Supacell Episodes 5 & 6: Epic Moments & Surprising Twists!

0:11 >> Sarah : Greetings, nerds this is Scene N Nerd. I'm your host, Sarah Belmont, and with me, as always, is our mister producer, Will Polk. How are you doing tonight, will? >> Will: Doing much better. How are you doing this evening? >> Sarah : I'm doing good. You certainly have had a week. >> Will: Yeah, yeah. When we came back from our summer hiatus, Sarah shared her Covid story, and then I, got. Had my. My Covid experience, this past week, so that's why we're recording it a little later this week. But, yeah, and the funny thing about it, I was going to go get my shot, and I test positive the day before. >> Sarah : The irony. The irony of it all. >> Will: Yeah.

0:51 >> Sarah : Yeah. Well, I'm glad you were feeling better. >> Will: Yep. >> Sarah : I did. We. I did see everything that went on this weekend about the Emmys. >> Will: Yep. >> Sarah : and congrats to all of the winners, specifically. Shogun just took home everything. >> Will: Yeah. It was like 18 awards total. Yeah, yeah. It was like history setting. >> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. Record setting sweep. And then the Bears season two specifically picked up a lot of awards as well, which was not surprised by. >> Will: Yeah, I think they broke their own record. Yeah. >> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. I was not surprised by that. It will be interesting to see, what happens next year with, the season three.

1:39 I don't. I don't expect, but I also, you know, sometimes the award shows, they have different. They perceive things differently, and, like, I'm sorry, there's not a lot of competition going on either. >> Will: Yeah. Yeah, I guess I haven't watched hacks. I guess hacks actually ended up winning best comedy instead of the bear, but, But, yeah, I guess maybe that'll be the show that will, become the darling, for the, 2025 Emmys, which will be, I guess, shows that aired between June 1 of 2024 and, I guess may m 31st of 2025.

2:25 >> Sarah : Okay. Okay. >> Will: Yeah. >> Sarah : I did watch, the perfect couple. Have you heard about this show? >> Will: I have not. >> Sarah : It was for about a week because I think it's only been on Netflix for about two weeks now, maybe three. >> Will: Okay. Okay. >> Sarah : But I kept hearing that people say things, and then I found out it was six episodes, and I'm like, okay, I do say, I don't understand. I there. I don't know if it's me or if people just hype me up, but I'm just. I'm watching this, and it's fine. I mean, Cole Kidman doesn't sign on a project for nothing, so. She was there.

3:07 Yeah. Yeah, it's that one. >> Will: Okay. >> Sarah : Dakota, fanning too in there as well. Shiver, love shiver. >> Will: Yeah. >> Sarah : and there. It's. It's fun, it's fine. It's a murder mystery. Like, who killed this person night before a wedding? And then money and bribery, all of that's involved. it just. It just. I don't understand why people were, like, so addicted to this. I don't get it. To me, it's just an average, average murder mystery show.

3:52 Like, you've Scene it 20 times before. They didn't really do anything that spectacular. The characters are honestly not that interesting. and there's not a lot of depth to them. Ah. So I just, But I finished it and. Yeah, I just. And I mean, I don't know what it is, but I feel like people just. I get it in my head that this is supposed be the next best thing and. And it never is.

4:32 And it'll be interesting because this week, we got to talk about next week. Agatha long and the penguin. So I'm like, oh, God, I don't know what's going on. >> Will: Yeah, yeah. I've Scene some commentary on Agatha. I think. I think people are. I've Scene some mixed. Mixed. Mostly positive, but I have some. I've Scene some. Some lukewarm response as well. >> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, I try. I'm trying not to pay attention to any of it, honestly, about either of the show. I saw a thumbnail about the penguin where. Which made me raise an eyebrow.

5:14 So I'm not. I'm not sure. And the same with the joker, Joker two coming up in a few weeks as well. Like, there's a lot of mixed things happening. I'm like, I don't need this. >> Will: Yeah, yeah, well, just. Yeah, same, same. yeah, I'm like, I'm kind of, you know, I knew whenever I was sick, I think I texted you, I was just like, And maybe I was like, I don't know if it's the illness beginner, if it's just me, or if it's just where I am with. With things in the genre right now. But I was like, are you excited about Agatha or the penguin? because I think I said I was more excited for penguin than Agatha, but. >> Sarah : Yeah, but you've been saying that since. I don't know.

5:54 >> Will: Yeah, yeah. So I guess. Okay, good. So it wasn't a Covid induced, >> Sarah : No, no. Yeah. >> Will: You know, your brain. Covid brain will make you do funny things. So, >> Sarah : Well, the way you said it, like, it was the first time you had ever expressed that opinion. >> Will: Yeah, yeah. >> Sarah : Like, I said, I forgot you. Information for any. >> Will: Like, I said, I. For. Yeah, like I said, Covid brain, you know, you forget stuff I couldn't remember. M so, Yeah, but, But I will. But if you're listening to us, we're, recording on a Thursday. So the Penguin premieres actually tonight. And, And then. And I think they'll rear. It'll re air again on Sunday. But then, moving forward, after the premiere this week, it will air every Sunday night, at, I think, the 09:00 timeframe. So.

6:46 >> Sarah : So the premiere episode drops tonight, only to be rear re aired on Sunday, only then to that become its regular schedule for the rest of the season. >> Will: Yep. Yep. Correct. >> Sarah : Okay. Yeah, I don't like, Oh, that just reminds me about a grievance. I have definitely aired on this podcast in the previous months. Netflix, is whole. Let's drop half the season, have people wait two months only or a month only to drop the next half. Okay. Emily in Paris. The second half of the season dropped far superior than the first staff. even though. Even though I'm going to tell you people who have been watching Emily in Paris, I don't know what the actor who plays Gabrielle did, but he must have pissed off a writer, because I have never not liked that character so much as in this season.

7:53 And I am going to be so upset when Emily and Gabrielle end up together. I'm going to be Madden, because it's just so classic. Like, they finally get together only to be ripped apart. But it's also not like, the understanding they. They totally made him into a jackass. I'm like, man. And there's this other guy, and I'm like, oh, he's definitely a lot cooler. So I just. I mean, I don't. Emily in Paris should not have been split up in two parts. Granted, I don't know if I would have been as high on the second half had I had to also, like, concurrently, suffer through or not concurrently, but have watched the whole thing. But I'm not sure. I mean, maybe.

8:51 >> Will: Maybe it will work. you know, maybe, you know something? As we mentioned this before, sometimes it actually works in the show's favor. Just break them up. Whereas others. It, would just been better just to just drop them all at once. >> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. I. Emily in Paris, I will die on this hill and say it's a binge. It's, like, straight through. No need. Does not. It's not complicated what's going on in that show. It's not intense. Okay. Okay. Supacell Supacell is a little bit more intense. >> Will: Yeah. >> Sarah : I don't. I don't know why we only get six episodes. And I definitely think I would have enjoyed this season as a whole if we had not watched it like two episodes at a time. I don't. I didn't need the break, to break it up to, because it's. It's more intense. It's not that complicated of what's going on. but I also just think that. And I understand why.

9:54 Money, I mean, it's a new ip, all of that stuff, so. But it was just a really, really short season only for it to like, just get started right when it ends. >> Will: Yeah. >> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. >> Will: For sure. For sure. Yeah. The ending. >> Will: So I. You know, I actually. I'm actually glad we broke it up, because I don't. What he said. I mean, yes, as far as the premise, it is pretty straightforward, as far with the genre storyline and everything. But for me, I like the fact that we broke it up because it gave me a chance to really breathe and really get. To get to know these characters because, you know, each episode was.

10:43 Except for the final episode, you know, it was named after one of the principal five people who make up the. Make up the team. And I think what for me, what I really liked about this, about this season was getting to know these characters. Getting to know. Yes. They, you know, obviously learn it going along with them on the journey as far as exploring their powers, but. But also getting. But for me, what really helped me, like, enjoy this series so much was just getting to know these characters as people. And so whenever we do get the finale of, the season, you know, I'm invested in them so that whenever the events all play out as they. As they do, I'm invested in what happens to them.

11:37 So to me, that was what I, really liked about this season and breaking it up and going it two at a time. >> Sarah : Right, right. so that brings us to episode five, Rodney. When spud ends up in the hospital, Rodney has a change of heart. Michael decides to tell Deon everything, but first he has to find the others. >> Will: Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, we pick up, right, right there at the crazy's drug, lab, and all may have ensues after taser shoots the gun. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because all our. All our heroes are all there together except for Michael because, you know, at the end of. Yeah, because he's, you know, he got pulled away because his mom's and had had an attack. So. Sickle cell attack. So, so. But we know we get the whole. The whole. The whole thing sort of breaks down. and then, you know, Andre steals the safe.

12:40 Yep. Andre steals the safe. Everybody, you know, gets the sisters managed to get out. And, And then Rodney goes, you know, goes to go to the hospital, visits bud. >> Sarah : Yep. And then only to leave and then to go visit his mom. So we find out a little insight into his home life, which. Or lack thereof, home life, considering his stepdad, appears to be a racist. yeah. >> Will: Yeah. I mean, that's where. And that really gets to my point about, like, getting to know these characters, because we. We saw, you know, he was a light skinned brother, and we already figured, you know, more likely than not, he was biracial. But, you know, we do get confirmation of that. And then it's the whole dynamic with his mother. And, you know, she.

13:25 You know, he. He really is trying to reach out to her. And we learned that he left home 16 to go live in hostel because of his stepfather and stuff. And. And, you know, I wish we had learned. They did. I don't think they. Did they mention anything about his sexual father or if they were to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. which, I mean, clearly, you know, that's where obviously, the sickle. Where he got the sickle cell gene, you know, from his father. M but, yeah, it was just, you know, really, you know, Roddy was just at his wits end because his best friend is, like, laid up, and, you know, she was, you know, he was trying to get a, you know, little lifeline, and she just. Just wouldn't do it.

14:07 >> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. and then he tries to get a lifeline from Michael, and Michael has other priorities. So I want to jump and, talk about something that caught me off guard and I found very unsettling. And reflecting on it now, because I remember how I felt in the moment watching it. it's just. It's. It's the scene where Taser, and crew confront a girl who we met in the first episode. >> Will: Yeah. >> Sarah : And they. They pieced together that she set them up for that. That brawl that they had with the sixers, and. And everyone's just talking, and then out of nowhere, Taser just. Just beats the living shit out of her.

14:58 >> Will: I. Yeah. >> Sarah : so there's a few things that's going on in my mind, because I do. Over the years, especially as we watched this genre, there has been male and female superheroes, and it's always like, oh, the girls can only fight the girls, and then the boys can only fight the boys. in this scene, though, the girl didn't even have powers. And so I don't know if that's why it even was more unsettling. But there's just something about that nature. And then there's another scene, between crazy and Charlene m. It doesn't go that far, but it's like, it's also a bit like, okay, I don't. We don't need to linger here. Don't need to linger. but this one in particular, because I did feel like it went on a long time.

15:59 I just. I guess I have more questions than I do even reaction to it. I just. I want to understand why the writers chose to do that. especially because for me, as a viewer, I find it hard to forget a scene like that, especially involving a character who I know ultimately should be a hero. >> Will: Yeah. >> Sarah : Like, okay, you got some redemption to do because that was messed up. >> Will: Yeah. Yeah, that. Yeah, that one was hard. That was a hard scene for me to watch, too.

16:42 and because, I mean, Taser has always been pretty almost irredeemable. And to. To go and, and just assault a woman like that, I mean, it was just a straight up assault. yeah. And it was, you know, ah, I I know he's hurting. I know he is, dealing with a lot with pre, you know, with his grandmother being assaulted by crazy and stuff. So I, you know, I don't know if he was trying. If he, you know, because she's like part of the crazy's gang, she's weaker. I mean, there was just a lot of subtext in that and really get into some issues of domestic violence, quite frankly, that, You know, maybe the imbalance. Imbalance of power of, >> Sarah : Well, maybe, but I mean. I mean, is it domestic violence because they aren't together?

17:45 >> Will: Well, no, but I mean, if. I guess more just the. No, not in a sense of a romantic relationship. But I do think, I mean, it was a power imbalance there. >> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. >> Will: you know, not only man and woman, but also suit versus just a normal person. >> Sarah : Right. >> Will: and so I don't know if the. Right. I don't know if rap man was trying to make a commentary about, like, there's multiple injustices going on here. I don't know. I just. I was kind of. I was trying to figure out what was with that and also with what was going on with Charlene and crazy. >> Sarah : Yeah. Charlene and crazy. I actually. Even though I didn't. I didn't want to watch it, and I felt like it went on a bit too long. I also understood why they were doing that because that was already suggested before. I mean, to go back to your point, I never found Taser to be irredeemable, mainly because of his love for his grandma.

18:46 But. But there was. He never did anything that I felt like, oh, this is a really bad guy. And then I watched that scene. I'm like, wait a second. What's. What? Huh? I don't. It just is very confusing to me. and. And I just. I felt like there should have been more context, like. Like, to. Part of the reason why it's unsettling is also just. It totally goes out. Comes out of nowhere. Like, there was no. Nothing that led you to believe that that was going to happen. I mean, arguably, the. You could go back to the first episode and how he, He pulls out the gun and shoots. And shoots Michael.

19:35 Right, right. But. But I. And so maybe. But then again, you also know that Michael has powers or will have powers like, you're. And maybe that's why it's still so. So, I don't know. I mean, you could be right about the power imbalance or reasoning, but that, like, my takeaway from this show almost is I would just want to understand more about what led to that decision. And in a weird way, it does make me curious to see how they fix that in the next season or how they make amends between the viewer and that, or, honestly, I say this all the time. Will they even acknowledge that that happened? Because writers are known to do something and it not go well with the viewers, and suddenly, like, we're never going to talk about it again.

20:33 >> Will: I don't. You know, well, given. Given Crazy's Boyden, I mean, they were all like, dude, I mean, they. You know, I don't think they'll drop it. >> Sarah : You mean Taser? >> Will: Tasers? >> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, whenever. >> Will: Whenever. Yeah, whenever. Taser's boys were like, you never. Whenever he. Whenever they. Cause. Even to you being caught off guard. They were caught off guard. >> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, no, that was. That was very clear. They. They. And then they continued that while questioning, what? What. Why are we here staking out this old woman's house? Like, what are we gonna do here? So many questions. And I think, overall, Taser is not cut out for this position of power, in the gang life. He's made that abundantly clear over the past few episodes, with some of his decision making.

21:28 but yeah, I think unfortunately for this episode, it's Rodney's episode. But that scene caught me so off guard that I was definitely paying more attention to what was going on with Taser and, Charlene than I was with Rodney. >> Will: Yeah. And also, yeah, and to, also to pick up with Charlene and with Sabrina. The juxtaposition of their situations in this episode because Sabrina finally, she's all, she's been doing her best to like work hard, do the right thing. And then of course, you know, because of her learning her, you know, her powers and, you know, causing her to be distracted and of course, you know, her. And also her domestic is her boyfriend cheating on her and her stuff. And then, you know, whenever she did, you know, she had that performance review, she was thinking she was getting there to get fired. And then actually, no, they were actually going to promote her to head nurse.

22:23 >> Sarah : Because that, yeah, I was, I was glad that they inserted that scene and that it was all in her head about that. Yeah. And that she, she does, she, she needed to say something sooner about like, I can't, I can't work today. >> Will: Yeah. Yeah. >> Sarah : I have my own disease. I need to figure out for the day. I need to take a sick day or something. And and then meanwhile, Michael, he. Classic drama and tension happening where he's gonna tell Dion. Dion is chasing down, more threads, especially involved with jasmine. and jasmine's parents are giving her some breadcrumbs to follow about what's really going on. and this all leads to Michael Trine almost being able to tell her the truth only for Rodney to interrupt and, and they gotta go. So very, very classic. classic.

23:28 >> Will: Yeah. >> Sarah : Dramatic irony and tension building there. >> Will: Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. But, you know, I liked, you know, but again, pulling all the threads together with Theon, you know, finding out more about what, what truly happened with Jasmine and, you know, and her father. Was it this episode or just the final episode where he called her? >> Sarah : I don't, I don't remember which one was. It was. And I want to say it's the second episode. But, but it could easily have been the first episode. I mean, these, these run, all the episodes run together at a smooth pace. And that's why I argue that they could be easily binged together.

24:12 >> Will: Yeah, yeah, no, it was the second episode, I think, where. Because that's where they get, they learn about the tower, a town. But I think in this one I think they did. I think they just wanted Michael to go in there and take, you know, use his powers to, teleport her out, I think, is what. What they were. What the ask was whenever, Theon was. Was talking with him there, but, I don't remember. Yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah, that was. That was the. Whenever. That was the one pulling the threads together. and I think in episode five. And then episode six is where they, She learns about the, nose in this one. It wasn't this one. Cause. That's right. They, Yeah.

24:54 I'm sorry. Well, again, they run together. I mean, they do run together. That's the. That's the benefit. And then at the detriment of, like, you know, whenever you binge it and all six at once or back to back. >> Sarah : Yeah, episode six. >> Will: well, no, we haven't even talked about Andre and what happens with him before. We, you know, we got to set that up to make. What happened. What happens to him in episode six. I mean, basically, just the fact that. I mean, I guess the quick thing is he got the safe, learn said it's empty, and, I guess he gets beat up. You know, I guess he wants to find out, wants to meet up with Michael and the rest of them, but on the way, the agent, like, runs into him, and, he gets beat up and taken away in the portal.

25:43 >> Sarah : Yeah, that's right. That's right. And they. In this episode, we get the seed planted that the more they use their powers, the more energy gets depleted. because Andre, for most of this episode, is just taking a nap. Yeah, taking a nap, which, of course, leads to his son. M leads to his son further joining the gang crew, as well, much to his demise. So. So, yeah, yeah, we get. We get that scene. But you're right. We. We see Andre get taken and, Taser almost get taken, except Jasmine, Michael and Rodney stop them. All right. episode six, Supacell. Taser and Sabrina both search for crazy. Dion follows up on information about the missing girl. With powers pushed beyond their limit, the five must unite to save the ones they love.

26:39 yeah, so. So a lot of this episode is spent in Jasmine's house. Not Jasmine's house. >> Will: Sabrina's house. >> Sarah : Sabrina's house, yeah. >> Will: Which, >> Sarah : And. And we just got Michael teleporting all over the place. Just teleported. I do think that this was probably the best episode of the. Of the show. I think it got stronger as it went on. >> Will: It did. >> Sarah : and this is what we really wanted to see, the whole time, we really wanted to see the five together. we wanted to understand more about their nemesis and what was happening.

27:19 a lot of the things we already was very clear. I always love that. Like, it's pretty obvious everyone has a parent who has sickle cell. >> Will: Yep. >> Sarah : But no, no, no. We still have to allow the bad guy to explain this to us. which we do learn more about them. We get. We get ray, and at the end, we get Victoria, who we have met before. but she's the real person behind the foundation. >> Will: Mm >> Sarah : and, yeah, I. Unless there's anything, I just really just want to jump down to the big fight, because, I mean, it's actually. No, there is one scene that I do have some. Some things I want to say about. But.

28:11 What were you gonna say? >> Will: No, I don't know if. Yeah, I didn't know if the one thing that. Before we get to the big fight, I mean, a couple. You know, just, we learned about what Jasmine's whole role in this whole operation's been. I guess she's, you know, she's the healer. I mean, she. That's her, you know, her super. Her ability has been to, you know, whenever, we. We get these. Whenever the supe agents or whoever get beat up, she's there to, like, you know, heal them. Heal them. And, And, of course, we do get, you know, we do get the whole, like, Andre getting recruited into the organization to. Because, again, they use his financial status and the fact that he wants, you know, to make. Have a great relationship with his son to, you know, you. You know, they've been keeping all these folks under surveillance.

29:01 And that's the other thing. You know, we get more details, like you said about the surveilling and, how the powers actually get activated. You know, they may, like, either they may be active or they may be dormant, but they get me, you know, by coming into interaction with another person who does have a Supacell gene, you know, activates it. So, yeah, so we get, you know, so we definitely get a lot more context and exposition about, about the powers and also about the organization as well. >> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. I wanted to talk about the scene between Dionne and Michael where she finally learns the truth. this is some of the best acting I've Scene in the show, arguably the best acted scene in the show, specifically from Dion. And it's not just the actress. it's also just the writing.

29:54 I I said this when she first learned about the powers, like, now learning about the death. You see her process it in a very. What feels to be a very, authentic way. >> Will: Yeah. >> Sarah : and between the writing and the acting, I just thought that that was really standout. I mean, overall, a strong point is Dionne as a character, because they were able to make her not whiny, and not, like, just enough of a damsel in distress without being cringy about it. Yeah.

30:36 Granted, the longer the episode went on, it became more cringey. >> Will: But, yeah, it did fall into some tricks. She became double benefit all, but, yeah, yeah, I completely agree with you on that scene. I'm glad. That was gonna be my other. That was a highlight for me from the season as well. and I did, as I was watching that scene, I did think of you, with the reaction in our conversation about it earlier, because it did feel very authentic about what if someone told you that I've Scene the day that you're gonna die, you know, how would you react? and I thought that was very. Ah, yeah.

31:18 As you eloquently put it, it was very well done. >> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. And now that the strings are all coming together on this, all this big thing, we all end up in a town one way or another. as Sabrina continues to find out what happened to Charlene, and Taser wants his vengeance. I don't really know what Rodney wants. >> Will: Rodney wants. >> Sarah : We're here. I'm doing this. And hopefully Michael will pay me back. >> Will: Yeah, he just wants Michael to, like, set, you know, go back, set the time right. Just go back in time. The time to that, spud doesn't get hurt, but, you know, we all learn about these butterflies.

32:05 >> Sarah : So at what point will m. Were you, like, where. At what point watching this, these two episodes, were you thinking to yourself, crazy must have powers? >> Will: you know, it actually, whenever it was revealed, it made sense, but I never. It didn't really cross my mind, to be honest. >> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, I'll be honest. I didn't expect him to have powers, but I was starting based on some of the scenes, especially the awkwardness after the Charlene scene. Like, I started to be like, okay, crazy must have some sort of tie, especially when it's pieced together.

32:56 Like, the more the location became obvious in what we've Scene, it's like, okay, so does anybody else find it weird that crazy's, like, whole operations are, right next door. >> Will: Yeah. Yeah. So that's where I thought they were going to go. I thought that they would just, like, reveal, like, you know, which we do, you know, just that the fat. He was a part of the organization, that they were like a front to, like, you know, again, to this bigger, grander, you know, world of. And, you know, not only in a systemic. True, you know, in the real world, systemic issues with racism and whatnot, but also in this. This south London world that they've established, too, where there's these issues, that's where I thought they were going to go.

33:43 >> Will: But him also being a. I guess. What's the. It's like, was it morph in, x Men? >> Sarah : No, no, he's rogue. >> Will: Yeah, he's rogue. Yeah. Rogue. Excuse me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It takes on the other person's powers. >> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah. Temporarily, though, right? >> Will: Yeah, right. >> Sarah : And he only hold one power at a time. I felt like during. >> Will: That's what it seemed like. >> Sarah : Yeah, yeah, yeah. They did. The. The action in this final episode, was good, good staging, good direction of choreography. >> Will: Yeah. >> Sarah : you don't. You don't feel too disoriented, with where people are coming from and everything.

34:27 and you just feel disoriented on whether or not Dion's in the car or out of the car. Where is deon? Yeah, but. But that's because a lot of this is kind of shown through Michael's, perspective. and I don't know why this came to my mind during a certain sequence in this fight scene. I mean, I do know why, but I find it funny because I swear to you, I swear I read the book, but I have only Scene the movie one time. but I'm just gonna call it, like, twilight eclipse or new moon. I think it's new moon part two. They do something very similar where we get. We get the sequence where you think it all is lost and everyone's dead.

35:19 and Michael just rewinds time and makes it right. only for it not to go his way. and so. So it's interesting because we've been told Dion has three months to live and three months has not passed. Is she dead? So I guess to question it, if you're a writer. >> Will: Yeah. >> Sarah : Do you try to undo that?

35:59 >> Will: I don't think you can. I mean, I think the rules that they've established in this show makes it. I mean, it's done. >> Sarah : Yeah, but. But see, it's. It's weird because. So. So the rule is he can't bring anyone back to life. Right, right. But he did because he ran around time, I think I. >> Will: So cuz he, so cuz whenever, because the first. Whatever, cuz crazy. So Rodney, like, took the, got the stuff, the device out of crazy's back. Crazy switches around, slits his throat, and it slits everyone else's throat.

36:42 >> Sarah : Yep. Yep. Because this is super speed. >> Will: Yeah. but before, so, but before Michael passed away, he did, he reversed it, so. Yeah, but then they contradicted the next scene because then that's. Yeah, because, yeah, Deon dies. Yeah. What's with the paradox? Yeah, I know. They created a paradox. >> Sarah : Yeah, yeah. I mean, I can only think like, Dion is the, the Ben of the show. >> Will: Yeah, yeah. Ah. >> Sarah : Like Peter Parker can't ever undo that. >> Will: Yeah. Yeah. That's what I said. That's why I joked earlier the uncle Bennett of it all, because I guess, you know, maybe that's, that's where I did. I was like, I was hoping he would, that rat man wouldn't use the Nexus event trope, but, but it looks like they did.

37:34 >> Sarah : Well, I'm not bad at it either, because I don't, I think it's an, I don't, I wasn't looking forward to season two still being about how does Michael prevent Dionne from dying. Like, yeah, it needed to end. It was surprising, and I wasn't expecting it to end like that, but I, I just wonder if season two will now be finding more information about Supacell to take them down while also trying to figure out a way to use my powers to unwrite history. Like, yeah, like, because, and then we've talked about this before about how from the get go, once you realize what Michael's powers are, the tropes are all over the place.

38:30 This isn't our first back to the future movie. >> Will: Yeah, yeah. And even, even joke about the butterfly effect in this show, so. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but I wonder too, if, because, I mean, Michael finally confronting his fear and telling her what, the future. >> Sarah : Mm. >> Will: You know, maybe that was the, you know, maybe that was the, the thing that the small, you know. Well, not a small thing, but maybe that was, that was the, that was the, he, maybe it wasn't meant for him to tell her what was, what was going on. So by him sharing that, it accelerated a timeline. but to your point, you know, as far as moving ahead, as far as what the future seasons will hold, I mean, if, you know. Cause another thing that they mentioned in the show, too, is, you know, he does have, his powers, do have limits. Like, for example, he was only able to do that jump into the future once, he couldn't do it again.

39:28 >> Sarah : Right. >> Will: So maybe. Maybe he used that one, that one thing, bringing everybody else back that one time, you know, he can't do it for her again. >> Sarah : Right, right. I almost feel like they were right when they were first talking about the butterfly effect and that it's already happened, because I didn't get this sense from future Michael that, I didn't get the sense that, in his timeline, he went to the future. >> Will: Right.

40:08 >> Sarah : Like, I didn't get that sense. Like, oh, I've been expecting you. >> Will: That's a good point. That's a very good point. >> Sarah : I feel like it's almost as though. And then him telling Michael, you need these five people. And that's what led to maybe an acceleration where in the original timeline, there was an extra three months before these people were brought together, however, they were. And then. But now between Michael knowing he has a timeline and inadvertently accelerates it, like, I think, in a way, what. What both Michaels have yet to realize is that it doesn't matter if you find them sooner or later.

40:56 Like, she's still. Like, her destiny is still written. Like, she will still die, because it's gonna. You're, gonna have this. This big event happen, and she's gonna be a casualty. so, so definitely, I can understand, and I was kind of expecting this, why, after only six episodes, and to finally have things, like, really kick in in this final episode, why people were talking about it. because it does pique your interest in, like, okay, I want to see where this goes, what decisions the writers make and where they take these characters, for. For a few different reasons. And we've talked about them already.

41:47 >> Will: Yeah. >> Sarah : so. But. But it's also. It's also treading lightly just because we're in trope area. >> Will: Yeah, it is. >> Sarah : Tropes ahead. >> Will: Yeah. For sure. For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good. Oh, yeah, I have. I really. Yeah. I think you raised m. You summed up, why I think this series ended, this, season in particular, now that we know that we are confirmed to have a season two, why it ended so well and why I'm glad it did not get canceled, because. Yeah, there is a lot there. as we discussed, that, you know, that definitely makes me want to come back for a second season. >> Sarah : Yeah. Yeah. Curious. Curious is a good thing to have when you're, ending a season of television. and especially when you're guaranteed to get some sort of answer with season two. I don't like it, but I'm like, oh, God. Now that I'm curious about what will happen, I hope they don't cancel it.

42:48 >> Will: Yeah. Yeah. Because I know that's. That's. That's my biggest whole. That's my biggest fear with a Netflix show is just like, I don't want to get too invested because they're gonna, you know, it's a 50 50 chance, but I'm glad that our. I'm glad that the odds were in super sales favor. >> Sarah : Yeah, definitely. All right, well, on, that note, will, why don't you tell our listeners where they can find you? >> Will: Yeah, you can find me on Twitter at, Willmpolk. Willmmpolk. >> Sarah : And you can find me there, too, at sjbelmont. SJ b E l M o N T. Please follow our crew on X, formally known, as Twitterinard, for this on Facebook, follows on Instagram and threads. Friend us and visit our website, www. Dot, ciner nerdpodcast.com. but most importantly, rate, follow, and comment on Apple podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever.

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