners where they can find you?

807
00:49:12,201 --> 00:49:15,841
>> Will: Yes, you can find me on all the socials at will.

808
00:49:15,841 --> 00:49:18,601
And Polk. W I L, L, M M P O O K.

809
00:49:20,771 --> 00:49:22,091
>> Sarah : And I forgot to mention y'.

810
00:49:22,091 --> 00:49:22,291
>> Will: All.

811
00:49:22,691 --> 00:49:25,081
>> Sarah : and I'll talk more about this next time or at the

812
00:49:25,081 --> 00:49:27,361
end of February, because that's when the last four

813
00:49:27,361 --> 00:49:29,281
episodes come out. I did watch the first four

814
00:49:29,281 --> 00:49:32,321
episodes of season four of, Bridgerton. Okay, love

815
00:49:32,321 --> 00:49:36,961
it. And I want to say Netflix for only releasing,

816
00:49:37,121 --> 00:49:41,601
doing the stupid episode drop schedule. I. No, no,

817
00:49:42,001 --> 00:49:47,811
no. Okay, I needed, I needed the. I. I could have

818
00:49:47,811 --> 00:49:50,371
binged the full season in one sitting, y'. All.

819
00:49:50,521 --> 00:49:54,391
but anyway, more on that later. you can find me on

820
00:49:54,391 --> 00:49:57,671
X, formerly known as Twitter, @SJ Momont, and you

821
00:49:57,671 --> 00:50:00,791
can follow our crew there too, at Scene N. Nerd on

822
00:50:00,791 --> 00:50:03,431
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823
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824
00:50:05,671 --> 00:50:07,231
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825
00:50:07,231 --> 00:50:11,131
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826
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827
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828
00:50:15,251 --> 00:50:46,881
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